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jaacoppiI've been trying to install CodeReader from Harbour but keep getting "Problem with installing". Another app installed fine. Any ideas?06:28
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Yanielwhat is this huge pixelated mouse cursor I keep seeing when swiping out of apps07:14
Yaniel(appears briefly on the app cover)07:15
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ursYaniel: I noticed that too, since the update of yliaavanlampi. But it's incredibly hard to get a screenshot of. :)07:16
tbrwasn't that a known problem?07:16
tbrjust like the black covers07:17
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lainwir3dwhoa :-|08:44
lainwir3dmy jolla shut down :-|08:44
lainwir3dand didn't want to wake up at all08:44
lainwir3duntil I removed the battery08:44
lainwir3dwtf08:44
Nicd-it was so sleepy08:44
lainwir3dgot really scared honestly08:44
lainwir3dyeah, that08:44
lainwir3dbut we got to bed early and it was fine for the past hour08:45
Ponchalehi I'm buying a phone Jolla but would have to be sent to Colombia08:45
lainwir3dI told it him to have breakfast but he didn't listen to me. He must have collapsed :-(08:45
lainwir3dhi08:45
kjetilhoPonchale: have you checked the mobile frequencies match up?08:46
Ponchaleno08:46
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entilyou may want to make sure the phone works as a phone in your country08:47
entilotherwise it's just a small tablet08:47
Nicd-the GSM frequencies match at least08:48
Nicd-850 and 190008:48
Nicd-also LTE 2600 but if it works or not I can't guarantee08:49
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Ponchalei am have BlackBerry z1008:51
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Ponchalesorry hehehe i have blackberry z1008:51
PonchaleIt's a little late here in Colombia and 3:52 a.m.08:52
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entilis anyone working on an uber client for sailfish? https://developer.uber.com/09:24
chem|stentil: you better ask that in the devel channel or on TMO09:24
entilmyeah09:28
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tadzikoh, it'd be nice if there was one, the android app is abysmal09:35
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entiltaxis are ridiculously expensive in finland but I haven't tried uber yet because android ;P09:36
tadzikwell, the app works :)09:36
tadzik(just very badly)09:36
entilI'm concerned about the reports about it leaking data09:36
entilan opensource sailfish app would be somewhat safer09:37
chem|stentil: you care about the app when there are reports of sexual harrassment and even abuse are reported?09:38
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entilwe hear those reports about swedish taxis, got to take a lot of that with a grain of salt09:38
entilthis is not justifying crimes, but I doubt uber is the rape magnet the conservative taxi industry makes it out to be09:39
tadzik. o O ( you care about linux while Reiser killed his wife? )09:39
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ninnnu_tadzik: You don't have to use Reiserfs. Personally, I've never used it, although just because ext4 is just too "easy" :P09:40
chem|sttadzik: I don't care if he killed his wife, the last drone strike hit more people and israel is still bullying palestine...09:40
tbrI think we can consider this topic thoroughly godwin'd09:41
tadziktbr: yay, my job here is done09:41
tadzikninnnu_: I did, in my "let's pick some obscure software to use for a change" phase :)09:41
chem|stentil: the news had lots of concerns by conventional taxi companies and their association, then months nothing about it, all for a sudden more and more reports about uber hit the news09:41
entilI was really into reiser4 when it was a thing09:41
entilchem|st: I suspect a lot of it is smearing and nothing more, at least in finland we have a long history of people trying to break the taxi monopoly where taxi drivers assault drivers who compete against them09:42
entilchem|st: as for the case in india, it's not an uber thing, india is severely screwed when it comes to crimes against women - that is just a convenient scapegoat for the taxi industry to smear over uber09:43
tadzikI'd feel safer driving with a potential rapist when the entire city can track his and mine location in real time, as opposed to driving with some random driver who happened to have a Taxi sign on his car where I happened to look for one09:43
entilbesides, uber has the same incentives as everyone else to keep their drivers legit09:43
chem|stuber is what, google again?09:45
tadzikno, just random startup founders iirc, unrelated to google09:46
chem|stbeing traceable in real time on the internets sounds so like NSA...09:46
joonahoientil: about rs4, i was too. and it actually was pretty awesome in speed with large operations with shitloads of small files09:46
joonahoithough it wasn't too reliable, so storing anything valuable on it was risky09:46
entilthat's no different from trad. taxis.. at least here they are monitored by gps and the central keeps tabs on where they pick people up. you can order one by sms, so they have your contact info (lest you use a prepaid sim) and probably the same applies to taxis you order by phone09:47
tadzikin unrelated news: https://github.com/S0lll0s/themer desktop ambiances, kinda09:47
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tadzikand they remember your real name, those real taxis09:47
tadzikI call them, order a taxi, and they say "Mr. tadzik, right?"09:47
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entilso my only grudge with uber is the allegations that their app pulls more data out of your phone than required by the service :P09:48
tadzikclassic android09:49
fennekkithere's some ethical concerns with uber in general but not with the app itself I guess09:49
entiland to be fair they may never have leaked data (because allegations) and they may have fixed it etc09:50
tadzikI think they're more ethiconomical09:50
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entilethiconomical?09:51
tadzikI made a hybrid of ethical and economical, as I think in this case ethics is used to hide monopoly and greed behind a noble value09:53
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SfietKontantinWspeaking about android and privacy: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ubuntu-touch-privacy-default-alexander-hanff09:56
chem|stIn Germany there are some areas where it is pretty hard to get in as transport service if you do not follow rules of the local taxi association - also taxi business is regulated by laws that also apply to public transport. The main argument here is that they do not follow these regulations and therefor try circumvent the system by trying to "not to be" a taxi09:56
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IkarusI wouldn't want an Amsterdam where uber was the taxi of choice....09:58
chem|stGermany has too many laws... but otoh it is kind of nice to know that your driver had to pass a medical examination qualifing him has driver in public transport (did that myself once)09:59
Ikaruschem|st: medical, a valid taxi meter and a further exam of his driving skills here10:00
Ikarusbut also it limits the number of taxis in cities that barely can handle cars at all10:00
tadziksome of it sounds like what corporate IT thinks about open source10:01
Ikarustadzik: well, except you can get certified FOSS10:01
Ikarusit's why Redhat and such do good buisness10:01
chem|stIkarus: yeah the medical examination includes a multi-tasking reaction time test10:01
tadzikyeah, good thing most of what we use is written by certified FOSS programmers :)10:01
Ikarusalso note that insurance doesn't cover such commercial use as you do when offering services via Uber10:02
Ikarusso you violate both the law (you need insurance) and the contract when you drive for Uber10:02
IkarusWe had a fun discussion on this at uni10:03
tadzikhm, interesting10:03
Nicd-tadzik: using FOSS is usually not a thing that might lead to death or injury ;)10:04
Ikaruscommercial insurance for carrying people not regularly associated with you or your buisness is about 3-5x more expensive10:04
chem|sttadzik: it is more certificates in general...10:04
* Stskeeps spends his sick leave blogging: http://mer-project.blogspot.com/2015/03/some-doubts-about-gpl-licensing-and-bq.html10:05
chem|stNicd-: but commercial licenses forbid such things... I always wanted to build a cruise missle with an iPod... but their terms are so stricked ab0ut it10:05
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fluxstskeeps, hey, it's great if ubuntu and jolla start to compete who has a more open operating system on their devices :P10:08
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Ikarusthe non-cruise missile stuff and such is a weird interpretation of the wassenaar arrangement10:09
Stskeepsflux: none of us are angels but a bit of due dilligence never hurts..10:09
* Ikarus accidentally wrote code that was covered under that arrangement10:10
phdeswernote to Stskeeps : We have not been very good at making the source code available in the past either. And it still is a bit hidden on sailfish.org atm10:10
Stskeepsphdeswer: sure10:10
Stskeepsbut there's a clear source code offer for a very boring dvd10:10
Stskeepsthis isn't about that10:10
phdeswerTrue10:10
Nicd-so what does that blog post actually mean? that the phone is claimed to be GPL but a lot of it is not? or?10:10
Nicd-s/phone/software on the phone/10:10
StskeepsNicd-: as a regular consumer, i cannot legally go and remotely touch the source code of the kernel and related bits, it seems10:11
Stskeepsnot to mention that license headers like that built into kernel is for sure not good10:11
phdeswerOr Canonical is distributing code they cannot legally distribute...10:11
phdeswerTechnically you should go ask Mediatek what they think of it ;)10:12
tadzikhahaah. "Let's try to grep for confidential: <wall of text>"10:12
tadziknice10:13
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phdeswerWell Mediatek... one of the most notorious GPL violators. Same crap company which bit the fairphone in the ass I believe.10:18
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* keesj is going to talk a little about that in about 2 hours at CeBIT 10:45
Stskeepskeesj: giving a talk or?10:46
keesjyea10:46
Stskeepshm, i should really go to cebit again sometime10:46
Stskeepsi exhibited there while on university10:46
keesjthe train ride was nice10:46
Stskeepscebit was last time i tried to use my german and almost ended up at police station because of a misunderstanding between me and a taxi driver..:P10:47
keesjremids me of the maemo days in berlin around LinuxTag10:47
kjetilhoyou had a "fracas" with the driver? ;)10:47
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keesjfor Fairphone we released a building kernel and some userland code10:49
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keesjI mean running!10:50
entiltadzik: had to go afk, but in the uk they've had uber-like companies (said a friend in oxford) without any issues, so I wouldn't be too cynical about the matter... people need transportation10:55
phdeswerkeesj: you seem to have the same problem with fairphone kernel. Full of confidential Mediatek stuff11:03
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tadzikentil: oh, I'm not cynical, I'm quite a fan of Uber11:06
tadzikit's just better service, I'm not using it because it's borderline illegal or just plain cheaper11:06
* Stskeeps just wants self-driving vehicles without drivers who takes me from A to B11:06
tadzikit's just plain better11:06
* phdeswer saw some electrical vehicle rental system in Ulm11:06
phdeswerSimilar to all the bikes in other places. But then with the cargo capacity and staying dry when it rains11:07
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* SpeedEvil imagines the Jolla Car.11:44
SpeedEvilQuick, everyone get everyone to buy a tablet, then maybe!11:44
Stskeepsi saw a car 'powered by mediatek' at mwc11:44
Joonaacan i trade in my android tablet_11:44
Joonaa?*11:44
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ursSpeedEvil: "slide into the drivers seat from the right side to switch the car from 'park' into 'drive'"?11:53
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SpeedEvil:)11:53
ursalso "I'm getting a 4 wheel drive other half for my car."11:53
Stskeepsrocket engine TOH11:54
SpeedEvilurs: the only problem is flipping it over to use the other wheels11:54
urscrazy hippie bus TOH11:54
SpeedEvilWell - and belting in securely enough to drive upside down11:55
chem|stswipe the dashboard to change the ambience?12:07
Stskeepschem|st: that'd actually sell..12:07
chem|stStskeeps: Mini has that ambiente light switch....12:08
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entilthe wunderbaum app lets you change smellz with swiping12:09
chem|stStskeeps: I know alot of stuff that would sell but industries are slow...12:10
chem|stI'd coat everything with CIGS that needs power... including but not limited to cars12:12
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minimecentil: yeah... and the wunderbaum app has that package dependency on wackeldackel.rpm ... ;) http://www.autobild.de/artikel/autozubehoer-spiessige-extras-fuers-auto-1328254.html12:13
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phdeswertbr: before I forget, since weather is decent again, do you still need my help to check out your 6 wheeler?12:18
RavenholmDXJust got offered a contract position in London12:18
StskeepsRavenholmDX: congrats12:19
RavenholmDXcrazy money, but not going to give up a permanent-role for a contract12:19
Stskeepsah, but the joyous moments of being an expensive consultant..:P12:19
Stskeepshelped pay my mortgage nicely12:19
RavenholmDXStskeeps, the money is fantastic, £350 per day12:19
RavenholmDXbut if it was here in Ireland, I'd jump at it12:20
Stskeepsnot bad12:20
Stskeeps:P12:20
RavenholmDXbut moving to another country with no job security12:20
Stskeepsat 350 a day you could live in a quite nice hotel while doing so12:20
RavenholmDXnot my cup of tea unfortunately :P12:20
Stskeeps:P12:20
RavenholmDXlol12:20
RavenholmDXI could, but I'd need to keep my apartment in Dublin then12:21
chem|stRavenholmDX: you are limiting yourself... from dublin to london is a distance that is well within one country compared to others and you do not have a language barrier, at least not like moving to a completely foreign one12:23
entilminimec: aww :)12:24
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RavenholmDXchem|st, I know, I wouldn't make the move for a non-perm role though12:39
RavenholmDXconsidering I'm in a decent paying perm role now12:39
RavenholmDXI had a good 2014 too, so it'll get better12:40
RavenholmDXjust the way the Euro is now12:40
RavenholmDXmaking me reconsider my options12:40
RavenholmDXI can move to the UK and have more purchasing power12:40
RavenholmDXmove back when the Euro gets stronger in a few years12:40
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tbrphdeswer: heh, funny enough, today we started talking about bringing it back from hibernation13:22
phdeswertbr: well ping me if you need some help. I might have some time this weekend13:23
tbrsounds good, I might take you up on that13:23
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servalexHi! Set up new jolla phone yesterday - login in, go through tutorial, update, go through tutorial again. I encounter couple weird thins14:37
servalexthere's bluetouth icon on lock screen although i already turned it off14:38
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servalexis it common issue?14:38
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SfietKontantinWservalex: it is weired14:39
nazaninservalex: turn it on and off again, see if the icon persists to stay on lockscreen14:39
nazaninturn bluetooth on and off that is14:39
servalexnazanin: done that already, doesn't change14:40
toerbhas anyone ordered a jolla phone in the last 10 days?14:40
Joonaaservalex try rebooting :P14:40
servalexdidn't try rebooting yet14:40
nazaninservalex: turn on flight mode and then off before rebooting14:41
servalex:)14:41
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iluminator105is a new jolla phone coming14:41
nazaninso turn bluetooth off, and then turn flight mode on and off and see if the icon on lockscreen disappears14:41
servalexnope, flight mode doesn't help14:42
nazanin*sigh*14:42
servalexok that's not that important, at least to me14:42
nazaninjust reboot then14:42
TemeIkarus: even if it is, i doubt anyone here would tell you ;) but at this time it's not announced14:43
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servalexthere's another thing and i guess it's because i made some simple mistake: enabled developer mode today, but i can't set the root password14:44
Joonaajolla 3 confirmed?14:44
servalexi might launched some app before going through tutorial for the second time, could this be the reason?14:45
Joonaai hope not..14:45
ninnnu_Joonaa: jolla 2 episode 114:46
Joonaaahh darn it14:46
tadzikhttp://i.imgur.com/FhDCBiu.gif14:52
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servalexis it normal that after setting root password in developer mode, going to all settings and back to developer mode section, password field is empty, even without dots?15:36
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chem|stservalex: yes15:42
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wtwany experiences with replacing a faulty speaker? anybody tried this: https://together.jolla.com/question/39900/no-sound-through-speaker/?answer=62574#post-id-62574 ?17:00
wtwmine has died for the third time...17:01
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Pilkewtw: I have :P17:14
Pilkelol it's my post17:15
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PilkeStill works... well I hope if my Jolla recovers from dropping it into pond today17:19
Pilkewtw: Anyway harder side of the task is to find the replacement than replacing itself17:20
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wtwPilke: what about the S720e that's mentioned in the thread? it's available in ebay17:25
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wtw(by HTC)17:26
wtwor rather for an HTC17:27
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Pilkewtw: Yes there is link to the one I use in the comments17:27
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wtwi found this on German ebay, but idk if it's the same http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-HTC-One-X-Desire-S-G12-G14-G18-S720e-Lautsprecher-Hoermuschel-Speaker-Buzzer-/26122626014217:27
wtwhowever, I don't even have a torx screwdriver so the repair will have to wait anyways...17:28
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PilkeAs mentioned in my post I did order two and difference in quality is big17:30
wtwlol, just tried pressing with the force of 1000 suns against the speaker holder area17:31
wtwand it worked, at least temporarily17:31
wtwthanks for your insight, I'll see what I can do17:31
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sledgesanyone up for testing a mini app on jolla1 to help nexus5 camera porters?17:48
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Morpog_PCsure17:48
sledgesMorpog_PC: cool, here's a tl;dr to compile it natively on device: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=803#c217:49
merbotNemo bug 803 in Hybris-ing "[hammerhead] taking photos works only when cameraplus is started while the phone is being charged" [Major,New]17:49
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jarkko_wtf, the camera in my jolla crashed. "camera is not responding. Wait / Close." Had to reboot the phone. After that it deleted all my photos and videos.20:32
Stskeepssure they're actually gone and not just tracker?20:32
jarkko_or at least they don't show up in the gallery, or sweeping left to right in the camera.20:32
Stskeepscheck if they're gone or not20:32
jarkko_Stskeeps: not sure. How do I check that?20:32
Stskeepswell, the terminal is a good start and ls -lR /home/nemo :)20:33
phdeswerjarkko_: command line or file browser20:33
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jarkko_ah, ok, simple enough.20:33
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jarkko_ok the photos are there (phew). What can I do to the tracker? Pointers to instructions welcome, no need to explain it here :)20:34
Stskeepsstart with looking at together.*20:35
tbrphdeswer: woke up the tank, engine seems to run ok. Oil looked ok, but want to refill some. It was behaving a bit weird before the winter. I'm going to give it a short ride tomorrow and if that checks out would come by during the weekend at a convenient time for you. :-)20:36
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phdeswertbr: Sounds ok. Might be out for a while on Saturday or Sunday. Will try to get that scheduled and then we can agree something. I'll put some beers cold also.20:37
phdeswerjarkko_: if you're lucky tracker recovers on reboot. Otherwise there is some tracker-control reset command.20:37
tbrphdeswer: sounds nice, I have no plans, so can accomodate yours20:37
phdeswertbr: ok. Will keep you informed20:38
tbrdidn't that control app have a tracker option too?20:40
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