#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th November 2020

Meeting started by sledges at 08:00:06 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (sledges, 08:01:38)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-12th-nov-2020/3272 (sledges, 08:01:41)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (sledges, 08:02:13)
    1. Simonas Leleiva - privateer for Jolla (sledges, 08:02:16)
    2. Björn Bidar - sailor @ Jolla (Thaodan, 08:02:31)
    3. piggz Community porter/dev (piggz, 08:02:35)
    4. David Llewellyn-Jones - sailor @ jolla (flypig, 08:02:44)
    5. thigg - community (thigg[m], 08:02:50)
    6. Ville Nummela - sailor @ Jolla (ViGe, 08:02:52)
    7. Lukas Karas - community, developer (karry_, 08:03:07)
    8. Chris Adams - developer @ Jolla (chriadam, 08:03:21)
    9. Nico - community, developer (Nico[m], 08:03:23)
    10. Damien Caliste, community (dcaliste, 08:03:32)
    11. sailr - community (sailr, 08:03:42)
    12. gmc - community (gmc, 08:04:27)
    13. abranson - sailor (abranson, 08:05:12)

  3. QtMultimedia/gstreamer unable to play back from most HTTPS sources (5 min -- asked by ahappyhuman) (sledges, 08:06:28)
    1. <ahappyhuman> while gstreamer seems to be pretty up to date, it uses a outdated libsoup and gnutls for doing network requests, as I’ve found out and written in this post: (sledges, 08:06:37)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/debugging-qml-mediaplayer/3203/3 (sledges, 08:06:45)
    3. <ahappyhuman> This seems to be the reason why virtually any playback from a https source fails. Are there any plans to solve this issue by updating libsoup and/or libgnutls or switching to e.g. curlhttpsrc (even though it’s a "bad" plugin)? (sledges, 08:06:59)
    4. <Jolla> We are moving from gnutls to openssl where possible to unify our stack: (sledges, 08:07:45)
    5. https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/glib-networking/merge_requests/3/diffs (sledges, 08:07:52)
    6. https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/libnice/merge_requests/9/diffs (sledges, 08:07:57)
    7. https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/telepathy-gabble/merge_requests/3/diffs (sledges, 08:08:02)
    8. <Jolla> Similarly previously we moved from nss to openssl where it was possible, e.g., (sledges, 08:08:15)
    9. https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/rpm/commit/2458dc762fa251c201e59a8d508db8a44c814fcb (sledges, 08:08:20)
    10. Chris - community, developer (ahappyhuman, 08:17:29)

  4. Status of PGP stuff in the email (10 min -- ApBBB) (sledges, 08:19:03)
    1. <ApBBB> This is a feature that was implemented (by Damien Caliste) long time ago, made it in the repos yet it is not available for the end user. There was supposed to be a blog post on how to use it but that never came. (sledges, 08:19:30)
    2. <ApBBB> So what is the status and if its planned to be available anytime soon? (sledges, 08:19:45)
    3.  <Jolla> we are looking alternative pgp solution that potentially could be used, one is sequioa (sledges, 08:21:23)
    4. https://gitlab.com/sequoia-pgp/sequoia (sledges, 08:21:28)
    5. <Jolla> but that is written in rust which we do not have maturized yet with Sailfish OS. (sledges, 08:21:37)
    6. <Jolla> If there are other opensource PGP stacks feel free to point to those directions. (sledges, 08:21:43)
    7. <Jolla> short howtos by dcaliste for the tech-savvy: (sledges, 08:28:20)
    8. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/email-text-disappears-with-pgp-signature/1768/10 (sledges, 08:28:25)
    9. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/pgp-aliendalvik-bug-email-with-pgp-fairmail-et-al-not-possible/3149/7 (sledges, 08:28:44)
    10. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/pgp-aliendalvik-bug-email-with-pgp-fairmail-et-al-not-possible/3149/9 (sledges, 08:28:48)
    11. <peterleinchen> And as right now this 'only' supports signatures (and working very nicely, thanks @dcaliste), I would like know if/when encryption (MIME or Inline?) will also be part of this? (sledges, 08:31:16)
    12. <dcaliste> ApBBB, yes encryption is not implemented. (sledges, 08:32:04)

  5. Headset media buttons don’t work with Android apps (5 min -- asked by sailr) (sledges, 08:36:54)
    1. <Jolla> we'll try to get an answer/solution during next meeting (sledges, 08:41:52)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-12th-nov-2020/3272/4 (sledges, 08:42:17)
    3. <abranson> there is a workaround for that, setting up the bluez mpris-proxy to run as a background service (sledges, 08:42:52)
    4. https://together.jolla.com/question/174156/bug-bluetooth-media-control-with-android-apps-and-native-apps/?answer=190869#post-id-190869 (sledges, 08:43:32)
    5. ^ it's hard to un-workaround that, especially when flight mode was used (sledges, 08:44:12)
    6. https://support.apple.com/en-en/HT204234 (sailr, 08:48:57)
    7. <piggz> suggestion to keep BT on during flight mode (iPhone does that) (sledges, 08:49:03)

  6. Choosable from/alias when sending mails (10min -- asked by sailr) (sledges, 08:50:35)
    1. <sailr> Nowadays it is common to have the option to choose out of different aliases of your account when sending an email. (sledges, 08:50:41)
    2. <sailr> Some people are missing this feature in sfos and would like to know if it can be implemented in the near future - One of several threads: (sledges, 08:51:01)
    3. https://together.jolla.com/question/165583/opportunity-to-choose-e-mail-identity-alias-as-from-when-editing-email/ (sledges, 08:51:06)
    4.  <Jolla> This isn't something that we currently have in the pipeline, but it's useful functionality and we'll look further into how this could be integrated into the UI. It would be good to have the topic moved from TJC to Sailfish OS Forum and we'd welcome your ideas about how it could work there. (sledges, 08:52:28)
    5. additional ways to contrib: investigate the QMF framework's ability to handle aliases (if missing, implementation is just as heartly welcome) (sledges, 08:57:14)
    6. <dcaliste> We can question also if we want to put this at QMF level. Maybe the right level can be in nemo-qml-plugin-email, because it's just aliases in account. I think QMF is better, but it should be well thought in advance before running to code. (sledges, 08:59:01)
    7. https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/nemo-qml-plugin-email (sledges, 09:01:28)
    8. https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/messagingframework (sledges, 09:01:31)
    9. <dcaliste> Thanks and this is where the header is built: (sledges, 09:05:17)
    10. https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/nemo-qml-plugin-email/blob/35bf3e1e539c160271201c3fcd8906332dc80729/src/emailmessage.cpp#L253 (sledges, 09:05:18)

  7. General Discussion (20 min) (sledges, 09:06:17)
  8. Next meeting time and date (5 min) (sledges, 09:26:15)
    1. Next meeting will be held on Thursday 10th December 2020 at 8:00am UTC: 2020-12-10T08Z (sledges, 09:29:19)


Meeting ended at 09:30:08 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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People present (lines said)

  1. sledges (94)
  2. Nico[m] (32)
  3. ApBBB (32)
  4. dcaliste (19)
  5. piggz (18)
  6. flypig (18)
  7. abranson (17)
  8. sailr (14)
  9. chriadam (11)
  10. gmc (11)
  11. Thaodan (8)
  12. thigg[m] (6)
  13. ViGe (4)
  14. jusa (3)
  15. sailbot (2)
  16. ahappyhuman (2)
  17. karry_ (1)
  18. rinigus (1)
  19. Venemo (1)


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