#mer-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – 11th July 2019

Meeting started by sledges at 08:00:07 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2019-July/008678.html (sledges, 08:00:18)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info (sledges, 08:00:57)
    1. Simonas Leleiva – privateer for Jolla (sledges, 08:01:36)
    2. Vincent Knecht - community (vknecht, 08:02:34)
    3. Kimmo Lindholm, community (kimmoli, 08:02:35)
    4. Bird Zhang - community (birdzhang[m], 08:02:48)
    5. David Llewellyn-Jones - sailor @ jolla (and with sympathy for poor James) (flypig, 08:03:38)
    6. Ville Nummela - sailor @ Jolla (ViGe, 08:03:43)

  3. Status of allowing more APIs/apps/whatever to the official store (10 min - asked by ApBBB) (sledges, 08:06:24)
    1. The status of the official store is not that good and openrepos seem to do better. (sledges, 08:06:48)
    2. Its been discussed in previous meetings that some things need to be done on Jollas side in order to allow more apps that are available in openrepos to be also in the store. Whats the status of that. (sledges, 08:06:55)
    3. < Jolla> We will be allowing more APIs in the official store in the future. We will do this so that we will maturize the APIs, and once they are mature enough they will be allowed. With the release of 3.1.0 we will allow Keepalive API. (sledges, 08:07:22)
    4. Leszek Lesner - Community + dev (leszek, 08:16:34)

  4. Feature für phonenumber blocking (5 min - asked by Raymaen) (sledges, 08:17:00)
    1. < Raymaen> There is this question from 2013!! that did not get any attention from Jolla (as far as i could see) but I think this is a pretty standard functionality for a smartphone that should be implemented (especially in a system that wants to be secure). (sledges, 08:17:20)
    2. https://together.jolla.com/question/7614/blocklist-for-phone-calls-and-sms/ (sledges, 08:17:30)
    3. < Raymaen> Is this feature planed to be implemented in Sailfish OS or what is the reason we still don't have it? (sledges, 08:17:44)
    4. < Jolla> This is in our backlog for Phone/SMS improvements for future, but we had higher priority fixes for improving usability of the core apps. This is still not yet scheduled to work on as we still have higher priority issues in features and usability of the core apps planned for this year. (sledges, 08:18:01)
    5. < chriadam> this should be something which community could contribute to, also means writing an ofono plugin (sledges, 08:22:58)
    6. https://openrepos.net/content/omnight/phonehook (sledges, 08:23:09)

  5. End of BETA-Status for Xperia devices (15min - asked by Raymaen) (sledges, 08:23:43)
    1. < Raymaen> Dear Jolla-Team, first of all, thanks for the hard work! Is there a timeline planned for the end of the BETA-status for the Xperia devices (Sailfis X in general)? I know your situation and that corporate customers are being favored over community and private customers. (sledges, 08:23:59)
    2. < Raymaen> But it would be great to have a timeline for the END of the BETA-Status and have finaly a working device as a daily driver. (sledges, 08:24:08)
    3. https://together.jolla.com/question/198517/wiki-state-of-sailfish-x-sensors-apps-and-androidtm-support-on-sony-xa2-variants/ (sledges, 08:24:13)
    4. < Jolla> We are not preannouncing out of Beta in this meeting. We will announce it properly when its right time and we are hoping it won't take long anymore. We are working hard to make this happen as soon as possible. (sledges, 08:24:29)
    5. tortoisedoc developer (tortoisedoc, 08:31:59)

  6. Mechanism for teams to maintain apps in the store (5min - asked by KeeperoftheKeys) (sledges, 08:39:59)
    1. < KeeperoftheKeys> There are a lot of orphaned apps in the store, the ones that are actually maintained by upstream projects still can't be updated because the app is linked to a specific username of whoever originally packaged it for SailfishOS. There are 2 things needed as far as I can tell: (sledges, 08:40:22)
    2. < KeeperoftheKeys> 1 - a mechanism for others to take over maintaining OSS packages that are unmaintained, this will provide an immediate solution to this problem. (sledges, 08:40:34)
    3. < KeeperoftheKeys> 2 - as a more long term solution allowing teams to own applications instead of specific users. Case in point - I am starting to maintain gPodder for SFOS and have been granted rw access on the official github repository however I won't as far as I understand be able to submit a new version of gPodder that replaces the current one since that belongs to a different user. (sledges, 08:40:46)
    4. < Jolla> We have changed store app ownership in couple of cases. For this both the old and new ownder should contact developer-care@jolla.com (sledges, 08:41:06)
    5. mailto:developer-care@jolla.com (sledges, 08:41:48)
    6. if you have other cases where previous owner is unreachable for a very long time, please create another topic for this meeting, and we'll see if a more in-depth solution could be found, or case-by-case`d (sledges, 08:49:23)

  7. WIP AOSP8 rebase for X / X Compact (10 min - asked by vknecht) (sledges, 08:50:12)
    1. < vknecht> Been working to bring Nile-style port to Loire and getting to my limits. Device boots but no USB connectivity nor GUI yet, mainly due to dhc pattern problem preventing mic to copy sparse/ files to rootfs. (sledges, 08:50:29)
    2. < vknecht> Is Jolla ready to help, or better get the ball rolling and update official port using this work? (sledges, 08:50:38)
    3. https://build.merproject.org/project/show/home:vknecht:hw:qualcomm:f5121 (sledges, 08:50:45)

  8. General discussion (10min) (sledges, 09:01:53)
    1. Jolla has made an Android 9 proof-of-concept hw adaptation for Xperia 10, and is inviting community to work together on the port: (sledges, 09:04:02)
    2. https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Sailfish_X_Xperia_Android_9_Build_and_Flash (sledges, 09:04:12)

  9. Next meeting time & date (5min) (sledges, 09:17:29)
    1. Next meeting will be held on 8th August 2019 at 08:00 UTC (sledges, 09:20:59)


Meeting ended at 09:22:04 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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People present (lines said)

  1. sledges (101)
  2. piggz[m] (18)
  3. flypig (16)
  4. Guest73 (15)
  5. vknecht (13)
  6. chriadam (8)
  7. mal (7)
  8. tortoisedoc (6)
  9. leszek (5)
  10. faenil64 (4)
  11. birdzhang[m] (3)
  12. merbot (3)
  13. ViGe (3)
  14. faenil59 (2)
  15. faenil86 (2)
  16. kimmoli (1)


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