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| situ | sledges: Where has http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/latest/jolla/armv7hl/repodata/repomd.xml moved to ? | 09:53 |
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| sledges | situ: hmmm | 09:55 |
| situ | sledges: http://releases.jolla.com/releases/latest/jolla/armv7hl ? | 09:56 |
| sledges | situ: yes iirc, but where do you need it? | 09:57 |
| situ | sledges: Trying to follow http://blog.idempotent.info/posts/how-to-configure-devel-environment-to-work-on-gecko-for-sailfishos.html | 09:57 |
| sledges | oh nice | 09:58 |
| sledges | yes there was a sailfish.org->jolla.com move in that regard | 09:58 |
| sledges | so does it work now? | 09:58 |
| situ | Yeah, building target. | 09:58 |
| sledges | cool, where should we fix that? mersdk or sfsdk configs? | 09:59 |
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| situ | sledges: I think rozhkov just need to fix his blog post :P | 09:59 |
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| sledges | good;) | 10:04 |
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| situ | sledges: I am not able to create '/media' directory under my sb target. | 10:34 |
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| situ | sledges: It gives me permission denied error. | 10:34 |
| situ | sledges: http://pastebin.com/zwvyCByb | 10:36 |
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| sledges | vakkov: you had similar prob with /usr/lib ? ^ | 10:44 |
| sledges | situ: check where your target resides (parent permissions..) | 10:44 |
| situ | sledges: Right, found and fixed. | 10:45 |
| * stephg read 'patent issues' not parent permissions and was very, very confused for a second | 10:46 | |
| sledges | situ: what was it? | 10:47 |
| situ | sledges: In http://blog.idempotent.info/posts/how-to-configure-devel-environment-to-work-on-gecko-for-sailfishos.html there is this command | 10:47 |
| sledges | stephg: we all had difficult childhood ap-parent-ly | 10:47 |
| situ | 'sudo chown -R $USER /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-target-armv7hl/*' | 10:47 |
| situ | it should be | 10:47 |
| situ | 'sudo chown -R $USER /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-target-armv7hl' | 10:47 |
| stephg | heh | 10:47 |
| sledges | aha ;) | 10:48 |
| stephg | it's a symlink? | 10:48 |
| sledges | nope, but parent dir should also be chowned | 10:48 |
| sledges | btw a guy in UK has family name Chown | 10:49 |
| sledges | :DD | 10:49 |
| stephg | oh was reading them the other way round | 10:49 |
| stephg | bottom one was right, top one wrong | 10:49 |
| stephg | anyway | 10:49 |
| stephg | sledges: looks like a typo to me on his birth certificate | 10:49 |
| stephg | s/h/r/ | 10:49 |
| situ | sledges: xkcd http://xkcd.com/327/ | 10:51 |
| dr_gogeta86 | situ, stephg my ancient relatives got an additional I at beginning of surname | 10:52 |
| sledges | :DD | 10:52 |
| stephg | really? | 10:52 |
| dr_gogeta86 | yep | 10:52 |
| dr_gogeta86 | My Grandfather was Isgro | 10:52 |
| dr_gogeta86 | *Isgrò | 10:52 |
| dr_gogeta86 | while his brothers are Sgrò | 10:52 |
| stephg | wow | 10:53 |
| sledges | neither sounds italian;) | 10:53 |
| stephg | I'm surprised you've not been sued by apple ;) | 10:53 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is Isgrò | 10:53 |
| dr_gogeta86 | not iSgrò | 10:53 |
| stephg | hehe | 10:53 |
| dr_gogeta86 | during this years i've lost the accent on last char | 10:55 |
| alin | MSameer: you were looking for 1+ | 10:56 |
| alin | MSameer: these guys claim to sell it http://www.eglobalcentral.eu/mobiles-and-tablets/mobile-phones/brands/oneplus/ | 10:57 |
| carepack | in october oneplus one accept pre-orders from everybody | 11:00 |
| carepack | http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/564536/20140830/oneplus-one.htm#.VA2L_XXzNhE | 11:01 |
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| carepack | or | 11:03 |
| carepack | https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/finally-invites-are-ending-pre-orders-begin-in-october.101582/ | 11:03 |
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| MSameer | alin: thanks but I got an invite already :) | 11:54 |
| alin | MSameer: cool | 11:54 |
| MSameer | 342 euros? I payed less than that for the phone + screen protector + shipping | 12:01 |
| MSameer | well, 10 euros less | 12:01 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | any strong kernel hacker here ? | 12:29 |
| phdeswer | dr_gogeta86: I would never claim such a title for myself but maybe I can help | 12:35 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i dunno why | 12:35 |
| dr_gogeta86 | one of my machines | 12:35 |
| dr_gogeta86 | same kernel ... same binaries | 12:35 |
| dr_gogeta86 | to allocate 1gb of ram | 12:35 |
| dr_gogeta86 | 3.68 second on first | 12:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | 0.68 second on the second | 12:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | the second is in production | 12:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | the first in single user mode | 12:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i've also runned | 12:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | dell system diagnosis | 12:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but no memory fault | 12:36 |
| phdeswer | dr_gogeta86: is that continously reproducable? | 12:39 |
| phdeswer | It might take longer if you have high memory fragmentation etc... | 12:39 |
| phdeswer | And are those machines similar enough? Same ram, cpu etc? | 12:40 |
| dr_gogeta86 | anytime same results | 12:41 |
| phdeswer | And the machines are the same? | 12:42 |
| dr_gogeta86 | yep | 13:02 |
| dr_gogeta86 | same mmap | 13:02 |
| dr_gogeta86 | same size | 13:02 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | 2.56 second against 0.6 | 13:02 |
| dr_gogeta86 | some memory fault occurs ? | 13:02 |
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| phdeswer | dr_gogeta86: that would be possible. Or slower memory settings (lower clock) | 13:09 |
| phdeswer | Or the userland is different enough to cause high memory fragmentation so the kernel needs to do more work to find the free memory | 13:10 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | phdeswer, i've used a live cd | 13:26 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and straced the same process but this time rhel 6 kernel take the half of time | 13:26 |
| dr_gogeta86 | mmap function | 13:26 |
| carepack | maybe test you're ram with memtest and do more than one cycle. If the ram have random errors you won't see them in only one cycle. And sometimes I've got the feelin that manufacturer diagnostics sometimes are not the best choice for this. But a feeling :-9 | 13:31 |
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| phdeswer | dr_gogeta86: well different mmap function would for sure explain, but you said same kernel.. | 13:46 |
| phdeswer | And the memtest suggestion is a good one | 13:46 |
| dr_gogeta86 | phdeswer, with different kernel works like a sharm | 13:47 |
| phdeswer | dr_gogeta86: weird.... | 13:47 |
| dr_gogeta86 | amongst kernel strace says same timing excpet the large mmap | 13:47 |
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| beidl | hello guys! | 14:55 |
| beidl | MSameer: ping | 14:55 |
| MSameer | beidl: pong | 14:56 |
| beidl | hey :D you told me to remind you about gstomx.conf | 14:56 |
| MSameer | heh | 14:57 |
| MSameer | is it today already ? :D | 14:57 |
| beidl | MSameer: :D oh and my phone is online as well, anything to pull'n'compile? :) | 14:57 |
| MSameer | not now. I am a bit busy at work :/ | 14:58 |
| beidl | MSameer: alright, whenever you got the time :) | 14:58 |
| beidl | I'm busy anyway, replacing my laptop HDD with an SSD | 14:59 |
| MSameer | good luck :) | 14:59 |
| beidl | MSameer: thanks, will need that for my arch+cryptsetup+bcache unfuckery :P | 15:00 |
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| beidl | it's so quiet here | 15:32 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i dunno | 15:34 |
| dr_gogeta86 | FYI a craft beer is the works for celebratin saifishos-porters .... it will a porter | 15:35 |
| dr_gogeta86 | if some one got some hints | 15:35 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | http://www.archos.com/it/products/smartphones/platinum/archos_45cplatinum/specs.html? | 15:36 |
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| alin | sledges: vgrade situ today I had a funny experience | 15:46 |
| alin | got the screen on | 15:46 |
| alin | but I could not do anything | 15:46 |
| alin | all I was seeing was the clock | 15:46 |
| alin | had to reboot the thing | 15:46 |
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| beidl | alin: swipe in from the bottom | 15:50 |
| sledges | alin: tried usb in? | 15:50 |
| alin | sledges: nope... I was in the kitchen... no usb there | 15:50 |
| alin | beidl: I will see next time I get it if | 15:50 |
| beidl | alin: it happens to me too, sometimes the notification area is overlayed transparently for no reason after unlock | 15:51 |
| sledges | "ghost" screen;) | 15:53 |
| beidl | sledges: yap :) | 15:59 |
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| lbt | I'm promoting sdk-setup package to mer-tools:testing now. It updates the mb2 code to better support spec parsing | 16:03 |
| lbt | please test and feedback any issues ASAP | 16:03 |
| Nokius | vgrade: Had my eyes on the Devices view over at cmwiki (less fulled at LunaOS) today so will try to unterstand it a bit better and maythen we can try to use it as well | 16:05 |
| lbt | Nokius: you mean the per-device templatey stuff ? | 16:07 |
| Nokius | lbt yeah all stuff behind devices (its use a bunch of templates) | 16:08 |
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| lbt | excellent - if you dig into it then please let me know how it works and how to maintain it | 16:08 |
| Nokius | lbt vgrade told a few weeks back that we may coud use this | 16:09 |
| lbt | yep, it would be rather good to do that | 16:09 |
| lbt | I've not had time to dig into it myself though | 16:09 |
| Nokius | lbt are you at xda:devcon may? makes a bit easy f2f | 16:10 |
| lbt | I am | 16:10 |
| Nokius | good | 16:10 |
| Nokius | had today a "durty" try will work it out a bit the coming days | 16:11 |
| Nokius | we show u the "nuggets" at devcon ^^ | 16:11 |
| lbt | *g* | 16:12 |
| Nokius | :) | 16:13 |
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| alin | lbt: how do you want to test | 16:19 |
| alin | lbt: rebuilding an image will suffice? | 16:19 |
| lbt | basically so long as mb2 build works that should be OK | 16:19 |
| lbt | mb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl -s rpm/droid-hal-$DEVICE.spec build | 16:20 |
| alin | lbt: without any other update? | 16:20 |
| lbt | yes | 16:20 |
| lbt | make sure it doesn't cause regressions | 16:20 |
| alin | lbt: ok... if you say so... just enter my mersdk and build the hal | 16:20 |
| lbt | I *think* the build of the .inc will fail now - but the .spec build should pull in the build deps | 16:21 |
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| sledges | alin: lbt: so .inc build is no longer needed? | 16:35 |
| alin | sledges: lbt ok.. it worked in the sense I managed to build an image | 16:36 |
| lbt | correct | 16:36 |
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| lbt | alin: any probs ? | 16:36 |
| alin | let me know of any signs | 16:36 |
| alin | lbt: not.. got my zip | 16:36 |
| alin | lbt: http://paste.opensuse.org/32214388 | 16:37 |
| lbt | sledges: you can remove some BR's from the target and ensure that building the .spec re-adds them | 16:37 |
| alin | lbt: if you see anything suspect or you want to test let me know | 16:37 |
| lbt | alin: it's a fairly innocuous change - just the spec parser bits | 16:38 |
| sledges | lbt: alin can achieve this by building from scratch using dmt_'s script build system | 16:38 |
| alin | sledges: yap... | 16:38 |
| lbt | sledges: fwiw you could do all that inside mb2 build now :) | 16:38 |
| lbt | including the ubu root install | 16:38 |
| alin | sledges: lbt so this is not needed anymore mb2 -t lge-hammerhead-armv7hl -s rpm/droid-hal-device.inc build | 16:39 |
| lbt | alin: hope not | 16:39 |
| alin | lbt: ok.. let us comment and test | 16:39 |
| lbt | (obviously when it gets promoted to stable; sledges we'll need a hadk update at that point) | 16:40 |
| * sledges nods | 16:40 | |
| sledges | we'll need a hadk update on other bits too;) namely droid-hal-version that im working on atm | 16:40 |
| sledges | and any other split-off packages | 16:40 |
| alin | truth moment | 16:40 |
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| alin | sledges: now if you update the guide | 16:42 |
| alin | MER_HA_VERSION="0.0.6.201408301530 (armv7hl,unknown)" | 16:42 |
| alin | can we replace that unknown with domething nice | 16:42 |
| sledges | yes, im working on -version package | 16:43 |
| sledges | will test what it yields, and if it's still unknown, will investigatge | 16:43 |
| sledges | wonder what's on sbj ;P | 16:43 |
| alin | lbt: ok it builds | 16:43 |
| alin | lbt: I wonder if I start a clean install with all these changed now | 16:43 |
| alin | changes now | 16:44 |
| alin | sledges: you can tell me is better to wait one or two days | 16:44 |
| alin | sledges: for the update storm | 16:44 |
| sledges | update storm has nothing to do with what we're talking about now;) | 16:45 |
| alin | sledges: yap I know... | 16:51 |
| alin | lbt: anyhow I removed the .inc build and seems to be nice and builds | 16:52 |
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| piggz | lo * | 17:16 |
| piggz | vgrade: how is sf on nexus 1? | 17:17 |
| lbt | sledges: I'm not liking the %if %{device} == hammerhead | 17:17 |
| lbt | oh, is it a Sage_ thing | 17:17 |
| lbt | the Provides: should be move-able into the per-device spec file | 17:18 |
| piggz | so ... i guess I am on my own doing kernel debugging on pmem for the ace, unless anyone else has experieince of android kernels and graphics drivers???? | 17:22 |
| lbt | sledges: https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/pull/55 comments ? | 17:25 |
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| beidl | uhhhh, dhd package building on OBS. | 17:33 |
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| beidl | lbt do you mind giving me maintainer status on nemo:devel:hw:maguro? :) | 17:37 |
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| vakkov | https://twitter.com/eugenio_g7/status/509025108401606658/photo/1 | 18:45 |
| vakkov | is it really needed? | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | tests always welcome | 18:46 |
| vakkov | i guess he has backported it? | 18:47 |
| vakkov | btw i recruited a friend of mine to port to the galaxy s+... since it has only 512 mb he might try that | 18:48 |
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| beidl | vakkov: nice, lets see how it goes :) | 19:14 |
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| lbt | beidl: what's the maguro vendor ? | 19:17 |
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| beidl | lbt: samsung | 19:18 |
| lbt | ok ... lessee | 19:18 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: can you look at pull/55 ^^ | 19:33 |
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| Stskeeps | url | 19:40 |
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| Sage_ | lbt: sry, but I have no idea any other way to do that thing than that atm. | 19:41 |
| Sage_ | improvements welcome | 19:42 |
| Sage_ | lbt: fwiw, I dont like it either :) | 19:42 |
| lbt | Sage_: OK - I'm thinking that we do something which depends on a define and set the define in the per-device spec | 19:44 |
| lbt | I'm quite happy that you just made it work and there's no problem improving it | 19:45 |
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| Sage_ | lbt: things need to work first before they can be improved ;) | 19:50 |
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| sledges | lbt: what does rpmlintrc do? unclear from PR | 19:52 |
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| sledges | otherwise lgtm | 19:53 |
| lbt | sledges: sorry - lost connection | 19:53 |
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| lbt | beidl: so .. I have your manifest in bug 729 but I need a git repo that git init can use | 20:18 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 729 in Hybris-ing "Maguro droid-hal-device packages for OBS hw repository" [Normal,Reopened] https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729 | 20:18 |
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| lbt | so you either need to get the repo for mer-hybris/android to accept a PR or, more quickly, clone and modify that git repo | 20:19 |
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| sledges | lbt: what does rpmlintrc do? unclear from PR | 20:21 |
| lbt | disables the rpm lint checking | 20:21 |
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| beidl | lbt: I'll clone it temporarily | 20:25 |
| beidl | lbt: yours on github? | 20:25 |
| lbt | clone mer-hybris one | 20:25 |
| lbt | hmm sec | 20:25 |
| lbt | yeah - mer-hybris one | 20:25 |
| beidl | lbt: I'm lost (multitasking, chatting with my brother) which repo are we talking about? | 20:27 |
| lbt | https://github.com/mer-hybris/android | 20:28 |
| lbt | pretty sure you'll replace default.xml | 20:28 |
| lbt | it should be very similar though | 20:28 |
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| beidl | lbt: https://github.com/beidl/android | 20:38 |
| lbt | ok | 20:38 |
| lbt | I'm not webhooking this yet - it's very expensive to run | 20:39 |
| lbt | hmm | 20:39 |
| lbt | the make command | 20:40 |
| lbt | make -j4 rfkill brcm_patchram_plus hybris-hal | 20:40 |
| beidl | lbt: rfkill is not needed anymore | 20:40 |
| sledges | lbt: so does this PR put requirement of having latest mb2 ? | 20:41 |
| lbt | ok - but the standard droid-hal-device just does make hybris-hal | 20:42 |
| lbt | yeah | 20:42 |
| * lbt is wondering how big an issue that is | 20:43 | |
| beidl | lbt: I don't want to waste your time, I can wait until you hooked it up as there are some new changes in the pipe, and I don't want to annoy you everytime there's a potential update | 20:43 |
| * lbt goes for the JFDI and fix it ASAP approach | 20:45 | |
| lbt | beidl: lets hack on dhd | 20:45 |
| lbt | are you likely to need more than just make hybris-hal | 20:45 |
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| lbt | sledges: I'm thinking that we can %define "hadk_make_target" | 20:46 |
| lbt | and override in droid-hal-maguro.spec | 20:46 |
| beidl | lbt: on the dhd side, there's only hybris-hal and brcm_patchram_plus. additional packages are rpm only (gstreamer, sensor packages) | 20:47 |
| lbt | 'only 1' is enough to break it :D | 20:48 |
| lbt | it also sounds like a reasonable thing to support | 20:48 |
| sledges | right | 20:51 |
| sledges | also do we sometimes lunch vs breakfast? | 20:51 |
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| beidl | I have already proposed to push a brcm_patchram_plus package to mer but yeah, there are only 2 consumers (maguro and I believe grouper) so I'm not sure if that would be a good compromise | 20:53 |
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| lbt | easy fix and conceptually makes sense that some devices will need device specific builds from the droid side | 20:54 |
| lbt | there's already a need for per-device %files handling which is very similar | 20:55 |
| beidl | lbt: true that | 20:55 |
| lbt | so hold on and I'll push some changes | 20:55 |
| lbt | just need to google some rpm magic | 20:55 |
| lbt | I'm thinking "make %{hadk_make_target:hybris-hal}" | 20:55 |
| beidl | lbt: make ssense | 21:01 |
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| lbt | make %{?hadk_make_target}%{!?hadk_make_target:hybris-hal}" | 21:01 |
| lbt | it's not like bash expansion :/ | 21:01 |
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| lbt | nor is it documented afaict | 21:01 |
| beidl | lbt: I got a lot of respect of anybody whos RPM knowledge exceeds simple conditionals :D | 21:04 |
| lbt | well - it's one of those things where using it is a sign that something is wrong ... | 21:05 |
| lbt | https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/pull/56 | 21:17 |
| lbt | beidl: take a look | 21:17 |
| lbt | sledges: if you're around | 21:17 |
| sledges | already clicked;) | 21:17 |
| beidl | lbt: LGTM | 21:21 |
| sledges | beidl: webui pls;P | 21:21 |
| sledges | wee! | 21:21 |
| beidl | sledges: already done ;P | 21:21 |
| beidl | popped my cherry, my first LGTM@mer-hybris | 21:22 |
| lbt | sledges: you can merge then | 21:22 |
| sledges | :D | 21:22 |
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| * lbt triggers the repo service on obs to use beidl's android repo | 21:24 | |
| * lbt things repo is rather overused | 21:24 | |
| lbt | k | 21:24 |
| beidl | lbt: should I remove other devices from the manifest? | 21:24 |
| lbt | too late :) | 21:24 |
| beidl | lbt: DAMNIT :P | 21:24 |
| lbt | I think we're going to end up with manifests per device which we can optimise | 21:25 |
| lbt | so it's worth doing, yes - but atm it's not going to hurt much | 21:26 |
| lbt | I have a super-magic manifest thing in the works anyhow | 21:26 |
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| beidl | lbt: alright, I'll make changes to the manifest now anyhow, that means if it's done pulling the manifest repo :) | 21:26 |
| lbt | yeah - don't push for a bit | 21:27 |
| beidl | lbt: ok :) | 21:27 |
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| beidl | lbt: how are things looking with maintainer status in the maguro OBS project? | 21:29 |
| beidl | lbt: should I sign an agreement to not overuse the build button? :P | 21:29 |
| lbt | haha | 21:30 |
| lbt | done | 21:33 |
| beidl | lbt: thank you very much :D | 21:34 |
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| lbt | I think the main thing you're going to need to do is run osc service remoterun when droid rebuild is needed | 21:35 |
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| lbt | it takes about 40mins to build the tarball and about an hour to build | 21:35 |
| lbt | it may be quicker now I prodded the -j | 21:35 |
| alin_ | lbt: osc service rr | 21:36 |
| lbt | yes | 21:36 |
| alin_ | lbt: also I think there is a flag that determines the maximum for -j | 21:36 |
| alin_ | lbt: let me see if I have it in any of my specs | 21:37 |
| lbt | David Greaves [all] Meke the OBS build use _smp_mflags macro (-j <n>) in make | 21:37 |
| lbt | that one? | 21:37 |
| sledges | the meke one;) | 21:37 |
| lbt | see https://github.com/lbt/droid-hal-device/commit/098cde11973724e5fe3ac33b39f1049bf936b4b4 | 21:37 |
| alin_ | lbt: yes the _smp_ ones | 21:38 |
| alin_ | lbt: %{?_smp_mflags} VERBOSE=1 | 21:38 |
| lbt | hah - the logfile is big enough as it is | 21:39 |
| alin_ | lbt: ok... we rely on verbose to parse rpmlint after | 21:40 |
| alin_ | anyhow is good | 21:40 |
| lbt | from Config import * | 21:40 |
| lbt | addFilter(".*") | 21:40 |
| lbt | *cough* | 21:40 |
| alin_ | lbt: anyhow once sledges cleans the manifest we shall be able to build all in obs | 21:40 |
| alin_ | lbt: I see no real barrier | 21:41 |
| lbt | alin_: no barrier? | 21:41 |
| alin_ | lbt: once the source is reduced to normal sizes | 21:42 |
| alin_ | lbt: and it does not take half a day to clone | 21:42 |
| alin_ | lbt: we can build the image on obs | 21:42 |
| lbt | which OBS ? | 21:42 |
| lbt | Mer one or another ? | 21:43 |
| lbt | I just (last couple of weeks) sorted out a 'repo' service for Mer OBS | 21:43 |
| lbt | which does the clone in a cached manner | 21:43 |
| * sledges cleans what?;) | 21:43 | |
| lbt | takes a few mins to check out and then 40mins to make a tarball of the checkout | 21:44 |
| lbt | I debated doing the repo sync from the builder but it would get too complex with transparent git proxy mess | 21:44 |
| lbt | in the end I went for an 'optimise later' approach :) | 21:44 |
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| beidl | lbt: what was the reason for the rebuild? | 22:06 |
| lbt | service failed | 22:06 |
| lbt | just watching it now | 22:07 |
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| beidl | if it fails again I'll push a modified manifest | 22:08 |
| beidl | just to make it not hurt as much watching it :) | 22:08 |
| beidl | lbt: also I assume the packages are suffixed with i486 because of the build environment but are actually arch armv7 | 22:11 |
| lbt | I knew I forgot something | 22:11 |
| beidl | :D | 22:12 |
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| beidl | lbt: should I update the manifest? I'm starting to believe the build error comes from a missing repo... | 22:33 |
| lbt | ok | 22:35 |
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| beidl | lbt: should I rebuild? | 22:45 |
| lbt | no | 22:45 |
| lbt | got a problem :/ | 22:45 |
| beidl | lbt: which problem? | 22:46 |
| lbt | internal obs thing which needs fixing | 22:46 |
| beidl | lbt: all I can say is: I can wait, no need to hurry :) | 22:48 |
| lbt | ok - I may sleep on it | 22:48 |
| beidl | sleep? never heard of that | 22:48 |
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| beidl | mentioning sleep, that's what I need now as well. | 22:51 |
| beidl | good night, porters! | 22:51 |
| lbt | g'night | 22:52 |
| sledges | n!n | 22:53 |
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| stephg | aaand good morning! | 23:01 |
| stephg | (boo everyone seems to have gone to bed, so I'll do the same) | 23:19 |
| borcean | night stephg :P | 23:20 |
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| Umeaboy | lbt: Hi! | 23:36 |
| Umeaboy | 'zup? | 23:37 |
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