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HtheBdoes someone know how to deactivate word prediction?02:58
HtheBas far as i remember i had to remove some t9 package02:59
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phlixiHi,07:00
phlixidoes this: https://github.com/nemomobile/buteo-sync-plugin-carddav/pull/607:00
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phlixi...mean, that in the next update, u11, Jolla will support CardDAV sync via Owncloud?07:00
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tbrStskeeps: looks like the Jolla tablet might gain high quality, high resolution, low power WebM (VP8) decoding.07:06
tbrStskeeps: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgxMjY07:06
* Stskeeps looks07:06
Stskeepsmakes me wonder what the existing blob contains07:07
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tbrsupposedly the code is quite clean and small too07:08
tbrnot the usual ifdef and other things desaster where PVR is involved07:08
japa-fi"LGTM" ?07:10
Stskeepsi see VP8 support at least07:10
tbrjapa-fi: Looks good to me07:12
japa-fiah...07:12
tbrStskeeps: yes, that seems to be the diff to the VA-API07:12
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Yanielhmm07:22
Yaniellast night my jolla suddenly shut down07:22
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Yanielafter rebooting it said 46% battery and a couple of minutes 0% and shut down again07:22
Yanielafter rebooting it said again 47%07:23
tbrtime for contact cleaning?07:23
FireFlyReminds me of the loose battery issue07:23
tbrwere you on 2G at the time?07:23
Yaniel4g07:24
YanielI already have the paper piece fix07:24
Yanielbut contact cleaning might help yeah07:25
SQUelcherI've noticed the Jolla has a quite bad reception in my house, mostly none at all, while the E90 still works fine...07:25
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Yanielalso after recharging and booting it now uses significantly less memory than before07:25
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tbrSQUelcher: hmm, nokia had superior antenna design in house, but that much better is surprising07:26
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SQUelchertbr: probably it's just vodafone's crappy network again :/07:32
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FireFlyI had a reboot recently as well, although it was pretty cold outside and I used 3G and GPS, so I guess that's why07:34
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Armadillois there any chance for VoLTE for my Jolla??08:33
ArmadilloI've read it currently doesn't work, but the chipset should handle it08:34
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chem|stArmadillo: if there is hardware there could be software... but I doubt any time soon08:42
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Armadillomid of this year would be enough :)08:42
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Armadilloanyone who's interested in VoLTE, should vote for answer 4: https://together.jolla.com/question/27207/wiki-which-features-do-you-want-to-see-done-next/ :)08:43
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SK_workArmadillo: isn't VoLTE something HW ?08:54
SK_worknot sure08:54
Armadilloas I've read it should be something in the firmware08:54
Armadillonot stating in which one08:54
Stskeepsi would kind of expect it to be handled by modem08:54
Armadillohttps://together.jolla.com/question/54949/does-the-jolla-phone-support-voice-over-lte-volte/08:55
Armadillosee the answer of chemist08:55
SK_workhum08:55
SK_workI guess qualcomm won't provide Jolla a driver08:55
pphmn, isn't is pretty much sip over ipv6 or whatnot?08:55
SK_workas they probably won't care about supporting "old" chips08:56
Armadilloprovide in the meaning of give it away or first create one?08:57
ppI've heard of (but not seen personally) android phones letting you see that traffic with tcpdump so I guess it could be visible to the host08:59
Armadillopp as LTE is IP only, you should be right08:59
ppprobably requires having the chip in a certain mode08:59
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Nicd-hmm09:46
Nicd-Maps is gone from my "My Apps" again09:46
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tbrArmadillo: AFAIU there won't be VoLTE for the Jolla phone, ever. Mostly as either the chip doesn't support it or it would need a major upgrade by QC and that would need to be paid for and integrated.09:57
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tbrpp: I have never looked at details, but probably they will be handling the voice related parts directly in the baseband to reduce audio latency. So it might be some sort of IP offloading or a separate IP stack.09:59
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Armadillotbr :(10:01
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cvp_\o/11:15
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cvp_coderus, the ICQ Plugin not work anymore with the new Updates :( - its not possible to setup a account and there no showing the ICQ Logo. Hope you find a little bit time to fix it *fingercross* :)11:19
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coderuscvp_: i'm still not at home11:28
coderuswill return about 13 jan11:28
coderusbut did you tried to reinstall it? :)11:28
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cvp_coderus, i do a factory reset and install it.. ;)11:29
ursIf I get a "problem with connection" message when attempting to connect to a WLAN... is there any way to see the details of what fails?11:32
urs(I'm trying to setup eduroam using the approach here: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1399878&postcount=10 )11:32
coderusurs: probably in journalctl11:32
ursah, yes, that seems to help11:34
urs"received Deauth frame" probably means that some of my authentication details aren't quite right yet11:34
ursThe example talks about EAP=peap and Phase2=MSCHAPV2, but in the wpa_supplicant.conf on all my other systems, I have EAP=TTLS and Phase2=PAP... should I change that?11:37
urs(I'm not sure about the internals of 802.1x... ist that a property of the corresponding authentication server?)11:38
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tbrurs: It might help to test that on a laptop first? with just wpa-supplicant11:46
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Stskeepshttps://blog.jolla.com/crowdsourcing-producing-something-love/11:49
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tbrStskeeps: a rather bold statement to make, I hope you have the man power reserved to trawl TJC and groom it.11:52
Stskeepstbr: from what i grok, that's part of it11:52
tbr*nod* nice to hear11:52
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tbrthe community does a lot of self organization there, but inevitably there needs to be significant effort from jolla. TANSTAFL11:53
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sebsebsebhmm11:55
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sebsebsebI am not sure I messed my Jolla phone up, or it needs more charging11:55
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Nicd-what did you do to it? what is it doing?11:56
sebsebsebinstalled some apps from the Jolla store well tried to, in the shipped version, none of those seemed to work.  Androi apps id when I put on before11:56
sebsebsebthen turned off11:57
sebsebsebthing is11:57
sebsebsebbefore when it wasn't that charged even it wouldl oad up the OS, and it's been plugged in via USB cable I think11:57
sebsebseb,but now I ge11:57
sebsebsebt11:57
sebsebseba pictur of a plug on  the top or something and a kin of z  sahpe in the middle which means power I guess11:57
Nicd-it means it's turned off but charging11:58
sebsebseb,but it's bee plugged in already.  a  little purple light at bttom11:58
sebsebsebNicd-: ok what's what I thought11:58
sebsebseb,but11:58
sebsebsebit had been plugged in via USB already I think11:58
Nicd-yes?11:58
sebsebseband even at 1% 2% or so i could stil turn on the OS before.11:58
sebsebseb,but now no11:58
Nicd-I wouldn't suggest turning it on at 1 or 2 %11:59
sebsebsebjust did jolla logo, and black screen when I tried11:59
sebsebsebwhy not?  file system?11:59
Nicd-because, at least from a user's point of view, it stops charging when it boots and needs to boot up to a certain point to start charging again11:59
sebsebsebit should be charged up quite a bit now or so I thought12:00
sebsebsebNicd-: ohok12:00
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Nicd-also sometimes for me when it's turned off and charging it doesn't start right away when I long press the power button12:01
Nicd-so I just kind of keep pressing it with varying durations until it boots :D dunno the real procedure12:01
sebsebsebyep  bingo power button on for quite a while12:01
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sebsebsebI guess it's just chargin yeah12:01
coderusand please remember phone is not laptop, it still using battery power when chargin, it's not powered from changer directly.12:01
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urstbr: yep, it works fine with my notebook. I guess it's just the CA certificate file missing now.12:08
urs(but since I forgot to pack a microUSB-Cable, I can only get it onto the phone this evening.)12:09
tbrurs: ok, that goes somewhere into etc and then you run a script to have it hashed12:09
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tbryou could use BT to transfer it :)12:10
ursmmmh... riight. :)12:10
japa-fiwith my n900 I once managed to drain the battery to a point that I could not start the phone though it was on USB connection. Thought my phone had died on itself12:10
japa-fithen at some point later when I tried, it booted up12:10
japa-fiThe boot process takes more power than just being on idle. after all, the OS and everything needs to be loaded etc etc. lots of activity at boot time.12:11
tbrjapa-fi: deep discharge handling is a very tricky thing to implement and even then very hard to understand from a user perspective.12:12
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tbras general guidance (not jolla specific): use a power supply and a good cable; make sure the device went through a hard reset of the PMIC (e.g. by pulling the battery before attaching it); be _very_ patient12:14
urstbr: yay, it works12:14
tbrurs: congo-rats12:14
tbrsome PMICs might take an hour or more to bring the battery to a "safe to boot" state12:14
ursthe best kind of rats12:14
japa-fitbr that particular user experience wasn't intentional. I was using my N900 as wifi hotspot and it used more electricity than the 500mA ot could draw from the laptop USB. Eventually drained the battery (which was in bad shape anyway).12:14
tbrjapa-fi: that's called a negative power budget and should have been handled too, but yes it tends to be harder to catch for reasons (physics are a bitch)12:15
japa-fiI have had other electronic device to brick themselves because the low voltage shutoff had failed. the Li-ion discharged too low state to ever be able to charge again12:15
japa-fior at least to be able to charge just by putting it to charger..12:16
tbrone last thing: while charge current can be up to 1A (1000mA) on such a battery, the emergency charge in a deep discharge situation is usually 50mA or _lower_12:16
tbrso it takes _very_ long to reach a minimal power level that will allow it to survive the boot sequence (because charging usually only gets started once the device is fully booted, there is a dead zone in between)12:17
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japa-fitbr I think I had the dead zone problem at that point. The old battery optimistically reported too much charge, based on which the OS accepted my request to boot up (power button). While during the bootup sequence, no charging and actually not much juice in battery -> FAIL.12:19
tbryes12:21
tbrthe charge check is usually a simple voltage check12:22
tbras there is no operating system at this point12:22
tbrit's called EMERGENCY charging for a reason12:22
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japa-fiold batteries are bitch anyway, they are not linear with their voltage reporting. I thought there was issue with hibernation as it never completed on my laptop. Investigated with one of the devs and found out battery reporting "power available 5mins" for some 20 minutes until suddenly in next status (polled like every 5-10secs) it reported <0.1% - <5secs left.12:27
japa-fiYeah, the hibernation was not able to complete in 5 secs...12:28
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Toxiphello12:37
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Toxipany news on the paid apps front?12:48
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faenildoes anyone know what happens if I send my Jolla in for repair because of the reboots?14:02
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kimmolifaenil: factory reset + they'll add some stuff below battery14:09
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kimmolimost propably14:09
faenilkimmoli, srsly :(14:09
faenilmy battery is quite tight already..14:09
kimmoli:)14:10
j-dogefaenil: at least try to clean the battery contacts before sending it in14:10
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faenilI'm still so suspicious it all started the very first morning of the u10 update...14:10
faenilyesterday had a drop from 35 to 4%, and it stayed at 4% battery the whole afternoon, even went through 30mins of phonecalls14:11
faenilit actually discharged this morning...14:11
kimmolii have seen also battery level drops, but got them back after a reboot14:11
faenilyes, I think the battery level gets fixed after reboot14:12
kimmolijust taking battery out and putting it back might help, to get "fresh" contact14:12
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secFunny, the pictures/videos/ambiance app is suddenly showing 0 pics and videos -.-14:29
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secI tried refreshing media database through the Sailfish Utilities14:29
secAnd restarting14:29
secIt was showing pictures earlier, but not indexing any new ones14:31
secI think clearing the database made it show 0 now14:31
secSo the tracker daemon is bugging out?14:31
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secNvm, tracker-control -se worked14:32
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Tofehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxcgmfaunD816:51
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Stskeepshttps://blog.jolla.com/hacknplay-20150109/18:11
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attahStskeeps: Nice!18:42
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ced117Can someone confirm, that the reason that sailfish os is still using kernel 3.4 is only because of these proprietary android drivers ?21:15
ced117Stskeeps, maybe ?21:15
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r0kk3rzced117: basically yes21:38
r0kk3rzthere are other things as well, but that's one of the reasons21:39
ced117i'm sure that's not the only reason, anyway, thank you r0kk3rz :-)21:40
r0kk3rzafaik anyway21:40
r0kk3rzbut stskeeps is the man to ask21:40
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sebsebsebhi21:44
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sebsebsebso uhmm21:44
sebsebsebwell21:44
sebsebsebit lasted about three or four days21:45
sebsebseband now problems with my Jolla phone21:45
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r0kk3rzsebsebseb: what problems?21:50
sebsebsebok so21:51
sebsebsebthe shipped version that came with working great orking workkng great working great, working great, uhmm put a load o Adorid apps on  to try aptoside out and yeah21:51
sebsebsebtried camera  out etc etc21:52
sebsebseb,but then today21:52
sebsebsebI thought well I should put some more actsual native salifish OS apps on really to try that21:52
sebsebseband none of those would work it seems for a start, bu hten I powered it off or whatever, and  then well21:52
Yanielguess why they didn't work21:52
sebsebsebI thought it may have just been a needing to get charged up again issue for some reason,  but nope  plugged in for hours,   I turn it on and just get the Jolla log o now21:52
sebsebsebnow it turns itself off21:53
sebsebsebYaniel: since they are made for a later version of the OS21:53
sebsebsebthe OS doesn't load up now21:53
Yanielexactly21:53
sebsebsebit just  does the logo and that's it21:53
Yanielthey are built for Qt5.221:53
Yanieltime to try recovery mode21:53
sebsebsebok that explaisn about the apps, but what about my other issue?21:53
r0kk3rzsebsebseb: sounds like recovery time21:53
sebsebsebrecveyr mode how.,   I just get the logo and that's it21:53
sebsebsebthen it just goes black on the screen21:53
r0kk3rzand make sure you update to vaaranjarvi21:53
Yanielpower on while holding volume down iirc21:54
sebsebsebwell I had planned to mess around with the shipped version first, and thn do a factory restore, and an upgrade21:54
Yanielall while plugged in to a pc with ssh or telnet21:54
Yanielnot sure which one it was21:54
r0kk3rzshipped version is probably ancient21:54
sebsebsebwhat about stuff on the sim card21:54
sebsebsebcan I Recover any of that first?21:54
TemeVsebsebseb: the shipped version is really bad, you don't want to do anything with that21:54
sebsebsebr0kk3rz: yes people here said it sucked21:54
Yanielwe did tell you often enough to upgrade immediately21:54
sebsebsebTemeV: yes so people haeve said  here a few times already, but the plan was to mess around with it a bit,  do a factory restore,  and an upgrade  and  so on from there21:55
YanielI'd say you deserve this trip to recovery mode21:55
sebsebsebYaniel: heh heh21:55
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sebsebsebthat's ok if recovery mode works etc :)21:55
sebsebsebfixes stuff21:55
r0kk3rztbh its pretty bad that the shipped version is as broken as it is21:55
sebsebsebmaybe they should chang that then ship a newer one21:55
r0kk3rzalways get people coming in here saying they cant update from recovery because the store is broken21:56
Yanielhttps://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202208763 there we go21:56
sebsebsebof course the tabblet will get a newer veriso, but this  is about the phone21:56
TemeVr0kk3rz: I guess re-flasing all those phones would be non trivial task21:56
r0kk3rzTemeV: agreed21:56
r0kk3rzits one of those things that im sure Jolla doesnt like, but has no choice about21:56
sebsebsebwhat abut  stuff on the card21:56
sebsebsebI don't have muchc21:56
sebsebseb,but any chance of getting hold of those few photos and  videos?21:56
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sebsebsebaltough if I lost that stuff it's not that importnat really i twas just messing around iwth camera stuff realy21:57
Yanielif you mean the microSD no worries21:57
r0kk3rzyou should be able to take the card out21:57
Yanielif you want to be perfectly sure jsut take the card out21:57
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sebsebsebno no I don't have a microSD,  in fact it's not on a network yet since I need the correct sim21:58
sebsebsebso wherever stuff is put otherwise21:58
sebsebsebthen21:58
Yanielyou are confusing SIM and SD21:58
YanielSIM is the one you get from your operator21:58
YanielSD is a memory card21:58
r0kk3rzcard, photos and videos? if you have photos and videos on a SIM card i will be impressed :)21:59
TemeVthere is shell in recovery mode so you can move the stuff to sd-card21:59
sebsebsebwhat about the next upgrade verison which I think isn'tlatest either.  ok to do something with? :d22:00
sebsebsebor just for a look around?22:00
sebsebsebbefore upgrading to the latest22:00
Yanieldon't bother22:00
Yanielbut yes it is a lot better already22:00
r0kk3rzsebsebseb: why you want to live in the past?22:00
TemeVthere is basically nothing in the old versions that isn't in the new ones22:00
Yanielthere is22:00
sebsebsebr0kk3rz: I don't22:00
Yanielold Qt22:01
sebsebsebr0kk3rz: I just haen't used selifhS untill MONDAY that's all22:01
sebsebsebso all I hae used so far is the shipped version22:01
TemeVYaniel: I mean something you can see from the ui22:01
Yanielshould've just upgraded to the latest22:01
r0kk3rzthats fine, just make sure you get on the latest version first22:01
sebsebsebwhen I use it properly etc, start to. I'll be running latest version :)22:01
TemeVand new qt has everything the old one has, right?22:01
r0kk3rzthen it'll be smooth sailing22:01
Yanielespecially considering that even the latest one is still not really what I'd call a "stable" release22:01
* sebsebseb hold on back in a bit or I think22:02
sebsebseblet's see if I can actsully watch the news here on that TV without issues22:02
r0kk3rzYaniel: its pretty good :P22:02
sebsebsebsince other people ehre22:02
sebsebseba certia other one22:02
sebsebsebFrench thing yeah22:02
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r0kk3rzconnmann is a lot better22:02
sebsebsebwhat's conman22:02
r0kk3rznot perfect, but not the horrible beast we have in tahkalampi22:02
* sebsebseb back in about half an hour hopefully22:02
YanielCONNection MANager22:02
Yanielhrr dem memories22:03
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sebsebsebok back22:44
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sebsebsebhmm23:09
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sebsebsebwhere aer the Linux insturctiosn for recovery mode?23:09
* sebsebseb don't want to do it in WINDOWS or try to23:09
TemeVlink is right there23:13
TemeVhttps://together.jolla.com/question/22079/howto-all-computer-users-recover-or-reset-a-device-that-is-stuck-in-boot-loop/23:13
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Jonnisebsebseb: well basicly they are the same as windows, in linux you can just skip the rndis driver install as usbnet works without need for install drivers. Or have a look at TemeV's link.23:13
Yanielsame as in windows, just use telnet from the terminal23:13
Yanielaand remember to take the usbnet interface UP after connecting the cable23:14
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