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| jcbjoe__ | Question .. the end users that are testing .. are there daily things you want us to do or something .. or is there like a post we go to to test things ? | 00:40 |
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| jcbjoe__ | i got a nexus 4 using sailfish as a daily driver | 00:40 |
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| SirCmpwn | any chance at samsung galaxy s5 support? | 01:23 |
| SirCmpwn | not listed in current status page | 01:23 |
| jcbjoe__ | SirCmpwn: the links i gave you should help i don't have a nexus 5 just a nexus 4 | 01:24 |
| jcbjoe__ | sorry | 01:24 |
| SirCmpwn | not a nexus, a samsung | 01:25 |
| jcbjoe__ | oh my bad | 01:25 |
| SirCmpwn | I'm running CM on it (I know CM has far broader support) | 01:25 |
| jcbjoe__ | let me look again | 01:25 |
| SirCmpwn | I would guess that SGSIII == samsung galaxy s3 | 01:25 |
| jcbjoe__ | probably | 01:25 |
| jcbjoe__ | i don't see samsung s5 | 01:26 |
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| SirCmpwn | my end goal is to get used to the system before the tablet arrives | 01:27 |
| jcbjoe__ | oh nice | 01:27 |
| jcbjoe__ | SirCmpwn: yea i'm using my nexus 4 rightn ow with sailfish on it ... on the 1st im gonna get a jolla phone on ebay :D | 01:28 |
| SirCmpwn | not really interested in the jolla phone | 01:28 |
| jcbjoe__ | i am :P | 01:28 |
| SirCmpwn | but I backed the tablet because I would totally buy a tablet that runs a GNU/Linux system | 01:28 |
| jcbjoe__ | yea | 01:28 |
| jcbjoe__ | i love phones | 01:28 |
| jcbjoe__ | jolla phone on the 1st daily driver .. N9 meego Feburary 1st just to have it for not apprent reason | 01:29 |
| jcbjoe__ | s/not/no/ | 01:29 |
| jcbjoe__ | not i will just stay with jolla | 01:30 |
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| jcbjoe__ | SirCmpwn: looking at the tablet... looks really nice | 01:49 |
| SirCmpwn | indeed. | 01:50 |
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| situ | sledges: I don't have any fix for the usbmod thing. | 06:13 |
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| SirCmpwn | under what license are the proprietary bits of sailfish distributed? | 06:54 |
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| sledges | situ: alpha3 was built with this version, do you have the same in? http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/hw:/lge:/hammerhead/sailfish_latest_armv7hl/armv7hl/usb-moded-0.80.4-10.1.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm | 09:29 |
| situ | sledges: I have been building my images from same repo isn't it ? | 09:30 |
| sledges | situ: idk:) | 09:32 |
| situ | This package was built almost 4 months ago, I should have the same one on my device. | 09:32 |
| sledges | this one: http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/hw:/lge:/hammerhead/sailfish_1.1.0.38_armv7hl/armv7hl/usb-moded-0.80.4-10.1.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm | 09:33 |
| situ | Yes. | 09:34 |
| sledges | alin: ping | 09:34 |
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| sledges | SirCmpwn: https://jolla.com/sailfish-eula/ | 09:37 |
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| alin | sledges: pong | 09:39 |
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| sledges | alin: we can't get usb-moded-0.80.4 to work with update9 1.1.0.38 | 09:40 |
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| sledges | using the same version as in alpha3 (1.0.8.19) | 09:41 |
| sledges | situ: does your .ks have all these usb-moded packages http://images.devaamo.fi/sfa/hammerhead/alpha3/Jolla-1.0.8.19-hammerhead-armv7hl.ks ? | 09:41 |
| alin | sledges: meaning? you get the black screen? | 09:41 |
| alin | sledges: I used to use a trick to boot it | 09:42 |
| sledges | yes | 09:43 |
| alin | sledges: start it connected with usb cable | 09:43 |
| sledges | ummm, but that has been released as alpha3, so means that all users have blackscreen with usb out? | 09:43 |
| alin | sledges: after few seconds trying to get an IP remove the cable | 09:43 |
| alin | sledges: no... only update 9 | 09:43 |
| sledges | ooohh | 09:44 |
| sledges | good catch;) | 09:44 |
| alin | sledges: with alpha 3 was ok | 09:44 |
| sledges | we might have to revert usb-moded then (alpha1 and 2 did not have it so a regression which we could permit) | 09:44 |
| sledges | in case we can't fix it | 09:44 |
| sledges | soon | 09:44 |
| alin | sledges: may phdeswer can have a look at it | 09:45 |
| sledges | alin: how many working features did usb-moded bring if you remember? dhcp server, ..., ? | 09:45 |
| alin | sledges: working dhcp server | 09:46 |
| alin | sledges: he fixed it pretty fast then | 09:46 |
| phdeswer | what's the problem exactly? | 09:47 |
| sledges | we can't get usb-moded-0.80.4 to work with update9 1.1.0.38 | 09:48 |
| alin | now out of topic do you know if tsadar updated his mutirom | 09:48 |
| sledges | it worked with 1.0.8.19 | 09:48 |
| phdeswer | sledges: be a bit more specific... | 09:48 |
| sledges | phdeswer: black screen | 09:48 |
| alin | phdeswer: the only way I got it work was to start it with the usab cable and remove the cable few seconds in the process of gettign the ip | 09:48 |
| phdeswer | Weird. I really can't see how that could be usb-modeds fault. Unless systemd messes up badly | 09:49 |
| sledges | alin: which one did you use for 1.1.0.38 - jolla-devicelock-plugin-encpartition | 09:49 |
| sledges | or | 09:49 |
| sledges | jolla-devicelock-plugin-encsfa ? | 09:50 |
| sledges | (same question to situ:) | 09:50 |
| phdeswer | alin: so start with usb connected and then you need to remove it? | 09:50 |
| alin | sledges: I do not know | 09:50 |
| alin | sledges: http://1drv.ms/XuKlvX | 09:50 |
| alin | sledges: the image is here... I cannot boot it now I as I do not have the multirom installed | 09:51 |
| alin | sledges: can you try that image? | 09:51 |
| sledges | ok, i'll check the contents | 09:51 |
| sledges | it's enough to extract it and grep rpm db | 09:51 |
| sledges | which means, you don't have .ks? | 09:51 |
| situ | sledges: I think we already tried that .ks and it didn't boot. | 09:55 |
| situ | tried that image * | 09:55 |
| sledges | which reassures that i need to dl it and see which package is in ;) | 09:56 |
| alin | situ: boots if you do the trick I said.. I posted that when I generated | 09:56 |
| alin | but we said we shall concentrate on 8 rather than 9 | 09:56 |
| sledges | alin: because we thought camera is coming, but requirements change ;) | 09:57 |
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| phdeswer | alin: can you check what happens when the udhcpd service file gets removed? | 09:58 |
| phdeswer | Given what you told me I can only think of systemd stopping boot hanging on udhcpd failing to start (which it should not even try to start) | 09:59 |
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| alin | phdeswer: nope I cannot try now... let us hope multirom works on 5.0 | 10:00 |
| alin | phdeswer: I am not really int he mood of going back to 4. | 10:00 |
| phdeswer | alin: ok. No problem. | 10:00 |
| alin | phdeswer: if you have multirom you can try that image fast | 10:01 |
| alin | phdeswer: I remember you have n5 | 10:01 |
| alin | reboot/root time wish me luck | 10:01 |
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| sledges | alin: i see no reason why it shouldn't work: | 10:03 |
| sledges | https://s.basketbuild.com/filedl/devs?dev=Tassadar&dl=Tassadar//multirom/hammerhead/kernel_kexec_hammerhead_50_final.zip | 10:03 |
| sledges | http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/orig-development/mod-multirom-v24-t2571011 | 10:03 |
| sledges | it's v30 out | 10:03 |
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| alin | ok root complete and multirom installed | 10:11 |
| alin | now time to get the image boot... | 10:11 |
| alin | sledges: to skip the turorial the same thing? 3 ave maria 2 push ups and 3 times jump on the left foot? | 10:11 |
| sledges | alin: are you saying you forgot the incantations? | 10:15 |
| phdeswer | alin: hit each corner afaik | 10:16 |
| sledges | yes, starting top-left, clock-wise | 10:16 |
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| sledges | situ: found one problem: replace jolla-devicelock-plugin-encpartition with jolla-devicelock-plugin-encsfa in your .ks | 10:20 |
| situ | sledges: What was the problem ? | 10:21 |
| sledges | pattern/package resolving/handling u8 vs u9 | 10:22 |
| sledges | we should always have jolla-devicelock-plugin-encsfa, yet u8 had an unfixed problem that to pull encsfa, encpartition had to be specified | 10:22 |
| sledges | u9 has that fixed so | 10:22 |
| situ | Is that related to usbmod ? | 10:24 |
| sledges | possible and hopefully | 10:24 |
| phdeswer | Well if devicelock does not work, usb-moded will not turn on usb functionality. But that should no stop booy | 10:26 |
| phdeswer | s/booy/boot | 10:26 |
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| situ | building image now. | 10:28 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 10:49 |
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| alin | ok after many boots reboots managed to get to language selection | 10:57 |
| alin | then I got a black screen | 10:57 |
| alin | phdeswer: more on the thing... it boots then tries to set the netwrok I can see it in nm then fails | 10:57 |
| alin | immediately while led is on | 10:57 |
| alin | but the google logo is on all the time | 10:58 |
| phdeswer | alin: that is why I suspect a systemd failure and the udhcpcd service file | 10:59 |
| alin | phdeswer: but I thought you fixed this | 11:00 |
| phdeswer | alin: well we never had this problem. I really doubt it is usb-modeds fault. | 11:01 |
| phdeswer | It's kind of hard to guess what is wrong now without logs or any indication what might be wrong. | 11:02 |
| * phdeswer needs to get his hands on an n5 to figure out what goes wrong | 11:04 | |
| alin | phdeswer: yap it is tricky to do anything | 11:04 |
| alin | phdeswer: one thing is that the netwrok interface does not come up | 11:04 |
| alin | after it fails to set the network address | 11:05 |
| alin | phdeswer: I think we may need a new image too | 11:05 |
| alin | as I suspect since 31/10 when I generated it many things changed | 11:05 |
| phdeswer | alin: the usb network interface right? Do you see it in dmesg? Or mass-storage? | 11:06 |
| alin | phdeswer: no | 11:08 |
| phdeswer | So no mass-storage or usb net? | 11:08 |
| alin | phdeswer: none | 11:08 |
| phdeswer | That rather indicates something goes wrong before usb-moded starts | 11:08 |
| sledges | let's wait for situ to test the correct devicelock package. might be that the incorrect one simply blows things up | 11:09 |
| phdeswer | yep | 11:09 |
| sledges | however strange that chucking usb-moded packages out makes it boot.. | 11:09 |
| alin | sledges: did situ build a new image? | 11:10 |
| sledges | 12:28 < situ> building image now. | 11:10 |
| alin | sledges: I missed that was rooting mine | 11:10 |
| alin | sledges: I cannot build an image right now will take till tomorrow to download the crap | 11:11 |
| alin | sledges: the kernel one | 11:11 |
| alin | sledges: also do we move to cm12? | 11:11 |
| phdeswer | sledges: I don't get it either. | 11:11 |
| phdeswer | Because if what alin says is true, it fails before usb-moded is even started | 11:12 |
| phdeswer | Unless for some reason it keeps failing and systemd stops boot. But that would mean some major change in the kernel | 11:12 |
| sledges | alin: feel free | 11:13 |
| situ | Installing now | 11:21 |
| situ | sledges: GUI comes up but telnet connection is down. | 11:23 |
| sledges | situ: wasn't it like this before, in your case? | 11:23 |
| situ | sledges: Yeah, right. | 11:24 |
| situ | Now interface to phone is up again. | 11:24 |
| situ | with correct ip address and I can ssh to the phone. | 11:25 |
| Nokius1 | except the opo all device are added P6 | 11:25 |
| sledges | ok, i'll rephrase: is it any better now than before? | 11:25 |
| situ | sledges: Actually earlier we were having 2 issues, GUI was not coming up (because of systemd dependecy problem) and interface to phone was not working. | 11:26 |
| sledges | situ: you fixed the systemd, and which interface are you referring to? | 11:26 |
| situ | sledges: After we fixed the problem with systemd dependency we never check if usb-moded issue was still there. Probably usb-moded comes up only aftr GUI starts. | 11:27 |
| sledges | ofc, because you kept usb-moded out of build at that time | 11:27 |
| sledges | situ: at any rate, the correct devicelock package will now permit device lock (really?!) and allow untrusted software sources | 11:28 |
| situ | ok, so in short we are not having any issues with usb-moded now, all looks good to me. | 11:28 |
| sledges | situ: do we have telnet? (it's not needed if ssh is in..) | 11:28 |
| situ | telnet is not working but ssh does work. | 11:29 |
| alin | situ: cool can you make an image available? | 11:29 |
| sledges | shall we put it here? images.devaamo.fi/sfe/hammerhead/alpha4 | 11:29 |
| situ | alin: I will upload the image but it will drain your N5 battery. There's an issue with backlight staying up. | 11:29 |
| alin | situ: yes | 11:30 |
| alin | situ: that was the most annoying | 11:30 |
| phdeswer | sledges: do we have the jolla-rnd-device package now? | 11:30 |
| sledges | phdeswer: nope | 11:30 |
| alin | situ: and most annoying is sometimes is up sometimes goes down | 11:30 |
| sledges | situ: mce fixed it, but need to cherry pick the right version (i.e. not too new) | 11:30 |
| alin | situ: another issue that you cannot unlock the screen sometimes | 11:31 |
| situ | sledges: Right and then there was an issue with mce blocking touch with newest version. | 11:31 |
| alin | situ: the ghost script | 11:31 |
| alin | screen | 11:31 |
| sledges | that | 11:31 |
| alin | sledges: but that was fixed long time ago I thought we commited that changed | 11:31 |
| alin | sledges: i think spiiroin fixed it or so | 11:32 |
| sledges | alin: 13:30 < sledges> situ: mce fixed it, but need to cherry pick the right version (i.e. not too new) | 11:32 |
| alin | situ: how did you build the image? | 11:32 |
| alin | sledges: yap I read.. I do not understand what do you mean pick the right version | 11:33 |
| alin | sledges: i thought that was properly commited | 11:33 |
| situ | alin: I didn't use the script that you guys used, directly created it with mic. | 11:33 |
| sledges | alin: 13:31 < situ> sledges: Right and then there was an issue with mce blocking touch with newest version. | 11:33 |
| situ | alin: You can build it with your script if you like. | 11:33 |
| sledges | Nokius1: where is sfosDeviceFilterList picked up from https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=Devices&action=edit ? | 11:34 |
| alin | sledges: https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:alin:extra/mce-dev | 11:34 |
| alin | sledges: this supposedly is the right version | 11:34 |
| alin | situ: I have no preferences as long as we have an image | 11:35 |
| situ | Uploading it, hang on. | 11:35 |
| alin | situ: I will build one with the script just tomorrow when I get to a proper source of internet | 11:35 |
| situ | volume keys don't work. | 11:39 |
| alin | situ: this one I did not have | 11:40 |
| situ | alin: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9118xp7n0djcu4g/sailfishos-hammerhead-release-1.1.0.39.zip?dl=0 | 11:40 |
| alin | situ: thanks now let us see how long it takes to download | 11:48 |
| Nokius1 | sledges: may this helps https://github.com/Nokius/mer_wiki_device/blob/master/SCAN0001.JPG https://github.com/Nokius/mer_wiki_device/blob/master/SCAN0002.JPG | 12:02 |
| sledges | lol | 12:02 |
| Nokius1 | sledges: but iirc it is in the Common.js | 12:02 |
| sledges | oh | 12:02 |
| sledges | is what need | 12:02 |
| Nokius1 | *afk unboxing my new toy* | 12:03 |
| sledges | Nokius1: where is Common.js? | 12:03 |
| sledges | what's the toy? ;P | 12:03 |
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| Nokius1 | sledges: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js | 12:05 |
| sledges | \o/ thanks | 12:05 |
| Nokius1 | X240 | 12:05 |
| sledges | vNice! | 12:08 |
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| spiiroin | sledges: situ: have you already tried if with mce 1.37.4 helps with that touch blocking issue? | 12:15 |
| situ | spiiroin: Let me try | 12:16 |
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| spiiroin | If the ps does not work properly, it should still stay disabled in mce config. | 12:17 |
| spiiroin | But the changes made in mce might help in partially-working-sensorfw cases. | 12:19 |
| situ | spiiroin: btw what was the fix for touch issue that I need to disable ? | 12:19 |
| spiiroin | situ: basically, same as: mcetool --set-ps-mode=disabled | 12:21 |
| situ | still touch works on wakeup. | 12:21 |
| spiiroin | e.g. install from some package "/etc/mce/70-no-proximity.conf" with content "/system/osso/dsm/proximity/ps_enabled=false" | 12:23 |
| spiiroin | ... or if there is already some n5 specific config file for mce, add the line there | 12:23 |
| sledges | we already have that | 12:25 |
| sledges | https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/blob/hybris-10.1/device-lge-hammerhead-configs/etc/mce/20no-proxim.conf | 12:25 |
| situ | Right | 12:25 |
| spiiroin | then if mce is not blocking input on display wakeup, thigs are ok | 12:25 |
| spiiroin | might have been that it occurred on bootup though | 12:25 |
| situ | spiiroin: mce still not blocking, all looks good. | 12:26 |
| spiiroin | so better test after reboot situation too | 12:26 |
| situ | did reboot | 12:26 |
| spiiroin | good. I did not have n5 around while doing that fix, but suspected that proximity=covered could have leaked through in non-jolla devices too. | 12:28 |
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| sledges | situ: if all is good, do you want me to link mce-1.37.4 to https://build.merproject.org/project/show/nemo:devel:hw:lge:hammerhead ? | 12:31 |
| situ | sledges: Yeah, we can do that. | 12:31 |
| sledges | situ: done | 12:39 |
| situ | alin: Feel free to make new image with your scripts and check if it works well. | 12:40 |
| alin | situ: I will but tomorrow... | 12:42 |
| alin | situ: sound is muted | 12:42 |
| situ | Yes, I see same issue with sound. | 12:42 |
| sledges | sec | 12:43 |
| sledges | my fault, broke it 17 days ago, fixing | 12:43 |
| alin | sledges: sledges sledges | 12:44 |
| stephg | I love that song :D | 12:46 |
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| sledges | fixed: https://build.merproject.org/package/show/nemo:devel:hw:lge:hammerhead/pulseaudio-modules-droid | 12:57 |
| sledges | tested, sound+vol keys is back | 12:57 |
| alin | sledges: ok... let me add the repos and update from them | 12:58 |
| alin | sledges: to confirm | 12:58 |
| situ | sledges: then we are good for a release. | 12:58 |
| alin | sledges: usb-moded brings cool tethering too | 12:58 |
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| phdeswer | :D | 13:04 |
| sledges | latest mce works fine too | 13:05 |
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| alin | sledges: there is one issue I see 1.1.0.38 and 1.1.0.39 | 13:24 |
| sledges | hotfix | 13:25 |
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| Stskeeps | https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-hardware-adaptation-team-day-zero-bootstrapping/ | 13:38 |
| alin | Stskeeps: yes I know I was thinking will mess my things in the script | 13:38 |
| Stskeeps | you mean sledges ;) | 13:41 |
| sledges | i think he meant both, as the storm is approaching;D | 13:41 |
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| alin_ | Stskeeps: yes sledges... | 13:51 |
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| alin | sledges: situ things look ok | 14:46 |
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| situ | Stskeeps: Great post. Thanks! | 15:47 |
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| jcbjoe_ | is there a list of devlepoer mode commands ? | 16:54 |
| SK_work | jcbjoe_: well, devel-su | 16:55 |
| SK_work | to be root | 16:55 |
| SK_work | and all linux stuff | 16:55 |
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| jcbjoe_ | SK_work: ok | 17:00 |
| jcbjoe_ | SK_work: i'm new to the devloper thing on here .. it seems i can only ssh on the phone itself correct ? right now im usb plugged in / devlopler mode on and im trying to ssh from my computer | 17:03 |
| jcbjoe_ | i can ssh from the phone easliy but not from the computer | 17:04 |
| SK_work | jcbjoe_: weired | 17:04 |
| SK_work | first, are you phone recognized as a modem ? | 17:04 |
| jcbjoe_ | how do i make sure it is ? | 17:04 |
| SK_work | jcbjoe_: what os are you running ? | 17:06 |
| jcbjoe_ | 1.1.0.39 (*itukka) | 17:07 |
| jcbjoe_ | err i jacked that one up | 17:07 |
| jcbjoe_ | 1.1.0.39 (Uitukka) | 17:07 |
| jcbjoe_ | SK_work: or the os on my actual computer ? | 17:08 |
| SK_work | computer | 17:08 |
| SK_work | jcbjoe_: are you running Sailfish OS on a Jolla or a different phone ? | 17:08 |
| jcbjoe_ | SK_work: running sailfish os on a nexus 4 | 17:09 |
| jcbjoe_ | daily driver | 17:09 |
| SK_work | ok :) | 17:09 |
| SK_work | computer OS ? | 17:09 |
| jcbjoe_ | Mac osx | 17:09 |
| jcbjoe_ | yosemite 10.10.1 | 17:09 |
| SK_work | hum | 17:15 |
| SK_work | sorry, don't know if it is in modem mode then :s | 17:15 |
| SK_work | can you try to ping it's wireless ip ? | 17:15 |
| SK_work | and ssh through this ip ? | 17:15 |
| SK_work | you need nemo as username | 17:15 |
| SK_work | ssh nemo@192.168.2.15 usually | 17:15 |
| SK_work | (for usb modem interface) | 17:15 |
| jcbjoe_ | wierd i can't text my wifes number .. i can call her .. and i can text my number and other numbers | 17:16 |
| jcbjoe_ | ok let me do the ssh thing | 17:17 |
| SK_work | jcbjoe_: your wife don't like you :( | 17:18 |
| SK_work | or at leat her phone don't like you | 17:18 |
| jcbjoe_ | rlol | 17:18 |
| jcbjoe_ | i was texting her all last night .. wierd | 17:18 |
| jcbjoe_ | i texdt my mom it wen throught .. i text myself right now it went through .. oh well | 17:18 |
| jcbjoe_ | SK_work: do i ping the wlan ip or the usb ip ? | 17:19 |
| SK_work | jcbjoe_: try both | 17:20 |
| jcbjoe_ | ssh nemo@10.0.0.49 worked | 17:21 |
| SK_work | jcbjoe_: then use this ;) | 17:21 |
| jcbjoe_ | so set the password in devloper mode correct ? | 17:21 |
| SK_work | jcbjoe_: what do you mean ? | 17:22 |
| SK_work | how to set dev password ? | 17:22 |
| jcbjoe_ | ijm logged in as neo | 17:22 |
| jcbjoe_ | im looged in as nemo | 17:22 |
| SK_work | jcbjoe_: nice | 17:22 |
| SK_work | you can devel-su to go root | 17:23 |
| SK_work | same pw as dev mode | 17:23 |
| jcbjoe_ | aw ok | 17:23 |
| jcbjoe_ | SK_work: sudo devel-su | 17:24 |
| jcbjoe_ | ? | 17:24 |
| jcbjoe_ | or just su devel-su | 17:24 |
| SK_work | just devel-su | 17:24 |
| SK_work | ;) | 17:24 |
| jcbjoe_ | got it | 17:25 |
| jcbjoe_ | i don't think my wife payed her phone bill | 17:27 |
| SK_work | :D | 17:27 |
| jcbjoe_ | SK_work: you got a jolla phone ? | 17:28 |
| SK_work | yep | 17:28 |
| jcbjoe_ | oh wow | 17:28 |
| SK_work | well, the Jolla phone itself is nothing to be wowed | 17:28 |
| SK_work | it's good enough | 17:28 |
| SK_work | what's wow, is Sailfish OS :) | 17:28 |
| jcbjoe_ | good enough to get by ? | 17:28 |
| jcbjoe_ | the os itself right ? | 17:29 |
| SK_work | ? | 17:29 |
| SK_work | but I really like the Jolla. The design is nice | 17:29 |
| jcbjoe_ | he sailfish os itself is the wow factor | 17:29 |
| jcbjoe_ | i been researching it alot and i like the os | 17:29 |
| SK_work | well, HW design is pretty good too | 17:29 |
| SK_work | :) | 17:29 |
| SK_work | the OS is awesome | 17:29 |
| SK_work | and very hacker-friendly | 17:29 |
| jcbjoe_ | are you in the uk ? | 17:30 |
| jcbjoe_ | i convered the jolla phone from euro to us dollars and was like o_O < -- i litterally made that face lmao | 17:31 |
| SK_work | I'm in FR | 17:31 |
| SK_work | it is expensive yeah | 17:32 |
| SK_work | rather expensive for specs etc. | 17:32 |
| jcbjoe_ | i'm going to purchase my phone from ebay decent prices | 17:32 |
| SK_work | but it's nice to help Jolla | 17:32 |
| SK_work | jcbjoe_: you have your N4 | 17:32 |
| jcbjoe_ | yea | 17:32 |
| SK_work | you can enjoy SFOS on the N9 :) | 17:32 |
| jcbjoe_ | whats that SK_work ? | 17:33 |
| sledges | jcbjoe_: where do you live? | 17:33 |
| jcbjoe_ | Sacramento Califorinia .. United Sates | 17:33 |
| jcbjoe_ | States* | 17:33 |
| SK_work | on the N4 | 17:33 |
| SK_work | SFOS = Sailfish OS | 17:33 |
| sledges | jcbjoe_: did you check your jolla modem and mobile data baseband compatibility? | 17:33 |
| SK_work | on the N4 | 17:33 |
| SK_work | jeez | 17:33 |
| locusf | woops yeah it doesn't work in states :/ | 17:34 |
| jcbjoe_ | sledges: yea im on the nexus4 using the sailfish os i use it as a daily driver daily | 17:34 |
| sledges | only 2G or it doesn't work at all? | 17:34 |
| sledges | jcbjoe_: im talking about Jolla phone | 17:34 |
| jcbjoe_ | dosen't it get 3g ? | 17:35 |
| sledges | that you are about to buy from ebay | 17:35 |
| locusf | 2g only in Canada | 17:35 |
| locusf | afaik | 17:35 |
| SK_work | Jolla is only 2G in the states | 17:35 |
| SK_work | IIRC | 17:35 |
| sledges | right | 17:35 |
| locusf | ah ok | 17:35 |
| sledges | for canada | 17:35 |
| sledges | now what about states? | 17:35 |
| jcbjoe_ | i thought it only dosen't get LTE | 17:35 |
| SK_work | sledges: I think it's the same | 17:36 |
| SK_work | not 100% sure | 17:36 |
| sledges | best to double-check on #jollamobile | 17:36 |
| jcbjoe_ | thanks sledges | 17:36 |
| locusf | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1451741&postcount=163 | 17:37 |
| locusf | also tmo | 17:37 |
| locusf | but thats of course again unofficial :) | 17:37 |
| sledges | ok, good we give early-warning to jcbjoe_ | 17:38 |
| locusf | yep | 17:39 |
| locusf | I didn't know when I recommended dfos to him :) | 17:39 |
| jcbjoe_ | sledges: well i will even so i can donate my jolla to the cause right and i can help with the nexus 4 and help out with other phones and we can get them up and running right ? | 17:40 |
| jcbjoe_ | i like giving back | 17:40 |
| SK_work | jcbjoe_: helping with porting to phones is important indeed :) | 17:41 |
| sledges | jcbjoe_: sure, and you can always carry around two phones with multiSIM, using one's 3G/LTE as WiFi hotspot to Jolla ^_^ | 17:42 |
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| jcbjoe_ | sledges: are there other tricks we don't know about | 17:59 |
| jcbjoe_ | :P | 18:00 |
| sledges | ryukafalz: jcbjoe_: pkcon install jolla-devicelock-plugin-encsfa | 18:00 |
| sledges | is the correct one | 18:00 |
| jcbjoe_ | sledges: is there a list of stuff that i can look up ? | 18:00 |
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| ryukafalz | sledges: that worked, thanks :) | 18:02 |
| * jcbjoe_ needs to get his n4 that is charging | 18:02 | |
| sledges | great! jcbjoe_ this particular one is a bug, not a trick ;) | 18:02 |
| jcbjoe_ | oh ok | 18:02 |
| sledges | jcbjoe_: have you checked this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/qa-sailfish-n4-thread-devices-t2727330 (cc ryukafalz ) | 18:03 |
| jcbjoe_ | bookmakred thanks sledges | 18:04 |
| ryukafalz | ahh, I have not seen that one - didn't think to look at xda, I'm mostly around TMO and here | 18:05 |
| sledges | the information is everywhere 8) | 18:05 |
| ryukafalz | I'll have to ask around re: a few things there, I can't seem to get camera working but it's listed as working on the adaptations table | 18:06 |
| sledges | ryukafalz: if you use two latest releases, camera works there | 18:06 |
| sledges | u9 and u8 | 18:06 |
| sledges | do you get a picture? | 18:07 |
| sledges | (i'm asking literally, not figuratively:)) | 18:07 |
| ryukafalz | sledges: I'm using 1.0.8.19, how would I see what update version I'm on? | 18:08 |
| sledges | ryukafalz: that's sailfishos update8 | 18:08 |
| ryukafalz | (and no, the camera app just crashes on start) | 18:08 |
| ryukafalz | ah, okay | 18:08 |
| sledges | ryukafalz: where did you download the .zip from if you remember? | 18:08 |
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| sledges | was it EA4 ? | 18:08 |
| ryukafalz | it was EA3, manually updated. bit of a frankenstein. :P | 18:09 |
| ryukafalz | is there an official EA4 image? | 18:09 |
| ryukafalz | there wasn't when I'd last checked | 18:09 |
| sledges | so EA3 was update7, and you updated it to u8 manually? | 18:09 |
| sledges | that would explain things | 18:09 |
| ryukafalz | manually as in, ssu re 1.0.8.19, etc | 18:10 |
| sledges | yeap, not supported ;) | 18:10 |
| ryukafalz | figured as much ;) | 18:10 |
| sledges | time for wipe?:) | 18:10 |
| sledges | we also have multirom support now | 18:10 |
| ryukafalz | I suppose so, haha | 18:10 |
| ryukafalz | was something updated beyond what's tracked by the package manager? | 18:11 |
| sledges | hardware adaptation | 18:11 |
| ryukafalz | hmm | 18:12 |
| jcbjoe_ | sledges: that worked .. thanks | 18:12 |
| ryukafalz | are the ks files for the EA* images available? | 18:12 |
| sledges | \o/ | 18:12 |
| sledges | no, only last community one | 18:12 |
| ryukafalz | oh, that would explain why I couldn't find it - it's not an official image | 18:13 |
| ryukafalz | this one presumably? http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/development/rom-sailfish-os-community-port-t2969823 | 18:13 |
| sledges | correct | 18:13 |
| ryukafalz | was also done well after I updated haha | 18:13 |
| ryukafalz | I'll have to give that one a try though :) | 18:14 |
| sledges | surething! | 18:14 |
| sledges | tell us how goes | 18:14 |
| ryukafalz | will do! | 18:14 |
| ryukafalz | (need to back up my TOTP tokens first though, the backup system won't catch those and they're kind of mission critical :P) | 18:14 |
| sledges | sadly backup doesn't work at all, so a transfer between updates is painful with loss (of messages, photos and unsynced contacts) | 18:15 |
| ryukafalz | oh dang wait it doesn't? | 18:16 |
| ryukafalz | ergh | 18:16 |
| sledges | yes, because it's looking for sd card | 18:16 |
| ryukafalz | I mean, can I just copy the backup dir as a whole to another machine? | 18:16 |
| sledges | is there a backup dir? | 18:17 |
| ryukafalz | I believe so - my phone's rebooting, one sec | 18:17 |
| ryukafalz | sledges: $HOME/.vault | 18:18 |
| sledges | that one is a git repo | 18:19 |
| ryukafalz | hmm... is that where the backup content is stored though or is that something else? | 18:19 |
| sledges | all depends on what backup app says, have you tried running it successfully? | 18:19 |
| ryukafalz | I have, yeah, and it appears to have worked | 18:20 |
| ryukafalz | haven't tried a restore though ;) | 18:20 |
| sledges | cd ~/.vault | 18:20 |
| sledges | git log | 18:20 |
| ryukafalz | "Author: Some Sailor <sailor@jolla.com>" | 18:21 |
| ryukafalz | I do see the image it just created, so seems to be working | 18:21 |
| ryukafalz | this being a git repo makes things interesting actually :P | 18:22 |
| * ryukafalz suddenly has grand thoughts of automated backups to his server | 18:22 | |
| sledges | so if you backup that .vault somewhere, and see how restore function works | 18:23 |
| sledges | hehe:) | 18:23 |
| sledges | and even go as far as cd /home; mv nemo oldnemo; mkdir nemo; cp -r oldnemo/.vault nemo/ ... you catch my drift | 18:24 |
| ryukafalz | ooh, right, good idea | 18:24 |
| sledges | beware it might be annoyed by absence of ~/Pictures et al., so baby steps | 18:24 |
| sledges | you'd be the pioneer of nexus4 backups;) | 18:25 |
| ryukafalz | hehe | 18:25 |
| ryukafalz | I should just be able to xdg-user-dirs-update for anything I'm missing | 18:26 |
| ryukafalz | actually maybe not as that's stored in ~/.config | 18:27 |
| ryukafalz | heh | 18:27 |
| sledges | you can just take /home/nemo from tarball inside the orig .zip | 18:28 |
| sledges | its skeleton | 18:28 |
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| ryukafalz | would have to redownload the EA3 zip, I'll try going without for now :P | 18:29 |
| sledges | ok:) | 18:32 |
| * jcbjoe_ eats chicken and looks on | 18:34 | |
| * ryukafalz is jealous of maguro users looking at the adaptations table | 18:40 | |
| locusf | :) | 18:41 |
| locusf | beidl did most of the work with vakkov | 18:41 |
| ryukafalz | I have a gnex too but it's toro :( | 18:41 |
| ryukafalz | sledges: restore works perfectly :) | 18:43 |
| sledges | nice! on the same update for now :) | 18:44 |
| ryukafalz | (now time to move all my stuff back :P) | 18:44 |
| ryukafalz | indeed | 18:44 |
| sledges | did you fiddle with /home/nemo/ ?;) | 18:44 |
| ryukafalz | yep haha, mv /home/nemo /home/oldnemo; mkdir /home/nemo; chown nemo:nemo /home/nemo; reboot <- really freaking scary | 18:45 |
| ryukafalz | but it works :P | 18:45 |
| sledges | niiice:)) | 18:50 |
| jcbjoe_ | oh wow | 18:51 |
| jcbjoe_ | #jollamobile are all professionals | 18:51 |
| jcbjoe_ | i see why you got us out of there sledges | 18:51 |
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| sledges | jcbjoe_: just staying on-topic, nothing else | 18:52 |
| sledges | hey Tassadar | 18:53 |
| ryukafalz | so -porters would be the right place for discussion of things not currently working on mako, etc. then? | 18:53 |
| sledges | yes, all except jolla phone | 18:53 |
| Tassadar | ^^ | 18:53 |
| ryukafalz | uh oh, can't seem to get past device lock after moving my old home dir back :< | 18:54 |
| sledges | whoeppss:)) | 18:54 |
| ryukafalz | fortunately ssh is still enabled :P | 18:55 |
| sledges | still password protected if you choose;) | 18:55 |
| ryukafalz | key auth ;) | 18:55 |
| ryukafalz | but I guess this, uh, "accelerates" my switch to the community image :P | 18:55 |
| sledges | it's just as good;) | 18:56 |
| ryukafalz | still need to figure out where those TOTP tokens are though, welp | 18:56 |
| sledges | TOTP? | 18:56 |
| ryukafalz | time-based one time password - basically, two-factor auth tokens | 18:56 |
| sledges | not ~/.ssh/authorized_keys? | 18:57 |
| ryukafalz | nope, from an app in harbour - sailotp | 18:57 |
| sledges | oh wow | 18:57 |
| ryukafalz | yeahhhh :P | 18:57 |
| sledges | :) noidea, ask on #sailfishos | 18:57 |
| sledges | :D | 18:57 |
| sledges | one more channel to your toolbox :D | 18:57 |
| sledges | or contact author | 18:57 |
| sledges | is it opensource? ;P | 18:57 |
| ryukafalz | it is, but even if not it's mostly QML so I could inspect it anyway ;) | 18:58 |
| sledges | ;) | 18:58 |
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| ryukafalz | I have a half-working nexus 7 with the keys as well so I'm not totally out of luck if I can't recover them, but it would still be a pain, heh | 19:00 |
| sledges | i think apps use Qt storage facilities | 19:00 |
| locusf | I sure hope they weren't dconf :p | 19:00 |
| sledges | or that :D | 19:00 |
| ryukafalz | I think this one stores them in an encrypted DB somewhere | 19:01 |
| sledges | if it's from openrepos then it can do whatever it wants | 19:02 |
| locusf | no its in store too | 19:02 |
| locusf | but I guess the openrepos version exists too | 19:03 |
| ryukafalz | "import "../lib/storage.js" as DB" | 19:03 |
| ryukafalz | hmmm | 19:03 |
| sledges | lulz | 19:03 |
| ryukafalz | aha | 19:03 |
| ryukafalz | ".import QtQuick.LocalStorage 2.0 as LS" | 19:03 |
| sledges | ah, understandable | 19:04 |
| ryukafalz | so it's sqlite, somewhere- now we're off topic for this channel, I'll stop ;) | 19:05 |
| sledges | :) | 19:05 |
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| vakkov | is the port working on the toro? | 19:10 |
| locusf | ah its the verizon version | 19:11 |
| ryukafalz | I haven't tried - if I were to guess I'd imagine it might, with the exception of CDMA support | 19:11 |
| ryukafalz | verizon/sprint | 19:11 |
| beidl | hello party people | 19:11 |
| beidl | I did read about a toro user wanting a port, I should have asked him to try it, just to see if it boots | 19:11 |
| ryukafalz | now that that's no longer my primary device I may give it a try, heh | 19:12 |
| beidl | nice :) | 19:12 |
| ryukafalz | (as I sit here breaking my primary device) | 19:12 |
| sledges | changes in .zip's update-script needed for codename | 19:12 |
| beidl | ryukafalz: get a Jolla as fallback :) | 19:12 |
| ryukafalz | beidl: that would have been my first choice if it weren't for lack of US 3G and >2x the price ;) | 19:13 |
| ryukafalz | mostly the former though, the latter can be remedied by waiting :P | 19:13 |
| beidl | ryukafalz: I figured that. well, finally "why we can't have nice things" is the other way around :P | 19:13 |
| ryukafalz | I did order a tablet though as 3G isn't an issue there | 19:14 |
| beidl | I'll wait until the tablet is out for implementing a "KDE connect"-like system | 19:16 |
| ryukafalz | I mean... why not KDE connect itself? | 19:16 |
| beidl | ryukafalz: I'll take a look at it and the protocol | 19:17 |
| ryukafalz | -> #sailfishos | 19:19 |
| jcbjoe_ | sledges: you around ? | 19:44 |
| sledges | yeap | 19:44 |
| jcbjoe_ | from my question earlier im still going to get a jolla phone and stay with my nexus 4 ... even if i do get 2g tecnology and get edge gprs thats not bad right ? i don't do a lot of data as it is right now | 19:45 |
| jcbjoe_ | text / phone calls / wifi for data isn't bad right ? | 19:45 |
| sledges | jcbjoe_: go to Settings->System->Mobile Network->Network mode->2G only and you tell me | 19:46 |
| jcbjoe_ | k | 19:46 |
| jcbjoe_ | apn settings are automatic in there right ? | 19:59 |
| sledges | jcbjoe_: have you tried mobile data on nexus4 sailfishos before? | 20:00 |
| jcbjoe_ | sledges: nope | 20:01 |
| jcbjoe_ | sledges: just wlan | 20:01 |
| sledges | you have to provide apn from your operator, if it is not autodetected correctly | 20:01 |
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| jcbjoe_ | ok .. i have the apn settings .. let me let it find it auomatic if it fails i will put them in | 20:04 |
| jcbjoe_ | it found t-mobile | 20:04 |
| jcbjoe_ | sledges: it found it at first but coldn't find it 2x .. how do i put them in manually .. if i pull down it just wnats to search them .. do i have to add them via the terminal ? | 20:09 |
| sledges | press and hold on the first checkbox item under Settings->System->Mobile Network | 20:10 |
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| jcbjoe_ | add to favs ? | 20:11 |
| sledges | edit | 20:12 |
| sledges | checkbox item, which is under "Mobile data" section | 20:12 |
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| sledges | inside that menu | 20:12 |
| jcbjoe_ | i see it | 20:13 |
| ryukafalz | mmh, now that I think about it, I never did get MMS working on my n4 | 20:13 |
| jcbjoe_ | ryukafalz: everyone getting lessons today lol | 20:13 |
| * ryukafalz will wait until he's installed a non-frankenstein image to troubleshoot that more ;) | 20:13 | |
| jcbjoe_ | http://apn-settings.com/t-mobile-apn-settings-step-by-step-configuration/ | 20:14 |
| jcbjoe_ | thanks sledges | 20:14 |
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| jcbjoe_ | i sent the wrong link sorry | 20:22 |
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| Nokius | locusf: no mail today | 20:26 |
| locusf | Nokius: ok | 20:27 |
| Nokius | So immigration is done | 20:42 |
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| Nokius | sledges: did you chance anything today? will add opo tomorrow and check the information of the devices | 20:43 |
| sledges | Nokius: yes, I've been playing in a sandbox, still thinking about proper removal of hardcoded sailfishos, and add ROMs instead: http://sledge.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Devices | 20:43 |
| sledges | thinking to abuse *_supported_versions approach | 20:44 |
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| Nokius | okay | 20:45 |
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| ryukafalz | This is the relevant bug report for lack of bluetooth on mako, correct? https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=779 | 20:56 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 779 in Hybris-ing "[ace] [vision] ofono only talks ril protocol version 7" [Normal,New] | 20:56 |
| sledges | nope | 20:57 |
| kimmoli | sledges: don't drool too much | 20:57 |
| ryukafalz | Hmm, okay... I'm not overly familiar with the sfos bluetooth stack | 20:57 |
| sledges | kimmoli: i might short-circuit it in its current shape-o-form? ;) | 20:58 |
| sledges | ryukafalz: bluez | 20:58 |
| kimmoli | propably | 20:58 |
| ryukafalz | sledges: do you know if there's a bug filed for that anywhere? | 20:58 |
| sledges | ryukafalz: it's not; http://bit.ly/port-bugs | 20:58 |
| ryukafalz | ah, never mind | 20:58 |
| sledges | ryukafalz:) ? | 20:59 |
| ryukafalz | er... never mind my never mind | 21:00 |
| ryukafalz | :P | 21:00 |
| sledges | :D | 21:00 |
| ryukafalz | thought I found it but I was mistaken, haha | 21:00 |
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| sledges | ryukafalz: just file a bug saying "[mako] no can haz bluetooth :(" | 21:01 |
| ryukafalz | haha, I'll do so once I've verified it still doesn't work with u9. adaptations table says it doesn't but who knows if that's up to date. :P | 21:02 |
| * ryukafalz may wait until after finals week to muck around with his device further | 21:03 | |
| sledges | when's that? | 21:03 |
| ryukafalz | thursday's the last day | 21:04 |
| sledges | tomorrow? ;) | 21:04 |
| gogeta | hi guys | 21:04 |
| ryukafalz | indeed :P | 21:04 |
| ryukafalz | \o | 21:04 |
| sledges | ryukafalz: good luck with your remaining finals that you're busy preparing for :D | 21:05 |
| sledges | hi gogeta | 21:05 |
| * ryukafalz should indeed be studying but this stuff is fun ;) | 21:05 | |
| sledges | "sailfishos, successfully derailing prospective students since 2010s" | 21:06 |
| gogeta | hahahah | 21:07 |
| gogeta | 2010s | 21:07 |
| gogeta | two yr before ? | 21:07 |
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| alin | sledges: situ so we do a release? | 21:20 |
| sledges | yes ofc | 21:20 |
| alin | sledges: testing the store now | 21:21 |
| alin | sledges: let us hope we do not get the ghost screen anymore | 21:21 |
| alin | so practically still there is no progress on anything | 21:22 |
| alin | not even theglue for maps? | 21:22 |
| sledges | store works | 21:24 |
| sledges | magnetometer works too | 21:24 |
| alin | sledges: store workds here too | 21:24 |
| alin | sledges: magnetomer works how to test that one? | 21:24 |
| sledges | buy a flipcase | 21:25 |
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| alin | sledges: ok... so untestable | 21:25 |
| alin | sledges: I do not like cases | 21:26 |
| sledges | alin: situ tested | 21:26 |
| alin | especially flipping cases | 21:26 |
| sledges | flippin'.... | 21:26 |
| sledges | :) | 21:26 |
| beidl | (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | 21:27 |
| dwangoAC | beidl: I'mm.. not sure what that is :) | 21:27 |
| dwangoAC | Android that's happy to see you? | 21:27 |
| sledges | q | 21:27 |
| dwangoAC | Oh, wait, those are his arms | 21:27 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: I have flippin' on the mind, I'm trying to organize bringing pinball machines to the Awesome Games Done Quick 2015 charity marathon (for the Prevent Cancer Foundation) | 21:29 |
| sledges | (╯°□°)╯ ︵ɐ||oɾ | 21:29 |
| beidl | ahahaha :D | 21:29 |
| sledges | dwangoAC: you might go in tilt | 21:30 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: Very much so :) | 21:30 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: My part (where I connect TASBot to the controller ports of an SNES and.. um.. abuse it) will happen on Jan. 4th at 5:35 PM EST | 21:31 |
| sledges | fingers cross(compil)ed! | 21:31 |
| sledges | i'll still be on holiday by then | 21:31 |
| sledges | which will about to end | 21:32 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: As in, taking a break but near a computer, or completely away from society? | 21:32 |
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| sledges | we'll see :P | 21:32 |
| sledges | if i can resist :D | 21:32 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: heh | 21:32 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: Well, the marathon runs for an entire week, and there are some really great games on the schedule | 21:32 |
| beidl | sledges: you deserve a long vacation after being the IRC-mutter-für-alles | 21:33 |
| dwangoAC | https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule | 21:33 |
| beidl | for months | 21:33 |
| dwangoAC | My part is listed as TASBot, but I'll probably have them break it up | 21:33 |
| sledges | beidl: thanks but i don't feel like working ;P | 21:34 |
| sledges | SK_work: i remember you admired what dwangoAC is up to ^ | 21:34 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: Oh, I finally got arbitrary code executing on Pokemon Red, it was .. crazy difficult | 21:36 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: The Super Game Boy prevents you from pressing up and down at the same time | 21:36 |
| dwangoAC | And that means that the bit representing binary value 128 and the bit representing binary value 64 can't be pressed at the same time | 21:36 |
| dwangoAC | And a few of the opcodes we need for the Z80-like processor in the Game Boy are in that range | 21:37 |
| dwangoAC | So we read input a nibble at a time instead (yep, 4 whole bits a frame) | 21:37 |
| * sledges feels hungry now | 21:38 | |
| dwangoAC | Heh | 21:39 |
| dwangoAC | Not that kind of nibble | 21:39 |
| sledges | that got bit? :P | 21:39 |
| dwangoAC | I've seen people spell it nybble though (always looked strange to me) | 21:39 |
| sledges | not even in mortal combat one needs to press up and down simultaneously ;P | 21:39 |
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| dwangoAC | sledges: Well, we set up a simple routine to read the value on the controller port address and write it to a position in memory and advance one spot, then repeat, so we can write a sequence of bytes / a series of opcodes / execute arbitrary code | 21:40 |
| dwangoAC | sledges: But the SGB prevents U+D and L+R, which means some of the hex values we want at that memory position are impossible | 21:40 |
| dwangoAC | So, we made it possible by taking twice as long and performing a SUB | 21:41 |
| sledges | crafty | 21:42 |
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