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| Umeaboy | Hi! | 04:21 |
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| Umeaboy | I'm not sure as to what I should change THIS line to: | 04:21 |
| Umeaboy | --baseurl=$MOBS_URI/sailfishos:/devel:/hw:/$DEVICE/sailfish_latest_@ARCH@/" | 04:21 |
| Umeaboy | It says in the HADK: Feel free to replace sailfishos:/devel:/hw: with path to any suitable HA repo within Mer | 04:22 |
| Umeaboy | OBS. | 04:22 |
| Umeaboy | So that's why I'm asking. | 04:22 |
| Umeaboy | Change /devel to /latest? | 04:23 |
| Umeaboy | sledges? | 04:24 |
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| Guhl99 | hi i would have a build question | 11:29 |
| Guhl99 | i want to build sensorfw and cloned it from github | 11:30 |
| Guhl99 | when i try to buidl it using | 11:30 |
| Guhl99 | mb2 -s rpm/sensorfw.spec -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl build | 11:30 |
| Guhl99 | i get the message | 11:31 |
| Guhl99 | No provider of 'pkgconfig(contextprovider-1.0)' found. | 11:31 |
| Guhl99 | how would i install that? | 11:31 |
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| Guhl99 | i think the package providing it is contextkit-devel | 11:32 |
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| Guhl99 | but i have no idea how to install that for the sb2 target | 11:32 |
| energycsdx | sb2 -t $VENDOR-$DEVICE-armv7hl -R -m sdk-install zypper in contextkit-devel | 11:34 |
| energycsdx | Guhl99 | 11:34 |
| Guhl99 | ok so at least i am not totally stupid :-) I already tried that and it ends in | 11:35 |
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| Guhl99 | 'contextkit-devel' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. | 11:35 |
| Guhl99 | No provider of 'contextkit-devel' found. | 11:35 |
| rusty88 | morning guys | 11:37 |
| rusty88 | hey Guhl99 I already have the libril with debuggin on | 11:39 |
| Guhl99 | but energycsdx maybe thats got other problems too cause when i install contextkit-devel locally it installs a whole lot of QT4 stuff | 11:39 |
| Guhl99 | and also when i comment the BuildRequires: pkgconfig(contextprovider-1.0) in the spec and try to build it | 11:40 |
| Guhl99 | it says things like export QT_SELECT=4 | 11:40 |
| energycsdx | i think you should build rpm/sensorfw-qt5-hybris.spec | 11:40 |
| Guhl99 | so maybe this is not really the right spec | 11:41 |
| Guhl99 | aha | 11:41 |
| Guhl99 | energycsdx, yes that looks a lot better | 11:42 |
| rusty88 | heyy spiiroin i've flashed the latest update of sailfish os and the led is still not breathing, when you have time ping me :) | 11:42 |
| Guhl99 | rusty88, do you already have logcat form the action that does not work on your phone? | 11:42 |
| Guhl99 | what was that btw ? | 11:42 |
| energycsdx | btw what is led breathing? | 11:43 |
| Guhl99 | energycsdx, it's a "breathing" type of blinking | 11:43 |
| Guhl99 | fading in and out | 11:43 |
| rusty88 | energycsdx: i guess is the smooth transition of the led, instead of just blinking | 11:44 |
| rusty88 | exactly how Guhl99 describe it :P | 11:44 |
| Guhl99 | very cpu intensive if not supported by hardware | 11:44 |
| rusty88 | Guhl99: i led the log cat running and tried to make a call but nothing apprear on the logcat | 11:45 |
| energycsdx | Guhl99: hopefully it is supported by my kernel | 11:45 |
| energycsdx | Guhl99: if you have quallcomm hw you can try to merge it | 11:46 |
| Guhl99 | energycsdx, i can merge what ? | 11:47 |
| energycsdx | smooth led fadeout | 11:47 |
| Guhl99 | i did not even test spiiroins led stuff that he did for the vision | 11:48 |
| Guhl99 | rusty88, the logcat -b radio is normally very full even if nothing happens | 11:48 |
| Guhl99 | so if there is nothing in your logcat at all there might be a different problem | 11:49 |
| rusty88 | Guhl99: ahh yes logcat has lots of stuff | 11:49 |
| Guhl99 | rusty88, do you run ofonod from the command line or as a service | 11:50 |
| Guhl99 | energycsdx, the hybris-libsensorfw-qt5 packages where built successfully | 11:51 |
| Guhl99 | now i can start messing around with hybrisproximityadaptor | 11:52 |
| Guhl99 | energycsdx, is there any other good way on how to test a evdev device? | 11:53 |
| Guhl99 | rusty88, i'll do a logcat and ofonod output from my phone on an incomming call so you have a reference | 11:54 |
| energycsdx | usually sensor should be enabled somehow, hybris-libsensorfw-qt5 handles this, so you should install it, restart sensord, and test proximity sensor | 11:57 |
| Guhl99 | rusty88, this is how to start ofonod on the cli and it's output on an incomming call | 12:03 |
| Guhl99 | http://pastebin.com/0L2WFFZ3 | 12:03 |
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| rusty88 | sorry Guhl99 i has afk., back now | 12:05 |
| rusty88 | Guhl99: ofonod is running as a service | 12:05 |
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| Guhl99 | stop it and run it from the cli | 12:05 |
| rusty88 | ok, should I add the debugging to ofonod too? | 12:06 |
| Guhl99 | this is my logcat -b radio http://pastebin.com/HYw9gkgZ | 12:08 |
| rusty88 | ahh ok I got the same message from when i started debugging ofono | 12:09 |
| Guhl99 | as shown in my first pastebin you should start ofonod with the -d parameter for debug output | 12:09 |
| rusty88 | Guhl99: when i try ot make a phonecall ofono says this: ofonod[3484]: drivers/rilmodem/rilutil.c:ril_util_parse_reg() Size of response array is too small: 3 | 12:09 |
| rusty88 | and from the source code the array should be 4 for voice | 12:10 |
| Guhl99 | so your problem is incoming and outgoing calls? | 12:11 |
| rusty88 | no, just with outgoing calls and outgoing sms | 12:11 |
| rusty88 | incoming calls and sms are working fine | 12:11 |
| energycsdx | Guhl99 do you have sensors working? | 12:12 |
| Guhl99 | energycsdx, all but proximity and light | 12:12 |
| energycsdx | i.e. accelerometr gyroscope magnetometr | 12:14 |
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| Guhl99 | acceleration, magneto, compass | 12:14 |
| Guhl99 | are working and i am not sure if i have a gyroscope | 12:14 |
| Guhl99 | rotation works | 12:14 |
| Guhl99 | rusty88, did you already run that in gdb? | 12:16 |
| Guhl99 | you will have to look at the parcel that is actually sent | 12:17 |
| Guhl99 | that ofono code has a lot of assumptions implemented that are only valid for a certain RIL version | 12:18 |
| rusty88 | Guhl99: I haven't | 12:18 |
| rusty88 | hmm ok i try to running it | 12:18 |
| Guhl99 | well for me it was easier to run it on gdbserver on the phone | 12:19 |
| Guhl99 | and remote debug it from the pc but thats only because i like the graphical interface of ddd more | 12:19 |
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| Guhl99 | but you can do it directly on the cli itself also | 12:20 |
| rusty88 | Guhl99: ok | 12:20 |
| Guhl99 | if you want to debug it on the phone with gdb you also need to install the package containing the debug-symbols and the source | 12:21 |
| Guhl99 | i forgot the naming convention of that again but energycsdx will know | 12:22 |
| rusty88 | Guhl99: ofono-debuginfo and ofono-debugsource ? | 12:23 |
| Guhl99 | probably | 12:23 |
| Guhl99 | but as you will have to change it anyway you might want to fork the ofono package already | 12:23 |
| Guhl99 | and build it your own | 12:23 |
| Guhl99 | and then remote debugging is handier | 12:24 |
| rusty88 | ok thanks | 12:25 |
| Guhl99 | rusty88, and when building yourself you have to do some changes so that it is built without optimization | 12:26 |
| Guhl99 | (it's not funny to debug things if half of the stuff has been optimized out) | 12:26 |
| Guhl99 | and to prevent that the debug-symbols will get striped | 12:27 |
| Guhl99 | i will try to document what it did and send you the link | 12:27 |
| rusty88 | ok i would appreciate it, i already had a copy of the source code from github but haven't compiled it yet | 12:28 |
| Guhl99 | give me 10 minutes | 12:30 |
| rusty88 | sure not problem ;), i'm not going to do it today.. i'm finishing my masters dissertation :P | 12:31 |
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| rusty88 | btw is anyone experiencing apps crashing with segfault after opening more than 4 apps ? | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | device, gpu, sailfish version | 12:50 |
| rusty88 | i9300, Mali-400 , 1.1.0.38 (ditto with the previous version) | 12:51 |
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| Stskeeps | amount of ram? | 12:51 |
| rusty88 | Stskeeps: this is what valgrind said http://paste.fedoraproject.org/145298/14327912 | 12:52 |
| rusty88 | Stskeeps: 1GB | 12:52 |
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| Guhl99 | rusty88, this is my notes https://www.thinkthinkdo.com/trac/project1/wiki/Build_Debug | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | looks oom ish? | 12:56 |
| Guhl99 | rusty88, the gdbserver is attached to https://www.thinkthinkdo.com/trac/project1/wiki/gdb_remote | 12:56 |
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| rusty88 | Stskeeps: what do you mean? | 12:57 |
| Guhl99 | i need to run now (kids want to go to the park) - back later | 12:57 |
| rusty88 | thanks Guhl99 ;) i'll check it out later | 12:57 |
| rusty88 | bye ;) | 12:57 |
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| piggz | morning guys | 13:15 |
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| energycsdx | piggz: 15:39 now | 13:39 |
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| piggz | energycsdx: 13:40 here :) | 13:41 |
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| piggz | locusf: ping | 14:20 |
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| sledges | I'm in | 14:35 |
| marxistvegan | sledges: that you are :) | 14:35 |
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| piggz | sledges: | 14:56 |
| piggz | https://twitter.com/adampigg/status/526386356566904832 | 14:56 |
| sledges | haha brilliant :) | 14:57 |
| sledges | RTed | 14:57 |
| piggz | :) | 14:57 |
| piggz | i got your RT first on my watch | 14:57 |
| sledges | good idea to IMEI publicly? ;) | 14:58 |
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| piggz | sledges: meh :) | 15:01 |
| sledges | :) | 15:01 |
| sledges | piggz: which watch? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mIEsNAZMKc | 15:09 |
| piggz | sledges: pebble | 15:09 |
| sledges | night watch? | 15:09 |
| sledges | sailfish on? ;) | 15:10 |
| piggz | sledges: no :) | 15:18 |
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| vakkov | okay, for two days i am trying to build a 1.1.0.39 image and nobody helps :X | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | its weekend | 15:19 |
| rusty88 | hey vakkov what's your issues? | 15:19 |
| rusty88 | do you have the scratchbox updated? | 15:19 |
| piggz | vakkov: ha, I did it ;) | 15:20 |
| rusty88 | vakkov: first you need to upgrade your target (scratchbox) so that the qt5.2 packages are there, then tell the scratchbox the version is the 1.1.0.38 with this command "sb2 -t ... -R -m sdk-install ssu release 1.1.0.38" | 15:23 |
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| piggz | rusty88: i hope its not that easy! i created a new target for mer-latest | 15:25 |
| rusty88 | piggz: i updated my target | 15:27 |
| rusty88 | just as energycsdx suggested :P | 15:27 |
| piggz | i did what locusf sugested ;) | 15:27 |
| rusty88 | energycsdx: sugested both if i'm not mistaken.. but the update of the target seemed far less painful | 15:28 |
| piggz | yes, likely :) | 15:29 |
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| rusty88 | ahaha piggz I've also tweeted mine :P https://twitter.com/ipegoraro/status/526407752999256064 | 16:21 |
| piggz | rusty88: coolio | 16:22 |
| locusf | piggz: pong | 16:22 |
| piggz | locusf: i was gonna say i was having trouble, but i got it to work https://twitter.com/adampigg/status/526386356566904832 | 16:23 |
| ParkerR | rusty88, How much is running? | 16:23 |
| locusf | piggz: cool :) | 16:24 |
| rusty88 | ParkerR: what do you mean? if its running smoothly ? | 16:24 |
| ParkerR | rusty88, I just mean some prots I've seen have rought edges. Was just curious as to how ti was running | 16:25 |
| ParkerR | *ports | 16:25 |
| ParkerR | *rough | 16:25 |
| rusty88 | ParkerR: still not ready for daily use, wifi is working (detects networks but can connect), running more than 4 apps others start to segfault | 16:26 |
| rusty88 | other than that is a working progress :) | 16:26 |
| ParkerR | Nice | 16:27 |
| vakkov | my problem is qtscenegraph; rusty88 piggz | 16:32 |
| vakkov | nothing provides it, i m trying to build it from gihub but it has problems with deps | 16:33 |
| piggz | vakkov: yeah, i had that, you have to rebuild your local rpms | 16:33 |
| piggz | you dont need it think | 16:34 |
| rusty88 | i was able to build it | 16:34 |
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| vakkov | i did rebuild the rpms and i regenerated patterns before starting mic | 16:44 |
| rusty88 | so qtscenegraph is compiled and in the droid-local-repo and when you run mic still complains that nothing provides it, is that it? | 16:53 |
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| vakkov | no, it doesnt get compiled | 17:08 |
| locusf | can you show the errors with dependencies? | 17:09 |
| vakkov | at first it had problems with qt5-qtdeclarative | 17:10 |
| vakkov | and some other qt5 packages | 17:10 |
| vakkov | i forced installed them | 17:10 |
| vakkov | and it started compiling | 17:10 |
| vakkov | but - /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: cannot find -lQt5Quick | 17:10 |
| vakkov | /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: cannot find -lQt5Qml | 17:10 |
| vakkov | although i do have libQt5Quick.so and libQt5Quick.so.5 and libQt5Quick.so5.1 | 17:11 |
| vakkov | the same is for qt5qml | 17:11 |
| locusf | hmm | 17:12 |
| locusf | in target? | 17:12 |
| vakkov | yep, they are in the target | 17:13 |
| vakkov | samsung-maguro-armv7hl | 17:13 |
| vakkov | i think i'll just set up a new target and follow the hadk ,, | 17:13 |
| locusf | this would require a manual run of gcc -vvv | 17:14 |
| locusf | to be sure on what goes wrong | 17:14 |
| locusf | or try this: http://www.bnikolic.co.uk/blog/linux-ld-debug.html | 17:15 |
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| locusf | are the repos open for 1.1.0.39? | 17:27 |
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| Stskeeps | shouldn't be especially blocked | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | waste of effort to guard them off | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:59 |
| locusf | okay :) | 18:01 |
| locusf | I was thinking rather on n9 when asked, but shouldn't be more of an effort than just replacing version numbers in .ks | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | just don't publish it as a official version, IMHO | 18:05 |
| Stskeeps | it's opt-in for a reason | 18:06 |
| locusf | okay | 18:06 |
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| piggz | locusf: yeah, im running .39 | 18:10 |
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| Guhl99 | piggz, any news besides the .39 stuff? | 19:25 |
| Guhl99 | while there is still some room for improvement on the ril stuff it works for me so i'll leave it for the moment | 19:28 |
| piggz | Guhl99: nope ... are your rpms updated or the same as i downloaded? | 19:28 |
| Guhl99 | i'll work on proximity now to make phone calls usable | 19:28 |
| Guhl99 | the ofono-1.14+guhl01 is up to date | 19:29 |
| Guhl99 | i just changed something on the ofono.spec (not pushed to git yet) to solve the owner problem of /var/lib/ofono | 19:31 |
| Guhl99 | but if you install the rpm directly on the phone you wont have that problem | 19:31 |
| Guhl99 | it's only a problem to build the image with correct owner in mic | 19:32 |
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| piggz | Guhl99:great | 19:39 |
| Guhl99 | looking forward to see if it works on the ace too | 19:44 |
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| piggz | my 1.1 image is uploading to devaamo | 20:11 |
| piggz | Guhl99: ofono from sf 1.1 is 1.15 | 20:13 |
| Guhl99 | well then somebody pumped the version but thats not on github yet | 20:14 |
| Guhl99 | https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/ofono/blob/master/rpm/ofono.spec | 20:14 |
| Guhl99 | force uninstall it and reinstall my 1.14 | 20:15 |
| piggz | Guhl99: zypper resolved it ok | 20:17 |
| piggz | Guhl99: http://pastebin.com/GYRbGET5 | 20:19 |
| Guhl99 | piggz, can you please stop the ofono service and run it from cli | 20:21 |
| Guhl99 | like: | 20:21 |
| Guhl99 | export OFONO_ARGS=--noplugin=he910,dun_gw_bluez5,hfp_bluez5,hfp_ag_bluez5,cdma_provision,bluez5,isimodem,n900,u8500,qmimodem,gobi,cdmamodem,isiusb,nwmodem,ztemodem,iceramodem,huaweimodem,calypsomodem,swmodem,mbmmodem,hsomodem,ifxmodem,stemodem,dunmodem,hfpmodem,speedupmodem,phonesim | 20:21 |
| Guhl99 | /usr/sbin/ofonod -n -d $OFONO_ARGS | 20:22 |
| piggz | Guhl99: http://pastebin.com/ivwvhJV1 | 20:24 |
| Guhl99 | well, it would have been to nice if it just would have worked | 20:27 |
| piggz | Guhl99: :) | 20:27 |
| Guhl99 | can you please upload your /system/lib/libhtc_ril.so somewhere for me | 20:28 |
| Guhl99 | i am very sure that our modems are the same, so it is probably the differences in the htc ril library that we are using | 20:29 |
| Guhl99 | i'll debug with your lib installed | 20:29 |
| Guhl99 | regarding the proximity sensor the sensor is initialized correctly but it's value is read as 0 | 20:31 |
| Guhl99 | [D] HybrisProximityAdaptor::sendInitialData:71 - Guhl: HybrisProximityAdaptor sendInitialData found proximity device | 20:32 |
| Guhl99 | [D] HybrisProximityAdaptor::sendInitialData:86 - Guhl: HybrisProximityAdaptor sendInitialData inputDev.toLatin1()= "/dev/input/event2" | 20:32 |
| Guhl99 | [D] HybrisProximityAdaptor::sendInitialData:90 - Guhl: HybrisProximityAdaptor sendInitialData absinfo.value= 0 | 20:32 |
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| Umeaboy | Hi! I just found a promising brand to port Sailfish to. ;) | 20:35 |
| Umeaboy | Anybody that knows about Wiko? | 20:35 |
| energycsdx | Umeaboy: unknow SoC and GPU | 20:40 |
| Umeaboy | energycsdx: MediaTek MT6592M | 20:46 |
| Umeaboy | For the SoC. | 20:46 |
| Umeaboy | ARM Mali-450 MP4, 500 Mhz, Cores: 4 for the GPU. | 20:47 |
| Umeaboy | So what else do you need to know? | 20:47 |
| Umeaboy | :) | 20:47 |
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| Umeaboy | You went quiet. :) | 20:50 |
| energycsdx | see nothing special in this brand | 20:51 |
| Guhl99 | piggz, do we know for sure that the proximity sensor worked in cm10.1? | 20:54 |
| Umeaboy | energycsdx: Screen resolution and camera seems to be awesome. | 21:00 |
| Umeaboy | 1920x1080 pixles in screen resolution and 16 Megapixels in the camera lens. ;) | 21:01 |
| piggz | Guhl99: http://piggz.co.uk/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=0281436046f7f1962bfb69d93989aa19 | 21:01 |
| Umeaboy | Double SIM-card capability. | 21:01 |
| Umeaboy | Do "we" have support for Double SIM-cards? | 21:02 |
| Umeaboy | And in we of course I mean the Sailfish OS. | 21:02 |
| piggz | Guhl99: i dont know for sure, but im using the cm11 kernel, and cm11 seems well supported on the ace | 21:06 |
| energycsdx | Umeaboy: it is just one of thousands chineses phones | 21:07 |
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| Guhl99 | piggz, i am also using the CM-11 kernel but i could not remember that we changed anything regarding the sensors in kernel from CM10 to 11 | 21:08 |
| Umeaboy | energycsdx: Actually it's French. | 21:08 |
| Umeaboy | ;) | 21:08 |
| Guhl99 | well the thing is i see a value of 0 in the HybrisProximityAdaptor and i see nothing in the kmsg regarding the prox sensor | 21:09 |
| Guhl99 | (while i see everything there regarding things like light sensor and rotation | 21:09 |
| energycsdx | Umeaboy: French is only marketing | 21:10 |
| energycsdx | Umeaboy: http://world.wikomobile.com/m341-GETAWAY http://explay-mobile.ru/products/smartphones/neo | 21:11 |
| piggz | Guhl99: see /sys/class/optical_sensors/proximity/ | 21:15 |
| piggz | afk | 21:15 |
| Guhl99 | i don't have that | 21:17 |
| Guhl99 | piggz, at least according to my board-vision the vision should have a capella cm3602 | 21:27 |
| Guhl99 | and it's driver says that it's reporting in the style of [PS][CM3602] x | 21:28 |
| Guhl99 | but i do have no such messages in the kmsg | 21:29 |
| Guhl99 | well thats not true i do have messages like | 21:29 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1150.831390] [PS][CM3602] capella_cm3602_disable | 21:30 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1150.832122] [PS][CM3602] capella_cm3602_disable: already disabled | 21:30 |
| Guhl99 | and when enabling the sensors i do have | 21:31 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1767.628204] [LS][CM3602] lightsensor_ioctl: get enabled status: 0 | 21:32 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1767.781494] [COMP] Compass enable | 21:32 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1767.785186] [COMP] Compass disable | 21:32 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1767.799133] [COMP][AKM8975] AKECS_GetCloseStatus: | 21:32 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1767.811431] [GSNR] Gsensor enable | 21:32 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1767.824615] [GSNR] Gsensor disable | 21:32 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1767.852416] [LS][CM3602] lightsensor_ioctl: set value = 1 | 21:32 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1767.852630] [LS][CM3602] lightsensor_enable | 21:32 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1767.879516] [LS][CM3602] ALS value: 0x1, level: 0 # | 21:32 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1767.929992] [COMP] Compass enable | 21:32 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1768.148193] [COMP][AKM8975] AKECS_GetOpenStatus: | 21:32 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1768.165863] [COMP][AKM8975] AKECS_GetCloseStatus: | 21:32 |
| Guhl99 | [ 1768.168365] [GSNR] Gsensor enable | 21:32 |
| Guhl99 | but no enable messages for the PS | 21:32 |
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| Sailor6717 | hi. i have an issue with playing mp3's | 21:43 |
| Sailor6717 | i installed codec and it said that “gst fluendo...etc” not found in package names. no provider found etc | 21:45 |
| Sailor6717 | after that, i did get sound playing through jolla store youtube client app (though buggy). but i have downloaded mp3 in media app and it wont play | 21:46 |
| Umeaboy | Sailor6717: For which brand and modelname= | 21:50 |
| Umeaboy | ? | 21:50 |
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| DrTechenstein | this is drtechenstein. soery i got disconnected | 21:55 |
| DrTechenstein | any advice? | 21:56 |
| stephg | DrTechenstein: you said N4 elsewhere right? | 21:56 |
| DrTechenstein | yes | 21:56 |
| DrTechenstein | i have a nexus 4, yes | 21:58 |
| DrTechenstein | got the instructions from here | 22:00 |
| DrTechenstein | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51984334&postcount=1 | 22:00 |
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| Guhl99 | piggz, still here? | 22:23 |
| Guhl99 | piggz, can you please try https://www.thinkthinkdo.com/g2ics/libhtc_ril.so.vision on your phone? | 22:29 |
| Guhl99 | download it and copy it to /system/lib/libhtc_ril.so (after mounting system rw) | 22:30 |
| Guhl99 | then kill the rild process to make it reload and use this ril library | 22:31 |
| Guhl99 | i will try to make yours work but for some reason it is receiving the wrong auth-type | 22:31 |
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| Guhl99 | well enough fruitless stuff for tonight -- good night | 23:08 |
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