#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th May 2022

Meeting started by flypig at 07:01:10 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (flypig, 07:01:21)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-12th-may-2022/11334 (flypig, 07:01:26)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (flypig, 07:01:40)
    1. Otto Mäkelä, community (ExTechOp, 07:02:12)
    2. pherjung, community (pherjung, 07:02:20)
    3. Damien Caliste, community (dcaliste_, 07:02:22)
    4. Simonas Leleiva - privateer (sledges, 07:02:23)
    5. David Llewellyn-Jones, sailor @ jolla (flypig, 07:03:11)
    6. Björn Bidar - Sailor @ Jolla (Thaodan, 07:03:13)
    7. JP Walden - Sailor @ Jolla (jwalden, 07:04:08)
    8. David Greaves - Sailor and OBS guy (lbt, 07:04:37)
    9. Raine Mäkeälinen - Sailor @ Jolla (rainemak, 07:09:15)
    10. Raine Mäkeläinen - Sailor @ Jolla (rainemak, 07:09:27)

  3. Bug roundup (15 mins -- asked by pherjung) (flypig, 07:09:54)
    1. The Community Bug Coordination team have continued their careful and thorough herding of bugs. (flypig, 07:10:00)
    2. Thank you for the list of bugs to review. We've been through them carefully; I'll list the outcomes for each of them and then we can discuus any issues. (flypig, 07:10:06)
    3. The following have been tagged as "fixed". (flypig, 07:10:47)
    4. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/exporting-contacts-people-with-vcardconverter-doesnt-work/11132 (flypig, 07:10:51)
    5. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/main-camera-does-not-start/1905 (flypig, 07:10:55)
    6. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/incoming-calls-are-suppressed-and-a-notification-is-missing/2075 (flypig, 07:10:58)
    7. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/audio-output-detection-stopped-working/1038 (flypig, 07:11:01)
    8. The following has had a fix applied for the next release. (flypig, 07:11:06)
    9. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/4-4-0-58-tap-missing-call-doesnt-open-phone-app/10819 (flypig, 07:11:10)
    10. The following are now tagged as "tracked" and have PRs proposed to fix them. (flypig, 07:11:15)
    11. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/4-3-0-4-2-0-4-1-0-4-0-1-deleted-screenshot-is-not-handled-properly-via-notifications/5801 (flypig, 07:11:22)
    12. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/4-2-0-4-1-0-4-0-1-horizontal-line-over-one-line-sms-message-bubbles/4866 (flypig, 07:11:27)
    13. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/4-2-0-number-of-email-preview-rows-change/8083 (flypig, 07:11:30)
    14. The following already had an internal report and is now tagged as "tracked" (flypig, 07:11:38)
    15. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/bluetooth-toggle-and-indicator-is-out-of-sync-with-reality/6490 (flypig, 07:11:43)
    16. The following have new internal bug reports and have been tagged as "tracked" (flypig, 07:11:48)
    17. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/help-for-getting-mms-with-the-french-mobile-operator-bouygues/3243 (flypig, 07:11:53)
    18. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/browser-cookie-whitelist-not-working/10981 (flypig, 07:11:56)
    19. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/design-flaw-calendar-weekday-overlapping-in-german/10951 (flypig, 07:11:58)
    20. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/browser-paste-multiple-digits-when-numeric-keyboard-is-on/10035 (flypig, 07:12:01)
    21. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/browser-paste-multiple-digits-when-numeric-keyboard-is-on/10035 (flypig, 07:12:04)
    22. I've left this one as it is so I can look at the logs in more detail. (flypig, 07:12:12)
    23. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/4-4-0-58-carddav-sync-with-nextcloud-fails/11033 (flypig, 07:12:14)
    24. The following also has a new internal bug report and has been tagged as "tracked" (flypig, 07:13:33)
    25. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/screenshot-leads-to-lipstick-high-cpu-and-battery-drain/7142 (flypig, 07:13:39)
    26. <pherjung> there are a lot of bug reports. A lot are from SailfishOS 3 and I first thought it could be a good idea to track them. Finally, it's better to stay focus on the current list. (flypig, 07:21:23)
    27. <pherjung> Once it's over, I think it could be helpfull to ask all users to verify if their bug are still real (flypig, 07:21:34)

  4. Community OBS status after May 2022 (10 min -- asked by rinigus) (flypig, 07:24:34)
    1. <rinigus> We are getting close to the anniversary of the announcement regarding community OBS. (flypig, 07:24:41)
    2. <rinigus> As the commitment by Jolla was made for a year, it would be great to hear what are the plans regarding OBS. (flypig, 07:24:49)
    3. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-obs-refurbished-and-re-floated/6556 (flypig, 07:24:57)
    4. <Jolla> We've been following usage of OBS carefully and are impressed with how well it's been made use of by the community. (flypig, 07:25:47)
    5. <Jolla> While it clearly provides benefits, OBS is still a significant resource drain and we are still therefore considering how to support it longer term. (flypig, 07:25:52)
    6. <Jolla> Although we're coming to the end of the 12 month period, we're still exploring options, and therefore it won't be taken out of service imminently. (flypig, 07:25:57)
    7. <Jolla> As soon as the situation is clearer a concrete announcement will be made. (flypig, 07:26:03)

  5. General discussion (20 min) (flypig, 07:44:45)
    1. https://docs.sailfishos.org/Services/Development/Open_Build_Service/ (flypig, 07:53:23)
    2. For info about the benefits and uses of OBS, the earlier discussion on the forum covers useful ground. (flypig, 07:56:19)
    3. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/obs-shut-down-and-next-steps/1814/9 (flypig, 07:56:30)
    4. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/announcing-sailfishos-chum/7381 (flypig, 07:56:51)
    5. https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/1524377383985459200 (flypig, 07:58:56)
    6. 'We encourage the community to now put the case to Jolla "here's what we did with the OBS over the last 12 months ... now... can we keep it?" (flypig, 08:19:05)
    7. ACTION: lbt to look into publishing any potentially useful OBS/chum stats. (flypig, 08:23:06)

  6. Next meeting time and date (5 min) (flypig, 08:23:31)
    1. ACTION: piggz to share chum stats at the next meeting. (flypig, 08:24:30)
    2. Next meeting will be held on Thursday 26th May 2022 at 07:00am UTC: 2022-05-26T0700Z (flypig, 08:27:10)


Meeting ended at 08:27:49 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. lbt to look into publishing any potentially useful OBS/chum stats.
  2. piggz to share chum stats at the next meeting.


Action items, by person

  1. lbt
    1. lbt to look into publishing any potentially useful OBS/chum stats.
  2. piggz
    1. piggz to share chum stats at the next meeting.


People present (lines said)

  1. flypig (111)
  2. lbt (36)
  3. pherjung (16)
  4. dcaliste_ (15)
  5. Thaodan (15)
  6. piggz (12)
  7. abr (4)
  8. ExTechOp (3)
  9. sailbot (2)
  10. sledges (2)
  11. rainemak (2)
  12. jwalden (1)


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