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| _dinsdale | vgrade: did you run into any of these selinux errors in your build? http://pastebin.com/hbR9pQ7n Any idea what I'm doing wrong? | 04:07 |
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| _dinsdale | Manifest: http://pastebin.com/0MjZjXFA, Kernel Config (cyanogenmod_bacon_defconfig) http://pastebin.com/ddpdU52u | 04:10 |
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| _dinsdal1 | this is a test of irc on my phone... | 06:03 |
| _dinsdal1 | Ha, it worked. now I can be on irc FOREVER ahhahahahaha! | 06:05 |
| _dinsdal1 | So is the real sailfish os muh different than using the Jolla launcher? | 06:09 |
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| locusf | https://twitter.com/marianoflotron/status/540607583124717569?s=09 | 06:45 |
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| _dinsdale | OMFG that's so cool! | 07:02 |
| Stskeeps | _dinsdale: yeah, quite different, but homescreen is somehow comparable | 07:03 |
| _dinsdale | I can only dream. :( | 07:04 |
| _dinsdale | locusf: that's amazing. congrats | 07:04 |
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| _dinsdale | luocusf: So nemoMobile is mer with a different er.. ui to it? | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | the story there is that sailfishos open sources pretty much all it's middleware | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | the qml part is the easier part to make/ui | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | so all the productisation we've done can be used to build from-day-one already quite stable alternative uis, too | 07:10 |
| * _dinsdale hugs stskeeps. I think I'm going to cry that's so poetic to my ears | 07:13 | |
| Stskeeps | but that doesn't often fly to the regular consumer.. for people who want to do something new, it's great, but not so much for users wanting to modify their uis | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | some might argue it's an intentional attempt to make sure open source things beyond phones and tablets :P | 07:13 |
| _dinsdale | A very noble cause. It's nice to know that someone is watching our backs. I don't like the way google is trying to tell everyone what to do with Android. It's very er, Nokia-ish the way they treated symbian | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | there's nothing stopping anybody from taking all this code and breaking into let's say, smartwatches.. | 07:16 |
| _dinsdale | Or cars, or home units... | 07:17 |
| _dinsdale | so can the UI be productized by other companies like Jolla has done? I.E just by buying a QT developer license? | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | you don't even need that | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | qt can be used in it's open source form, doesn't mean you have to open source your code | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | * unless you do stupid stuff like static binaries | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | we don't have a qt commercial license in jolla | 07:20 |
| _dinsdale | hmmm. that last comment streches my understanding of Linux devlepment. Do you mean "static linking"? | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:20 |
| _dinsdale | I see | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | which meanas the LGPL license will turn into GPL in practice | 07:20 |
| _dinsdale | I see | 07:21 |
| _dinsdale | So if I already have a linux kernel build for a display system, I would just need to build and use the mer "userland" and I could have a nemomobile system? | 07:22 |
| Stskeeps | well, there's a bit more requirements such as wayland requirement but yes, strictly speaking | 07:23 |
| _dinsdale | could you elaborate? | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | as in there's some GPU requirements/driver requirements | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | but in practice there's nothing stopping you from doing a lot of things | 07:24 |
| * Stskeeps needs more coffee.. | 07:25 | |
| _dinsdale | So plasma active is the KDE variant of a mer ui? | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | well, they exist as somewhat OS agnostic in first place | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | and mer doesn't have a ui | 07:27 |
| Stskeeps | it's boring core and middleware | 07:27 |
| Stskeeps | but that's the Really Hard Part(TM) to get right | 07:27 |
| _dinsdale | So beside are you attempting to monetize mer other than the Jolla stuff? | 07:28 |
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| Stskeeps | really hard to monetize that, but you can see it as a reduction of cost since multiple parties are working together to make the core better | 07:29 |
| Stskeeps | => saves money | 07:29 |
| Stskeeps | even working on fixing packages for a toolchain upgrade can amount to let's say, several thousand of EURs saved | 07:29 |
| Stskeeps | in time | 07:29 |
| _dinsdale | and time can be worth more than money to a small company... | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:30 |
| _dinsdale | This is where I work: http://www.questertangent.com/ | 07:31 |
| _dinsdale | I write wayside (server side) software | 07:31 |
| _dinsdale | well, I don't write it anymore... XD | 07:31 |
| * Stskeeps clicks | 07:33 | |
| _dinsdale | So all this hybris-hal stuff goes away if I am using a standard kernel? | 07:33 |
| Stskeeps | yes, but at same time you need to provide other enablers such as GPU | 07:35 |
| _dinsdale | ah, so many board support packages, so little time. /me sighs | 07:36 |
| _dinsdale | lolz | 07:36 |
| * _dinsdale sighs | 07:37 | |
| Stskeeps | sometimes it's just easier grabbing a android kit and HADK'ing it | 07:37 |
| _dinsdale | what's the performance hit for hybris? | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | pretty much none | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | we did a whole product with it, the jolla phone | 07:38 |
| _dinsdale | oh, you mean the phone you meanies won't release in Canada? :P | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | well that's more of an antenna issue.. | 07:38 |
| _dinsdale | Talk to the hand... | 07:39 |
| _dinsdale | :D | 07:39 |
| _dinsdale | omg, it's almost midnight. I should try and sleep. | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | night | 07:40 |
| _dinsdale | Thanks for the chat. Night! | 07:40 |
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| locusf | _dinsdal1: yup, different ui indeed + free software core apps | 08:31 |
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| locusf | sledges: lbt: https://github.com/mer-hybris/lge-kernel-mako/pull/1 | 13:13 |
| lbt | locusf: commit message could explain why and based on what? | 13:14 |
| lbt | I suspect new kernel config checker? | 13:14 |
| locusf | lbt: yes | 13:20 |
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| locusf | lbt: updated commit msg | 13:45 |
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| gost | @piggz_： | 14:10 |
| gost | piggz_：hi! | 14:10 |
| gost | piggz_：http://pastebin.com/KkPvUVPJ | 14:11 |
| gost | piggz_：I met the same problem,but the ifconfig -a output is not the same | 14:14 |
| phdeswer | gost: which hw? | 14:15 |
| gost | phdeswer：hw? | 14:18 |
| phdeswer | gost: hardware/device | 14:18 |
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| gost | wait. | 14:19 |
| gost | I am vivo porting. | 14:21 |
| phdeswer | Ok, haven't seen that one passing by yet. | 14:23 |
| phdeswer | So your problem seems to be there is no USB up? | 14:24 |
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| gost | wait | 14:24 |
| locusf | lbt: thanks for merging :) | 14:24 |
| gost | Mer Debug: ERROR: could not setup USB as usb0 or rndis0 | 14:25 |
| phdeswer | gost: yes. What pc are you using to connect it to? As it would be a first step to consider if the usb interface is coming up on the Vivo, but just has a name different from usb0 or rndis0 | 14:26 |
| gost | I use piggz methods, add, and rebuilding, and then start, but don't succeed. | 14:26 |
| phdeswer | gost: first of all. Does your pc see an usb network interface? | 14:27 |
| gost | I'm a little understand | 14:27 |
| gost | no | 14:27 |
| phdeswer | As piggz_ (if I recall correctly) had some device (ace) which needed an extra command to activate it. | 14:27 |
| gost | I didn't see it | 14:27 |
| phdeswer | https://github.com/piggz/hybris-boot/commit/c2054b8b0942819d01ab87b8d2e6fa5d7603e225 | 14:28 |
| gost | y | 14:29 |
| gost | I really is added | 14:29 |
| phdeswer | gost: you mean you have those lines? Because your log does not show them | 14:30 |
| gost | y | 14:31 |
| gost | Do you want to see which logs? | 14:31 |
| gost | I said my process | 14:32 |
| phdeswer | gost: any logs are good. But I don't know pigzz method. Anyway. If you have logs of where for example you have that extra USB enable line I would like to see them. | 14:33 |
| phdeswer | But better would be trying to figure out the actual problem and then find a solution. | 14:33 |
| gost | I add first, and then rebuilding, and then restart. Computer display all disk mount, but start is not successful, a network interface | 14:33 |
| gost | Because all start failure, disk mounted, no init. Log log is generated. | 14:35 |
| gost | But I didn't add before, have a init.log is generated. | 14:36 |
| phdeswer | ok. so we know the usb network interface on the Vivo is not configured right. | 14:36 |
| phdeswer | So now we need to check if it is actually active (but has a wrong name so configuration fails), or it does not work at all | 14:37 |
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| gost | usb0 or rndis0? | 14:38 |
| gost | I'll try to change name of these two. | 14:39 |
| johny_ | how stable is sailfish on maguro ? i dont mean features (gps etc), just system stability and battery life | 14:41 |
| phdeswer | gost: don't go there now. | 14:41 |
| phdeswer | It tries both. So it is neither of those. Or the device is not active. | 14:42 |
| phdeswer | So when connected do you see an usb network interface appear on your computer? | 14:42 |
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| gost | This is my init. Log information | 14:43 |
| phdeswer | gost: you're wasting your time by guessing. Start with what you know. | 14:45 |
| phdeswer | 1. usb interface configuration on vivo fails. | 14:45 |
| phdeswer | So possible causes: a) interface name is not usb0 or rndis0, b) device is not even active | 14:45 |
| phdeswer | We know a) is probably not ok, but it would fail also if b) is wrong. | 14:46 |
| phdeswer | So we check for b first. | 14:46 |
| gost | http://pastebin.com/9A2BQzZp | 14:47 |
| gost | dmesg | 14:48 |
| gost | Next is the init. Log | 14:48 |
| gost | http://pastebin.com/ShFt9JKx | 14:49 |
| phdeswer | gost: ok. Have you checked that kernel? As there is no trace of the USB being activated. | 14:51 |
| phdeswer | Check dmesg of your own computer to see if it does not recognize any USB network interfaces | 14:51 |
| phdeswer | And for example you don't have what is in the commit from pigzz I showed you before | 14:52 |
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| gost | http://pastebin.com/y1GT58dA | 14:56 |
| gost | This is the kernel configuration | 14:56 |
| phdeswer | ok, seems you're using a different kernel : dmesg : Linux version 2.6.35.14-cyanogenmod-g8090e84-dirty | 14:57 |
| phdeswer | config: 3.0.101-ck1 | 14:57 |
| gost | wait | 14:58 |
| gost | I check | 14:58 |
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| gost | There is no reason to ah, my dmesg is copy in rec mode | 15:02 |
| phdeswer | gost: check the kernels. Because your log clearly states you're running a different kernel than your config suggests. | 15:03 |
| gost | Why is the kernel will not be the same | 15:03 |
| phdeswer | Then check your computer dmesg for rndis : something like this: [990504.184636] rndis_host 3-2:1.0 usb1: register 'rndis_host' at usb-0000:00:14.0-2, RNDIS device, ca:0b:76:64:90:8c | 15:04 |
| phdeswer | gost: I have no clue. I did not build the image you use. | 15:04 |
| phdeswer | And if you see rndis in your computer log, then you have a wrong interface name. If not then you probably have to try the change from the commit I pointed you at. | 15:05 |
| phdeswer | However I have to go now, so cannot help you anymore atm. | 15:06 |
| gost | thank you | 15:06 |
| gost | I'll do as you say | 15:07 |
| phdeswer | you're welcome and good luck! | 15:08 |
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