| pherjung | Good morning! | 06:58 |
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| ExTechOp | Good morning, everyone! | 06:58 |
| Thaodan | Good Morning | 06:59 |
| flypig | Good morning! | 07:00 |
| flypig | We should get started :) | 07:00 |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sailbot | 07:01 | |
| flypig | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th May 2022 | 07:01 |
| sailbot | Meeting started Thu May 12 07:01:10 2022 UTC. The chair is flypig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:01 |
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| *** sailbot changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th May 2022)" | 07:01 | |
| flypig | #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: | 07:01 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-12th-may-2022/11334 | 07:01 |
| flypig | I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and your elders. | 07:01 |
| flypig | #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info | 07:01 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th May 2022)" | 07:01 | |
| ExTechOp | #info Otto Mäkelä, community | 07:02 |
| pherjung | #info pherjung, community | 07:02 |
| dcaliste_ | #info Damien Caliste, community | 07:02 |
| sledges | #info Simonas Leleiva - privateer | 07:02 |
| flypig | #info David Llewellyn-Jones, sailor @ jolla | 07:03 |
| Thaodan | #info Björn Bidar - Sailor @ Jolla | 07:03 |
| jwalden | #info JP Walden - Sailor @ Jolla | 07:04 |
| lbt | #info David Greaves - Sailor and OBS guy | 07:04 |
| flypig | It's great to see everyone today. If anyone else would like to reveal themselves, now is the time! | 07:07 |
| flypig | Okay, that must be everyone. What is that? 3:4 community:sailors? | 07:08 |
| rainemak | #info Raine Mäkeälinen - Sailor @ Jolla | 07:09 |
| Thaodan | Some might lurk from Telegram | 07:09 |
| flypig | Indeed :) | 07:09 |
| rainemak | #info Raine Mäkeläinen - Sailor @ Jolla | 07:09 |
| flypig | We only had one main question and piggz said he may arrive a little late, so we will start with the bug roundup. | 07:09 |
| Thaodan | telegram shows at least 4 lurkers | 07:09 |
| flypig | #topic Bug roundup (15 mins -- asked by pherjung) | 07:09 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Bug roundup (15 mins -- asked by pherjung) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th May 2022)" | 07:09 | |
| flypig | #info The Community Bug Coordination team have continued their careful and thorough herding of bugs. | 07:10 |
| flypig | #info Thank you for the list of bugs to review. We've been through them carefully; I'll list the outcomes for each of them and then we can discuus any issues. | 07:10 |
| piggz | flypig: im here right no ... school run in 20 mins | 07:10 |
| flypig | There's quite a few, so please bear with me. | 07:10 |
| flypig | #info The following have been tagged as "fixed". | 07:10 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/exporting-contacts-people-with-vcardconverter-doesnt-work/11132 | 07:10 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/main-camera-does-not-start/1905 | 07:10 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/incoming-calls-are-suppressed-and-a-notification-is-missing/2075 | 07:10 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/audio-output-detection-stopped-working/1038 | 07:11 |
| flypig | #info The following has had a fix applied for the next release. | 07:11 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/4-4-0-58-tap-missing-call-doesnt-open-phone-app/10819 | 07:11 |
| flypig | #info The following are now tagged as "tracked" and have PRs proposed to fix them. | 07:11 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/4-3-0-4-2-0-4-1-0-4-0-1-deleted-screenshot-is-not-handled-properly-via-notifications/5801 | 07:11 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/4-2-0-4-1-0-4-0-1-horizontal-line-over-one-line-sms-message-bubbles/4866 | 07:11 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/4-2-0-number-of-email-preview-rows-change/8083 | 07:11 |
| flypig | #info The following already had an internal report and is now tagged as "tracked" | 07:11 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/bluetooth-toggle-and-indicator-is-out-of-sync-with-reality/6490 | 07:11 |
| flypig | #info The following have new internal bug reports and have been tagged as "tracked" | 07:11 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/help-for-getting-mms-with-the-french-mobile-operator-bouygues/3243 | 07:11 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/browser-cookie-whitelist-not-working/10981 | 07:11 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/design-flaw-calendar-weekday-overlapping-in-german/10951 | 07:11 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/browser-paste-multiple-digits-when-numeric-keyboard-is-on/10035 | 07:12 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/browser-paste-multiple-digits-when-numeric-keyboard-is-on/10035 | 07:12 |
| flypig | Finally... | 07:12 |
| flypig | #info I've left this one as it is so I can look at the logs in more detail. | 07:12 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/4-4-0-58-carddav-sync-with-nextcloud-fails/11033 | 07:12 |
| flypig | That's all of them. Once again, thanks to the bug team for all your hard work. It was particularly nice to see the reports which already had suggestions for fixes. | 07:12 |
| flypig | Any comments about either these bugs, or the process? Do things seem to be working okay? | 07:12 |
| pherjung | You pasted the same link twice | 07:12 |
| flypig | Oh, sorry. Which one. One second. | 07:12 |
| pherjung | 3rd last one | 07:13 |
| flypig | #info The following also has a new internal bug report and has been tagged as "tracked" | 07:13 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/screenshot-leads-to-lipstick-high-cpu-and-battery-drain/7142 | 07:13 |
| flypig | It should have been that one. Apologies. | 07:13 |
| sledges | you can use #undo next time ;) | 07:14 |
| pherjung | This one hasn't been reviewed: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/4-4-0-58-carddav-sync-with-nextcloud-fails/11033 | 07:14 |
| flypig | Noted. | 07:14 |
| flypig | pherjung, that's right. I need to go through the log for that one in more detail. | 07:14 |
| pherjung | isn't the tag pending appropriate? Or a little to early to add it? | 07:15 |
| flypig | Yes, probably pending sounds appropriate in this case then. I've tagged it as pending. | 07:16 |
| * pherjung is now an happy bug coordinator :) | 07:18 | |
| flypig | Great! That's very gratifying to hear :) | 07:18 |
| flypig | Does anything need changing with the process right now? We should continue refining it of course. | 07:19 |
| pherjung | As we discussed privately, there are a lot of bug reports. A lot are from SailfishOS 3 and I first thought it could be a good idea to track them. Finally, it's better to stay focus on the current list. | 07:20 |
| flypig | Okay good. I will add that to the minutes. | 07:21 |
| pherjung | Once it's over, I think it could be helpfull to ask all users to verify if their bug are still real | 07:21 |
| flypig | #info <pherjung> there are a lot of bug reports. A lot are from SailfishOS 3 and I first thought it could be a good idea to track them. Finally, it's better to stay focus on the current list. | 07:21 |
| pherjung | Are you fine with this process? | 07:21 |
| flypig | #info <pherjung> Once it's over, I think it could be helpfull to ask all users to verify if their bug are still real | 07:21 |
| flypig | It seems like you and the team are having to do a lot of effort in the background pherjung, but it seems to be producing results. So I'm happy with the process as long as you are. | 07:22 |
| flypig | We do have a couple more minutes, but if that covers things, I'd suggest we move on to the next question. | 07:24 |
| pherjung | It's fine for me, we can move to the next question | 07:24 |
| flypig | #topic Community OBS status after May 2022 (10 min -- asked by rinigus) | 07:24 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Community OBS status after May 2022 (10 min -- asked by rinigus) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th May 2022)" | 07:24 | |
| flypig | #info <rinigus> We are getting close to the anniversary of the announcement regarding community OBS. | 07:24 |
| flypig | #info <rinigus> As the commitment by Jolla was made for a year, it would be great to hear what are the plans regarding OBS. | 07:24 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-obs-refurbished-and-re-floated/6556 | 07:24 |
| flypig | I think rinigus isn't able to make it, but thank you for the question. | 07:25 |
| flypig | I have to be honest, I tried really hard to get a firm answer to your question, but it seems that the decision has yet to be made. | 07:25 |
| flypig | So, this is the best I can do: | 07:25 |
| piggz | ok, ill be gone in a few minutes ... school run ..... can we have commitment to keeping OBS, i think we have proved its usefulness with a new store and ports..... | 07:25 |
| flypig | #info <Jolla> We've been following usage of OBS carefully and are impressed with how well it's been made use of by the community. | 07:25 |
| flypig | #info <Jolla> While it clearly provides benefits, OBS is still a significant resource drain and we are still therefore considering how to support it longer term. | 07:25 |
| flypig | #info <Jolla> Although we're coming to the end of the 12 month period, we're still exploring options, and therefore it won't be taken out of service imminently. | 07:25 |
| flypig | #info <Jolla> As soon as the situation is clearer a concrete announcement will be made. | 07:26 |
| flypig | piggz, sorry that time is tight for you, I thought it would be the other way around (that you'd arrive later!). | 07:26 |
| flypig | lbt is here, so maybe can shed more light on things. | 07:26 |
| lbt | hehe | 07:26 |
| flypig | I'd also suggest that we can push back the same question to the next meeting, if you like piggz? | 07:27 |
| lbt | not really - it's not been something we've been thinking about recently | 07:27 |
| lbt | there is certainly no push to get the OBS shutdown that I'm aware of | 07:28 |
| lbt | Personally I'd take this as "no news is good news" | 07:28 |
| dcaliste_ | about bug 11033, I've commented on the forum about the possible cause for the bug according to the available logs (previous topic, sorry). | 07:28 |
| flypig | Thanks for that dcaliste_, very helpful and appreciated. | 07:30 |
| flypig | Similarly, lbt, I think that's a helpful addition, thanks. | 07:30 |
| flypig | Is there anything further to add here? Does anyone want anything added to the minutes? | 07:34 |
| flypig | Okay, well we hit our allotted 10 minutes on the topic, so let's go to general discussion. | 07:35 |
| pherjung | I'm not aware how OBS works, but isn't a possibility to share the server with another community? | 07:35 |
| pherjung | Sorry | 07:35 |
| flypig | No, don't apologise pherjung. Perhaps lbt could comment on that? | 07:36 |
| lbt | We use a specific version of the OBS that has modifications for building ARM using scratchbox2 so that makes it quite specialised | 07:37 |
| Thaodan | You would basicly need to setup your own obs with those patches plus distributing jolla packages | 07:37 |
| lbt | yes | 07:37 |
| lbt | That's the main reason that the Suse OBS won't work for us - and that's where many other projects end up (and where we started many years ago) | 07:38 |
| flypig | So, you think it's unlikely to be viable to share it like this lbt, Thaodan? | 07:38 |
| lbt | correct | 07:39 |
| Thaodan | It also not that easy to maintain for a single person. | 07:39 |
| Thaodan | It does a lot more than a simple ci server because it manages repos and the building. | 07:39 |
| lbt | yes, there's a whole set of infrastructure behind it | 07:40 |
| Thaodan | I think the best thing is to show uses for it that show value for things like harbour, things that reduce time spend in other areas. | 07:42 |
| flypig | At the moment the link between "chum -> harbour benefit" isn't very clear. It would be good if this could be demonstrated somehow. | 07:43 |
| flypig | We're now quite over time though. We're not in a huge rush, but we can of course continue in General discussion anyway. | 07:44 |
| flypig | #topic General discussion (20 min) | 07:44 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "General discussion (20 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th May 2022)" | 07:44 | |
| lbt | I think it would be interesting to see what the community thinks about the OBS - what value it provides. | 07:45 |
| lbt | Things like applications but also collaborative work, libraries etc | 07:46 |
| flypig | Yes, I'd totally agree with that. It would be good if that was enunciated somewhere. | 07:46 |
| Thaodan | I think the value is well known to those that are active in the community but it would be more helpful to also see this benefit outside | 07:47 |
| lbt | I don't see much pressure to "do something" from Jolla's side at the moment - maybe the community could take a month or two to get a handle on this - after all the 12 month experience goes both ways | 07:47 |
| lbt | Thaodan: yes, and as flypig says, to express this somehow | 07:48 |
| flypig | Practically speaking, is there anything to be done right now that could help with this? | 07:49 |
| lbt | What would a new user get out of using the OBS etc etc | 07:49 |
| Thaodan | flypig: I'd say cleaner and better packaging helps us as jolla sailors because community has less issues in the long run | 07:50 |
| Thaodan | organizing around obs help community with that collaborative work on packages. | 07:51 |
| dcaliste_ | rinigus explained it well last year when it was discussed to shut down the OBS. | 07:52 |
| flypig | Was that on the forum dcaliste_? Do you have a link by any chance? | 07:52 |
| dcaliste_ | He discussed also the pro and con of other "building" services. | 07:52 |
| dcaliste_ | flypig, let me look for it in the forum... | 07:52 |
| flypig | Thank you! | 07:53 |
| flypig | Could some more detail about the uses, benefits and results from OBS be added to the documentation? | 07:53 |
| flypig | #link https://docs.sailfishos.org/Services/Development/Open_Build_Service/ | 07:53 |
| Thaodan | flypig: I'd think so. App devs could be encoured to use the obs. E.g. for testing or test releases. | 07:54 |
| flypig | At the moment, reading those docs as a first-time SFOS developer, I might not get a full idea about what OBS is used for. | 07:54 |
| pherjung | this one https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/obs-shut-down-and-next-steps/1814/9 ? | 07:54 |
| dcaliste_ | flypig, rereading https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/obs-shut-down-and-next-steps/1814 may be of interest. | 07:54 |
| dcaliste_ | Ah pherjung you were quicker than I was ;) | 07:55 |
| flypig | #info For info about the benefits and uses of OBS, the earlier discussion on the forum covers useful ground. | 07:56 |
| pherjung | This one is interesting too https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/announcing-sailfishos-chum/7381 | 07:56 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/obs-shut-down-and-next-steps/1814/9 | 07:56 |
| flypig | #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/announcing-sailfishos-chum/7381 | 07:56 |
| flypig | Okay, we're hitting time. let me just mention, in case anyone missed it, there was a hint at a future announcement yesterday. | 07:58 |
| flypig | #link https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/1524377383985459200 | 07:58 |
| flypig | Would anyone like to make any final comments, or have anything added to the minutes? | 07:59 |
| pherjung | Is it possible that VoLTE come together? | 08:00 |
| piggz | lbt: flypig:Thaodan back ... have we not demonstrated OBS benefits already? we put a lot of effort into it a year ago, and its tiring to go over the same cycle | 08:01 |
| lbt | I think it's more to consolidate and confirm now that the OBS (and specifically Chum) has actually been in use for some time | 08:02 |
| flypig | pherjung, I can't give an answer to that I'm afraid. | 08:02 |
| lbt | There were a lot of "it should do this".... | 08:02 |
| lbt | now the community can say "it DOES do this..." | 08:02 |
| lbt | so I see it more of an affirmation of the OBS which should be able to confirm it's value and that should help cement it in place | 08:03 |
| abr | and maybe a little "and now it could do THIS" | 08:03 |
| lbt | yes - that would be good too - there is actually a lot more potential there | 08:04 |
| lbt | After all we're able to develop an entire OS because the OBS helps so much ;) | 08:04 |
| dcaliste_ | Some stat on number of packages, link between packages (since chum is used to host libraries contrary to harbour), update rate of packages... woulkd be great. | 08:05 |
| dcaliste_ | It would show the importance of chum in my opinion. | 08:05 |
| abr | yeah it's definitely shown realized potential instead of just wishes | 08:06 |
| pherjung | SailfishOS community isn't that big, that's perhaps why we don't see the huge benefit | 08:06 |
| dcaliste_ | That being said, I can't understand neither why a builder in a FOSS environment is not de facto a usefull thing. | 08:06 |
| piggz | number of packages is >210 ... get updates to process most days | 08:07 |
| lbt | dcaliste_: there is the counter argument that the SDK provides the builder functionality | 08:08 |
| lbt | so the OBS is more of a community builder than "the only builder" | 08:08 |
| dcaliste_ | Yeh, builder is a confusing term, I mean a builder with dependency handling and online. | 08:08 |
| piggz | sdk sucks for managing things professionally, eg for managing ports ... and obs does all the distribution .... | 08:09 |
| piggz | perhaps lbt can provide package download stats? | 08:09 |
| Thaodan | The SDK is nice for development but maintaining things is much harder. | 08:09 |
| Thaodan | OBS together with webhooks make packaging so much easier. | 08:09 |
| dcaliste_ | As rinigus mentioned, building *and distributing* a full stack (at leqst 3-4 libs + app) is not that convenient in SDK. | 08:10 |
| piggz | how about jolla reture their internal obs and use the sdk instead .... does that make sense? :D | 08:10 |
| lbt | haha... | 08:10 |
| dcaliste_ | For instance, I'm happy with the SDK for my own purpose when touching the calendar stack, but if I would need to distribute my chances, that would be a nightmare. I'm happy that Jolla is building all the stack themselves on ... an (internal) OBS. | 08:12 |
| lbt | I think these comments are all fodder for confirming the value of the OBS. | 08:14 |
| abr | are there many packages in chum that are also already on the jolla store? | 08:14 |
| Thaodan | It is the same for other things like telepathy development | 08:15 |
| lbt | The point is more that these benefits have now actually been realised and are not just theoretical | 08:15 |
| abr | because there's something affirming about seeing the route from source to package to store | 08:15 |
| Thaodan | abr: I think many are. Communi-IRC is now one (since yesterday) | 08:15 |
| lbt | so the community can look at this and say after 12 months we've done X,Y,Z and benefit from A,B,C ... | 08:16 |
| flypig | lbt, the comments are valuable to be sure, but this is a transient discussion. It might be helpful to have something more concret. | 08:16 |
| lbt | flypig: right - and that's what I was suggesting earlier... tha the community take some time over the next few weeks to solidify these ideas | 08:16 |
| flypig | We're going to have to wrap this up. Are there any practical steps or actions to be noted? | 08:17 |
| lbt | essentially to now put the case to Jolla "here's what we did with the OBS over the last 12 months ... now... can we keep it?" | 08:17 |
| lbt | That sounds like a good forum topic :D :D | 08:17 |
| flypig | So, for the minutes?: 'We encourage the community to now put the case to Jolla "here's what we did with the OBS over the last 12 months ... now... can we keep it?"' | 08:18 |
| lbt | wfm | 08:18 |
| flypig | #info 'We encourage the community to now put the case to Jolla "here's what we did with the OBS over the last 12 months ... now... can we keep it?" | 08:19 |
| piggz | lbt: can you provide download stats for chum and other areas of OBS like nemo:hw:*:* ? | 08:19 |
| lbt | ummm ... not easily | 08:20 |
| flypig | lbt, not easily because they don't exist, or because it's private info? | 08:20 |
| lbt | they don't exist | 08:21 |
| piggz | webserver logs + some python :P | 08:21 |
| lbt | yes, but there are a few ways to pull data from the OBS - API, https download, internal dependency pulls | 08:21 |
| piggz | ah rats, i forgot my foilauth password | 08:22 |
| lbt | just external https should be doable | 08:22 |
| flypig | lbt, would you be willing to look into it for the next meeting? | 08:22 |
| lbt | OK | 08:22 |
| flypig | Great, thank you. | 08:22 |
| flypig | #action lbt to look into publishing any potentially useful OBS/chum stats. | 08:23 |
| flypig | Alright. I'm sorry to cut the really nice discussion short, but we've spent some time on this now, and hopefully it's been useful. | 08:23 |
| flypig | #topic Next meeting time and date (5 min) | 08:23 |
| *** sailbot changes topic to "Next meeting time and date (5 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th May 2022)" | 08:23 | |
| piggz | i can write down some chum stats, and maybe get a list of ports on obs | 08:23 |
| flypig | Could you share those also at the next meeting piggz? | 08:24 |
| piggz | sure | 08:24 |
| flypig | Great, thank you. | 08:24 |
| flypig | #action piggz to share chum stats at the next meeting. | 08:24 |
| flypig | For the next meeting: | 08:24 |
| flypig | Proposing Thursday 26th May at 07:00am UTC | 08:24 |
| flypig | Any objections? | 08:25 |
| ExTechOp | On vacation then, but I'll be on the next one. | 08:25 |
| ExTechOp | A side note, yesterday I got a single-ring phone call from +2420594xxxxx (+242 Republic of the Congo) and apparently they were expecting me to call back https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/one-ring-phone-scam | 08:25 |
| flypig | We will miss you ExTechOp, but have a great vacation :) | 08:26 |
| dcaliste_ | ExTechOp, yeh that's common scam indeed. | 08:26 |
| dcaliste_ | flypig no objection on planed date. | 08:26 |
| flypig | Thanks for the warning ExTechOp. It's very easy to fall into those traps. | 08:26 |
| flypig | Alright, the date is set. | 08:27 |
| flypig | #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 26th May 2022 at 07:00am UTC: 2022-05-26T0700Z | 08:27 |
| flypig | Thanks all for the useful and detailed discussions this week. We'll no doubt return to the topic of OBS in the future. | 08:27 |
| flypig | #endmeeting | 08:27 |
| sailbot | Meeting ended Thu May 12 08:27:49 2022 UTC. | 08:27 |
| sailbot | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2022/sailfishos-meeting.2022-05-12-07.01.html | 08:27 |
| sailbot | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2022/sailfishos-meeting.2022-05-12-07.01.txt | 08:27 |
| sailbot | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2022/sailfishos-meeting.2022-05-12-07.01.log.html | 08:27 |
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| dcaliste_ | Thank you for the discussion and flypig chairing the meeting. Bye. | 08:28 |
| piggz | phew remembered password :D | 08:30 |
| flypig | A happy ending :) | 08:30 |
| piggz | flypig: i didnt mention it earlier, but you didnt talk about my lipstick bug :D | 08:31 |
| Crabster | thx @ #? | 08:31 |
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| flypig | piggz, your lipstick bug? | 08:31 |
| piggz | flypig: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/lipstick-does-not-support-dmabuf/11446 | 08:32 |
| flypig | Ah, did you mention that? I'm afraid I missed it. | 08:33 |
| piggz | think of it as in interesting one to track internally | 08:33 |
| piggz | i dont really expect it to be tracked with normal bugs :D | 08:33 |
| flypig | Well, I can certainly create an internal bug about it. If I understand correctly, this won't prevent SF running on the PP, but it will prevent it running with the latest Mesa driver on the PP? | 08:34 |
| piggz | yes ... but also, the pinephone-pro has many improvemnets in mesa 22, so, its desirable.... | 08:35 |
| piggz | as it turns out, mesa reverted the deprecation of wl_drm in mesa 22.1, due to not all compositors switching to dmabuf | 08:35 |
| piggz | however, ive tried it this morning and its not working, might need to play some more | 08:36 |
| piggz | https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/15822 | 08:37 |
| flypig | I've added this all to an internal issue. Thanks for flagging it up. I can't say what might happen from here though I'm afraid. | 08:40 |
| flypig | Have to wait and see. | 08:40 |
| piggz | sure, i think its something you need to be aware of | 08:42 |
| flypig | Yes indeed. Appreciate it. | 08:43 |
| piggz | not that sticking to older version of software is an issue fot you :D :D | 08:45 |
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