#mer-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – 30th November 2017

Meeting started by sledges at 09:00:00 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2017-November/008125.html (sledges, 09:00:16)

  1. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info (sledges, 09:00:36)
    1. tortoisedoc developer (tortoisedoc, 09:01:00)
    2. Kimmo Lindholm, connoisseur (kimmoli, 09:01:40)
    3. Leif-Jöran Olsson, community (ljo_, 09:01:47)
    4. Bhushan Shah, KDE Plasma Mobile maintainer (bshah, 09:02:13)
    5. eekkelund (eekkelund, 09:02:16)
    6. Joona Petrell, sailor @ Jolla (jpetrell, 09:02:25)
    7. objectifnul, community (objectifnul, 09:02:31)
    8. Mister_Magister, community and mad porter (Mister_Magister, 09:02:52)
    9. Raine M�kel�inen, sailor @ Jolla (rainemak, 09:02:58)
    10. Damien Caliste, community (dcaliste, 09:03:29)
    11. Simonas Leleiva, sailor @ Jolla (sledges, 09:03:31)
    12. Andrzej Lochowski, community (atlochowski, 09:04:23)
    13. Miklos Marton, community (martonmiklos, 09:04:31)
    14. Rodolphe Sequeira, community (RodSeq, 09:05:48)
    15. Carmen Fdez., community (cfb014, 09:06:36)

  2. Apps install/usage stats per device in Harbour (NOT Jolla store) (Asked by tortoisedoc - 20 min) (sledges, 09:07:22)
    1. Nokius, community (Nokius, 09:08:24)
    2. As a developer, I'd benefit from an improved view of my userbase, splitted by device type and Application, visible from the developer Harbour summary page. For example, this helps in identifying where to focus testing efforts to, and eventual issues with application on specific devices. (sledges, 09:08:27)
    3. At the moment there is no update on long-term plans on this, but we will put all the Harbour improvements on the priority list when we have time and resources to consentrate on that (sledges, 09:18:06)
    4. in the meantime Ygriega has implemented own solution, community can contact? (sledges, 09:21:04)
    5. As a plus side, we have currently some internal requirements for improving the store statistics, so this will be taken into account when working on those (sledges, 09:21:14)
    6. Ygriega: Some info about my solution [that's been rolled out on the Piepmatz app] is on http://wagnis.ygriega.de/ - Devs/community can contact me at any time if you are interested (sledges, 09:22:53)
    7. http://wagnis.ygriega.de/ (sledges, 09:23:10)

  3. Sailfish Browser content DPI calculating is broken in 2.1.3.7 (Asked by Mister_Magister - 20 min) (sledges, 09:25:05)
    1. Since 2.1.3.7 and changes for better support for FullHD screens, webpages DPI is calculated clearly wrong. On Motorola Moto G2 everything is too small and on Motorola Moto X Play everything is too big. Moto G2 has 5" HD display and X Play has 5.5" FullHD display. https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1855 (sledges, 09:25:28)
    2. https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1855 (sledges, 09:25:34)

  4. MEGA.nz integration into Sailfish OS (Asked by Mister_Magister - 10 min) (sledges, 09:47:11)
    1. Mega.nz is another cloud storage service. They have github with sourcecode for every of their tools. (url: https://github.com/meganz) There is one commandline tool so that can be used for adding mega.nz integration into sfos. Can it be added to "we dont have resources for this for now" list? Can it be done? Eventually i'll do it myself ¯_(ツ)_/¯ (sledges, 09:47:30)
    2. https://github.com/meganz (sledges, 09:47:40)
    3. we want to enable 3rd party accounts, unfortunately there is quite much technical debt and security issues we need to sort out before we can provide 3rd party API (sledges, 09:52:05)
    4. https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/buteo-sync-plugins-social (chriadam_, 09:56:08)
    5. fwiw, you can check the buteo-sync-plugins-social for .. 90% of the dropbox/onedrive code; the other 10% is in closed source repo, unfortunately, related to listing files for backup/restore cases (sledges, 09:56:10)
    6. plus the accounts plugins but they're just QML and can be found on teh device (sledges, 09:56:25)
    7. https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/buteo-sync-plugins-social (sledges, 09:56:31)

  5. Covers are sometimes displayed wrongly (sledges, 09:59:00)
    1. asked by Mister_Magister, 10mins (sledges, 09:59:15)
    2. Sometimes covers are rendered too big for a window (link to screenshot: https://imgur.com/v4F6E99). This bug started from 2.1.3 (sledges, 09:59:20)
    3. https://imgur.com/v4F6E99 (sledges, 09:59:48)
    4. this bug has been reported by Nokius before it happens after phone calls, have to check tjc how the reproducing works (sledges, 10:01:51)

  6. Email app improvements and long standing bugs in email and connection switching (Asked by ApBBB - 15 min) (sledges, 10:11:33)
    1. https://together.jolla.com/question/97109/email-imap-idle-doesnt-work-with-both-connections-active/ & https://together.jolla.com/question/91937/bug-imap-idlepush-of-some-email-service-providers-some-users-does-not-work-with-generic-imap-account/?sort=votes&page=1 are two bugs that affect email. Also we have the case that emails arrive late etc etc. (sledges, 10:11:47)
    2. One of the things that a smartphone must do well is communication and email is one of the main ways people communicate outside proprietary apps. And the situation is no good for some at least. So what are the plans for improving this. (sledges, 10:11:56)
    3. https://together.jolla.com/question/97109/email-imap-idle-doesnt-work-with-both-connections-active/ (sledges, 10:12:03)
    4. https://together.jolla.com/question/91937/bug-imap-idlepush-of-some-email-service-providers-some-users-does-not-work-with-generic-imap-account/?sort=votes&page=1 (sledges, 10:12:12)
    5. sticking to previous topic, how to repro scaled covers: phone on the table, ringing. Pull down to answer, pick the phone put it to ear 45°, speak. Later hang off, let the phone app disappear and show the home screen, then covers are wrongly scaled. (sledges, 10:13:04)
    6. dcaliste has kindly stepped forward to look into the matter, and will keep us updated, with help from Jolla (sledges, 10:24:31)
    7. https://together.jolla.com/question/97109/email-imap-idle-doesnt-work-with-both-connections-active/?answer=175138#post-id-175138 (sledges, 10:24:35)

  7. General discussion - 15mins (sledges, 10:26:01)
  8. Next meeting date (sledges, 10:45:03)
    1. Next meeting Thursday 14th December 2017 09:00 UTC (sledges, 10:46:52)
    2. https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/935473194215071744 (sledges, 10:47:16)


Meeting ended at 10:47:18 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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People present (lines said)

  1. sledges (129)
  2. Mister_Magister (120)
  3. jpetrell (36)
  4. ApBBB (33)
  5. dcaliste (28)
  6. chriadam_ (27)
  7. rainemak (26)
  8. r0kk3rz (20)
  9. martonmiklos (16)
  10. bshah (15)
  11. gabriele (12)
  12. tortoisedoc (11)
  13. Nokius (5)
  14. objectifnul (4)
  15. Ygriega (4)
  16. merbot (3)
  17. pketo (3)
  18. stephg (3)
  19. kimmoli (2)
  20. tbr (2)
  21. cfb014 (1)
  22. corvinux (1)
  23. gabriel_ (1)
  24. ljo_ (1)
  25. hge (1)
  26. eekkelund (1)
  27. atlochowski (1)
  28. RodSeq (1)
  29. ljo (1)


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