#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 23rd Nov 2023

Meeting started by rainemak at 08:00:30 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (rainemak, 08:00:46)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-23rd-november-2023/17342 (rainemak, 08:00:46)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (rainemak, 08:00:46)
    1. Raine Mäkeläinen, sailor @ Jolla, chairperson today (rainemak, 08:00:46)
    2. Otto Mäkelä, community (ExTechOp, 08:00:56)
    3. pherjung, community (pherjung[m], 08:01:03)
    4. David Llewellyn-Jones, community (flypig, 08:02:12)
    5. poetaster, community (poetaster, 08:04:55)

  3. WebView + PullDownMenu (10mins -- asked by pherjung) (rainemak, 08:05:24)
    1. <pherjung> To improve harbour-hydrogen these days, we tried to include (rainemak, 08:05:40)
    2. <pherjung> a pulley menu 1 to access settings and other pages. Unfortunately, (rainemak, 08:05:40)
    3. <pherjung> we found that this feature breaks scrolling. As soon as you scroll (rainemak, 08:05:40)
    4. <pherjung> up, you have to scroll down to scroll within the WebView. On the (rainemak, 08:05:40)
    5. <pherjung> other hand, you’ll be able to trigger the pulley menu. (rainemak, 08:05:40)
    6. <pherjung> (rainemak, 08:05:41)
    7. <pherjung> We found out that there is a pulley menu on the Jolla email and this (rainemak, 08:05:43)
    8. <pherjung> bug is not there. I’ve tried to understand the differences between (rainemak, 08:05:45)
    9. <pherjung> harbour-hydrogen and Jolla email, but haven’t found the solution. (rainemak, 08:05:47)
    10. <pherjung> What was done in Jolla Email to make scrolling within a WebView with (rainemak, 08:05:49)
    11. <pherjung> a pulley menu work? (rainemak, 08:05:51)
    12. https://github.com/hydrogen-sailfishos/sfos-hydrogen/commit/1578413d114597abf983711dc007c99e30d3f3cc (rainemak, 08:05:53)
    13. https://openrepos.net/content/markkyboy/patch-returns-pulley-menu-email-view (rainemak, 08:05:56)
    14. https://github.com/hydrogen-sailfishos/sfos-hydrogen/tree/hackathon (rainemak, 08:05:58)
    15. <Jolla> Thank you for this question. This is very interesting one. (rainemak, 08:06:05)
    16. <Jolla> When we removed pulley menus (plural) from the Jolla email we had (rainemak, 08:06:06)
    17. <Jolla> a challenge on combining Flickable and Gecko based WebView. Reason (rainemak, 08:06:06)
    18. <Jolla> for the Flickable is that PulleyMenu requires Flickable to work. (rainemak, 08:06:08)
    19. <Jolla> (rainemak, 08:06:10)
    20. <Jolla> The challenge comes from the fact that there are two viewports (rainemak, 08:06:15)
    21. <Jolla> that should be moving within the same coordinate system simultaneously. (rainemak, 08:06:15)
    22. <Jolla> Bottom viewport is the WebView one and on top of it we have Flickable. (rainemak, 08:06:16)
    23. <Jolla> They should have contentLength that equal to the content length of the (rainemak, 08:06:18)
    24. <Jolla> web content. For both, viewport size is roughly the screen resolution (rainemak, 08:06:20)
    25. <Jolla> (minus header and footer) whereas content length usually is much more. (rainemak, 08:06:22)
    26. <Jolla> (rainemak, 08:06:24)
    27. <Jolla> This caused html content drifting whilst opening the PullDownMenu as (rainemak, 08:06:26)
    28. <Jolla> events are/were also delivered to the web content i.e. causing parallax effect. (rainemak, 08:06:28)
    29. <Jolla> We’re pretty sure that problem has not yet disappeared. (rainemak, 08:06:32)
    30. <Jolla> (rainemak, 08:06:34)
    31. <Jolla> The patch that you’re referring does not fix contentHeight rather having (rainemak, 08:06:44)
    32. <Jolla> contentHeight fixed to screen height – like it used to. Thus, it is not (rainemak, 08:06:44)
    33. <Jolla> hiding pulley indicator properly and doesn’t work if you’d have both (rainemak, 08:06:44)
    34. <Jolla> PullDownMenu and PushUpMenu declared. It is a coincident that the patch works (rainemak, 08:06:44)
    35. <Jolla> at the first place. (rainemak, 08:06:46)
    36. https://github.com/hydrogen-sailfishos/sfos-hydrogen/commit/1578413d114597abf983711dc007c99e30d3f3cc (rainemak, 08:07:27)
    37. https://openrepos.net/content/markkyboy/patch-returns-pulley-menu-email-view (rainemak, 08:07:36)
    38. https://github.com/hydrogen-sailfishos/sfos-hydrogen/tree/hackathon (rainemak, 08:07:43)
    39. Damien Caliste, community (dcaliste, 08:12:42)
    40. It might be possible to avoid text selection by binding pulley menu active property to the webview's enabled (rainemak, 08:15:12)

  4. Sailfish OS at FOSDEM’24 (5mins -- asked by flypig) (rainemak, 08:18:46)
    1. <flypig> Some details about the topic: FOSDEM’24 will take place on 3-4 February 2024. (rainemak, 08:18:52)
    2. <flypig> Sailfish OS will be represented on the “Linux on Mobile” stand. However, as (rainemak, 08:18:53)
    3. <flypig> I won’t be able to present on the stand the whole time, if anyone else is (rainemak, 08:18:53)
    4. <flypig> planning to attend and would like to help for a bit, please get in touch. (rainemak, 08:18:53)
    5. <flypig> Last year it was a blast on the stand! (rainemak, 08:18:53)
    6. <flypig> FOSDEM’24: FOSDEM 2024 - Home (rainemak, 08:18:53)
    7. <flypig> Stands: FOSDEM 2024 - Accepted stands for FOSDEM 2024 (rainemak, 08:18:55)
    8. https://fosdem.org/2024/ (rainemak, 08:18:57)
    9. https://fosdem.org/2024/news/2023-11-20-accepted-stands-fosdem-2024/ (rainemak, 08:18:59)
    10. As you flypig noted, a very late meeting topic submission. Added to the agenda regardless. (rainemak, 08:19:11)
    11. I'll ask around to understand who's going. (rainemak, 08:19:11)

  5. Open PR discussion (10 mins -- asked by jolla) (rainemak, 08:24:50)
    1. <Jolla> Any open PRs to discuss? (rainemak, 08:24:50)

  6. Bug reports (5 min -- asked by pherjung) (rainemak, 08:29:53)
    1. <pherjung> Bug reports (rainemak, 08:29:53)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-23rd-november-2023/17342/2 (rainemak, 08:29:53)
    3. <Jolla> As always, the Community Bug Coordination Team have done a superb job. (rainemak, 08:29:53)
    4. <Jolla> As a result of their work, we now have: (rainemak, 08:29:53)
    5. <Jolla> 4 high quality bug reports now recorded internally and tagged as "tracked" (rainemak, 08:29:55)
    6. <Jolla> 2 bug reports flagged with needinfo (rainemak, 08:29:56)
    7. <Jolla> 1 bug report under investigation (rainemak, 08:29:58)
    8. <Jolla> 5 bugs were closed. (rainemak, 08:30:02)

  7. General discussion (5 min) (rainemak, 08:35:28)
    1. Two issues on Sony xperia 10 III that really need resolving: missing echo cancellation and camera support. Is there any work being done on these? (rainemak, 08:44:07)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/camera2-api-development/14491/ (rainemak, 08:44:16)
    3. As far as I understand, echo cancellation issue is on the Sony blobs (rainemak, 08:44:53)

  8. Next meeting time and date (5 min) (rainemak, 08:55:59)
    1. Next meeting will be held on Thursday 7th December 2023 at 07:00am UTC: 2023-12-07T0700Z (rainemak, 08:58:17)


Meeting ended at 08:58:48 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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People present (lines said)

  1. rainemak (127)
  2. flypig (24)
  3. pherjung[m] (17)
  4. poetaster (11)
  5. ExTechOp (9)
  6. pherjung (6)
  7. dcaliste (3)
  8. sailbot_ (2)


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