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birdzhanghave you guys upgraded to 1.1.6 ?03:39
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jaacoppino04:14
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zhxtbirdzhang, 1.1.6 is out?04:38
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birdzhangyes,in terminal04:47
birdzhangssu re 1.1.6.1704:48
birdzhangssu ur04:48
birdzhang version --dup04:48
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zhxtbirdzhang,  thx good to know.04:51
Yanielthat means no, it is not out04:52
zhxtoh, yes, will try to build one.  :)04:55
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zhxtfor n4 :P04:57
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TMavicaU cant SSH in 1.1.6.1706:01
TMavicaBut can solve it urself06:02
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gabriel9https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/19/8624901/russia-mobile-os-sailfish-jolla-tizen10:31
gabriel9maybe i am late, but still nice read10:31
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kimmolisomeone did ask about toh gpio control for powerTOH or such, now he asks in TMO PM it, seems to be new used with 0 posts, and i can't send him a PM. meh.12:49
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chem|stkimmoli: 0 posts cannot send you PMs... and if you can send him PMs depends on their settings not TMOs12:56
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kimmoliPosts: 0 | Thanked: 0 times | Joined on May 2015 ... seems to be able to send me12:57
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chem|stkimmoli: mini...12:57
chem|st?12:57
kimmoliy12:58
kimmoli has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.12:58
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chem|stkimmoli: he complains about being unable to access PM system...12:59
kimmoliaha13:00
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kimmolii was just wondering where he did ask this first time... cant find anything from irssi logs13:00
chem|stand why should he be able to receive PMs if he is not able to send any13:00
kimmolibut he sent me a PM ... how that is possible then..13:00
chem|stkimmoli: did he send you a mail or a PM?13:02
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chem|sthe has no PM statistic so unless he is voodoo-master I do not know how to send you PMs with a system that does not know about it...13:03
kimmoliPM, if i read it in TMO, Private messages inbox13:03
kimmolivoodoo then13:03
chem|stminitreintje?13:04
chem|stI need a nickname13:04
chem|stor secondary account?13:04
kimmoliyes13:04
chem|stdid never send messages13:05
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narchiejolla russian when13:26
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kimmoli#jollarussia ?13:28
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Morpog_workSeems pretty clear now that Jolla tablet will dump btrfs and uses LVM13:36
Nicd-from what?13:36
Morpog_workhttps://github.com/sailfishos/initrd-helpers/commit/7fb283df9b45e58eb7ab94b080948c1fa553085f13:37
* Stskeeps gets a shovel and starts hitting btrfs13:37
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WntMorpog_work: interesting!13:37
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* chem|st takes a stand, unarms Stskeeps and hunts him with the shovel13:53
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Smitty Hello, been reading a little about the Sailfish OS. Is it possible this can be ported to the Samsung Galaxy Note 4?13:55
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Morpog_workSmitty: #sailfishos-porters13:57
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SmittyOkay!13:57
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TofeMorpog_work: https://github.com/sailfishos/initrd-helpers/commit/7fb283df9b45e58eb7ab94b080948c1fa553085f#diff-601f86f06331a45c7846fba0cc1fb459R32 hehe14:09
Morpog_worknice :D14:10
Morpog_workI wonder if they try to get rid of btrfs on phone too14:11
Stskeepstoo late for that14:11
Morpog_worklike using sfmf to dump existing stuff on sdcard and then repartition, convert and reflash from there14:12
Stskeepsthough i wouldn't mind community work to refresh devices14:12
Stskeeps:P14:12
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Morpog_workgtg14:16
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narchieso is it yet safe to update14:18
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Yanielif you have done a btrfs balance and have lots of free space, yes 1.1.4 should be pretty safe AFAIK14:20
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Nicd-oh yes, 10/10 on test-ipv6.com with jolla's dual stack \o/14:39
Nicd-on my mobile contract14:39
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Nicd-still need to make a systemctl service for it so it's enabled on boot somehow14:45
Nicd-dual stack that is. unless it can be set with a conf file14:45
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MikaelaNicd-: dualstack should be remembered across reboots15:51
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Mikaelaand I learned that I live in 4Gless zone with Elisa :(15:52
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ScreamerXive read that jolla stores its sms in an sqlite database: https://together.jolla.com/question/26273/sms-ability-to-copy-store-them-to-an-excel-csv-file/   how does the schema of this table look like?17:21
coderussqlite3 dbfile17:21
coderus.s17:21
ScreamerXi know how to query the schema. i just dont have a jolla phone (yet).17:22
ScreamerXdoes it store the gsm access point of the sender?17:23
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coderusScreamerX: https://gist.github.com/609097b5de4ef359487c17:25
Teguoh, I didn't know that gist can do pastes without an account. apparently I had never visited the frontpage of gist :D17:27
Teguor hmm17:27
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coderusTegu: https://github.com/CODeRUS/gist17:29
Tegunice17:29
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Nicd-Mikaela: oh? I'll reboot to test :)17:42
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Nicd-Tegu: you can do anonymous gists17:42
Teguyea apparently, just didn't know that17:42
Tegu(not that I've ever used gist for that matter. except reading some links)17:43
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coderusi like gist highlight better17:46
coderusand it supports QML17:46
ScreamerXcoderus, thank you for posting the schema. so the gsm access point of the sender is not stored?17:48
coderusScreamerX: no idea waht is "gsm access point of the sender" really, sorry17:49
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ScreamerXcoderus, sorry, for gsm it is called cell id. https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/business/geolocation/#cell_tower_object17:51
ScreamerXi was told, old symbian phones did store the cell id of the sender of an sms.17:51
ScreamerXwith the cell id you could locate the person sending an sms.17:52
Teguhaha, does the operator send such data to the recipient?17:54
ScreamerXi think so, yes17:54
pphmn, can't remember seeing that back when I did sms stuff with at commands and nasty decoding code :-)17:55
ppbut might be a different layer that just wasn't visible there17:55
chem|stpp: cause you see everything after the modem17:55
chem|stpolice and ia use some kind of autoreply feature to receive silent sms, I think they call it location-ping17:56
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chem|stinitially that was implemented as payment option I think17:57
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ScreamerXis the gsm cell id of the sender stored somewhere in the sqlite database?17:57
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chem|ston sailfish? I doubt it - no idea if that is already suppressed by providers17:58
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Nicd-Mikaela: you were right, it is persisted through a reboot :)18:04
Mikaela:)18:05
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Stskeepshttps://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150519.141122.33678ce5.en.html18:52
Nicd-such a sad story18:52
Nicd-somebody tell them to enable developer mode18:53
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raa700if no internets, how did he get file browser?19:01
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Nicd-was the command to go back to single stack ipv4 the same as dual stack but with 'variant:string:"ip"' at the end?19:15
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TheBootroo|workStskeeps: help me please19:27
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StskeepsTheBootroo|work: .. i can give you a beer?19:27
TheBootroo|workmy wifi had her jolle phone randomly shutting down and blinking red led19:27
Yanielwifi?19:27
TheBootroo|workso i backed up all her files19:27
TheBootroo|workand tired factory reset19:28
TheBootroo|worknow it's stuck on jolla logo19:28
Stskeepsable to get into recovery?19:28
TheBootroo|worki tried usb recovery too, but it tells my connection refused on telnet19:28
Stskeepsuse the right ip19:28
TheBootroo|worki have the good IP19:28
TheBootroo|worki  can ping it too19:28
Stskeepstrust me, you don't :P19:28
TheBootroo|workbut telnet tells "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused"19:28
Stskeepscan you ssh to it?19:29
TheBootroo|workinet 10.42.66.66  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 10.42.66.25519:29
Stskeepsmake yours .6719:29
TheBootroo|worknope i can't ssh19:29
Stskeepsten bucks you're trying to access your own pc19:29
TheBootroo|worktelnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host19:29
TheBootroo|workwhen i try 6719:30
Nicd-did you change your computer's IP?19:30
TheBootroo|worki had to force manual ipv4 adres, because by default it gives me ipv619:30
TheBootroo|workand it deosn't work19:30
Stskeepsyou have to telnet to 10.42.66.6619:31
TheBootroo|workohhh19:31
TheBootroo|worki got it19:31
coderusTheBootroo|work: its telnet, not ssh19:31
Stskeepsif your pc's ip is 10.42.66.66 is wrong19:31
TheBootroo|worki have the meny19:31
TheBootroo|workwhat now ?19:31
TheBootroo|workall i want is erase all and get new device19:32
Stskeepstry a factory reset as a start19:32
TheBootroo|workclean19:32
coderusTheBootroo|work: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201890427-How-do-I-reset-the-phone-to-factory-settings-19:32
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coderusah sorry its not about recovery19:32
coderushttps://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204709607-How-do-I-use-the-Recovery-Mode-19:32
coderusthis one19:32
coderusworth to read19:33
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TheBootroo|workcoderus: i have to copy & paste all these commands ?19:33
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TheBootroo|workthere is no single line "erase all and clean" ?19:33
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TheBootroo|work[DONE] DEVICE RECOVERED!19:34
TheBootroo|worki dunno if it "actually" worked19:35
TheBootroo|workStskeeps: it should reboot now ?19:35
TheBootroo|worki have still red led19:35
TheBootroo|workand jolla logo19:35
Stskeepsgive it a bit19:35
TheBootroo|workwhat must i do ?19:35
TheBootroo|workok19:35
* TheBootroo|work waiting19:35
Stskeepsit's on charger?19:36
TheBootroo|workStskeeps: usb on pc19:36
Stskeepsok19:36
TheBootroo|workjust in case something goes wrong, here is the trace http://pastebin.com/EPe8DjYi19:36
TheBootroo|workshould i leave it plugged on pc ?19:37
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TheBootroo|workStskeeps: still red led and jolla logo, is it normal that it's sooo lang ?19:40
TheBootroo|work*long19:40
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TheBootroo|workstill didn't rebooted19:44
TheBootroo|work10 minutes already since i press ENTER in recovery tool19:44
TheBootroo|worknot sure what to do now19:44
TheBootroo|workStskeeps: is this normal ?19:45
chem|stTheBootroo|work: it can take a while19:46
Stskeepsdoesn't sound good, so, jolla.zendesk.com if it doesn't manifest for 30 minutes19:46
chem|stStskeeps: resets after a reset took >20min for some people iirc19:47
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TheBootroo|workchem|st: that much ?19:49
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TheBootroo|workwhat is it doing internally ? isn't it just basically extraction some readonly archive on rootfs ?19:49
Stskeepsah, that'd be easy wouldn't it19:49
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TheBootroo|workStskeeps: as the devices are all the same, why should the operation duration vary that much from one device to another ?19:50
TheBootroo|workthat sound weird to me....19:50
Stskeepsbtrfs.19:50
Stskeeps:P19:50
TheBootroo|workoh19:50
TheBootroo|workStskeeps: from the log i pastebin-ed, can you tel if my btrfs is ruined up ?19:51
Stskeepsno, it looked ok19:51
TheBootroo|workok19:51
TheBootroo|workbecause it had some warnings19:51
TheBootroo|work"unknown operand"19:52
Stskeepsthat looked a bit weird yess19:52
TheBootroo|workstill that damn fix red led19:53
TheBootroo|workit could at least pulse, just to "look alive"19:53
TheBootroo|workjust sayin ^^19:53
TheBootroo|worknow its stuck in this "post recovery / pre reboot" state since 20 minutes19:54
TheBootroo|worki'm fingers-crossed19:55
TheBootroo|workjust hoping it can be saved without having to send it back to finland19:55
TheBootroo|workit would mean at least 6 to 10 days without phone19:55
TheBootroo|workand THIS would be unacceptable19:55
Stskeepswell, there's always the mmc trick that i don't recommend19:55
TheBootroo|workStskeeps: which is ?19:56
TheBootroo|workmanually copying things instead of using recovery tool ?19:56
Stskeepsthere's people that has published a copy of the mmc partition somewhere19:57
Stskeepsbut that's not an official fix, since it's a hack19:57
Stskeepsand may break phone even worse19:57
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TheBootroo|workok19:58
TheBootroo|workso, hoping the official trick will work19:58
TheBootroo|workbut ATM it's not very bright19:58
TheBootroo|work25 minutes now;..19:59
TheBootroo|workT_T19:59
TheBootroo|workrecovering a linux device should not be so complex20:00
TheBootroo|worki've took back to life a lot of linux computers20:00
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Stskeepshave you ever tried recovering a dead linux distro? ;)20:00
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TheBootroo|worki though the phone would be similar20:00
TheBootroo|workthat said, if there are some tricks i can try in the recovery shell, i'm not afraid by linux CLI20:01
TheBootroo|work27 minutes20:01
TheBootroo|workit should definitely not take that much time20:02
TheBootroo|worksomething must be broken and did not appear on log trace20:02
Stskeepsbut now it's 10pm and i need to get to sleep20:02
TheBootroo|workStskeeps:20:02
TheBootroo|worklook trace log20:02
TheBootroo|workline 9020:02
TheBootroo|work"segmentation fault"20:03
TheBootroo|workit's 10pm here too, but i can't go to bed and tell my wife that her phone is dead....20:03
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chem|stTheBootroo|work: hmm20:09
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chem|stas you wanted factory reset... how about sending it in? for that kind of stuff it should not take longer than a week20:11
TheBootroo|workchem|st: a week without phone IS long20:12
TheBootroo|workwe have no more fallback phone working here20:12
TheBootroo|workand don't want to buy one just for a week20:12
chem|stif you find someone with the same release as yours you may get an mmc image to recover but it is not adviseable nor very safe to recover from another phone, I for example locked my lock-code that way20:15
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coderusi have clean 1.0.8.something version :)20:46
coderusstill no time to make "latest" :D20:46
coderusthis way: https://gist.github.com/tuukka/7a81112ef161ee77eccb20:47
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coderusso no need to get "someone's data"20:47
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MikaelaCan someone safe me from Googling and tell me how do I check what DNS servers connman is using?21:04
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tevedbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=net.connman / net.connman.Manager.GetServices and search for Nameservers21:14
Mikaelathanks :)21:15
tevenot really elegant way..21:15
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teveI prefer /etc/resolv.conf21:16
Mikaelateve: and what does that tell to you?21:16
tevewell, just localhost -> there is some local caching resolver21:18
Mikaelaand my question was how does one see behind it21:20
Mikaelahmm, on wlan that returns nameservers of all networks?21:21
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