#mer-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – 2nd October 2019

Meeting started by sledges at 08:00:03 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2019-October/008878.html (sledges, 08:00:43)

  1. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info (sledges, 08:00:55)
    1. Simonas Leleiva – privateer for Jolla (sledges, 08:01:03)
    2. Cedric Heintz, community member (ced117, 08:01:09)
    3. Ville Nummela - Sailor@Jolla (ViGe, 08:01:16)
    4. Otto Mäkelä, community member (ExTechOp, 08:01:18)
    5. Leif-Jöran Olsson, community bee (ljo, 08:01:24)
    6. David Llewellyn-Jones - sailor@jolla (flypig, 08:02:03)
    7. abranson - privateer @ Jolla (abranson, 08:02:03)
    8. Damien Caliste, community (dcaliste, 08:03:40)
    9. Igor Zhbanov, OMP (IZh, 08:04:24)
    10. Mister_Magister, community (Mister_Magister, 08:05:08)

  2. SF Porting on Kingsun EF33 (feature phone) (10 min - asked by minos) (sledges, 08:05:38)
    1. < minos> The hardware is now available, found on china by Jolla-devices blog, thanks to Khang, local contact. Could it be possible to release a beta version of SF, for that device? Even in a unofficial way? It was shown at MWC 2018, as working prototype... A first porting request was made on Twitter with bad results; it seemed clear that a porting, without aid from Jolla is not possible. (sledges, 08:06:10)
    2. < jolla> This was just a demonstration case, we aren't working on this so there isn't anything we can share at the moment (sledges, 08:06:30)
    3. David Greaved - sailor and Mer guy (lbt, 08:07:07)

  3. having an exchange on disallowed libraries in harbour and how to improve the failing cases (30 min - asked by dcaliste) (sledges, 08:10:08)
    1. < dcaliste> see this TJC wiki [1] and the IRC log [2] from 19th September meeting. The idea is to find out why an API is not allowed from Harbour point of view and define tasks for the community to fix the deficiencies. It would be nice if some Jolla members working on SDK can find blockers for libraries mentioned in the TJC wiki. (sledges, 08:10:17)
    2. https://together.jolla.com/question/213847/status-of-allowed-libraries-in-harbour/ (sledges, 08:10:23)
    3. http://merproject.org/logs/%23mer-meeting/%23mer-meeting.2019-09-19.log.html (sledges, 08:10:26)
    4. < jolla> For the top 3 (QtLocation, TransferEngine and QtBluetooth) I don't think it makes sense for us to ask for community to help at the moment. Both QtLocation and QtBluetooth are really feasible only after the Qt upgrade. The TransferEngine is a larger topic, and our plans for that are not yet in such shape that we could ask for community contributions. (sledges, 08:11:01)
    5. < jolla> For MPRIS API, I assume this means org.nemomobile.mpris. The biggest obstacle standing between us and allowing it in harbour is the lack of documentation. Is this something that someone in the community would be willing to work on? (sledges, 08:11:15)
    6. < jolla> One of the issues raised in the TJC discussion about Mpris is that it's a bit flaky when there are multiple clients using it. If anyone in the community wants to look at this too, that also wouldn't hurt in terms of getting it into harbour. (sledges, 08:11:40)
    7. < jolla> QtMpris is here for reference: (sledges, 08:11:52)
    8. https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/qtmpris (sledges, 08:11:59)
    9. piggz porter and stuff (piggz[m], 08:12:46)
    10. binutzu community (binutzu, 08:14:11)
    11. Herrie LuneOS Developer, using Mer components & upstreaming changes (Herrie, 08:15:46)
    12. TJC to be updated, mpris documentation welcome to README.md https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/qtmpris (sledges, 08:23:01)

  4. Features that are more or less complete but lack UI to make them usable to all users (5 min - asked by ApBBB) (sledges, 08:31:50)
    1. < ApBBB> Things like USB tethering or BT tethering are more or less there (can be used with a bit of work or extra apps) but not available out of the box for all users. I am sure there are other features that are at this level (almost ready) and i'd like to ask what is the status and if/when those things are going to be ready out of the box for everyone. (sledges, 08:32:04)
    2. < ApBBB> PS. If anyone has features in mind that are at this state please add them here: (sledges, 08:32:24)
    3. Adjusting alarm clock's snooze interval. There is a patch for that: https://openrepos.net/content/slava/clock-settings (made by a Jolla employee @slava ) (sledges, 08:32:34)
    4. ^ We will not need it anymore. Look at strings to translate for SailfishOS 3.2.x.x, there is string "Snooze duration". So we can expect this feature in next OS release. (sledges, 08:32:45)
    5. < ApBBB> creating/deleting security certificates (sledges, 08:34:00)
    6. < ApBBB> email pgp stuff (sledges, 08:34:21)
    7. < jolla> Yes, "Snooze duration" is set for the upcoming 3.2.0 (sledges, 08:34:25)
    8. < jolla> USB tethering is basically a skunkworks feature that has not been polished / reviewed in detail. It has known bugs, some architectural issues, and it does not work in all devices. It might also have issues like causing unexpected costs due to not taking mobile data settings etc into account -> It is not ready to be available for everybody out-of-box. (sledges, 08:34:49)
    9. < jolla> stylistically, it also clutters up the USB mode selection dialogue, which would need redesign if more modes added (sledges, 08:35:41)
    10. a jolla blogpost about highlighting community's email pgp work is due (sledges, 08:41:51)

  5. General discussion (10min) (sledges, 08:44:21)
  6. Next meeting time & date (5min) (sledges, 08:56:28)
    1. Next meeting will be held on 17th October 2019 at 08:00 UTC (sledges, 08:57:52)

Meeting ended at 08:57:57 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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People present (lines said)

  1. sledges (65)
  2. Mister_Magister (17)
  3. piggz[m] (12)
  4. flypig (7)
  5. dcaliste (7)
  6. ExTechOp (6)
  7. lbt (5)
  8. ljo (5)
  9. abranson (4)
  10. binutzu (3)
  11. ViGe (3)
  12. merbot (2)
  13. IZh (1)
  14. chriadam (1)
  15. Herrie (1)
  16. ced117 (1)

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