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| Guhl | sledges, https://www.thinkthinkdo.com/g2ics/IMG_20140923_085525.jpg (done with an N7 - does not get any better) | 07:02 |
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| alin | Guhl: coool | 07:07 |
| Guhl | thanks - still a lot of work ahead though | 07:12 |
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| situ | This price tag should work. | 08:42 |
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| sledges | Guhl: do sensors work? | 09:17 |
| Guhl | not really tested yet | 09:20 |
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| Guhl | sledges, can the timeout for lipstick to come up be changed? | 09:22 |
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| sledges | Guhl: hmm, don't know. check listick.service. better to address the issue why | 09:34 |
| Guhl | of course - just wanted to check if it's really only taking to long to come up | 09:35 |
| Guhl | did you see the link of the new picture i posted? | 09:36 |
| sledges | yes. could you set ambience first? | 09:38 |
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| iuno | Hi guys! I need help on section 12.2... I somehow missed chapter 12 before :-/ | 09:39 |
| sledges | ideally, we'd have the phone locked in landscape, open messages and type like Hello world! | 09:39 |
| sledges | then take that Leica out;) | 09:39 |
| sledges | iuno: wassda prblem?:) | 09:40 |
| sledges | Guhl: the wooden background was superb! | 09:42 |
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| Guhl | sledges, k will do | 09:42 |
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| iuno | sledges: are the changes to bionic, busybox etc.. already done when using hybris-11? | 09:49 |
| iuno | (branch) | 09:50 |
| situ | iuno: Yep | 09:51 |
| sledges | iuno: yes | 09:51 |
| sledges | (by the guy who just answered;) | 09:51 |
| situ | :D | 09:52 |
| iuno | situ: sledges: hm ok thanks then it's alright ;) | 09:54 |
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| iuno | sledges: remember i had high cpu load? vgrade posted this: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos-porters/%23sailfishos-porters.2014-08-25.log.html#t2014-08-25T21:57:08 | 09:56 |
| iuno | i copied the files over to amami but it didn't help | 09:56 |
| Guhl | sledges, that picture will not be as perfect as you'd like it | 09:57 |
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| Guhl | cause Sailfish brings up the virtual keyboard too | 09:58 |
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| Guhl | sledges, how about that https://thinkthinkdo.com/g2ics/IMG_20140923_120317.jpg | 10:06 |
| Guhl | and btw. i could not do it with the Leica as i do not have w macro lens here with me so i used the N7 | 10:07 |
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| iuno | will test_gps come up with a position or something? | 10:36 |
| iuno | it sais ***tracking started, ***tracking, ***tracing, ***tracing etc... | 10:36 |
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| sledges | iuno: yes | 11:11 |
| sledges | iuno: which process high-loads cpu? | 11:11 |
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| phdeswer | iuno: eventually yes. It usually helps to be outside. Also if you have network/cellular data starting with -a might give you agps | 11:20 |
| iuno | phdeswer: i already tried outside | 11:27 |
| phdeswer | iuno: even then unassisted GPS can take 15-20min to lock | 11:28 |
| iuno | phdeswer: ok thanks. then i'll try this again | 11:28 |
| iuno | later... i have no laptop now | 11:29 |
| iuno | sledges: systemd-udevd (~30%) + a kworker (~10%) | 11:30 |
| sledges | iuno: udevd is a patch: | 11:32 |
| sledges | but it's for OMAP, i think we talked about it :) | 11:33 |
| sledges | https://github.com/beidl/systemd/commit/522dd6bd0a32c36d955ce0dc5d487c0794e68e97 | 11:34 |
| iuno | sledges: ty... yeah i don't remember everything, i'll have to read through the logs again | 11:35 |
| iuno | sledges: wifi not available in this stage? i could not find a suitable if | 11:35 |
| sledges | iuno: check how android handles it - firmware/kernel modules | 11:36 |
| sledges | blimey that Guhl's photo looks dam nice:) | 11:37 |
| sledges | https://twitter.com/sledgeSim/status/514383201041924096 | 12:01 |
| alin | sledges: I have a desires... we can spin | 12:07 |
| alin | now we have the andromadus patches under control | 12:07 |
| alin | I will speak with the boys what can be done | 12:07 |
| kjokinie1 | do you guys have some obs project for "generic" tools? Thinking about webhooking https://github.com/sailfishos/initrd-helpers | 12:08 |
| sledges | kjokinie1: but not yet integrated well.. https://build.merproject.org/project/show/nemo:devel:hw:android:common | 12:13 |
| kjokinie1 | hmm.. my scripts are not really related to android | 12:15 |
| sledges | yes, bad naming | 12:16 |
| sledges | is not finalised either | 12:16 |
| sledges | lemme dig logs abit.. | 12:16 |
| sledges | of what i talked with lbt concerning that | 12:16 |
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| kjokinie1 | sledges: well, I can hook that now to my home project I think.. generally one would hook that up to any adaptation project that actually needs them | 12:19 |
| kjokinie1 | just need it avaialable pre-built for kernel building instructions | 12:20 |
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| sledges | in that case it would go per-device, e.g.: https://build.merproject.org/project/show/nemo:devel:hw:lge:hammerhead (though we don't btrfs as you know;) | 12:22 |
| sledges | kjokinie1: ^ | 12:22 |
| kjokinie1 | sledges: yea, not needed there | 12:23 |
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| sledges | kjokinie1: ok let's stick with your home repo, until lbt comes back (he's got the powers to create projects under nemo:devel:hw ;) | 12:28 |
| * lbt is here but not talking :) | 12:28 | |
| lbt | what do you need? | 12:28 |
| lbt | generic tools | 12:29 |
| lbt | I'm really tempted to get rid of android:common and build against mer-tools | 12:29 |
| lbt | well, that is to say, move tools from there - any genuine common libs and on-device stuff should stay | 12:30 |
| sledges | android:common contains droid hal bits (see mce-plugin-hybris), but we discussed that common repo is a burden (split- and ssu -wise) | 12:30 |
| lbt | kjokinie1: ^ | 12:30 |
| kjokinie1 | lbt: was there some latency in mer-tools building packages? | 12:32 |
| lbt | kjokinie1: it has to go through our ad-hoc QA | 12:32 |
| sledges | hang on, isn't initrd-helpers going into device? (so not into mer-tools) | 12:33 |
| kjokinie1 | well, those scripts (or now only that one script) is meant to be added to init ramdisk, if you happen to need it. I use in jolla kernel this hw-ramdisk tools (based on moslo) to generate initrd and add files like the ones in initrd-helpers | 12:35 |
| sledges | ooh, adding inside ramdisk is via http://github.com/mer-hybris/hybris-boot | 12:36 |
| lbt | I've not looked at the code - just the "generic" tools note | 12:37 |
| lbt | yeah - so I have this guideline | 12:37 |
| lbt | stuff which goes into the boot images is developed in the android space | 12:37 |
| lbt | sledges: you're correct | 12:38 |
| * lbt goes to github | 12:38 | |
| lbt | hmm - I'm wondering about duplicating hybris-boot rather than extending it | 12:39 |
| sledges | o.O | 12:39 |
| lbt | but the android build side is such a mess | 12:39 |
| lbt | if we were doing clean rpms then I'd split them - but the pain and overhead ... | 12:40 |
| lbt | hybris-boot does already build the recovery image | 12:40 |
| lbt | and this would go in there | 12:40 |
| sledges | and if we have more tools to come? | 12:40 |
| lbt | https://github.com/mer-hybris/hybris-boot/blob/hybris-10.1/Android.mk | 12:41 |
| lbt | that would need to be modified to support any initrd-tools | 12:41 |
| sledges | certainly | 12:42 |
| lbt | so anytime you edited initrd tools you'd need to edit a makefile in another repo ... | 12:42 |
| lbt | ugh | 12:42 |
| lbt | or ... make the build system nice and reliably generic | 12:42 |
| lbt | (and port it to CM10.1 / 11...) | 12:42 |
| sledges | 8) | 12:43 |
| lbt | so ... that's what I'm thinking is painful | 12:43 |
| lbt | any test needs hacks PRs to 2 repos... | 12:43 |
| kjokinie1 | guys, you don't need to break you nice initrd system .. | 12:43 |
| kjokinie1 | "your" | 12:44 |
| lbt | kjokinie1: it's not a problem - we should support this kind of script | 12:44 |
| lbt | we need to do a better recovery system too | 12:44 |
| sledges | lbt: we might need two phase mb2: mb2 initrd-helpers (which puts itself cleverly inside initrd tree somewhere under out/); make hybris-hal; mb2 the rest | 12:45 |
| lbt | noooo | 12:45 |
| lbt | that's why it needs to be developed in android space | 12:45 |
| sledges | since next hadk rev will look like this: mb2 rpm/helpers/build_auxilliary_packages.sh, could do something similar if more than initrd-helpers come in future | 12:46 |
| sledges | well, dhd has local-repo | 12:46 |
| sledges | we can avoid out/ | 12:46 |
| sledges | and do merger | 12:46 |
| sledges | as i don't want to force creators of such tools like initrd-helpers to go android | 12:46 |
| lbt | why ? | 12:46 |
| sledges | because we're linux;) and keep it where possible | 12:47 |
| lbt | it runs inside the android initrd | 12:47 |
| sledges | I still didn'ลง get Android.mk :)) | 12:47 |
| sledges | well, it's android's busybox, yes.. | 12:47 |
| sledges | yet sbj has a linuxy recovery cmiiw | 12:47 |
| kjokinie1 | lbt: well, I remade the hw-ramdisk package into a toolset to generate ramdisks and add random tools and check automatically library depenencies and install those as well because I just needed btrfs in my ramdisk | 12:48 |
| kjokinie1 | but not sure if it could be utilized here | 12:49 |
| lbt | hmm | 12:49 |
| kjokinie1 | https://github.com/sailfishos/initrd-helpers | 12:49 |
| kjokinie1 | err.. | 12:50 |
| kjokinie1 | https://github.com/nemomobile/hw-ramdisk | 12:50 |
| kjokinie1 | it's basically moslo | 12:50 |
| kjokinie1 | but I just reduced the functionality a bit to make it bit more generic.. (I guess there were still some legacy kernel module checks from Nokia there..) | 12:51 |
| lbt | the problem is : $(MKBOOTIMG) --ramdisk $(RECOVERY_RAMDISK) $(HYBRIS_RECOVERYIMAGE_ARGS) $(BOARD_MKRECOVERYIMG_ARGS) --output $@ | 12:51 |
| lbt | we have(?) to run the mkbootimg in the droid build area (or we have to port all mkbootimg and variants to mer) | 12:52 |
| lbt | thinking about it I would like initrd to be glibc based so recovery can use the exact tools used on device | 12:52 |
| lbt | however, maybe sledges is right - maybe it has to be 2-phase | 12:53 |
| kjokinie1 | lbt: ahh, yes you need that specific version of mkbootimg | 12:53 |
| lbt | maybe we make a recovery initrd fs cpio image and drop it into the build root as a BR | 12:54 |
| sledges | lbt: and then mingle with it? | 12:54 |
| lbt | well - we define the initrd to be glibc | 12:54 |
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| lbt | and droid/bionic would be static | 12:55 |
| lbt | we'd get a cyclic build depend though | 12:55 |
| lbt | possibly | 12:55 |
| lbt | *if* recovery need hybris (eg for fancy graphics) | 12:55 |
| lbt | or any sensor or blah | 12:56 |
| lbt | then you'd be cyclic | 12:56 |
| lbt | or we do multiarch but one is bionic, one is glibc. Or we do static bionic | 12:56 |
| lbt | we could also merge initrd fs's | 12:57 |
| lbt | so build one in mer-side (for btrfs and other tools) and build one in droid (for bionic-specific stuff like bootloader menus) and merge them | 12:57 |
| lbt | thoughts? am I making sense? | 12:58 |
| sledges | or as you said: build bionic part, provide cpio image, in the mb2 phase unpack it and inject extra glibc bits | 12:58 |
| lbt | cpio is embedded in img which needs to be finalised in droid build | 12:59 |
| kjokinie1 | are you guys sure you can fit 2 c libraries to recovery partition? | 12:59 |
| sledges | i just don't know how bionic+glibc marriage'd go down | 12:59 |
| lbt | kjokinie1: probably | 12:59 |
| lbt | rpath | 13:00 |
| lbt | hell - we run mixed arch in sb2 and I did it by hand back in the day :D | 13:00 |
| sledges | :)) | 13:00 |
| lbt | it wasn't fun - but for a small but important space like initrd | 13:01 |
| lbt | "and kernel modules you picked with the -a option" | 13:06 |
| lbt | *twitch* | 13:06 |
| lbt | kjokinie1: I think you may need to split the functionality of hw-ramdisk | 13:06 |
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| kjokinie1 | lbt: yes, the interface is not the best in the world | 13:07 |
| lbt | hybris-boot is the owner of the img files and any mkbootimg commands. So it would be the place to support module selection/inclusion | 13:08 |
| kjokinie1 | lbt: what kind of split? | 13:08 |
| lbt | just ^ I think | 13:08 |
| kjokinie1 | lbt: if you run the tools in that package, you get to choose. | 13:09 |
| lbt | hw-ramdisk provides a filesystem - probably as a cpio, which droid-hal-device (the droid build) BRs against on a per-device basis | 13:09 |
| kjokinie1 | lbt: but the module inclusion thing could be made better, | 13:09 |
| lbt | I mean it can't run in that package | 13:09 |
| kjokinie1 | it don't have cpio? | 13:09 |
| lbt | it has to run in the droid img build (afaik the mkbootimg thing would be too hard to extract) | 13:09 |
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| lbt | erm - lets do a quick reset | 13:10 |
| kjokinie1 | hmm.. ok so it's the ubuntu chroot thing that has only adroid build env? | 13:10 |
| lbt | yes | 13:11 |
| lbt | 1) we need to provide recovery tools (btrfs) to go into an initrd | 13:11 |
| lbt | 2) mkbootimg has to run in the ubu root in dhd | 13:11 |
| lbt | 3) kernel is built in ubu root in dhd | 13:11 |
| lbt | actually the order is 1 3 2 | 13:12 |
| lbt | but anyhow - 1) makes use of hw-ramdisk | 13:12 |
| lbt | and may include initrd-helpers and other binaries (btrfs) and libs | 13:13 |
| lbt | so at that point 3) hasn't happened and you can't do module selection | 13:13 |
| lbt | so you need to take the module selection out of 1) and put it in 2) 2 is hybris-boot | 13:14 |
| lbt | I think | 13:14 |
| kjokinie1 | makes sense | 13:14 |
| lbt | phew | 13:14 |
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| kjokinie1 | lbt: ok | 13:17 |
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| energycsdx | hi guys | 14:08 |
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| energycsdx | who is expert in sensors? looks like sensors on my phone is working but only after i enable it in sysfs | 14:10 |
| energycsdx | how to instruct MCE enable it when needed? | 14:10 |
| spiiroin | energycsdx: which sensor? | 14:11 |
| energycsdx | accelerometer, proximity | 14:11 |
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| energycsdx | by default i see only touchscreen events in evdev_trace -t | 14:12 |
| spiiroin | energycsdx: actual sensor enable/disable goes via sensorfw | 14:12 |
| spiiroin | but mce can be told to use/not-use als/ps sensors | 14:12 |
| spiiroin | mcetool --set-als-mode=<enabled|disabled> --set-ps-mode=<enabled|disabled> | 14:13 |
| spiiroin | ... after that it depends on sensord working | 14:14 |
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| energycsdx | spiiroin: looks like it runs with default config | 14:18 |
| spiiroin | sensord? or mce? | 14:19 |
| energycsdx | sensord | 14:20 |
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| energycsdx | i think i have hybris-libsensorfw-qt5 missign | 14:22 |
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| energycsdx | spiiroin: is hybris-libsensorfw-qt5 package mandatory, in sensor mostly is evdev devices, can i configure sensord to you input devices directly? | 14:30 |
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| spiiroin | energycsdx: I just use sensorfw, lpotter might be able to help with configuring sensord side ... | 14:31 |
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| sledges | energycsdx: all devices ported to-date use hybris-libsensorfw-qt5 | 16:08 |
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| sledges | Guhl_: o/ | 17:22 |
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| sledges | just wanted to share the reach your photo gained in SoMes ;) | 17:27 |
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| piggz | Guhl: any more progress today? | 18:16 |
| piggz | sledges: battery_monitor doesnt exist for me | 18:22 |
| sledges | piggz: details?:) | 18:30 |
| piggz | seems dbus-x11 ist brought in automatically but needed for dbus-launch (needed for /usr/bin/qmf-accountscheck) | 18:30 |
| piggz | sledges: im looking at failed services. http://pastebin.com/3TL5kBcN | 18:31 |
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| stephg | good evening my porticles | 18:43 |
| piggz | looks to me like messageserver5 service is broken | 18:46 |
| piggz | sh-3.2# dbus-launch --autolaunch=523d551234e1f83f1ee958af541bc15a --binary-syntax --close-stderr | 18:46 |
| piggz | Autolaunch requested, but X11 support not compiled in. | 18:46 |
| piggz | Cannot continue. | 18:46 |
| Guhl | piggz have been working this afternoon | 18:48 |
| Guhl | so nothing new on the phone | 18:48 |
| Guhl | i changed kernel to our 4.4 again that is missing the pmem patch | 18:49 |
| Guhl | so apps don't start | 18:50 |
| Guhl | i hope that i still got time tonight | 18:50 |
| piggz | Guhl: dont call it the pmem patch..call it the pmem-abomonation-hack | 18:57 |
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| sledges | Guhl: massive success on SoMe, with main article pointing to http://bit.ly/port-news | 19:01 |
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| alin | hi | 19:20 |
| piggz | how the hell do i go about testing/configuring pulseaudio | 19:21 |
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| alin | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_PulseAudio_problems | 19:26 |
| alin | piggz: ^ | 19:26 |
| sledges | piggz: jusa_ and pactl pamon ;) | 19:28 |
| alin | sledges: will be a september update? | 19:31 |
| lpotter | energycsdx: I'm sensors guy. It should be possible to use sensorfw configured for evdev, yes. | 19:34 |
| lpotter | but it would be easier to just use hybris | 19:34 |
| lpotter | as long as you have android's sensord | 19:34 |
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| alin | lpotter: so... anything new on n5 sensors? | 19:37 |
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| Guhl99 | piggz, cool stuff (but ignore my ignorance what is SoMe - i might guess social media) | 20:05 |
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| sledges | Guhl99: yes | 20:23 |
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| piggz | does this mean anything to anyone? http://pastebin.com/LUAFhj8g | 20:30 |
| sledges | jusa_: ^ | 20:33 |
| sledges | but what i suggest: start simple: see how pa is started via systemd (it's as user btw!), hardmask it/stop it, and launch the same cmdline | 20:34 |
| sledges | without -n, so it doesn't fork | 20:34 |
| piggz | sledges: it just starts with --start ... however it starts 5 times????? | 20:36 |
| jusa_ | piggz: you'll need configs that use pulseaudio-modules-droid | 20:37 |
| jusa_ | piggz: take a look here for idea: https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/tree/hybris-10.1/device-lge-hammerhead-configs | 20:38 |
| piggz | jusa_: ok, so thats the files i see in the droid-hal packages | 20:38 |
| piggz | yes, them | 20:39 |
| piggz | the 2 ive seen seem the same | 20:39 |
| piggz | jusa_: does it need a special name? | 20:39 |
| alin_ | ok... i have pulseaudio at 20% fro cpu | 20:41 |
| jusa_ | piggz: pulse config can be "whatever", but it's defined here: https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/blob/hybris-10.1/device-lge-hammerhead-configs/etc/sysconfig/pulseaudio | 20:43 |
| piggz | jusa_:cool, i c | 20:43 |
| piggz | jusa_: i now get: | 20:47 |
| piggz | E: [pulseaudio] droid-util.c: Unknown entry AUDIO_FORMAT_EVRC | 20:47 |
| piggz | E: [pulseaudio] droid-util.c: Failed to parse configuration from /system/etc/audio_policy.conf | 20:47 |
| piggz | E: [pulseaudio] module.c: Failed to load module "module-droid-card" (argument: "rate=48000 mute_routing_before=24576 mute_routing_after=4096"): initialization failed. | 20:47 |
| piggz | E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Module load failed. | 20:47 |
| piggz | E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to initialize daemon. | 20:47 |
| jusa_ | yes. so you have android hal which has something we haven't seen before | 20:47 |
| jusa_ | as a workaround for now remove that mention of AUDIO_FORMAT_EVRC from /system/etc/audio_policy.conf , if possible | 20:48 |
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| piggz | jusa_: now ive got http://pastebin.com/MnuiiwGx | 20:52 |
| piggz | i also removed the format QCELP | 20:53 |
| jusa_ | piggz: yep. now we are crashing because the audio hal headers used to build the modules don't match the hal version you have (likely) | 20:55 |
| jusa_ | iirc I made a patch to not segfault if output stream doesn't open, but maybe I forgot to push it..anyway this requires code changes | 20:57 |
| piggz | jusa_: well if you get soemthng, i can test it ;) | 20:58 |
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| jusa_ | piggz: can you upload hardware/...foo.../audio.h and system/...foo.../audio.h from your droid-headers ? (I'm not sure I remember 100% if that's all, I'm on my way to sleep) | 21:02 |
| jusa_ | I'll check that tomorrow | 21:03 |
| jusa_ | (and I *really* should write all this to hadk) | 21:03 |
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| sledges | jusa_: im working on hadk rev3, out soon | 21:07 |
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