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ggabrielhi08:48
ggabrielis it just me or is anybody else not getting the update notification for 1.1.7?08:48
PeperJohnnyIs it official for everybody now?08:51
ggabrieli was told it was ga08:55
ggabrielunless i misunderstood08:55
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PeperJohnnyI already have it, but then again I am in the group of early testers or whatever they are called08:56
lainwir3dI don't have it either08:57
accumulatorme neither08:57
ggabrielok, so maybe it's still ea08:57
ggabrielthanks :)08:57
PeperJohnnythere is nothing on tjc either, that would suggest that its released08:58
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the_mgtiirc, I got an early update and an official notification for the last two updates09:04
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Sail0rhttps://thehackernews.com/2015/07/android-vulnerability-crash.html10:40
Sail0r:D10:40
Sail0ranother one ...10:40
Sail0rwhich google failed to patch10:41
Sail0rmaybe they should think about their own policy ;)10:41
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SiddeSail0r: nice10:45
ggabrielgoogle doesn't make mistakes10:58
ggabriel"almost making them completely unresponsive and useless to perform very basic functions, including to make or receive calls."11:00
ggabrielthat happens to me without the exploit fwiw11:00
ggabrieljust when android starts updating itself or downloading stuff for no reason11:00
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TMavicaggabriel: system_server used up 10% memory when alien dalvik enabled..11:23
ggabrielTMavica: i read yesterday :)11:24
chem|stTMavica: gapps/services?11:24
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TMavicaAlso zypote and some come.android.xxxx, com.myriadgro11:24
TMavicaDont know what they are..11:25
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TMavicaggabriel: google play, service, setting uninstalled, still is here. I remember previous update doesnt have these processes11:26
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ggabrielTMavica: where do you see that? top command?11:27
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TMavicaLighthouse11:28
TMavicaSort by memory, then u can see them11:28
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ggabrielbut if you stop alien dalvik that goes away, right?11:30
TMavicaYes11:31
TMavicaAlien dalvik enabled, then used up 20 more % memory11:32
TMavicaCan u see them?11:32
ggabrielyup, they seem normal, and i never installed google stuff11:33
ggabrielmyriad is the company who makes alien dalvik anyway, isn't it?11:34
ggabrielmy com.android are contacts and so on11:34
ggabrielbut my system server uses 7% of ram11:34
ggabrielthen again, i have 2 android viruses installed and I use 1 very rareloy11:34
* ggabriel admits that using tohkbd to find out all this stuff is a lot more fun than anticipated11:35
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pdanekTMavica: hey11:41
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LipevakalaHmm. Update 1.1.7.25 closes apps violently? Atleast no hope keeping irc live with multiple apps..14:20
Teguit has been happening for a long time already14:21
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Teguat least update 10 (iirc) made it more agressive14:21
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LipevakalaYes notised that but now this is bad.14:25
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chem|stbetter than freezing14:33
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LipevakalaJeah but now it drops ind you cant notice what is happening.... i hope that you can choose important apps14:42
ggabrielyou can adjust the behaviour of the oom killer14:42
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LipevakalaHow¿14:44
ggabriellook in tjc, somebody wrote something about it14:44
ggabrielofc i haven't got the link handy14:44
ggabrieland it does need dev mode14:44
LipevakalaOk, i look for it..14:45
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topi`it seems my jolla just went into a reboot loop. I tried fixing the Btrfs with the (4) option from the telnet menu but no avail16:34
topi`any further ideas?16:34
topi`the things most valuable on the eMMC are the photos, I tried mounting partition 27 and have a look at /data but there was no jpg's to be seen anywhere, I just got a "Stale NFS handle" message when doing du -s16:35
topi`I don't understand what NFS has to do with btrfs, though16:35
topi`what's the default location for photos shot with the default jolla camera app?16:38
r0kk3rzhome/nemo16:38
topi`thanks16:38
topi`it seems /home is totally empty16:39
topi`on mmcblk0p2816:40
topi`any ideas how this can be fixed?16:40
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r0kk3rzhmmm16:42
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r0kk3rzmine appears to be mounted from blk0p28 anyway16:42
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topi`oh, so blk0p28 is mounted at /home usually?16:44
topi`probably not, since there is a link from sdcard -> home/nemo/android_storage16:46
topi`which is broken16:46
topi`since there is no home/nemo, just an empty home16:46
topi`OK, I just declare my photos officially dead :/ should have backed up early...16:46
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r0kk3rzothers might have ideas, i havent really touched recovery mode16:50
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Stskeepstopi`: don't factory reset yet16:54
Stskeepstopi`: mkdir -p /mnt; mount -o subvolid=0 /dev/mmcblk0p28 /mnt; cd /mnt/@home16:55
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Stskeepstopi`: that should have your photos17:02
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pdanek2hey17:22
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pdanek2do you think intex phones will have same update priority, or the os updates will be later than for jolla phones?17:23
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Yanielgood question17:25
pdanek2Because it might get as crazy as with Android, if updates become dependent on vendor17:25
pdanek2and Jolla wants to make UI customizable for vendors17:26
pdanek2right?17:26
YanielAFAIK the only thing customizable by vendors is the partner space17:26
Yanielie. one package17:26
pdanek2alright17:26
Yanielthe main question I'm thinking of are drivers17:27
pdanek2can the partnerspace be uninstalled?17:27
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Yanieltechnically it probably won't be too difficult17:28
Yanielwhether it is supported or not is another thing17:28
pdanek2right17:28
pdanek2hopefully they sort it out and don't let updates in hands of vendors17:29
pdanek2btw, I do think that Jolla itself has participated on HW design of upcoming Intex phone17:31
pdanek2or that's the whole point of reference platform?17:31
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topi`Stskeeps: excellent! thanks for the advice. I'll recover my photos to a SD card.17:33
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Stskeepstopi`: hope it works, i know how valuable memories are17:38
Stskeeps(i lost mine 2003-2008 due to backup hd crashing at the wrong time)17:39
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Stskeepspdanek2: update priorities take effort and are impractical17:39
Stskeepsif anything, jolla phones would be first since they are better feedack17:39
Stskeeps+b17:39
pdanek2Stskeeps: first by matter of days I guess17:40
pdanek2not months or years like android17:41
chem|sttopi`: make that subvolume=@home just to be sure not to fck up your recovery snapshots17:41
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pdanekPitty that Gnome 3 isn't in Qt21:01
pdanekPity*21:01
Tegugnome in qt, for sure :P21:01
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chem|stpdanek1: pitty KDE did not die a horrible death 10 years ago21:13
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* stephg quite likes plasma521:51
stephgbut I'm not getting into that discussion now, good night! ;)21:52
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phlixii bet without kde we wouldnt have qt either21:54
Sail0rwhy is android so f*cked21:56
Sail0rtry to setup a vpn connection21:56
Sail0rand after each change I need to reboot the damn tablet21:56
Sail0rotherwise it just says "unknown error"21:57
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