#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 22th April 2021

Meeting started by sledges at 06:59:59 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (sledges, 07:00:07)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-22nd-apr-2021/5818 (sledges, 07:00:11)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (sledges, 07:00:20)
    1. Otto Mäkelä, community (ExTechOp, 07:00:49)
    2. Simonas Leleiva -- privateer for Jolla (sledges, 07:00:50)
    3. Nico - community (Nico[m], 07:00:57)
    4. David Greaves, Jolla sailor (lbt, 07:01:06)
    5. Ruben De Smet, community, standing in for nthn (rubdos[ma], 07:02:05)
    6. Ville Nummela, sailor@Jolla (ViGe, 07:02:33)
    7. Damien Caliste, community (dcaliste, 07:02:52)
    8. Björn Bidar - sailor at Jolla (Thaodan, 07:03:33)
    9. David Llewellyn-Jones sailor @ jolla (flypig, 07:04:46)

  3. Enabling MPEG DASH in gstreamer (5 min -- asked by Mister_Magister) (sledges, 07:05:27)
    1. <Mister_Magister> Previously it was said that enabling it requires costly licenses. But upon my investigation neither DASH-IF and projects it supports require any licenses to use and neither DASH LA sells dash license anymore. This topic is just to inform and motivate Jolla to talk to their law people to check if it really needs license. Otherwise DASH is going to be very useful. (sledges, 07:05:43)
    2. <Jolla> There is no information about the patents being revoked, just that the pool collapsed? Pool apparently collapsed because many principal patent holders were missing. News hint there is an ongoing invalidation campaign, but until there is official news of the patents being voided we cannot prematurely enable such patented technology. (sledges, 07:06:20)
    3. Andrew Branson - late sailor (abranson, 07:08:14)
    4. <Jolla> Out of interest, what are the concrete use cases where you are planning to use this? And what are the benefits? (sledges, 07:08:37)
    5. <abranson> because the whole patent situation around DASH is a mess right now. There's a licensing authority but it doesn't cover enough patents so it's not active right now. So I guess the legal solution right now would be to license all those patents individually from each licensee. (sledges, 07:15:39)

  4. Collaboration with community on future-proofing Xperia X with updated Android app support (15 min -- asked by nthn, represented by rubdos) (sledges, 07:15:59)
    1. <nthn> In Nov 2019, Jolla decided against an updated baseport for Xperia X because they would have to maintain two baseports for one device, but community sees no problem in abandoning the old baseport and reflashing their devices, and is able and willing to help Jolla out with a new baseport - community member @vknecht already got Sailfish running on kernel 4.9 in Dec 2019. (sledges, 07:16:09)
    2. <nthn> Would Jolla revisit their decision, and if so, what should community do to make updated kernel/Android app support on Xperia X a reality? (sledges, 07:16:19)
    3. Extended details: (sledges, 07:16:23)
    4. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-22nd-apr-2021/5818/10 (sledges, 07:16:24)
    5. <Jolla> Jolla is not actively developing new baseports for old devices that are no longer sold anywhere, but we are looking into possibility of allowing community to buy proprietary parts of Sailfish X to install on top of community ports, but unfortunately we are not there yet. (sledges, 07:16:58)

  5. General discussion (20 min) (sledges, 07:37:37)
    1. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-22nd-april/5967 (sledges, 07:48:59)
    2. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/astro-slide-5g-transformer (ShalokShalom51, 07:49:25)
    3. https://kde.org/community/whatiskde/kdefreeqtfoundation/ (ShalokShalom51, 08:12:47)
    4. quite a discussion (make yourself a cuppa) (sledges, 08:20:45)

  6. Next meeting time and date (5 min) (sledges, 08:21:44)
    1. Next meeting will be held on Thursday 6th May 2021 at 7:00am UTC: 2021-05-06T07Z (sledges, 08:22:45)


Meeting ended at 08:23:50 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. (none)


People present (lines said)

  1. sledges (68)
  2. rubdos[ma] (51)
  3. Mister_Magister (51)
  4. Nico[m] (46)
  5. rinigus (46)
  6. ShalokShalom51 (43)
  7. Thaodan (29)
  8. abranson (17)
  9. flypig (12)
  10. maier (7)
  11. ExTechOp (4)
  12. ViGe (4)
  13. sailbot (2)
  14. lbt (2)
  15. dcaliste (1)


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