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| vakkov | is there somebody who knows the OBS here | 00:45 |
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| vakkov | i need to specify the spec file that has to be used. otherwise it does not merge the sources from github | 00:45 |
| vakkov | whatever.. i just deleted one of the specs :D | 00:53 |
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| vakkov | ok | 01:18 |
| vakkov | galaxy nexus is also updated | 01:18 |
| vakkov | beidl: it didnt freeze when i set an ambiance | 01:22 |
| vakkov | has your fix been merged? | 01:22 |
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| vakkov | piggz: lol, our phones have the same mac address with that update | 01:26 |
| vakkov | but why is my sailfish version .38 and yours is .39 | 01:26 |
| vakkov | oh yeah there ws an update for utilika | 01:27 |
| vakkov | uitukka * | 01:27 |
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| vakkov | sledges: Stskeeps: Not sure if yu already know about that. this trick no longer works with 1.1 http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1411492&postcount=14 that sucks for uni students like me... every wifi here has peap | 01:56 |
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| tbr | vakkov: there was a hotfix. if you are building a community adaptation you will need to rebuild connman from source as it's not in the U9 on OBS | 05:54 |
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| vakkov | tbr: i just rebuit the image with release set to 1.1.0.39 and peap networks work again :) thanks | 09:19 |
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| Piggz | Lo | 09:49 |
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| lbt | PSA: Mer git servers updated - let me know of any issues | 11:18 |
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| piggz | sledges: pull 37 updated | 12:09 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi piggz | 14:17 |
| dr_gogeta86 | hi buddies | 14:17 |
| piggz | lo dr_gogeta86 | 14:21 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i need to back on track on my port | 14:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i need to send real jolla in FI | 14:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I've cracked the digitizer | 14:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i dunno why | 14:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | same SoC i use 3.4 kernel | 14:22 |
| piggz | ive got a galaxy note 1 here with a smashed screen...the digitizer and lcd are ok, just the top lens .. the replacement glass cost only £5...but then i watch a video, and it looks like a right pita :) | 14:23 |
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| vakkov | piggz: the glass change should be done in a shop with a hot air gun, some expensive chemicals to remove the old glue, some new expensive glue :D :D and a UV lamp to "tighten" the glue | 15:35 |
| vakkov | unless you have all these :D then you can do it yourself | 15:36 |
| vakkov | i've done it :D | 15:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | For the record | 15:36 |
| piggz | vakkov: meh, the video used a hairdryer and cleaning solution :) | 15:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | if you got a parter who love nail art you already got this at come | 15:36 |
| vakkov | and how does he glue the new glass back | 15:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | uv light, chemicals | 15:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | hot air gun you can use hair dryer or ... heat gun .... | 15:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | you must find a jolla digitizer first :-D | 15:37 |
| sledges | dr_gogeta86: 100EUR voucher ~-> snapdeal prices (wink wink) | 15:41 |
| dr_gogeta86 | sledges, i can support jolla ... will be the 4th | 15:41 |
| dr_gogeta86 | sledges, ramp up with qt 5.2 | 15:42 |
| sledges | :D a real supporter. just reminding what you said the other day anyways ;) | 15:42 |
| dr_gogeta86 | the fact is | 15:42 |
| dr_gogeta86 | pls more apis and less android app in store | 15:43 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and stella operation is a fail | 15:43 |
| dr_gogeta86 | on one+ is buggy more then first version of sailfishos | 15:43 |
| locusf | did vgrade get it working on one+ | 15:49 |
| sledges | dr_gogeta86: #jollamobile ;) | 15:50 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i know | 15:50 |
| dr_gogeta86 | better sfa | 15:50 |
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| plfiorini | i wonder how can droid-hal-init.service be Type=notify when grep doesn't find sd_notify | 17:12 |
| Stskeeps | f | 17:14 |
| Stskeeps | there's a fun thing in init.rc | 17:15 |
| * plfiorini go read | 17:15 | |
| plfiorini | aaahm | 17:16 |
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| beidl | hello hello fine folks! | 19:33 |
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| beidl | how is everyone doing today? | 19:35 |
| beidl | this channel seems quite dead every time I've got the chance to join | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | just late in evening :P | 19:37 |
| beidl | Stskeeps: yeah, I'd like to join earlier. stupid army. :P | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | i'm staring myself blind at memory map analysis | 19:39 |
| beidl | scrambling eggs is definitely preferable to that | 19:39 |
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| sledges | beidl: wazaap!? | 20:15 |
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| beidl | sledges: hey! :D | 20:17 |
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| beidl | sledges: could be better, work is tiring/uninteresting and taking more time than I believed it would | 20:18 |
| sledges | beidl: #define work | 20:18 |
| beidl | sledges: cooking for unthankful officials :) | 20:19 |
| sledges | didn't get promoted?:) | 20:19 |
| beidl | sledges: you mean higher rank? | 20:20 |
| Guhl | your doing military service? | 20:22 |
| sledges | to a higher rank ;) like kitchen captain | 20:22 |
| beidl | Guhl: yup, bruck neudorf | 20:22 |
| beidl | sledges: we have created our own military-like nick name: "cordon bleu company" :D | 20:23 |
| sledges | :)) | 20:23 |
| beidl | it certainly has taken away my "drive" to hack on things. | 20:24 |
| Guhl | while i have you here | 20:24 |
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| beidl | but I'd like to get back in the ring *rockytheme* | 20:24 |
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| Guhl | i created a new vision.kmap file | 20:25 |
| Guhl | what would be the best way to tell the build system to create a qmap from it? | 20:26 |
| beidl | Guhl: is kmap2qmap installed in the mer chroot? you could probably hook into that in the %build stanza of an rpm file | 20:28 |
| Guhl | i know how to do it manually | 20:28 |
| beidl | Guhl: or, more easily, just create a new rpm package and let the device pattern depend on it | 20:28 |
| beidl | thats how we make sure maguro gets it special patched systemd package | 20:29 |
| Guhl | not that i would know how to do that but i will look at your maguro stuff | 20:29 |
| beidl | Guhl: it's not that crazily special. but why not just include the qmap in the device specific package itself? | 20:30 |
| Guhl | well of course i just thought that it might be elegant to have the build automatically create the qmap from the vision.kmap and the droid.kmap | 20:31 |
| Guhl | as it does for the us.kmap | 20:31 |
| beidl | Guhl: look at droid-hal-device.inc, search for Source14. that's what the rpm spec references the droid.kmap as. | 20:34 |
| beidl | Guhl: now you could patch it up like I did with enabling kernel image updates | 20:34 |
| Guhl | hmm but that droid-hal-device.inc is not device specific, or is it? | 20:35 |
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| beidl | Guhl: no, but with a specific %define for your spec and a little patch in the .inc you could override/add a device specific kmap | 20:35 |
| beidl | sledges: and how are you doing? | 20:36 |
| sledges | beidl: super busy:) | 20:36 |
| Guhl | and what is the # called in a kmap? | 20:37 |
| beidl | sledges: I guess so, pretty hyped about update9, awesome that vakkov got things running pretty quickly :) | 20:37 |
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| Guhl | spiiroin, ? | 21:54 |
| Guhl | sledges, was there any more talk on the 'user xxx does not exist topic when building the image with mic? | 21:58 |
| sledges | Guhl: no, remained at proposal to create users in mer-core, implications of which haven't been thought-out yet | 22:00 |
| Sage_ | plfiorini: planning of systemd upgrade? ;) | 22:00 |
| Sage_ | plfiorini: noted https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/pull/70 and commented as well | 22:00 |
| plfiorini | Sage_, heh commented back | 22:01 |
| Sage_ | plfiorini: and don't say "I'm stupid" that is quite common to do it that way but as we have "new stuff" we should use that :) | 22:01 |
| plfiorini | Sage_, while we are here i think it should probably be /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d | 22:02 |
| plfiorini | if it is considered part of the distro not a local confoiguration | 22:02 |
| * sledges agrees | 22:02 | |
| Guhl | sledges, ok - i just did a new image and have a lot of "user 105 does not exist" and one for user 1000 (for contactsd) don't know if they are a problem | 22:03 |
| Sage_ | plfiorini: well that is old habit of mine ;) And is true and currently what is there in our sailfish stuff should also be moved. | 22:03 |
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| sledges | Guhl: they are, if something starts breaking. mic creation is full of errors, 99.9% are benign (think it wants a real machine, yet gets shoveled a qemu) | 22:03 |
| Guhl | so - keymap for the vision is done | 22:07 |
| sledges | nice | 22:08 |
| Guhl | now i would need to talk to spiiroin how to integrate the keyboard and its switching out and in with mce | 22:08 |
| sledges | switching? | 22:08 |
| Guhl | slide, switch, whatever | 22:09 |
| sledges | quite certain TOHKBD guys have that nailed | 22:09 |
| Guhl | who's that? | 22:10 |
| sledges | kimmoli | 22:10 |
| kimmoli | sledges: | 22:10 |
| Guhl | aha good to know | 22:10 |
| sledges | hi:) ^ great kickstarter effort btw! | 22:10 |
| kimmoli | that all goes to dirk | 22:10 |
| sledges | who's not here;) | 22:11 |
| kimmoli | and andrew | 22:11 |
| sledges | you are their press representative :D | 22:11 |
| kimmoli | :) | 22:12 |
| Sage_ | beidl: https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/commit/8d49476782a3ab729aee11291f5f928e67e2f7a5 just a comment that this is in general bad as it hardcodes the nemo username. | 22:12 |
| Sage_ | sledges: do we have some guidelines what to do and what not to do btw? We should start probably collecting those like small checklist | 22:12 |
| Guhl | kimmoli, so what is that "quite certain TOHKBD guys have that nailed" about | 22:13 |
| Sage_ | like "Do not harcode /home/nemo" to anything or "Use tmpfiles.d instead of mkdir for volatile files" etc. | 22:13 |
| sledges | Sage_: good starting point http://piratepad.org/hadk-faq | 22:13 |
| beidl | Sage_: as long as the gstreamer packages of sailfish ship the Jolla-specific gstomx.conf file we can't do much about it other than that hack | 22:13 |
| Sage_ | beidl: hmmp | 22:14 |
| kimmoli | Guhl: what? where? | 22:15 |
| Sage_ | beidl: thanks for pointing that out, will get it it fixed. | 22:15 |
| sledges | kimmoli: Guhl is the first to have ported sf to a hwkbd phone (HTC Desire Z). How do you trap keyboard slide-out event, would be useful if you do that via mce, and not so useful if you do it via i2c and other transports? | 22:15 |
| beidl | Sage_: awesome, thank you | 22:15 |
| Guhl | currently the keyboard is not that usefull as | 22:16 |
| sledges | Sage_: correct link: http://piratepad.net/hadk-faq | 22:16 |
| Guhl | 1. the virtual keyboard has to disappear when the hw-kbd is out | 22:17 |
| kimmoli | we use gpio/int pin to detect that, and we need still to have VKB active when typing (altough it will be very minimal VKB) | 22:17 |
| plfiorini | Sage_, is it sufficient to drop usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/droid-hal.conf on device-configs-all, no need to do any install in the spec file right? | 22:17 |
| Guhl | 2. the phone should stay in landscape rotation | 22:17 |
| kimmoli | but if there is (will be) way to allow typing without VKB active, let me know | 22:18 |
| sledges | plfiorini: yes | 22:18 |
| Sage_ | plfiorini: yes it should be sufficient | 22:18 |
| Sage_ | sledges: that is not exactly what I was looking for, more like wiki page in this case. | 22:18 |
| Guhl | i see | 22:18 |
| sledges | Sage_: no placeholder for guidelines im afraid | 22:19 |
| kimmoli | and if it is possible to lock landscape over dbus (haven't digged that out yet) | 22:19 |
| kimmoli | but we'll need also reverse-landscape | 22:19 |
| plfiorini | sledges, Sage_ ok new PR -> https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/pull/71 | 22:19 |
| Guhl | reverse landscape? | 22:20 |
| kimmoli | as the tohkbd can be used on either side | 22:20 |
| Guhl | i think i need to find out what the tohkbd is :-) | 22:21 |
| sledges | plfiorini: commented | 22:21 |
| kimmoli | Orientation.LandscapeInverted | 22:21 |
| sledges | plfiorini: you beat me to it ;P | 22:21 |
| plfiorini | :) | 22:22 |
| Guhl | aha | 22:22 |
| Sage_ | piggz: or who did https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/commit/8ce6452bcb92dd1c5cac6402537162775b795bee is there more info why it is needed? Just want to understand if there is something that could be easily fixed. | 22:22 |
| sledges | beidl: ^ | 22:23 |
| Guhl | should probably be fixed in ofono | 22:24 |
| Guhl | the modem needs to be forces online on our devices | 22:24 |
| Sage_ | plfiorini: lgtm ;) | 22:25 |
| beidl | sledges Sage_ trying to find the bugreport I filed some time ago | 22:25 |
| plfiorini | \o/ | 22:26 |
| Guhl | beidl, btw. does the proximity sensor work out of the box on the maguro? | 22:26 |
| Sage_ | any other that kind of things that must be hacked because something is wrong atm.? | 22:26 |
| beidl | Guhl: yup | 22:27 |
| Guhl | i can only get it working if i do the following sequence | 22:27 |
| Guhl | stop mce | 22:27 |
| beidl | Sage_: not that i remember | 22:27 |
| Guhl | stop sensord | 22:27 |
| Guhl | start sensord | 22:27 |
| Guhl | poke the proximity sensor with something like the Messwerk App | 22:27 |
| Guhl | start mce | 22:27 |
| beidl | Sage_: well I remember having issues getting MTP working, thats because theres no userspace helper that makes use of androids MTP kernel support/android_usb | 22:28 |
| Guhl | Sage_, define "needs to be hacked?" | 22:29 |
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| Sage_ | Guhl: like https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/commit/8ce6452bcb92dd1c5cac6402537162775b795bee or https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/commit/8d49476782a3ab729aee11291f5f928e67e2f7a5 :) | 22:29 |
| beidl | Sage_: compiling the maguro kernel with functionfs, which is required, results in a not booting device | 22:29 |
| beidl | Sage_: and I'm pretty sure every ported device has this issue | 22:30 |
| Sage_ | functionfs required? | 22:30 |
| Guhl | Sage_, i had to do quite some changes to ofono (rilmodem and ril) to make it work on the htc vision | 22:30 |
| sledges | Sage_: not forgetting the https://github.com/beidl/systemd/commit/522dd6bd0a32c36d955ce0dc5d487c0794e68e97 | 22:31 |
| Guhl | as the normal version only implements ril version 7 | 22:31 |
| Sage_ | beidl: where do we say it is required afaik it is not | 22:31 |
| sledges | (this patched systemd is spinning only on maguro) | 22:31 |
| Sage_ | sledges: well that is omap ;) | 22:32 |
| sledges | ;P this hack solves ~12% CPU usage by udev | 22:32 |
| sledges | iirc | 22:32 |
| beidl | Sage_: it was some time ago when I looked into that. userspace on Jolla seems to use functionfs instead of the android_usb gadget driver | 22:33 |
| beidl | Sage_: s/seems/pretty sure/ | 22:33 |
| beidl | Sage_: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727 | 22:35 |
| Merbot` | Nemo bug 727 in Hybris-ing "[maguro] ofono unable to read/write from SIM" [Major,New] | 22:35 |
| Sage_ | beidl: ok, but strictly it is not required however current mtp implentation does not work without I think | 22:35 |
| beidl | Sage_: exactly | 22:35 |
| beidl | Sage_: I played around with the ubuntu touch mtp daemon, but it makes heavy use of C++11, needs a newer gcc | 22:35 |
| * Sage_ makes note to internal backlog to investigate the mtp (no promises on this though) | 22:37 | |
| beidl | Sage_: great :) as a backup plan, I could start from scratch and roll my own. | 22:38 |
| beidl | on the other hand, we all know how that always turns out :P | 22:38 |
| Sage_ | beidl: at least we need to document that as I haven't noted it myself | 22:38 |
| Sage_ | beidl: maguro aka GT-I9250 right? | 22:43 |
| beidl | Sage_: Sage_exactly | 22:43 |
| Sage_ | aka Galaxy Nexus | 22:43 |
| Sage_ | ok | 22:43 |
| Sage_ | how likely it is that I just happen to have that phone on my table :) | 22:44 |
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| beidl | Sage_: before you try it: I don't have an extensive testing infrastructure. When it booted it I released it :)) | 22:45 |
| Sage_ | beidl: no worries I've been there as well | 22:45 |
| beidl | Sage_: might be that booting fails the first time around, I remember there being a deadlock in ofono | 22:46 |
| beidl | or at least it appeared to be | 22:46 |
| * Sage_ remembers with warm feelings the one night wonders from over 1 year back with w00t, Stskeeps and friends | 22:46 | |
| w00t | Sage_: they were good times | 22:47 |
| * Sage_ ponders if that sounded a bit twisted ;) | 22:47 | |
| * beidl plays "Time Of My Life" | 22:47 | |
| beidl | seems appropriate | 22:48 |
| Sage_ | beidl: will need to check if I have time at some point to flash sailfish on my maguro | 22:48 |
| * Sage_ thinks it is time to go to sleep before the mood drifts too much ;) | 22:48 | |
| beidl | Sage_: cool can't wait to get those bug reports coming | 22:48 |
| Guhl | coming back to my topic i think i'll talk to spiiroin - the keyboard switch should be handled by mce in my opinion | 22:50 |
| beidl | might have to go now as well. I mean, who would scramble those eggs if I get up too late to head to the barracks | 22:50 |
| sledges | Guhl: is kbd switch essentially a keystroke? | 22:51 |
| Guhl | no it's an evdev event | 22:52 |
| beidl | bye guise, I will try to join tomorrow | 22:52 |
| Guhl | /dev/input/event3: 9241.727 - 0x05/EV_SW - 0x000/SW_LID - 0 | 22:52 |
| Guhl | /dev/input/event3: 9241.727 - 0x00/EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0 | 22:52 |
| Guhl | that was open | 22:52 |
| Guhl | /dev/input/event3: 9278.871 - 0x05/EV_SW - 0x000/SW_LID - 1 | 22:52 |
| Guhl | /dev/input/event3: 9278.871 - 0x00/EV_SYN - 0x000/SYN_REPORT - 0 | 22:52 |
| Guhl | and that is close | 22:52 |
| Guhl | and i think that spiiroin said that there is already some lid handling in mce | 22:53 |
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| Guhl | but for a different scenario, where the lid covers the display | 22:54 |
| Guhl | mce is the next on my list to fork and build | 22:54 |
| sledges | by beidl | 22:54 |
| beidl | sledges: o/ | 22:55 |
| sledges | Guhl: yep you should be on a good way | 22:55 |
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| Guhl | atm i have too many open issues - fix the ril for even older versions = piggz and his ace | 22:56 |
| Guhl | fix the proximity sensor | 22:56 |
| Sage_ | Guhl: https://github.com/nemomobile/mce/blob/master/tklock.h#L135 if you want to dig yourself :) | 22:56 |
| Sage_ | https://github.com/nemomobile/mce/blob/master/inifiles/mce.ini <- also search slide | 22:57 |
| Guhl | Sage_, thanks thats what i am here for digging as deep as possible | 22:57 |
| Sage_ | though those are probably from n900 times so might need a bit workd :) | 22:57 |
| Sage_ | Guhl: also https://github.com/nemomobile/mce/blob/master/modules/keypad.c is probably interest | 22:58 |
| Guhl | initially i actually wanted to implement my permission spoofing stuff for sailfish os | 22:58 |
| Guhl | but porting is much more fun :-) | 22:58 |
| Sage_ | oh what fun it is to note at 1am that mail that one wrote some hours ago but didn't sent yet died with mail app :( | 22:59 |
| Guhl | and i need my keyboard back! i already gave my n4 to my 5 year old daughter cause i could not use it without a keyboard | 23:02 |
| Guhl | and i would like to throw my jolla against a wall at least twice a day for the same reason | 23:02 |
| Guhl | Sage_, thanks for all that hints that will give me a good starting point ! | 23:03 |
| Sage_ | Guhl: welcome, hopefully that helps. spiiroin can help much more though :) | 23:05 |
| Guhl | Sage_, i'd like to ask you a strategic question. Is it of any interest to make ofono support older RIL versions or don't you really care as modern phones are more important anyway? | 23:05 |
| Guhl | in the current implementation the RIL implementation is not really accurate anyway (even for ril version 7) | 23:07 |
| Guhl | there are quite some assumptions and some of them are wrong | 23:08 |
| Guhl | and it does not support older ril versions at all | 23:08 |
| Guhl | i fixed it enough that everything works for my visions (tested it on 3 of them with different radio firmwares) | 23:09 |
| Guhl | atm i do not intend to push my changes up- or side or whatever stream i nobody else cares | 23:10 |
| vakkov | @iamdevloper 4m4 minutes ago | 23:10 |
| vakkov | Facebook is down. If we all keep refreshing, we can kill it for good. | 23:10 |
| vakkov | go go :D | 23:10 |
| vakkov | beidl: this is the updated systemd https://github.com/vakkov/systemd | 23:12 |
| Sage_ | Guhl: well, if you have valid patches I don't see why those would not be merged as long as they do not break the current implementation. Of course newer hardware takes priority in many cases but it really depends on the patch quality and the fix itself. | 23:14 |
| Guhl | Sage_, thanks for the feedback, i'll try to fix it for piggz phone too and then review the code again | 23:16 |
| Guhl | right now my top priorities are sound (in and routing), keyboard integration in mce - then i can use the vision as my daily driver | 23:18 |
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| Guhl | and now the even higher priority is to get some sleep :-) - night | 23:21 |
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