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coderusmooooornig04:00
virtualdGOD MORGON GOD MORGON04:00
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tbrgood moaning04:31
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Kiranosi feel its time to start hammering about when next release will be made available :)07:34
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pp_soon (tm)07:37
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Kiranosif you look at openrepoes and how many apps they have, what is the reason its not in the official repo? I would really like emoji keyboard in the official store07:43
Kiranoshttps://openrepos.net/content/penguin/emoji-keyboard07:43
arkkipii5kaoke thanks, Q2 is now :)07:43
AcceQ2 is now, and will continue for few months ;)07:46
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arkkipii5ka:)07:53
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TemeVKiranos: I think most apps that are not in store would not pass Jolla's QA08:53
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mornfallso is there a way to tell jolla to dial *55 instead of 0 for the leading +? :-)09:09
Stskeepshmm :)09:09
Stskeepswell, there's the qml of the dialer..09:09
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mornfallthat won't work for contacts, will it?09:12
mornfall(which is the bit I care about...)09:12
faenilif(startswith +) replacewith*55 ? :D09:13
mornfallI also don't see a way to copy out a number from the contact and edit it when dialing...09:14
mornfallHmm.09:14
mornfall(apparently, my operator patches the phones they sell to do this, and the charge for calls through *55 is less than a half of the normal, because they are IP-routed...)09:14
mornfalland since we don't have SIP, this would be some sort of an alternative I guess...09:15
dunphttp://www.cartoonbrew.com/ideas-commentary/sony-demands-removal-of-open-source-indie-short-sintel-from-youtube-98182.html09:15
mornfalldunp: yep, seen on slashdot already ;-)09:16
mornfallthis is not the first time something like that happened09:17
mornfallbut the more this happens and more publicity those incidents get, the more likely the opposition to stupid laws will grow09:17
mornfallso let them screw up some more09:18
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Yanielman I love smpc10:38
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clauwhen a reset is done, is the phone supposed to reboot, or shutdown? mine is just plain dead currently, and I'm not sure if I should try to boot it.11:29
clauwell, I turned it on... let's see what happens :)11:30
* tbr uses "dsmetool -b" or such to reliably reboot his phone11:31
clauit was definitely off.11:33
clauI got my second Jolla, for my wife, and I noticed that with the same version, there are some minor differences.11:34
claufor instance, on hers, there's an fade effect for the vkb, which I don't have on my old one.11:35
Stskeepsshould not be..11:36
claualso, Terminal's cursor behavior is bad on mine, while on hers it's perfectly fine.11:36
clauon mine after I type a bit, it just moves to the right a bit, it's not quite on the last character11:36
claumy guess is that some configs are slightly different11:37
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flanagnow it's official: "MMS is coming in update 5"11:48
flanaganswered 2014-04-06 14:21:42 +0300 slava11:48
flanaghttps://together.jolla.com/question/34318/workaround-for-viewing-mms-messages/11:48
Pnuuyay!11:50
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clauStskeeps, I noticed that during update you are now going from 1.0.2.5 straight to 1.0.4.20, which is nice :)11:53
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clauis anyone still using MMS?11:54
tbrdepending on country and demography11:55
flanagI'm not using it but it still nice to have it for the people that need it11:55
claudefinitely11:55
flanag*it is11:55
claubut I'm a tad surprised, since it costs money, and there are alternatives to it.11:56
tbrJolla is selling through operators, they have requirements, you do the maths. (No I don't know if this was the case here, but it's a publicly known thing in general about the industry)11:57
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tbrthe most weird stuff comes in through operators11:58
clauheh11:58
Jopesometimes it's some really obscure part of the gsm spec that they rely on11:58
tbrobscure corners of the spec are sometimes a lot of fun to explore11:59
tbrsaid the guy currently reading some obscure spec for XML based "web" browsers on Cisco IP phones12:01
clau:D12:01
tbrthey send images as HEX encoded strings representing 2bit maps, inside the XML12:02
clausounds like fun, indeed.12:04
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claudarn... aptoide is now in czech. any idea how I can change this?12:14
Waitee: D12:14
claujesus... all android apps are now in czech.12:15
Waitee:---------D12:15
Waiteesorry12:15
Acceczech.. it must be a sign!12:17
Acceget a czech beer right now12:17
clau:))12:17
flanagclau: I think I've seen this before, just change your Sailfish language to something else from the current one and then change it back to the one you want12:17
clauok, trying it...12:17
clauI think it happened because I've set the time to automatic, and it udpated timezone to CZ too (I'm in CZ after all)12:18
mornfallclau: welcome ;-)12:19
gabriel9is there web ui for jolla store?12:19
gabriel9aplications12:19
claumornfall, thanks :)12:19
gabriel9if i want to give someone a link to install app12:19
mornfallwhat do you do in here? :-)12:19
clauI moved here, about 1.5 years ago12:20
mornfalloh :-)12:20
mornfallPrague or Brno?12:21
clauflanag, \o/ --> it worked. thanks12:21
claumornfall, Prague.12:21
flanagclau: no problem :)12:21
mornfallclau: interesting :) do you work in IT? seems that CZ is becoming sort of a major IT power in Europe :-)12:24
clauIT. and yes, it's quite a large hub.12:25
mornfalluntil recently, the migration for high tech jobs was exclusively in the opposite direction... (people moving abroad from CZ)12:27
mornfall(well, good for me, the market in IT jobs sees some very healthy competition :-)12:27
clau:)12:28
clauare you in Prague or Brno?12:29
mornfallBrno (well, near Brno anyway)12:29
mornfallI wish the government would stop being so stubborn about not adopting Euro though...12:30
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clauodd. I get this feature-xt9 update again.12:46
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claurestoring a backup did not restore my messages :|12:51
clauis there something I can do about it?12:51
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claumessaging and phone were red12:52
clauwell, my media is missing too :(12:52
clauand accounts12:53
clausomething is definitely not ok12:53
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clauok, I rsync'ed the backup back to the phone and it is fine now. first I used mc to copy over sftp.12:59
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clauthe accounts were restored, however I can't use email app, neither jabber messaging.13:09
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ballockanybody knows which btrfs version is used on Jollas?19:06
ballockis it the pristine version from bsp kernel?19:07
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faenilballock, it has lots of patches backported from newer kernels afaik19:10
faenilotherwise it would be much less reliable :)19:10
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ballockthat was exactly my thought19:12
ballockso which kernel/btrfs version was considered reliable enough?19:13
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faenilballock, mm https://github.com/KonstaT/sailfishos_kernel_jolla_msm8930/commits/master/fs/btrfs19:14
faenilthough that kernel is from january19:15
faenilAard sure can say more19:15
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pahartiktbr: Now I notice that "aiccu" was accepted to "sailfishos:chum:1.0.4.20:testing"21:01
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kaikun97hi22:07
kaikun97htheb here?22:07
Yanielnick autocompletion says no, not right now22:10
kaikun97!seen htheb22:13
Merbotkaikun97: htheb was last seen in #jollamobile 2 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 9 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <HtheB> o/22:13
kaikun972 weeks?22:13
kaikun97:/22:13
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