| MSameer | i was wondering too but he left quickly | 00:58 |
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| lpotter | ya, compass.. hmmmm... | 01:02 |
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| carepack | moin! | 07:02 |
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| lpotter | sledges: ping | 07:33 |
| sledges | lpotter: pong | 07:57 |
| sledges | all: it was nexus5 that itdoesntmatt_ had | 07:57 |
| locusf | morning | 08:00 |
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| sledges | https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/604188149066108928 | 08:42 |
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| stephg | ningles | 08:55 |
| sledges | doing! | 08:56 |
| stephg | all things well? | 08:56 |
| stephg | (it's Friday and all that) | 08:56 |
| sledges | sitas | 08:57 |
| sledges | ignore me, screen session went bonkers :D (it -is- friday!) | 08:58 |
| sledges | raining cats'n'dogs otherwise | 08:58 |
| stephg | hehe yeah the heavens are about to open here and I work with idiots, but other than that life is also grand ;) | 08:59 |
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| nh1402 | it doesn't sound like Google open sourced ARC :-(, anyone watch the event who can confirm? | 09:25 |
| sledges | they just mentioned iOS interop | 09:30 |
| nh1402 | what does that mean :P | 09:34 |
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| sledges | they didn't even mention running android apps via chrome, unless i missed that | 09:41 |
| nh1402 | I'm watching the event now, so I have no idea. I did check the googlesource page and they did make one huge commit to arc, but the document still says only a small set of objects is available currently. | 09:43 |
| locusf | eh | 09:51 |
| locusf | that sucks | 09:51 |
| nh1402 | looks like we have to make it ourselves | 09:52 |
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| nh1402 | locusf you're the one whose making the aosp5 thing for lg g3 right?, I was thinking we could start by modify surfaceflinger to write to a wl_surface instead of using opengl | 09:53 |
| locusf | nh1402: not for g3 no, for sony stuff | 09:54 |
| nh1402 | right my bad. Would you think surfaceflinger would work if we made it write to a wl_surface instead?, or would it just crash | 09:55 |
| locusf | I have no idea, since I don't know wayland or surfaceflinger | 09:57 |
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| morphis | MSameer: https://bpaste.net/show/c8a674c6d838 | 10:35 |
| morphis | MSameer: with https://bpaste.net/show/52372080f02d | 10:37 |
| morphis | seems like its not picking up droidmedia for the camera | 10:37 |
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| ruthenianboy | Hi all. Returning to porting after longer time. Looks like i will need to start from begining :( | 10:44 |
| morphis | MSameer: so after dropping the v4l2 camera plugin gst doesn't pick up the droid one and complains that it can't find any suitable one | 10:50 |
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| BBXTR | Hola Homres | 11:28 |
| BBXTR | Anyone worked with the Sailfish OS 2.0 on Nexus 5 yet? | 11:29 |
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| locusf | BBXTR: we gotta wait till July | 11:34 |
| sledges | ruthenianboy: welcome back aboard | 11:41 |
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| MSameer | morphis: which app are you using? | 12:02 |
| MSameer | morphis: ah ok. sec! | 12:03 |
| MSameer | morphis: export QT_GSTREAMER_CAMERABIN_SRC=droidcamsrc | 12:03 |
| BBXTR | July it is? Meh, I would hope the battery life's fixed by them ... R U having the same issue? The battery drains too fast on Alpha 11 SF? | 12:11 |
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| klopsi-u3 | maybe i will try building sfos for droid 4 when 2.0 is released | 13:03 |
| klopsi-u3 | i wonder, is there a possibility for hardware keyboard support? | 13:03 |
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| tathhu | AFAIK TOHKBD is somehow supported so why not? | 13:23 |
| tathhu | But again, I have no idea why I'm even on this channel. | 13:23 |
| dr_gogeta86 | locusf, did you have lg g3 ? | 13:31 |
| locusf | dr_gogeta86: no I don't have it | 13:32 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but why change surfaceflinger ? | 13:32 |
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| locusf | dunno | 13:33 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i didn't understand the period | 13:33 |
| tathhu | yolo? :D | 13:33 |
| locusf | hahhaha sure for yoloz | 13:33 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I was stopped due work reason | 13:33 |
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| locusf | tathhu: pester cxl000 and me to do n7 port? | 13:40 |
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| tathhu | locusf: yeah, make it work so I can use it :P | 13:48 |
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| nh1402 | dr_gogeto86: I was saying to change surfaceflinger so it works on top of lipstick with no problems, for android app support, if Google aren't going to open source ARC then we can make our own app compatibility layer | 13:53 |
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| ruthenianboy | So still no support for android apps on non-jolla devices? I was not checking updates for long time | 14:53 |
| nh1402 | ruthenianboy: well quicksilver (chromium for sailfish) is quite promising as we can get the ARC Welder or ARChon extension working on it, but we're waiting on Sailfish to support gcc 4.8 | 14:55 |
| nh1402 | whichever comes first, making one my/ourselves, fully open source ARC, gcc4.8 on sailfish, or input working on CM from within Sailfish | 14:57 |
| locusf | what about 4.8? | 15:08 |
| locusf | we can use mers toolchain for that | 15:09 |
| nh1402 | you need gcc 4.8 to get a version of chromium that's compatible with ARC | 15:10 |
| locusf | ok | 15:11 |
| locusf | I do have the toolchain enabled in one of my targets | 15:11 |
| locusf | but the vm it sits on is on a broken host | 15:12 |
| locusf | (power button not working lol) | 15:12 |
| sledges | -> donations to repair locusf build host? :D | 15:12 |
| nh1402 | the other thing with quicksilver is that NaCl is not currently enabled, and will need some work to get it working | 15:13 |
| locusf | sledges: :D no need, already ordered a better chassis :) | 15:13 |
| sledges | ah right, you have you thesis valuated soon;) | 15:14 |
| locusf | yep on monday | 15:14 |
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| locusf | last thing I need to do (hopefully) | 15:14 |
| sledges | (yn) | 15:15 |
| nh1402 | locusf: https://github.com/martinbrook/quicksilver/blob/master/README.md | 15:16 |
| nh1402 | and the main repo being here: https://github.com/tworaz/quicksilver | 15:16 |
| locusf | baaah | 15:18 |
| locusf | patching qt :/ | 15:18 |
| locusf | Jolla moving to 5.5 will take years | 15:18 |
| locusf | nh1402: oh yeah nacl | 15:19 |
| nh1402 | and I have no idea about that qt stuff, or the work needed to get NaCl working. | 15:21 |
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| nh1402 | yangm: it's as if you're reading the log and saw that we were talking about android app compatibility | 15:25 |
| yangm | nh1402, hehe | 15:25 |
| yangm | what are the news? | 15:25 |
| nh1402 | back, well nothing new on the quicksilver front, ARC was NOT fully open sourced yesterday at the keynote so there's nothing new there either, and nothing new on the CM on Sailfish front either | 15:40 |
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| nh1402 | I was saying we should try and modify surfaceflinger so it draws to a wl_surface instead of directly to opengl so it can work on top of lipstick | 15:42 |
| alin | locusf: Monday is INternational Children's Day tell them to be nice to you | 15:44 |
| locusf | alin: hahahah :D | 15:44 |
| nh1402 | yangm_: once I can figure out how many different c++ files need changing to get it drawing to wl_surface then I need to figure how to build it and test to see if it even works. we could try extracting surfaceflinger from gentroid as that seemed to have drawn the android app to the weston compositor | 15:50 |
| yangm_ | nh1402, do you think it's better than messing with drivers/roaming between both WMs? | 15:55 |
| yangm_ | I was thinking about creating an emulated display that would forward to android | 15:56 |
| yangm_ | like an Xforward, vnc, etc | 15:56 |
| yangm_ | but that may be laggier | 15:56 |
| nh1402 | well if we do it via modifying surfaceflinger, then we'll need to find a new way of getting android input, possibly borrowing from ARC and such, and then creating our own android package installer so it works with ART. | 15:57 |
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| nh1402 | so essentially it'll be something like how alien dalvik works | 15:58 |
| nh1402 | so better integration between Sailfish and android apps. | 15:58 |
| nh1402 | I think the easiest part of that would be porting the android package manager to C++ for Sailfish | 16:03 |
| nh1402 | but is anyone actually willing to help with programming? | 16:14 |
| nh1402 | yangm_: or at the very least we could try and make an input abstraction layer which gets input from sailfish and gives it to inputmanager/eventhub | 16:18 |
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| nh1402 | sledges: yep you were right, no mention of ARC at the keynote | 17:10 |
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| nh1402 | http://seasonofcode.com/assets/files/nitdroid/events.png | 19:30 |
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| yangm | an input abstraction layer would be the best implementation I think | 19:44 |
| yangm | sorry was afk | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | just hack libinput | 19:44 |
| nh1402 | android side? | 19:46 |
| tathhu | locusf: but what about n7 :3 | 19:46 |
| tathhu | lol | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | android side. | 19:46 |
| locusf | tathhu: hh | 19:48 |
| nh1402 | Stskeeps: this file specifically, or the whole folder https://github.com/android/platform_frameworks_base/blob/master/services/core/jni/com_android_server_input_InputManagerService.cpp | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | looking in wrong place | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | there's a concrete libinput | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | it's not jni | 19:53 |
| tathhu | locusf: x) | 19:59 |
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| nh1402 | Stskeeps: kernel level?, finding libinput for android specifically is very hard to find | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | no | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | it's in frameworks/native i believe | 20:04 |
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| nh1402 | https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/native/+/android-5.1.1_r4/libs/input/ | 20:08 |
| nh1402 | Stskeeps: Now I believe I have found the correct location (link above), but I can't make much sense of it. | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | libinput is what gets tied into inputmanagerservice | 20:14 |
| nh1402 | it looks like it only contains code for the touchscreen and a hardware keyboard | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | good start? | 20:16 |
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| nh1402 | possibly, but would need to find out how to get input from wayland and inject it into the methods | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 20:29 |
| nh1402 | the other problem is how to build it | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | same way you'd build a aosp tree | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 20:29 |
| nh1402 | no idea about | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. well, that'll you need to know | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | it's simple. | 20:29 |
| nh1402 | I suppose its not as simple as using ndk-build | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | right | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | but still not too painful | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | just a lot of disk space | 20:30 |
| nh1402 | I''ll be back after I have some dinner | 20:31 |
| alin | n5 dead | 20:33 |
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| Nokius | o/ | 20:37 |
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| sledges | alin_: another one bites the dust? | 20:40 |
| tathhu | rip | 20:42 |
| nh1402 | alin_: what happened | 20:47 |
| Nokius | ofans like Sailfish on the find5 \o | 20:48 |
| alin_ | Nokius: I do not know changed the screen but does not seem to get signal... the rest seems to work | 20:49 |
| alin_ | nh1402: ^ | 20:49 |
| alin_ | sledges: yap good I have two | 20:49 |
| alin_ | sledges: by the way you were based in UK? | 20:49 |
| nh1402 | maybe the ribbon cable is ripped/broken? | 20:50 |
| alin_ | nh1402: I do not know I do not have another to try | 20:50 |
| alin_ | there are two of them both can be funny... the one from the screen or the one from the phone | 20:51 |
| sledges | Nokius: awesome! send hello's from the porters channel! | 21:02 |
| sledges | alin_: yes | 21:02 |
| sledges | (yarp) | 21:02 |
| Nokius | sledges: i did the ask for a find7 port :D I need longer days | 21:03 |
| sledges | :)) and more crew;) | 21:04 |
| alin_ | sledges: ok I will move soon there... if the queen agrees | 21:04 |
| sledges | alin_: where's that too? | 21:04 |
| Nokius | sledges: I have a good one here :) | 21:05 |
| sledges | yay! | 21:05 |
| sledges | then port in two days?; | 21:06 |
| Nokius | sledges: If I have two full days I will do atm I need sleep after I spend 3 days on holidays and went to work for 2 :D | 21:07 |
| nh1402 | how would one get input from wayland? | 21:07 |
| sledges | Nokius: get some little helpers from frankfurt;) | 21:07 |
| Nokius | sledges: I tried to get Lky | 21:09 |
| alin_ | sledges: close to manchester... some lab | 21:11 |
| sledges | i hover around westmidlands occasionally, porters beer in order;) | 21:12 |
| sledges | i wonder if next xda devcon will again land in manchester:) | 21:12 |
| Nokius | sledges: nope states https://twitter.com/XDADevCon/status/592785993918500865 | 21:13 |
| nh1402 | used to live in Northampton a long time ago, funny how that's in the midlands | 21:16 |
| Nokius | sledges: good think we have the find7 have done bacon is working so it's just a matter of me having time | 21:20 |
| sledges | nh1402: are you too uk based? where abouts? south west here | 21:22 |
| sledges | midlands is the closest i can drive up as -far- as north west is concerned | 21:22 |
| nh1402 | south east, just outside London | 21:22 |
| sledges | *usually drive up | 21:22 |
| Nokius | smells like SUG :D | 21:23 |
| Nokius | https://together.jolla.com/question/93253/sug-sailfish-user-groups/ | 21:23 |
| nh1402 | I'll actually going to the South west on Wednesday for an interview | 21:24 |
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| sledges | Nokius: good find! | 21:24 |
| sledges | nh1402: i'll be in finland that week | 21:24 |
| Nokius | attending SUG Berlin in Monday:P | 21:25 |
| Nokius | sledges: have good time :) | 21:25 |
| sledges | Nokius: there's no other alternative :D | 21:25 |
| Nokius | :D | 21:26 |
| sledges | nh1402: with possibility to relocate?:) | 21:28 |
| Nokius | nh1402: good luck for u | 21:28 |
| nh1402 | the position is actually rather strangely a work from home programming role, using remote desktop. The interviewer will be in the South west for business reasons | 21:30 |
| nh1402 | Nokius: thanks | 21:30 |
| sledges | working from home - best of both worlds :) | 21:31 |
| nh1402 | if i get this, it would be my first role and not requiring to travel (a part from the one step from my bed to the chair) would be a bit weird | 21:33 |
| * Nokius cu guys night | 21:34 | |
| sledges | n!n | 21:34 |
| nh1402 | good night Nokius! | 21:35 |
| sledges | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/working_home | 21:35 |
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| nh1402 | in my case the horrible part of that comic is what would hit me hard | 21:39 |
| sledges | nothing's unmanageable;) | 21:39 |
| sledges | the awesome part trades it all off | 21:40 |
| sledges | :) | 21:40 |
| Nokius | :D | 21:40 |
| nh1402 | but I've never experienced the awesome part. I have already experienced the horrible part. | 21:41 |
| * sledges couldn't stand commutes of past 10 | 21:42 | |
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| sledges | years | 21:51 |
| nh1402 | also have to get some code together to show to the interviewer. I have the two apps that I'm working on, but not really sure if my messaging app code is that presentable. | 21:56 |
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| sledges | good incentive to polish it:) | 22:08 |
| nh1402 | well I did rewrite it back in February (the previous version was definitely not presentable) | 22:12 |
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| sledges | good you're following your dream into coding | 22:16 |
| sledges | pretty much how it started for me | 22:17 |
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| tathhu | nh1402: cool ^^ | 22:34 |
| nh1402 | well thats me done for the day, will be busy tomorrow, so I will be back on Sunday | 22:41 |
| nh1402 | enjoy your weekend, good night! | 22:41 |
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| carepack | working from home would be great. i agree and wsh you good luck nh1402 | 23:39 |
| carepack | gn! | 23:49 |
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