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druberlinthanks kimmoli , will take a look02:26
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ShadowJKHm, it spent 7 minutes burning RAM, then freed almost all of it and site is scrollable and viewable. win03:02
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salyavinhmm no downloaded email attachment cleanup it seems.06:29
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ursHas anyone got any pointers for me how to get the jolla to do calDAV sync with Horde?10:01
ursThere are a number of people asking these things in stupid webforums, but as usual for webforums, the answer is typically "Nevermind, I got it to work" without providing any hint *how* they did it.10:02
tbrthat's 1337 ph0rumz for ya10:02
ursAlso, dear jolla people, "Could not create account" is a completely useless error message.10:03
ursAh, adding a "https://" in front of the server address was obviously all that was missing for me.10:04
tbrnow either blog about it or put it on tjc, so the next person can find it. (although irc logs are probably indexed too)10:05
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ursOk, dear everybody: If you want jolla to sync via calDAV with horde, log into horde, go to your calender, click the "Edit" icon and go to the "subsecription" tab. That'll provide with a CalDAV account URL.10:07
ursSplit that into host and path, and feed it into your device, not forgetting https. then you're good. :)10:08
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SQUelcherurs: you could just use the exchange plugin and forget about caldav :P10:11
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urs"oh".10:12
ursBut where do I add exchange accounts to the phone?10:13
tbryou install the plugin from store first10:14
ursah, ok.10:15
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T-DahgHi! I'm having an issue regarding the vibrator mode of my Jolla.11:17
T-DahgIt doesn't vibrate most of the time11:18
T-DahgWhen I run the vibration test, I need to give it a good shake and then it works.11:19
Sail0rDid you run the vibrator tests?11:19
Sail0rHad the same problem and did send it to care11:19
Sail0rthat's what you have to do. Contact care and get a new motor11:20
T-DahgOh k :/ have you got a clue how long i'm gonna have to miss my Jolla if I send it in?11:20
Sail0rMine was back after 4 days11:20
Sail0rI am from Germany11:20
T-DahgThat's not too bad :p11:21
Sail0rnope that's very good11:21
T-DahgI'll do that then, thx a lot!11:21
Sail0rno problem :)11:21
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Yanielhmm unable to get label Inappropriate ioctl for device11:46
Yanielsays btrfs fi show on my µSD11:46
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Yanielah right it shows it anyway it seems11:47
Yanieljust doesn't have a label set11:48
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attahthe facepalm generated by support for gTLDs when you try to google a 3gpp spec in the address bar...18:00
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Stskeepsattah: there's a 3gpp gtld?18:25
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attahStskeeps: no.. but it interprets 36.331 as a url as opposed to pre-gTLD browsers18:26
Stskeepsah..18:26
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attahStskeeps: how are things in the skunkworks department?18:27
Stskeepsslow; mostly focused on tablet atm18:28
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attahthat's not very fun.. but i guess it's pretty satisfying to see it coming to life18:29
Stskeepswell, i have .. skills, in the hw adaptation department and when you spend a lot of time thinking, you need to keep your knives sharp or you're just another useless architect18:30
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attahah.. and those projects are down-prioritized because of the importance of the tablet?18:32
Stskeepsprobably a bit of self-prioritisation18:32
Stskeepswe all roll our sleeves up when things need doing18:32
attahyeah.. i recognize that..18:33
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Stskeepsbut i'm like the most lousy engineer around for product programs18:33
Stskeeps:P18:33
attahand sometimes you need someone stepping in and ordering you to take a break or attend a course etc..18:33
attahhow do you mean? no testing? ^^18:33
Stskeepsnah, just slow and unorganised at times; i however do interesting things and know stuff18:36
Stskeeps:P18:36
r0kk3rzin most companies the things that get you paid are usually prioritised over pie-in-the-sky ideas18:36
r0kk3rzeven in companies doing crazy things like google18:37
Stskeepsthere's a whole field of theory around that18:37
Stskeeps:P18:37
Stskeepshttp://www.amazon.com/The-Innovators-Dilemma-Revolutionary-Business/dp/006206024418:37
Stskeepsetc18:37
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Stskeepsmoo shmerl18:38
r0kk3rzagreed there is a balance to be struck, and most companies get that balance wrong18:38
shmerlStskeeps: Hi!18:38
Stskeepsgoogle doesn't do their 10% anymore, do they?18:38
r0kk3rz10% time, probably not18:38
attahwasn't it 20%?18:38
leinir20%, and no18:38
zuttosadly they dont :(18:38
attah^that18:38
r0kk3rzas they never really got that much out of it18:38
r0kk3rzaside from google maps18:39
leinirand mail18:39
shmerlStskeeps: I saw something that you wrote that you need volunteers help with testing Mesa/KMS adaptations. What exactly do you need help with there?18:39
leinirand every other bloody product they've produced that wasn't android because they just bought that18:39
attahand they somehow managed to magically quantify all the learning that took place during this time?18:39
Stskeepsshmerl: well, not testing, creating18:39
r0kk3rzdid gmail come out of 20% time as well? didnt know that18:39
Stskeepsshmerl: packaging, in practice18:39
Stskeepsi don't want to do the grunt work lifting; i can help test18:39
shmerlAh, I see. Is it doable without actual hardware? If there is some guide how to do it, I can experiment with it.18:40
zuttothey did alot of intresting stuff with the 20%18:40
zuttolike google wave18:40
Stskeepsshmerl: sure18:40
zuttotoo bad it never caught the attention of people :(18:40
Stskeepsshmerl: it's a i945 practically, able to use mesa i91518:40
Stskeepsat least that's what i think it said18:41
shmerlIs it all in the upstream kernels, or it's split in per hardware configuration?18:41
Stskeepsshould be upstream18:41
shmerlDo you know what other components for sure have no regular drivers?18:42
shmerlI.e. camera, wifi etc.18:42
shmerlOr it needs research?18:42
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Stskeepswifi is fine18:43
Stskeepscamera may possibly work with v4l2 but no clue18:43
shmerlThat's good18:43
shmerlIs this a good starting point?18:43
shmerlhttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide18:43
Stskeepswell, basically somebody needs to build mesa/libdrm/etc that's fairly up to date18:44
shmerlOr rather this one?18:44
shmerlhttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step18:44
shmerlYeah, I'm just trying to figure out if there is any documentation on the process that's usable18:45
Stskeepsnah; more of 'build this in obs'18:45
shmerlI.e. just configure the kernel and package that in OBS?18:46
Stskeepsnah, kernel is not that interesting; kernel will work fine with whatever; mesa/libdrm/libva/etc wont18:46
shmerlNever really worked with them. They are built as separate projects?18:47
shmerlThen may be just list more or less precisely what needs to be packaged for the adaptation.18:47
shmerlI can start a temporary wiki to collect the info18:47
shmerlIs this usable?18:49
shmerlhttps://github.com/saukko/mer-graphics-adaptation/blob/master/mer-graphics-adaptation.yaml18:49
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Stskeepshigher level, packaging18:50
Stskeepsi need to go now though, west wing time18:50
shmerlSure, will catch you later.18:50
shmerlI'll start some page for now.18:50
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shmerlI'll link it from here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations#x8618:51
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shmerlshmerl: /*y2*Limk!;kV-*kNClIR/F9z0E9]A18:53
shmerlThe actual page: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/JollaTablet19:00
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Nc_There - 1 tightly packed Jolla-phone, all ready for the FedEx dude to pick up21:12
Sail0rhehe21:12
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