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trigpointOne of my contacts has a new number, but i can't edit or delete the old one. Seems i can't change anything with a world icon09:23
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tbrtrigpoint: merged contact from some other service?09:24
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trigpointthe ones i synced with my n909:26
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trigpointused the bluetooth copy from old phone feature, which is how most got onto my n909:28
tbrhrm09:29
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chem|sttrigpoint: if it is a number then its export is with a wrong label and People does not allow to alter anything but numbers for that matter10:58
chem|sttrigpoint: for me n9 BT sync was so broken that I extracted the all.vcf file on N9 and imported this then later on my Jolla, anything but that had weird explosions10:59
ccha3hello is it possible to install google play apps without google play ?11:00
chem|stccha3: you need to activate 3rd party software in settings11:01
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chem|stthen you can isntall from files iirc11:01
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chem|stwhere you get your apks from does not matter11:01
chem|stfor a lot of stuff you need google settings and google services though11:02
ccha3so you need to install google play ?11:02
ccha3I want to install an app there is only on google play11:03
chem|stdon't knwo if there is a way to install services and settings without it but actualy those two are the reason why you do not want gplay in the first place11:03
chem|stccha3: download it with a webdownloader and try to run it... if it is complaining about gservice then you need the google blobs11:04
chem|stccha3: what app is it11:05
ccha3c-walletc-wallet11:05
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chem|stit is available from aptoid11:06
chem|stccha3: french coupon app?11:06
ccha3yes11:07
ccha3ok trying to find it on aptoid11:08
ccha3not easy to this this key search on aptoide11:10
chem|stno idea about the aptoide store app, the website shows it though11:11
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Temewant to sell: Jolla Phone, First One batch12:02
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jaacoppiI offer 1€12:04
Temenot quite there yet12:05
jaacoppiseriously though, ggabriel might buy it for 2€ just for the battery12:05
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Temeand the first one cover gets prioritized upgrades ;)12:05
Temeprecious few hours before the plebs12:06
Temedunno if that is the case actually with never updates12:06
Temenewer*12:06
jaacoppithat's interesting12:06
Tegunever updates :D12:06
Temelol12:06
Temepun not intended12:06
jaacoppispeaking of never updating, where's 1.612:06
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SceltIf there are no updates... *weeps* Sons, badger has been killed. Rest in peace with mushrooms.12:08
ppwaiting for someone to push a button, I'm sure :-)12:08
ppand/or fix some bugs12:09
Nicd-when were you when jolla dies? I was sat at home coding when Teme ring. 'jolla is kill' 'no'12:11
Stskeepspp: pretty much12:11
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jaacoppijolla doesn't push buttons, it swipes screens12:14
Stskeepsour CI has buttons.12:14
Stskeeps:P12:14
TemeNicd-: was that a reference to something or what? :D12:15
TemeIIRC your english is not so bad12:15
Nicd-it was a top quality meme from the interwebs12:16
Temeright12:16
SceltNicd-: url12:16
Temejolla is died for me :<12:16
Nicd-http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/john-is-kill12:16
Temerest in rip12:16
Nicd-rip in pieces12:16
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SceltNicd-: hah12:17
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TaaemTeme: why do you sell your phone?12:36
inteccha3: you could also try a service like http://downloader-apk.com/12:37
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coderususe evozi12:37
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TemeTaaem: too little memory12:39
Temeif there was Jolla Phone 2 available, i'd get it12:39
Temealso the outlook of it being a partner phone is not good, since can't talk about finnish design anymore12:40
tadzikFun fact: companies tend to put the apk download on their websites if you ask them “would you rather have some random website distribute your software?” Worked with 100% of the companies I asked (so, one)12:40
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Temeso i'm hopping on the OnePlusOne-bandwagon for the moment, gonna still keep a close eye on Sailfish12:41
temmi_hoopartner phone?12:41
Temehttp://www.kauppalehti.fi/uutiset/jollan-myyntiarviot-menivat-rankasti-metsaan/rxqTMprG you probably know finnish so here12:42
Temehttp://reviewjolla.blogspot.ch/2015/06/news-new-sailfish-os-phone-manufacturer.html acutally this is better anyway12:43
Temeso next phone is gonna be produced by <insert your guess of a relatively small phone company> and not Jolla, running Sailfish12:44
Stskeepsand jolla wasn't relatively small? :P12:44
TaaemNaah fair phone would be nice12:44
TaaemAlso one plus12:44
TemeStskeeps: i didn't say that :D12:45
Temeit being finnish was important to me, well not tome personally but when people asked why i have this phone12:45
SceltStskeeps: how's porting? Are they ports considered stable (or even close) yet?12:45
SceltTeme: +112:46
StskeepsScelt: n5 is quite good12:46
TaaemScelt: N5 and N4 are quite stable I think12:46
SceltStskeeps: okay, that's good12:46
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intei heard geeksphone is not building the blackphone any more13:02
intemaybe they need a replacement13:02
inteor maybe a bigger player13:02
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intesony could be possible13:02
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silver_hookIf Jolla evolves into a SW-only company, what will happen with TOH idea?13:06
Ezkohopefully someone else picks it up13:07
tbrsilver_hook: there's no evolutionary step there. they always aimed at licensing the OS to device makers. If anybody will be interested in licensing the ToH concept? - I doubt it.13:08
silver_hooktbr: True, true. But the question is whether Jolla will continue to make their own devices or not.13:09
Temesilver_hook: i guess that question is answered for the time being: no13:09
silver_hookRight, so for the time being we can consider TOH to be a dead branch in devlopment, right?13:10
Temewell not necessarily, i guess there is nothing stopping whoever the next partner will be from licensing the concept13:12
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Temeor even getting it for free if they make it compatible with the Jolla phone13:13
Temebut doubt it13:13
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plfioriniguess that TOH was useful to get attention and people talking about/showing their stuff and thus getting people to know sailfish ;)13:22
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silver_hookThat’s makes the TOHKBD such a bitter-sweet affair13:35
fluxI guess the TOH concept is not too difficult to implement if someone wanted to13:35
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fluxthough compatibility with current TOHs would be quite a stretch13:36
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tadzikTOHs would probably be a pretty big deal if Jolla sold like 2 orders of magnitude more than what it did13:37
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TriztTeme: that could explain the slow upgrade of sailfishos for the jolla14:35
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mornfallwell, maybe the best possible move would be to drop TOH, use a sealed body and build magnets into it :) contact pads may be hard to sort out, but...19:08
mornfallnot that it's ever going to happen19:08
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