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Marzanna[m]Anyone got Fiskarsinjoki update on AquaFish?17:45
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RiotelaI would imagine those #freenode_#jollafanclub:matrix.org people have as there was some script for making it think it's JollaC18:18
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kimmolithere are instructions in tjc18:23
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coderushttps://together.jolla.com/question/148893/how-to-make-aqua-fish-to-think-its-jolla-c-not-modem/19:26
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cehtehyes .. root .. shell  .. curl .. YES20:21
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coderuscehteh: ?21:27
cehtehi think its alway a bad idea to instruct users to execute things this way, let them download the script locally, inspect it, then execute21:29
cehtehand possibly add a gpg signature to that script21:29
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coderuscehteh: why? if you smart enough you can do that by opening link in browser, if not - even if you download script you can't even understand what it doing :)21:39
cehtehthe point is that it show the one giving this instruction is careless, of course some skilled user may be more cautionous, but recommening executing scripts this way is malpractice imo21:41
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coderuswhy?21:42
coderussame if i do an app doing that by suid process, no difference21:42
coderusscript is easier to make21:42
cehteha app (installable by openrepos) would be signed or?21:44
coderusnothing is signed21:44
cehtehwoot they are not?21:44
coderussure21:44
cehtehwtf21:45
coderusnot even official ones21:45
cehtehi never checked that, just expected it to be21:45
coderusi expected to have less paranoid peoples around me, but, eh..21:45
cehtehits not just about paranoia, but good practice to leave no attack surface open would make things safer by default.21:46
coderuswhat attack surface with executing bash script from curl in root shell?21:47
cehtehdo you trust github 100%, i mean even if they are not evil minded, they might get compromised, or maybe only your accout could get compromised and in turn be used to spread malware to other people21:49
cehtehideally one wants to have some trust chain to the author of a script/app/whatever21:53
cehtehif i install apps from you of course i need to trust you in some extend, but there are so much things inbetween which could be fucked up21:53
cehtehwell thats a different topic, i started with one should just publish some sane (as in not racy) way when giving instructions about executing shell scripts21:53
cehtehcurl https://....   >script.sh; less script.sh; sh script.sh21:54
cehtehor even put a implicit gpg signed script up then one has to gpg verify it, but arguably that could complicate things too much21:55
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coderusthats why i say: paranoid22:04
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coderusi can upload script to my server, but i dont want22:05
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