#jollamobile log for Tuesday, 2015-06-09

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tadziksigh, after the update emails don't autosync anymore01:18
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tadzikso did twitter, but twitter doesn't even refresh manually05:33
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chriadamtadzik: can you provide some logs of sync?05:36
chriadamsystemctl --user stop msyncd05:36
chriadamkillall msyncd05:36
chriadamMSYNCD_LOGGING_LEVEL=8 devel-su -p msyncd05:36
chriadamthen in different terminal:05:36
chriadamdevel-su journalctl -af | grep twitter05:36
chriadamthen trigger sync via the pulley05:36
chriadamsend the logs from the journalctl terminal to chris dot adams at jolla dot com05:37
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tadzikHmm, yes, I remember you giving me these instructions before, end then it magically fixed itself :) let's see06:03
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chem|stI'd love to tag some people bleeding-edge-noobs...07:59
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SfietKonstantinWchem|st: that's a fun anthithesis08:05
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chem|stSfietKonstantinW: "help unofficial business on RC not working"08:13
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SfietKonstantinWchem|st: ...08:15
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jaacoppithat's way better than "everything used to work but after I did something nothing works anymore"08:47
rubdosIf I make an OSHW TOH (open source hardware other half), which license would you guys prefer? Should I just GPL it?08:48
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Toferubdos: you should look at other open hardware licenses, I don't think the GPL would really fit for hardware08:50
rubdosTofe, RepRap is under GPL, mostly...08:50
rubdosproblem is that most of the OSHW licenses are not old enough.08:51
rubdos(not mature I mean)08:51
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kimmolirubdos: creative commons is one choice?08:55
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temmi_hoocern has some oshw licence too08:55
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rubdostemmi_hoo, I'm thinking about that one indeed08:56
rubdoskimmoli, and yes, I'm also considering CC BY SA :)08:56
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rubdosI'll see. I have a pretty long debugging process in front of me :p08:56
rubdosDo you guys know whether you can stick a PCB with 1mm of SMD components between the original TOH and the phone?08:57
TemeVmost likely not08:58
TemeVatleast not normal pcb08:58
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kimmolino. there is like 0 space09:00
rubdos:(09:00
rubdosJust checked in Blender. 0 indeed :p09:01
TemeVI wonder how is the sd card interface wired, could it be used for some other purpose :)09:02
kimmolito SoC , spi could be propably tweaked but needs fuzzind linux drivers etc...09:03
tbror SDIO09:04
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fluxif there was a 1 mm gap behind the back plate, you would be able to depress it09:05
tbrto give you an idea, a quite thin Qi charging tag, will fit, but make the toh bulge09:06
tbrso you could fit something in if you are into producing capton circuits an placing 0401 components on them09:07
fluxor you could just order a modified toh from shapeways, minus the rfid sticker?-)09:08
rubdosflux, I guess I'll go with that :)09:08
rubdosOr design one entirely myself...09:08
tbrthat's the obvious choice. just hilighting the limitations of feasibility of what he originally asked for09:09
rubdostbr, I'm using 2512 modules :/09:09
temmi_hooi know people who hand solder 0204 pieces09:11
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rubdosI pity people who hand solder them. Gonna use the pizza oven I think... :p09:12
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TemeV0402 is easy to hand solder09:13
TemeVsmaller than that gets difficult09:14
fluxand easy to lose09:14
TemeVyeah, there is like 50% of 0402 lost when hand soldering :)09:14
TemeVand because there is no prints on them, after dropping the component you can't be sure the component you pick up is the one you just dropped :)09:15
rubdoslol09:15
temmi_hooso don't pick them09:15
temmi_hoolost is lost09:15
TemeVtemmi_hoo: I don't09:15
fluxyou can measure them :)09:16
rubdosI *might* be able to use the manual pick and place machine and the oven at the university...09:16
rubdosgtg now09:16
* rubdos will be back!09:16
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temmi_hoowe got a metcal at the lab easing soldering a lot09:18
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ln-http://elisa.fi/ipv609:51
Nicd-nothing yet for wired :/09:51
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ppdna has, but I simply can't figure out why I can't get a IP on linux (macos gets one fine)10:10
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ppdid get a prefix with dhclient a few weeks back, but that stopped working, maybe I'm on a blacklist :-)10:10
Nicd-pp: on wired?10:10
ppyup10:10
Nicd-source?10:11
pphttps://www.dna.fi/ipv610:11
ppKiinteä laajakaista:10:11
ppKaikki kaapelilaajakaistatuotteet10:11
Nicd-whoa10:12
Nicd-elisa get your shit together10:12
Nicd-I want my dual stack and I want it now10:12
TemeVTampereenpuhelin has no plan for ipv6 :/10:12
ppdhclient -6 -P -N -v -d -i em1  should give you a /5610:12
Nicd-ooh /5610:12
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ln-anyone tried IPv6 on N9? there's an optional package for that.10:13
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ScreamerXHello, does the android support depend on Yandex Store? Can yandex savely be removed without causing problems with android apps?13:03
Stskeepsno, it doesn't, and yes, you can remove it13:03
SfietKonstantinWScreamerX: hello: you can remove yandex store yes13:03
SfietKonstantinWin early releases there was a dependency that tired android support to yandex13:03
SfietKonstantinWbut now it should be ok13:03
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ScreamerXthank you for the fast reply.13:04
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Yaniel1.1.6 update seems to have gone smooth as butter14:31
h4PPYC4Tyep. here as well. :)14:34
Nicd-for some reason my mobile network in settings says "limited connectivity", any idea what that means?14:35
Nicd-I'm on wifi currently, related to that?14:35
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Morpog_PCStill waiting for that blogpost about display change :D18:15
StskeepsMorpog_PC: watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf9f7-yibYQ meanwhile18:16
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HtheBIs Jere Hakala here?18:22
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HtheB_Stskeeps: I have a question18:23
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HtheB_how can I contact the QA team of the Jolla store?18:23
Nicd-HtheB_: developer-care@jolla.com18:24
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HtheB_thnx Nicd-18:27
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oidaHi everyone18:30
oidajust found in release notes for 1.1.6 > Import calendar entries (.vcs, .ical) transferred to your phone via Settings > System > Transfers to Calendar app18:31
oidabut can't find it? I have an ical feed hosted online I need to subscribe to18:31
oidapossible?18:31
oidaOr do I have to download the ical file first?18:32
oidawhich would mean I'd miss any updates, right?18:32
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kimmolidoes your feed work with caldav?18:37
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sakustarlol jolla.com renders wrong with a jolla :(18:53
ln-you are confusing "lol" with ":("18:54
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leinir"so sad you can only laugh to avoid crying"18:56
chem|stlaughing of sadness like tears of joy18:57
sakustarln-: those 2 know whats up ;)18:59
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oidakimmoli: I don't think so, it's ical19:33
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kimmoliworth to test?19:34
oidaJust tried to add the ical file as caldav but it won't accept until I add an user/password but the feed doesn't have auth19:35
kimmoliah19:35
TriztSince 1.1.4 I haven't been able to see my photos on sdcard, any setting which needs to be change to index content on the sdcard?19:36
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Triztand no "tracker-control -es" don't fix it19:39
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oidaok I figured when I navigate with Jolla browser to the calender and click the .ics link ics file will appear in transfers and I can then add it to an existing calendar. However, it will only add events and not subscribe to it. So I will miss any updates in the future and if I download it again after it's been updated I will have duplicate events. So the way it is right now it's not exactly useful to me.19:47
oida:(19:47
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oidaI found a existing question @together and bumped it: https://together.jolla.com/question/72168/allow-for-subscribing-to-ical-resources/?answer=95426#post-id-9542620:06
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ursAnybody know what the conditions are for a music file to be selectable as a ringtone / alarm tone?20:14
ursI have 26 files visible in my media app, but only 11 are selectable as ringtones20:14
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Triztdepends on the audio type, you can install some extra audio codex and you can pick more, but that is from 3rd party repository20:16
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ursTrizt: but the media app plays them just fine20:21
ursshouldn't that be... the same code, basically?20:21
Triztshould, but this is sailfishos20:21
Triztdid you install extra codeces or you have just support for the standard audio formats?20:21
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ursNo extra codecs, all basically vanilla.20:21
HtheBjuiceme: it's approved :)20:22
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HtheBthe very first fart app for Sailfish OS has become a reality :P20:22
Triztokey, I think you can get a few more if you do install codecs from warehouse, got that way support for the ringtones from my n90020:22
ursTrizt: but it doesn't seem to depend on the codec. Some flacs can be chosen as ringtones, some can't.20:22
r0kk3rzyep, because thats what we were missing HtheB20:22
ursTrizt: and some oggs can and some can't20:22
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r0kk3rzcodec maybe not so much, but container format maybe20:23
Trizturs: maybe it has to do with variable bit rates20:23
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ursIs there any way to get debug messages as to *why* it doesn't list the other ones?20:25
* Trizt shrugs20:25
r0kk3rzlook at the files it lists, look at ones it doesnt, determine difference20:27
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ursok, I got one here that works, and one that doesn't... both are flac, encoded with the same encoder version20:32
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r0kk3rzlength? filesize?20:33
r0kk3rzdoes it have an apostrophe in the name?20:35
ursis different of course, those are two different pieces of music20:35
r0kk3rzyes but wildly different?20:35
r0kk3rzyou said you also have 11 others to compare to as well20:35
ursyeah, I'll check some more things20:35
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r0kk3rzprobably an idea not to use flacs as ringtones anyway20:49
coderusurs: filenames? paths?20:49
r0kk3rzuse something like audacity to cut them down and mp3 encode them to just the first 30sec20:49
r0kk3rza lot of the dialler stuff is permanently loaded into memory20:50
r0kk3rznot sure if that includes ringtones or not, but possibly20:50
coderusif you copy it to /usr/share/sounds/jolla-ringtones/stereo20:50
HtheBcoderus: it's on the Store :)20:51
coderusHtheB: :D20:51
coderusi said you, it will be easy, just make em happy.20:51
urscoderus: even if I name them "test1.flac" and "test2.flac" and put them into the same directory, only one of them is selectable20:52
HtheByaeh20:52
HtheBany idea if you're going to update eventsview patch?20:52
urscoderus: no, even if I copy them to the jolla-ringtones directory, they aren't visible20:55
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MoritzJTSorry to bother you, do you by any chance know the download size of latest opt in update?21:41
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