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Isabella18 You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos6900:04
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Yanielwhy are they only spamming these two channels00:05
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Yanielthese are kind of niche after all00:06
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FireFlyIt's spammed occasionally in #twitchplayspokemon too if that helps00:17
FireFly...but no other channels I'm in, surprisingly00:17
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canurabushi all. does the toolchain that comes with the jolla sdk support c++11?00:56
YanielI'm pretty sure it does00:57
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canurabushmmm. ive run into some weird issues before where compiling a lib or bin with c++11 support and using it against libs compiled *without* c++11 causes all manner of nightmares01:05
canurabusi guess ill just have to try and see01:06
Yanielthere was some magic line you have to add to the pro file for it to compile as c++1101:09
canurabusQMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -std=c++11 :p01:09
canurabusi think thats it anyway01:09
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YanielI saw another one01:10
denexterls01:14
Yaniel.01:14
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Sandy25 Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos6904:04
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Hannah27 You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos6906:03
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Hannah24 Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos6908:05
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Quu.08:07
Quufuck these fucking spambots08:07
PeperJohnnyspambots ftl :<08:07
Quuoh great, now it changes IP too08:07
Stskeepsi did not expect it jumping to "Hannah" from "Abby"08:08
Quume neither08:08
Quuerh08:08
Pnuubetter to ignore that url08:08
Quusure sure, but people will click it anyway08:09
Quuand its only this channel where it spams08:09
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Pnuutrue :-/08:09
Quuso its someone from this channel who does it08:09
slateban all.08:10
Quueasiest would be to ban those 3-5 IP's it uses08:10
tbrbtw: the URL expands to something like: ?pk_campaign=irc&pk_kwd=freenode08:10
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tbrso they're targetting all of freenode08:10
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Quustaff could (somewhat) easily add it into shitlist but but.08:12
Quuwell, depending on anope-modules they use08:12
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TMavicafirst time suffer autoshutdown of my jolla..08:17
TMavicahappened 4 times in 1 day08:18
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eriolloanHi sailors ! does any of you know by any chance the jolla's fedex account number ? I have one day left to return them my device and without this number I'm just stuckā€¦..09:00
Waiteewhy would you return your device?09:00
Waitee:D09:00
eriolloanbecause it broke after an hour ?09:01
eriolloan;)09:01
Yanieldefine broke?09:01
Waiteeout of money i guess09:01
Waitee":D"09:01
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eriolloanfailed update and no way to access the recovery tool :s09:01
eriolloanI've had help from stskeeps and aard09:02
Waiteeoh09:02
Waiteebad luck09:02
Waitee:P09:02
Stskeepseriolloan: you should have gotten a AWB from care09:02
eriolloanyup I did09:02
eriolloanjust it's not enough09:02
eriolloanFedex here says they need the account number of the paty taking charge for the return09:03
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eriolloanmaybe I really misunderstood : should I create an account for myself ?09:03
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eriolloananyway I'm stuck with the airwaybill and no information09:04
eriolloanjust that they won't pick it up without an account number. and Jolla Care provided nothing of the sort09:05
eriolloan:(09:05
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eriolloanthe AWB being valid until today and having no answer coming from zendesk I'm trying my luck here09:07
eriolloanuntil tomorow *09:07
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Venemois there a possibility to respond to user comments on harbour apps?09:27
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kontioVenemo: no currently not09:38
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Venemokontio: it'd be a great thing! some users have misconceptions about my apps and I'd like to respond to them09:43
Venemokontio: I tried to write a comment for my app and respond there, but it disappeared :(09:43
StskeepsVenemo: do they think it's talking to PackageKit? ;)09:43
VenemoStskeeps: examples: many users think that they can't send puzzle master to the background (you can; you just need to open the game menu first); or many others don't understand the side-pulleys in IRC09:44
Stskeepsnod09:44
WntI have responded to some user comments via Jolla store09:45
WntAnd I have seen some users to comment multiple times to the same application09:46
WntHas this changed somehow?09:46
Venemoman, the SDK broke again09:48
VenemoFatal: SailfishOS-armv7hl is an invalid sb2 target09:48
VenemoWTF09:48
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lpotterI dont update sdk's unless I have too09:51
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Venemomeh, this is ridiculous09:54
VenemoStskeeps: do you by any chance know what to do with that?09:55
Stskeepsls -al .scratchbox209:55
Venemohm?09:56
Venemowhere?09:56
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Stskeeps$HOME09:56
VenemoI don't have ~/.scratchbox2 if that's what you mean09:56
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Stskeepshmmm09:57
Stskeepsi'd expect you to09:57
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Venemomaybe I deleted it, or forgot to copy it over when I last reinstalled the OS09:57
VenemoI didn't expect scratchbox2 to pollute my $HOME, I thought it only stores its stuff on the VM09:59
VenemoStskeeps: is there a way to fix it?10:00
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StskeepsVenemo: i would be lying if i said i knew anything of the sdk..10:00
Stskeepsjake9xx_: might know or kaltsi10:01
Venemojake9xx_, kaltsi: could you please help me with this?10:01
Venemothanks for the pointer Stskeeps :)10:01
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Sophie19 Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos6910:04
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Stskeepsoh sophie..10:04
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hene-hmm, not really sfw10:06
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QuuStskeeps: this too: 95.141.20.19610:11
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zmoola!10:23
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zmoit looks like sailfish can't log on my own xmpp accounts10:26
zmoactually I'm not even sure it really tries, even though the fqdn part of my j-id is matching my xmpp server10:26
osatonzmo, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9205310:27
osatonthe ignore-ssl-errors part10:28
zmohow do I access the CLI?10:28
zmoI did not find a term application10:28
Raimit will be installed if you enable developer mode10:29
zmooh ok, enabling it right away then :-)10:29
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zmoand is there a proper ssh application?10:30
sharpneliYes. OpenSSH10:31
zmoahah :)10:31
sharpneliIt'll be there when you have the developer terminal available :)10:31
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zmowell, let's see how the terminal looks like first :-)10:31
sharpneliI don't want to give you too much expectations but it's the best terminal ever.10:32
zmois "allow developer updates" useful?10:32
sharpneliNo10:32
Stskeepsno,don't touchti10:32
sharpneliThat's unstable stuff.10:32
zmobasically it's for install over the air unstable revisions of the OS?10:33
sharpnelizmo: Just imagine. Swiping on the terminal keyboard to the left gives you alt+right which in irssi changes the window. And swiping up and down gives you page up and page down ;)10:33
sharpneliYes10:33
kaltsiVenemo_j: did you ask for sdk help, please join #sailfisos for that10:33
Quuzmo: yes, but its not working currently and will fuck everything up \o/10:33
zmook, good to know :-)10:33
zmoso basically, it's to be enabled when there's an awesome nighlybuilt that is accidentally stable I guess10:34
Quubasically10:35
Quuiirc they talked something about needing some sort of special account for it10:36
Quuwhen they get all of it working10:36
zmowhaā€¦ the shell is updating my osx terminal with funky icons10:36
zmo(I'm using zsh and my own zshrc for over ten years, so I can easily get impressed by default bash configuration :-p)10:37
zmoI guess now that I'm logged in it's time for me to join #sailfishos :-)10:41
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zmoit's really weird to have the atmosphere page one swipe from the home screen, whereas more useful features are about 3 actions away10:52
fluxI really hope it's just a placeholder for some awesome feature people want to use many times a day :)10:53
zmoindeed, that's what I'm hoping as well :-)10:53
zmoalso I find it weird to have the radio toggles/brightness in settings10:54
kimmolizmo: they are talking about tits in #sailfishos10:54
Quutits.10:54
zmoyeah, if they are talking about tits, I'm coming \o/10:55
zmo:-p (.)(.)10:55
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Venemo_jkaltsi: ok11:07
ln-Venemo_j: what are the historical reasons why ambience should be spelled ambience and ambiance in TOH specs?11:07
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Venemo_jln-: how should I know?11:14
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ln-Venemo_j: because of this revision log: https://together.jolla.com/questions/25066/revisions/11:15
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Venemo_jln-: I git it from one of the anssers11:20
Venemo_janswers*11:20
Venemo_jln-: basically, some software was written with one spelling and wasn't renamed according to the marketing name11:21
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zmoln- - well, the right spelling is ambiance, not ambience anyway11:24
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fluxWordNet knows both11:24
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ln-zmo: the "right" according to whom?11:25
fluxbut if a choice needs to be made, maybe the french spelling would be better, if it is its origin11:25
flux(assuming it is its french spelling)11:25
zmoln- - as it comes from ambire + antia11:25
zmoantia meaning the "action of" and ambire meaning surrounding11:26
ln-Venemo_j: oh, i missed that part in the answer. however, the answer is confusing, "The marketing name is ambiance"  --- no it isn't.11:26
zmocf http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ambiance11:26
zmothough the french wiktionary is more accurate11:26
Quuits the "color" vs "colour" arguments again :p11:27
zmoQuu - I'm not a native english speaker, so when I got to choose I refer to etymology :-)11:28
ln-the Guide uses "ambience" exclusively, and all instances with 'a' at jolla.com are at tjc.11:28
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zmoQuu - though, I find the color vs colour not really disturbing, but the -ough -> -o a lot more disturbing, especially when I get to read people from both US and UK11:30
ppMarketing should have decided and done internal marketing :-)11:30
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zmopp - indeed, and they should have used "ympƤristƶ" instead, so no more debate :-p11:30
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Quuhaha11:31
zmoand it's not pronounceable by 99% of the world, so people will not complain about that11:31
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Quutrue.11:31
zmo(maybe except finish people)11:31
zmo(but they don't complain, they're finish)11:31
ppI've seen similar things happen soooo many times :-)11:32
Quu*finnish11:32
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ln-zmo: you just lost your credibility on spelling advice.11:32
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ppspelling like this is mild, sometimes you notice you're using something culturally sensitive11:32
pp"Oops, we used OSM for our map and country X disagrees with the borders, we have a sales pitch in 15 minutes!"11:33
Pnuulike "tits", those nice little birds :-)11:33
zmoln- - it's not me, it's my fingers!11:33
SpeedEvilpp: Fix borders, upload to OSM - job done11:33
ppMalicious hackers coming from antartica seems to be a good choice :-)11:33
zmoSpeedEvil - then you have country Y disagreeing11:34
SpeedEvilzmo: yes - but that happens after the presentation - so it doesn't matter.11:34
zmothink of south morocco/north mauritania/western sahara11:35
zmoor north japan/russia and the Kuril islands11:37
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zmoor UK/Argentina and the falklands11:37
zmoā€¦11:37
svuorelaor DK/Canada and Hans Ƙ11:38
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Venemo_jln-: maybe they improved it since11:54
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vatteservice was really fast, Jolla had arrived back to DNA store already yesterday after taking it there last friday13:18
ggabrielthe joys of being in finland :D13:18
ggabrielbtw, i took the phone for a ride yesterday, first time after update13:19
vattethey had changed battery, sim card holder and I guess reflashed it, hopefully this solves the problem :)13:19
ggabrieland it was quite buggy :)13:19
ggabrielnothing that a reboot wouldn't fix13:19
ggabrielbut buggy nonetheless13:19
vatteggabriel: what kind of bugs did you encounter?13:19
ggabriel213:19
ggabriel1. the internet was gone, even though it was connected to the network13:19
ggabrielit wouldn't connect to 3g13:19
ggabrielreboot and problem solved13:19
ggabriel2. started the maps application, and i lost the side swipes (pull)13:20
Nicd-I just had my first shutdown for 3 days13:20
ggabrielso it was very difficult to multitask13:20
ggabrielreobot and was gone13:20
ggabrielit never shut down or anything13:20
Nicd-actually 3 days 17 hours, that's my new uptime record13:20
ggabrieli was on the road, so didn't bother to get logs etc etc13:20
vatteNicd-: nice (kinda :P)13:20
ggabrielif it happens again, i'll do a sudo journalctl > stateofaffairs.log :)13:21
Nicd-vatte: I'm leaning on sad13:21
vatteI'm happy to have it fixed, especially the sim card disconnecting issue was definitely a hardware fault13:21
vattefingers crossed that shutdowns don't reappear13:22
vattefor both of us...13:22
vattethen to figure out how to connect arduino to the other half13:24
Pnuuattiny flasher TOH13:26
vatteI wonder if the i2c on jolla can take 3.3v13:27
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ggabrielvatte: there are specs for that13:32
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vatteggabriel: it's rated at 1.8v but I haven't seen specs for what it tolerates13:34
vattebut probably good to build a level shifter13:34
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ggabrielmy knowledge of electronics is pretty much null13:34
ggabrielbut i wouldn't risk it :)13:34
ggabrieli have pugged in 110v into a 220v socket in the past and the result wasn't that good ;)13:35
vatte:)13:35
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kimmoliuse level converter.15:03
TheBootroo_workyeah15:04
TheBootroo_workmy app Feed'me is finally published on harbour15:04
TheBootroo_work!!15:04
MerbotTheBootroo_work: Error: "!" is not a valid command.15:04
TheBootroo_workMerbot: shut up you stupid bot15:05
MerbotTheBootroo_work: Error: "shut" is not a valid command.15:05
TheBootroo_workx-)15:05
Nicd-err15:05
Nicd-what's the point of that?15:05
TheBootroo_workNicd-: of what ?15:05
Nicd-Merbot15:06
Nicd-does it do anything useful?15:06
TheBootroo_workyeah i dunno what this bot is meant to15:06
TheBootroo_workMerbot: help15:06
MerbotTheBootroo_work: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.15:06
kimmolivatte: suggested reading http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9232915:06
TheBootroo_workMerbot: list15:06
MerbotTheBootroo_work: Admin, Bugtracker, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Karma, MeetBot, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Notify, Owner, Quote, QuoteGrabs, RSS, Seen, and User15:06
Nicd-it should shut up if somethig is not a valid command15:07
Nicd-and just ignore it15:07
PnuuI've never seen a useful bot15:09
tbrTheBootroo_work: stop messing with the bot, ktxbai15:10
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TheBootroo_worktbr: i can haz smart bot plz ?15:10
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tbrTheBootroo_work: no, but you can have a kickban from Stskeeps or lbt15:10
Pnuufor what? :-P15:11
ggabrielPnuu: never seen a useful bot?!15:11
TheBootroo_worktbr: for saying shut up to a stupid bot ? that's quite unfair15:11
ggabriel< gab> !coin15:11
ggabriel< Helga> gab: heads15:11
Pnuuggabriel: never15:11
ggabrieldude, look at that15:11
ggabrieldo you know how many binary decisions i've made thanks to that? :)15:11
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tbralso that bot is responsible for creating public logs of this channel. I can see this being useful to some people.15:12
Pnuuggabriel: 1015:12
ggabrieltrue15:12
ggabriel(logs i mean)15:12
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ggabrieldepends how you write the plugins i guess15:12
Stskeepsbot stays15:12
ggabrieland you can switch off the responses15:12
ggabrielall this reminds me i need to fix my bot15:13
ggabrielpython can be annoying sometimes15:13
Morpog_Jolla_new irc update in store :)15:13
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Nicd-tbr: I would say it should not say "not a valid command"... doing nothing should be an indication in itself15:14
Morpog_Jolla_with settings \O/15:14
tbrNicd-: I can lobotomize it for this channel. there are channels where this is required.15:14
Nicd-strange channels15:15
tachikomais it not possible to just ignore the bot if it anoys you?15:15
tbralthough that will mean that you can not look up mer/nemo bugs anymore AFAIUC15:15
tbrNicd-: #mer-meeting ...15:15
* kimmoli adds bookmark here15:15
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ggabrieltbr: uhm... i think you can just turn off those errors15:16
ggabrielit isn't important, otherwise i'd look it up15:16
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Stskeepshttps://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/436158865436987392/photo/115:24
Stskeepsbets on who's desk it is, is welcome..15:24
Stskeeps:P15:24
* tbr knows that desk15:25
ggabrielis that an ibm keyboard?15:25
Azogwhere is this desk?15:25
tbrin ruoholahti15:26
Azogclub mate exports from .de to .fi *g* it is just a small brewery15:26
tbrthey sell it at quite high prices in finland15:26
tbr3.5-4.5ā‚¬ a bottle15:27
ggabriellol, club mate15:27
ggabrielso, that's in .de?15:27
ggabrieloh, right15:27
ggabrielfizzy mate is too weird15:27
ggabrielwhen you grew up in argentina :)15:27
tbrstill need to get me one of those mate mugs and 'straws' some day15:27
pp:-)15:28
ppmate <315:28
pp(damn expensive habit, tho)15:28
ggabrieltbr: that can be arranged15:28
tbr"Mate, you get used to it"15:28
ggabrieltbr: but do you get the herbs? (yerba)15:28
tbrggabriel: I know some stores in poland where I can get both. Haven't checked the availability in .fi yet.15:28
ggabrielright, much closer then15:29
ggabrieli've got a pumpkin "mug"15:29
Azogthe brewery is here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/49.6370/10.5910 a really small town in the middle of nowhere15:29
tbrquite a few of my colleagues in poland have developed a mate habit15:29
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ggabrielmate has caffeine15:29
ggabrielthat's why15:29
ggabriel:)15:29
ggabrieltbr: do they share with the same straw?15:30
tbrggabriel: everyone has their own mug and straw though15:30
ggabrieli thought so :)15:30
ggabrieli used to share and evreything with friends in the uk15:30
ggabrieland everybody thought we were taking drugs15:30
ggabrielwhich was quite funny15:30
tbr:)15:31
tbrI think I haven't seen a pumpkin (or other fruit) mug at the office. All seemed to be stoneware.15:31
ggabrielthey don't look lke pumpkin15:31
ggabrielthey're made of it15:31
ggabrieland the taste lasts 3-6 months15:31
ggabrielbut it's quite nice15:32
ggabrielwooden are the classic ones15:32
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ggabrieltrouble is that thye may break/leak/etc15:32
ggabrielreminds me i need to buy yerba15:32
ggabrieli'm missing my saturday/sunday mate15:32
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Quui am not your mate, pal15:34
ggabrieli'm not your pal, buddy15:34
tbrso right said fred were singing about the drink...15:35
cvpkimmoli: you here ???15:36
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louisdkAnyone living in Finland that would be able to receive two phone cases and forward them to me? Living in Denmark.16:34
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ccha2my jolla buggy. red led binding16:59
tbryou jolla empty. you charge.16:59
ccha2red led stopped16:59
tanghusI would *really* appreciate it if harbour dashboard would soon be functional...17:00
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ccha2tbr: no it was just after 3G buggy and there are alot messages about fail connections17:01
ccha2then I switched to wlan, and so setting screen freeze17:02
ccha2and red led17:02
tbrwell you should have mentioned that in the first place then17:02
ccha2now after rebooted, 13% battery17:02
ccha2someone already got the case ?17:03
ggabrielccha2: i had weird troubles yesterday with a 3g connection, but no connection problem, no battery drain17:04
ggabrielso, i dunno17:04
ggabriela reboot helped17:05
ggabrielno red led either17:05
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ccha2that's second time for me17:05
ggabrielwell, yesterday was the 1st time i take it out for a ride since the update17:06
ggabrielthe rest of the time, on wlan, it worked very well17:06
ggabrielconman may need some extra luv17:06
ccha2the 1st time, while red led, i removed battery, then the device did boot loop. I fixed it with the recovery brtfs17:07
ggabrielwhy remove battery?17:07
ggabrieldoesn't a really long power press do the trick?17:07
ccha2red led for so long17:07
ccha2and screen is dark17:07
ggabrielyeah, red led means "we're still here"17:07
ggabrielso, power button didn't work?17:08
ccha2nope17:08
ggabrielinteresting17:08
ccha2but this time is work17:08
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ccha2and still dark screen so you don't know if it's stopping or not17:09
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ccha2last time I wait long time and still red led17:09
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ccha2today, after few minutes, it stopped17:09
ggabrieli had a dark screen today, no red led, which i fixed by pushing from the top (like closing an application)17:10
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ggabrielthat used to happen before the latest update17:10
ccha2it happened for me after the lastes update17:12
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ccha2no problem before17:12
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lokimotivehey17:19
Accehello17:20
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AMD_pst. its AMD17:40
Stskeepswoo, AMD17:41
Stskeeps:P17:41
AMD_i could've joined earlier but school :v17:42
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louisdkIt's pretty difficult to scroll down: http://i.imgur.com/UbTrsLC.png :/17:46
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JUJames_AMD_: sup.17:47
AMD_JUJames_: nm and u17:48
AMD_oohhh a lot of TMO guys here17:48
JUJames_a LOT!17:48
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AMD_and thedead is even here... oh god this is gonna be fun17:50
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JUJames_:D17:54
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Stskeepsno tmo trolling here :(17:55
Sail0rlol17:56
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ggabriel!google define troll17:57
Merbotggabriel: Error: "google" is not a valid command.17:57
ggabrielargh :)17:57
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AMD_no no tmo trolling dont worry18:01
AMD_it was just heart-warming to see his name here ^_^18:01
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thedead1440lol18:13
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chem|stStskeeps: my sister has a bricked device, she is now in on telnet - any advice?18:31
Stskeepswhat version and how did it brick18:32
chem|st3.818:32
Stskeepsthere's an item for btrfs fix isn't there18:32
chem|stit is gone into bootloop and was found dead18:32
chem|styes btrfs recovery18:32
Yanielaka factory reset18:33
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Stskeepschem|st: select that one first18:34
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chem|stStskeeps: is there any way to get the .vault moved first?18:35
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Stskeepsthis isn't a factory reset, but yes, you can access a shell too18:35
Sail0rwhy do the phones get brick?18:37
Morpog_Jolla_i guess filesystem corruption18:37
chem|stStskeeps: any harm going to the shell and try to recover the vault first?18:38
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Stskeepschem|st: no, but you might need some hands-on magic18:38
chem|stlike?18:38
Stskeepswell, you get a busybox shell and that's it18:38
Stskeeps:P18:38
chem|stdoes btrfs recovery reset the phone?18:38
Stskeepsno18:39
chem|stso busybox built-in only18:39
Stskeepsit just fixes the fs18:39
chem|stah ok so we might just try that first then18:39
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Sail0rwhy does the filesystem corruption occur? Unclean shutdown? Running out of space?18:39
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Morpog_Jolla_welo btrfs isn't the oldest fs out there i would say ;)18:40
Morpog_Jolla_well18:40
chem|stStskeeps: so try recover btrfs first - then busybox - then factory reset?18:40
Yanielit's still said to be a bit uh, unstable18:40
Stskeepschem|st: aye18:41
chem|stSail0r: it might be that the device ran out of battery18:41
Sail0rok18:41
Sail0rthat might be a reason18:41
chem|stStskeeps: thankyou18:41
louisdkHi. It would be nice if a person living in Finland could receive 2 Jolla cases for me and ship them to Denmark. I'll cover all cost and I have a 50ā‚¬ voucher for a Jolla Phone I can give in return.18:41
chem|stStskeeps: that is another issue - at about 30% the phone might shutdown or even just die18:42
chem|stStskeeps: it booted again18:42
chem|stbattery says 93% wtf?18:43
Morpog_Jolla_chem|st: that never happened to me. Sounds like a faulty battery?18:43
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chem|stMorpog_Jolla_: that happened to several people now, they claim that it depends on temperature, what I do not buy18:44
chem|stStskeeps: my sister says thank you very much!18:44
Stskeepschem|st: after that, turn off device properly, take battery out 10 minutes18:44
Stskeepsand back in18:44
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chem|stStskeeps: in progress18:45
salami`louisdk: check pm18:45
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chem|stStskeeps: seems fine now, seems it charges the battery in that recovery state19:00
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* kimmoli started sdk. time to code.19:04
Jope:-)19:04
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chem|stStskeeps: I had to reinstall all android stuff and after I did so I had the upgrade pending again, on console it updated previously held back nokia-here things ofono and two others I do not remember19:11
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louisdkIt is possible to sync the Nokia N9 and the Jolla Phone?19:22
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chem|stlouisdk: yeah but do not expect to much19:24
chem|stlouisdk: I have several contacts not synched properly or not synched at all19:25
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Skorpy^19:25
bentzhi19:26
SkorpyBetter results by exporting contacts into files and importing them to jolla. (even faster is to combine the contact files to one file and then import)19:26
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Yanielcan haz caldav & carddav in next update? ^^19:28
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louisdk<chem|st: Okay. i think I'll not do it that way then.19:29
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vattekimmoli: cheers!19:34
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* kimmoli is here :)19:40
kimmoliassuming cvp is not here anymore, it was old yell..19:41
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Mya29 Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos6920:03
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Venemook, this is ridiculous20:08
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Venemojolla behaves extremely erratically on low-battery conditions20:09
Venemoand refuses to turn on while charging20:09
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Morpog_PCvenemo, use a stronger charger20:12
Morpog_PC2A20:12
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VenemoI tried charging with my laptop, then plugged it into the one that came with it and waited until it charget to 5% - it still couldn't turn on20:12
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VenemoI know, patience is a virtue, but why can't it turn on while charging?20:13
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Venemomy last attempt resulted in a black screen and a blinkind red LED20:14
Venemosorry20:14
Venemoit was green20:14
Venemomy last attempt resulted in a black screen and a blinkind green LED20:15
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Venemonow took out the battery for a minute and plugged in the charger once again - it booted a few seconds later by itself. now it reports that the battery is at 15% and20:15
Venemohm20:15
Venemoisn't it a bit early for the battery to die already?20:16
raa79latest update did something20:17
raa79idle consumption around 2%/h now, before update something like .3%20:17
Morpog_PCmy N9 also didn't start with low battery on N9 charger20:17
raa79with tohd.service disabled20:17
Morpog_PCbut with that asus nexus 7 charger it always started20:18
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raa792A charger?20:18
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Venemoactually, idle power consumption is quite okay for me (most of the time)20:20
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VenemoLOL @ this http://www.jollausers.com/2014/02/image-what-is-jolla-trying-to-tell-us/20:59
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FireFlyHaha21:03
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ggabrieli knew it was an ibm kbd21:07
M4rtinKoh, model M, nice :)21:07
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JUJames_Venemo: Y U laugh at my post? :D21:07
ggabrielu cant type without the clack man21:07
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ggabrielthe ancient kbd remark is funny21:08
JUJames_ikr :D well as it turned out it's a Commodore21:08
ggabrielsource?21:09
VenemoJUJames_: my favourite is your remark about the keyboard21:09
ggabrielwhere is the run stop key?21:09
JUJames_if you manage to find a high res version of that pic (hint: JollaHQ twitter post) and you zoom in you can see the Commodore under the num/caps/scroll lock21:10
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JUJames_my eyes might as well be wrong!!:21:10
Viskarii finf the google letter in the n9 box  intriguing21:10
JUJames_yes there's that google letter too!21:11
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tbrthe photo probably also confirms HalfLife3 if you look closely...21:11
JUJames_LOL21:11
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VenemoJUJames_: some time you should take a look at my desk, I'd be curious about the conclusions you'd draw21:12
JUJames_Venemo: hey sure thing :D I may go too far... like my post :P21:13
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VenemoJUJames_: here's a teaser: https://twitter.com/Venemo/status/41887270518287564821:18
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attahA water glass!!! This guy is going for world domination :)21:19
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Venemoattah: not only a water glass, a big mug! with fruit pics on it!!!!!21:20
attahThat's some kinky shit right there.. but hey.. whatever floats your goat.21:21
Venemoattah: hm?21:21
kimmoliso where comparing desks here?21:22
attahFruits on a mug..21:23
Venemoattah: to my defence, it was the only big mug at the shop21:23
Venemobtw, I just noticed that actually all of my important gadgets are on the pic21:23
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attah:)21:25
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attahMy desk is too disorganized to show :( partly because i'm lazy and partly because I'm building a cnc machine on the other half of it..21:27
kimmoliattah: want to see the CNC thing...21:28
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kimmoliwe are building one with my bro too... but it takes whole room21:28
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Stskeepsmy desk contains the future of sailfishos21:30
Stskeeps:P21:30
Jopehehheh21:30
Stskeepssekret21:30
JopeI'm enjoying your conspiracy theories regarding my desk immensely :-D21:30
attahWe are :)21:31
StskeepsJope: next up: people claiming you're lying when you say it's your desk21:31
Stskeeps:P21:31
JUJames_Venemo: that's a good one. I'll make a special post about it :P21:31
JopeStskeeps: hehe yep, they'll just have to take my word for it :-D21:31
AL13NStskeeps: hmm, the future of sailfishos? i'm curious21:31
attahKimmoli: cool project.. mine is more moderate.. pic coming21:31
Jopethen again stezz confirmed it on twitter too so I can safely come out of the closet21:31
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Quueveryone comes out of closet nowdays21:32
Quuits so mainstream even hipsters became straight21:32
Jopehehe21:32
Jopestraight is the new queer? :-D21:33
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attahkimmoli: http://imgur.com/nP7ykGV21:34
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kimmolilooks similar...21:35
VenemoStskeeps   :)21:35
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attahwhat tool are you going for..? I'm thinking laser :)21:37
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kimmoliattah: this is my desk, http://avaa.se/UVbfSH and this is one axis from our project http://avaa.se/afcmeg21:38
AL13Nthe quadcopter TOH!!!!21:38
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AL13Nkimmoli: tell me you have it!21:39
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raa79=)21:39
kimmolilmao21:39
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AL13Nkimmoli: don't lie to me, i've seen the pics21:40
attahkimmoli: cool! looks sturdy enough for a really high-power mill21:40
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attahnow i just need to convince someone to 3d-print some brackets for me so i can put the last pieces together21:46
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attahCNC-TOH?21:52
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kimmolii would like to have (make) post-it label printer toh...21:53
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attahso you also do scrum at work? :P21:54
kimmoliyou place phone on top of something, and it prints something on postit label and attachs it to what it is on top of...21:55
kimmoli:)21:55
attahkimmoli: related: http://littleprinter.com/#!prettyPhoto21:58
Jopehttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nicholasclewis/inkshield-an-open-source-inkjet-shield-for-arduino21:58
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Jopehttp://spritesmods.com/?art=inker21:59
attah^nice22:01
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kehnoonot nice, he ruins pint of guinness :(22:02
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attahbut i'm keeping my $$ for a NFC powered eink display.. would be great for recipes for the kitchen22:03
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Tiffany18 Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos6922:03
attahthat's no printer22:04
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Yanielumm Stskeeps I don't think you can take a female name dictionary and programmatically ban all entries?22:05
Yanielno, it is a lame redirect (joke's on whoever, curl does not follow those by default)22:05
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kimmoliattah: i think i have some progress on eink toh during Devaamo JHD on sat. at least i will bring all the relevan stuff with me there22:08
Yanieloh right, that was this weekend too -.-22:08
attahNice :) Problem is.. I'm in sweden..22:09
kimmolibut you will see atleast pics of it :)22:09
attah:)22:09
* Yaniel pondering wether to cancel plans for hackday or $plans22:10
attah(i was thinking separate from the Jolla, although that would also deal with the same problem)22:11
attahg'night guys!22:15
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chem|stso I jsut merged my 400 contacts and found out that not the move N9 > jolla did mess things up but the move to the N9 from N900... duplicate entries... (not contacts but like phonenumbers three times with different types)22:34
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chem|stempty fields from agregate services like facebook or jabber do still kill the view22:35
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artemmaSpotify inspired unlike app store: Pay $5 a month, get all apps you can eat, payment "fairly" distributed to the authors of apps you used - https://together.jolla.com/question/29216/unlike-app-store-payments-all-you-can-eat-with-developer-income-depending-on-popularity/23:37
artemmawhat do you think?23:37
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Yanielrequires more user tracking than many are willing to accept I'm afraid23:39
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artemmatrue, yet if major app vendors come to Jolla (and Jolla hopes for it certainly), you'll get lots of tracking anyway23:40
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