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| carepack | morning. fb account closed long time ago. | 06:08 |
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| carepack | nokius: no fb = no party | 06:20 |
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| sledges | yep, no framebuffer(or ofono) = no porty | 08:09 |
| carepack | lol. morning sledges. fit? | 08:19 |
| sledges | to hit :p | 08:27 |
| carepack | ;). Was a few days offline and you ill. Any news about missing mobile network? | 08:38 |
| sledges | carepack: so it's a 100% regression? you could put new rpm to old update and see if it breaks it there. this way we'll know that rpm is at fault and then see which commit broke it | 08:42 |
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| sledges | carepack: on new update: devel-su zypper install -f --download-only jolla-settings-networking | 09:09 |
| sledges | it will then reside within /var/cache/zypp/packages/ | 09:10 |
| sledges | move .rpm to old update and force install it | 09:10 |
| sledges | i hope you're using multirom ;) | 09:10 |
| carepack | no. but only have sfos on my mako | 09:15 |
| sledges | carepack: ok then, which version do you have now? | 09:17 |
| carepack | 1.1.6 | 09:19 |
| carepack | but 1.1.4.* flashable zip is already on device. I'm going throught the steps and we will see | 09:20 |
| sledges | carepack: wait | 09:21 |
| sledges | carepack: on 1.1.6: | 09:21 |
| sledges | ssu ar older https://releases.jolla.com/releases/1.1.4.28/jolla/armv7hl/ | 09:21 |
| sledges | zypper ref older | 09:21 |
| sledges | zypper se -s networking | 09:21 |
| carepack | seems to be easier int his direction | 09:21 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi guys | 11:36 |
| sledges | carepack: any luck? | 11:39 |
| sledges | hoy dr_gogeta86 | 11:39 |
| dr_gogeta86 | how do you do | 11:39 |
| sledges | do you how how? | 11:39 |
| sledges | (my not-english-speaking father always says this:) | 11:39 |
| dr_gogeta86 | :-D | 11:40 |
| dr_gogeta86 | still no luck with g3 | 11:40 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | i've also built pure cyng | 11:41 |
| dr_gogeta86 | nothing just precompiled boots | 11:41 |
| sledges | dr_gogeta86: lg g3 d855 is cm12 | 11:44 |
| sledges | where did you take cm11 for it? | 11:44 |
| sledges | http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/D855_Info | 11:44 |
| dr_gogeta86 | built manually | 11:45 |
| sledges | CM Support: 12, 12.1 | 11:45 |
| sledges | it's not officially supported so may be dragons | 11:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | cm12 path is an hardpath atm | 11:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | or not ? | 11:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I've seen many commits an PR onto libhybris side | 11:46 |
| sledges | pardon? | 11:46 |
| dr_gogeta86 | compatibility with android 5.x blobs | 11:48 |
| sledges | dr_gogeta86: so prebuilt cm11 nightly works? but compiled doesn't? | 11:49 |
| dr_gogeta86 | yep | 11:49 |
| dr_gogeta86 | last cm11 is 4.4.2 | 11:49 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is quiet old but at least everything wokrs | 11:50 |
| sledges | strange why they don't list it among officialy working versions then | 11:50 |
| dr_gogeta86 | found it on xda | 11:51 |
| dr_gogeta86 | the only one I know who built against cm12 / aosp 5.x is locusf | 11:51 |
| locusf | dr_gogeta86: I thought you did too with dory? | 11:55 |
| dr_gogeta86 | was a mix of cm11 with 5.0 blobs | 11:56 |
| locusf | oh ok | 11:56 |
| mal- | locusf: did you make the needed patches for cm12 or just aosp? I was just thinking that maybe I could try to use cm12 as a base just for fun | 11:59 |
| sledges | mal-: and a favour for everyone else;) | 12:02 |
| dr_gogeta86 | +1 | 12:03 |
| locusf | mal-: hmm well al the components I made patches to are essentially aops based | 12:03 |
| dr_gogeta86 | sledges, funny fact ... | 12:03 |
| dr_gogeta86 | cm11 from source doesn't boot at all | 12:04 |
| dr_gogeta86 | sfos at least boot | 12:04 |
| sledges | they must be using some secret sauce in prebuilts, hence no official support | 12:04 |
| dr_gogeta86 | with some rndis problems | 12:04 |
| locusf | mal-: so I could do it for cm12 | 12:04 |
| dr_gogeta86 | even cm12 | 12:04 |
| mal- | locusf: do you want to do it or should I? | 12:05 |
| dr_gogeta86 | mal-, locusf but cm12 or cm12.1 | 12:06 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ? | 12:06 |
| nh1402 | depends which is used in more phones | 12:07 |
| mal- | my device has both, so most likely I would go with 12.1 | 12:07 |
| mal- | looks like 12.1 has had more development activity of those repos | 12:07 |
| locusf | I am rebasing agaisnt 5.1, so cm12.1 it is | 12:19 |
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| krnlyng | nh1402: i am more confident now seems like we can do it after all, the renderer code contains a flag to use a tcp connection instead of a qemu pipe and i think we can just use the normal EGL, GLES1/2 libs in place of the "Translator" libraries, but i am not 100% sure about that, have to try... | 12:52 |
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| nh1402 | krnlyng: excellent news | 12:53 |
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| carepack | sledges: sorry for that. Missing mobile network sems to be only in my latest 1.1.6.* build. I have one before also 1.1.6.* and with this mobile network looks like it should. But screen rotating seems to be wired inside apps from time to time. You can't rotate the app back to normal orientation | 13:07 |
| sledges | carepack: step a at a time | 13:08 |
| sledges | we're now dealing with mobile network (most important issue) | 13:08 |
| sledges | did you do the zypper steps i asked, on 1.1.6 ? | 13:09 |
| carepack | it seems that the problem isn't a problem. I have two 1.1.6.* builds. one of them is missing mobile network the other not. So I would first generate a third build to confirm if it's really a problem or not. You know if others also affected by this? | 13:11 |
| sledges | ah | 13:13 |
| sledges | i missed the word "also" in your prev line, sorry:) | 13:13 |
| carepack | np :-) | 13:13 |
| sledges | nexus5 is fine | 13:13 |
| carepack | ok. maybe a failed build only. I bake a new one ;) | 13:14 |
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| yangm | nh1402, I hope they are going to fix my Nexus 5 before Nexus 5 2015 is released | 16:16 |
| nh1402 | there is the off chance that they can't fix it and since they don't make anymore, give you a nexus 6 | 16:16 |
| yangm | but Nexus 6 is made by big M | 16:19 |
| yangm | I don't think they are that awesome in Brazil | 16:20 |
| nh1402 | considering the violently high import tax probably not. | 16:21 |
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| yangm | it's not even sold officially here | 16:25 |
| nh1402 | yangm: have you been checking the logs lately? | 16:30 |
| yangm | nope, it's been a long time I don't log in | 16:30 |
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| yangm | thinking about setting up a irc bouncer though | 16:31 |
| nh1402 | there's some good news and some bad news on the android compatibility front. | 16:31 |
| nh1402 | good news: apkenv now works on Sailfish | 16:36 |
| nh1402 | bad news: it doesn't work on the nexus 5 | 16:36 |
| nh1402 | yangm:^ | 16:36 |
| yangm | ouch | 16:37 |
| yangm | can you give me some links? | 16:37 |
| yangm | I wonder how well would sailfish run on a 1st gen moto e | 16:38 |
| nh1402 | yangm: here's the spec file you can use to build it. https://github.com/thp/apkenv/tree/master/platform/sailfish/rpm | 16:38 |
| nh1402 | krnlyng: how's it going? | 16:40 |
| krnlyng | nh1402: crashes over crashes, i stopped for now, because i have do do some uni stuff | 16:40 |
| nh1402 | krnlyng: no problem, anything you'd like me to look into, any code you've been working on or something? | 16:41 |
| krnlyng | hm | 16:42 |
| krnlyng | all the code i am using is in the android sources... | 16:45 |
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| nh1402 | I'll have another look at the renderer code and see if I can understand how it works. | 16:48 |
| nh1402 | yangm: if you're wondering what we're talking about it's about chroot-ing into the android emulator image, while also using the emulator's renderer so we can see things. For the moment the renderer in linux uses x11 so work would have to be done to get it working for wayland. | 16:51 |
| yangm | it actually works? | 16:52 |
| nh1402 | but since n9/n950 run harmattan which uses x11 and not wayland we can at least use that to test it | 16:52 |
| nh1402 | not yet. krnlyng has been looking at building the renderer and the emulator image and getting it working for his n9 but no luck as of yet. | 16:53 |
| krnlyng | actually i have been using xwayland + jolla, but i am gonna try it on my n9 some time... | 16:57 |
| nh1402 | ah right | 16:58 |
| situ | sledges: time for bug triage ? | 17:06 |
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| Nokius | carepack: u are right have no fb since 5years sledges wa is fb so i don't have it | 17:08 |
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| Nokius | <-- for ever alone | 17:11 |
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| yangm | nh1402, in the meantime, I installed El Capitan on my macbook | 17:12 |
| yangm | can't believe I used to live with Yosemite | 17:12 |
| nh1402 | I can't believe you have a macbook | 17:14 |
| Nokius | :) | 17:20 |
| sledges | situ: still around? sidetracked again soz | 17:35 |
| sledges | anyone else up for bug squashing? vgrade nh1402 | 17:36 |
| nh1402 | sure why not | 17:36 |
| sledges | sec | 17:36 |
| sledges | PSA: @#mer-meeting | 17:37 |
| yangm | nh1402, I used to have a hackbook, an asus running OS X | 17:41 |
| yangm | this OS is too damn good | 17:41 |
| Nokius | :s | 17:42 |
| krnlyng | nh1402: on the n9 it does not crash (after a few hacks) but i fear it will not work because i had to do some bad stuff... | 17:42 |
| sledges | carepack: ping | 17:45 |
| carepack | pong | 17:45 |
| nh1402 | krnlyng: what bad things | 17:45 |
| Nokius | carepack: check #mer-meeting | 17:45 |
| sledges | carepack: could you create a mer bugzilla account pls? (i can't find your user there, even though you have one on obs, strange) | 17:46 |
| Nokius | one question about mako | 17:46 |
| carepack | sledges: ok | 17:47 |
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| carepack | https://bugs.merproject.org/report.cgi ? | 17:50 |
| carepack | account exists already | 17:51 |
| krnlyng | nh1402: disabled pbuffer, disabled gles2 | 17:51 |
| sledges | carepack: carepack i can't find it :( | 17:52 |
| carepack | can you search via email? | 17:52 |
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| sledges | carepack: i can search via real name too | 17:54 |
| sledges | pm me your username | 17:54 |
| sledges | or email | 17:54 |
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| SkyFall | Hello, I have Xperia Z2. Its specs are: Snapdragon 801 SoC, Exmor 20,7MP Camera, propertary modem, etc. Is there any possibility to build Hybris and HAL for this right now? | 18:03 |
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| sledges | SkyFall: yes, there is cm11 support for it ( http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Sirius_Info ) | 18:07 |
| sledges | and hello :) | 18:07 |
| sledges | carepack: pls login to bugs.nemomobile.org - looks like you never have | 18:08 |
| sledges | (same credentials) | 18:08 |
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| SkyFall | Hi sledges :3 From what I read on mer wiki and XZ porter's blog there was some problem with getting modem working with GUI | 18:09 |
| SkyFall | Okay, logging into nemo bugtracker | 18:09 |
| sledges | SkyFall: that message was for carepack ;) | 18:09 |
| SkyFall | ay, this was for carepack, now I can see it. Sorry sitting in front of CRT with kinda tired eyes >.< | 18:09 |
| sledges | SkyFall: maybe eyes are tired because of CRT? ;) | 18:10 |
| SkyFall | Too. Hybris can be based on CM11? Most ports I seen were based on CM10.1 | 18:10 |
| sledges | SkyFall: there will always be challenges after you get to GUI, we're here to help (also extensive knowledge in links in topic, especially dev faq wrt your concern) | 18:10 |
| sledges | SkyFall: currently 11.0 is main choice (also best -released- port so far is nexus5) | 18:11 |
| * sledges eyes mal- | 18:11 | |
| sledges | (nexus5 - on 11.0 | 18:11 |
| sledges | SkyFall: XZ porters? | 18:11 |
| SkyFall | Nexuses always get best ports. by XZ i meant Xperia Z | 18:11 |
| SkyFall | source of that info: http://piratepad.net/hadk-yuga | 18:12 |
| sledges | ah, well sometimes even same model variant has completely different modem | 18:12 |
| sledges | ;) | 18:12 |
| sledges | SkyFall: are modem chips identical on z and z2? | 18:12 |
| situ | sledges: I was having dinner. | 18:13 |
| nh1402-mobile | well Z series has Sony AOSP project thing | 18:13 |
| sledges | oleid (yuga porter) got carried away with his thesis, his last info that modem was poorly even on 4.4 androids (cm11), and yuga is much more aged than z2 | 18:14 |
| SkyFall | They're similiar in terms of software propably, but chips can't be identical, I think as Qualcomm has its chips built into SoCes in most of devices | 18:14 |
| sledges | if talking about yuga, given cm11 hickups there was an idea to try cm12 | 18:14 |
| SkyFall | AOSP for Z2 is active only under lollipop | 18:14 |
| sledges | but we're not ready with 12 base yet, so z2 would first go on 11 | 18:15 |
| sledges | not much effort to later jump onto hybris-12 bandwagon | 18:15 |
| sledges | SkyFall: pretty sure most phones since that release date are most active on aosp5 and related offsprings | 18:15 |
| SkyFall | Well, I think I will try with FXP build as they have more stable build than the CM's buildbot outs | 18:16 |
| sledges | SkyFall: yuga (oleid) also used fxp | 18:16 |
| sledges | for porting | 18:16 |
| sledges | last info from him: I noticed rild behaving strangely even on Android 4.4, e.g. 3g network | 18:16 |
| sledges | doesn't work for me while LTE does. But it seems to work on android 5.x. | 18:16 |
| sledges | and he didn't test much on 4.2 (he reflashed straight on 4.4) | 18:17 |
| SkyFall | Well, lollipop's kernel is shit IMO. My device got so hot with CM12 and CM12.1 | 18:17 |
| SkyFall | And CM12 is still in development, so I guess things may get better in time | 18:17 |
| sledges | well, each kernel to its own device ;) | 18:17 |
| SkyFall | Yup. I wonder how well can Exmor blobs work with hybris | 18:19 |
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| sledges | situ: my bad i was away afk :} | 18:24 |
| situ | sledges: No problems. | 18:25 |
| SkyFall | One more question. hadk builds include dalvik? | 18:27 |
| sledges | SkyFall: nope | 18:27 |
| sledges | only android HALs are needed | 18:27 |
| SkyFall | But android apps won't run on it then as they do on jolla phone. | 18:28 |
| sledges | SkyFall: jolla phone has android ACL from myriad, separate project/build , unrelated to hardware adaptation | 18:28 |
| sledges | (it still ties into particular hw though, but not from same tree) | 18:29 |
| sledges | you can even have 4.4 hadk port with 4.2 aliendalvik in theory | 18:29 |
| SkyFall | Okay. I'm kinda newbie here. | 18:30 |
| sledges | SkyFall: http://bit.ly/port-faq and nh1402-mobile & friends on here have lots of progress in that are recently | 18:30 |
| sledges | *area | 18:30 |
| tathhu | anyone knows if there's any progress on nexus 7 2013 (i care more about lte version..) | 18:31 |
| SkyFall | sledges Okay, mate. Thanks for now, i will try to build something during weekend and share my results. | 18:33 |
| sledges | SkyFall: cheers! and welcome aboard:) | 18:33 |
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| * Nokius likes feh | 18:38 | |
| sledges | feh | 18:41 |
| * sledges likes too | 18:41 | |
| sledges | and mupdf | 18:41 |
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| Nokius | sledges: thanks will check | 18:50 |
| sledges | and gnumeric | 18:50 |
| * Nokius so just the screen and some wires hahaha | 18:50 | |
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| just486 | hai guys! I'm just here to ask, how is Sailfish developement going for Nexus 5? Is there a new version excepted in the near future? I heard that there is not going to be another alpha, so beta images are coming. | 19:06 |
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| sledges | just486: developer preview image is already available for quite a while for testers (using latest sailfishos release) | 19:10 |
| sledges | would be nice to iron out one stability bug | 19:11 |
| sledges | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=820 | 19:11 |
| merbot | Nemo bug 820 in Hybris-ing "[hammerhead][alpha11][sensors] random crashes" [Major,Needinfo] | 19:11 |
| sledges | just486: wanna try it out? | 19:18 |
| just486 | i see. unfortunately with android 5, google took away the easy way to root my phone, so i didn't plan to install Sailfish again for some time. | 19:22 |
| sledges | just486: sailfish doesn't need root on any phone | 19:22 |
| just486 | i have always installed it as a secondary rom with Tassadars Multi ROM, thats why I need root | 19:23 |
| sledges | just486: what you're saying is that android 5 deprived you from using multirom? | 19:24 |
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| alin | sledges: and fortran | 19:28 |
| just486 | no, not at all | 19:28 |
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| sledges | just486: then you lost me | 19:29 |
| sledges | alin: minimum:) | 19:29 |
| alin | sledges: do you have a link for the sdk? | 19:29 |
| just486 | before 5.0 i was able to root my phone with towelroot (so i did not lose any userdata with rooting) and then i could install MultiROM manager from play store | 19:29 |
| sledges | alin: http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/latest/targets/targets.json or #sailfishos type of question? ;) | 19:30 |
| just486 | now, with 5.0 rooting isnt as easy as installing one apk, i have to unlock the bootloader (that wipes userdata) and then flash super su, to acquire root privileges | 19:30 |
| sledges | just486: oh crumbs, didn't know that thanks for info; so i reckon you installed aosp5 and went on with it:) | 19:31 |
| sledges | just486: no way to get nandroid's help into the picture? | 19:31 |
| spiiroin_ | review/testing appreciated: some mce-sensorfwd ipc error handling fixes - might help with some obscure problems https://github.com/nemomobile/mce/pull/293 | 19:33 |
| alin | sledges: hadk... sorry... | 19:33 |
| alin | spiiroin_: ok... the only one I have seen lately was stop working after a while | 19:34 |
| carepack | sledges: Logged in | 19:34 |
| just486 | yes, there are backup solutions, to presevre user data, but my point is, that with towel root and MultiRom Manager it was fast ant painful to get Sailfish on board, now it's a bit more complicated | 19:35 |
| sledges | carepack: you got mail ;) | 19:35 |
| sledges | just486: yep, although multirom is worth every penny/pain/drop of blood :) you can test multiple versions of sfos (like dev preview), and keep an eye on other cool projects (webos, ffos, is ubuntu touch available via multirom?) | 19:36 |
| tathhu | just486: that's why i always unlock bootloader before doing anything | 19:36 |
| sledges | tathhu: just486: yes, i didn't and locked myself out for a year until they cracked hboot of htc wildfire back in the days :D | 19:37 |
| sledges | lbt: could we have 1.1.6 on Mer OBS pls? already jumped one version ;) | 19:39 |
| just486 | sledges yes, ubuntu touch is available via MultiROM, but the OS itself is a struggle to use | 19:47 |
| sledges | i heard it had an update today, on nexus5 too | 19:47 |
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| just486 | you mean ubuntu? | 19:52 |
| sledges | yes | 19:53 |
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| just486 | yea, i don't know much about that, im not really interested in ubuntu touch | 20:02 |
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| just486 | at first i got really excited, but using ubuntu touch isnt the experience i expercted | 20:04 |
| tathhu | yeah | 20:05 |
| tathhu | webapps, webapps everywhere | 20:05 |
| just486 | anyways, isn't anybody else considering, that sailfish for nexus 5 operates with somehow too slow animations? | 20:05 |
| sledges | just486: here's the early dev preview of sfos: http://1drv.ms/1C6QRWM if you decide to take a plunge, otherwise check back often:) | 20:06 |
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| sledges | thanks alin for the hard work | 20:07 |
| sledges | just486: if you compare to jolla phone, that might be because animations need to transition through physically more pixels due to resolution:) | 20:10 |
| just486 | yes | 20:10 |
| sledges | you're the first to point out, then jolla tablet should suffer from such thing too | 20:10 |
| sledges | but no-one complained so far:) | 20:10 |
| just486 | would it be a bad idea to scale up animation speed, to move faster? | 20:11 |
| sledges | it should scale up proportionally to pixel density | 20:11 |
| sledges | so yes, sounds like a good idea | 20:12 |
| just486 | thats one of the things i cant get used to when using sailfish on my nexus | 20:13 |
| sledges | just486: i just benchmarked | 20:13 |
| sledges | holding jolla phone in one hand | 20:14 |
| sledges | nexus5 in another | 20:14 |
| sledges | click on "System" in setting app simultaneously | 20:14 |
| sledges | nexus5 wins for page transition | 20:14 |
| just486 | hm | 20:14 |
| sledges | so maybe you're talking about some other animations i don't know | 20:14 |
| just486 | anf what happens when you scroll form task view to apps page? | 20:14 |
| just486 | that was the transition i mainly noticed as too slow | 20:15 |
| sledges | just486: enable FPS meter | 20:15 |
| sledges | (in developer mode) | 20:15 |
| sledges | there can be frames dropped | 20:15 |
| sledges | scrolling is not perfectly optimised yet | 20:15 |
| sledges | but that's not an animation as such | 20:15 |
| just486 | quick reminder: i don't have sailfish installed on my phone atm | 20:15 |
| sledges | just486: just remembered ;P | 20:15 |
| sledges | framedrops in scrolling is a fact, but happens on jolla phone too; depends on system load | 20:16 |
| sledges | nexus5 hwcomposer will also get some love this summer | 20:16 |
| sledges | as that sometimes underperform even under light system load, as long as scrolling is concerned | 20:16 |
| nh1402-mobile | well the jolla tablet has an x86 CPU, and i believe a powervr gpu , so it should be able to handle it | 20:17 |
| just486 | i didnt notice any framedops or "lagas" that annoyed me | 20:17 |
| sledges | hmmm | 20:17 |
| just486 | lags* | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | nh1402-mobile: no, hd graphics | 20:18 |
| just486 | animations were smooth enoug, just happened slow to my eyes/tasting maybe | 20:18 |
| sledges | just486: just benchmarked - transition is same speed jp vs n5 :) | 20:19 |
| sledges | then maybe can be blamed on screen size and einstein :) | 20:19 |
| Nokius | night | 20:22 |
| sledges | n!n | 20:23 |
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| nh1402-mobile | Stskeeps: they didn't really make it clear which comes with hd graphics and which come with powervr | 20:25 |
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| just486 | have to go now, see you soon | 21:20 |
| just486 | i always keep half of my eyes on Sailfish :D | 21:20 |
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| krnlyng | nh1402: i wrote a small app which listens on a port and displays how much it received and i've managed to patch libEGL_emulation.so such that it sends the command stream over tcp to the listening application | 21:30 |
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| nh1402 | krnlyng: impressive, I don't even know how to do that, yet. | 21:33 |
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| yangm_ | ca | 21:34 |
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| nh1402 | krnlyng: does it still crash then? | 21:47 |
| krnlyng | nh1402: surfaceflinger does not crash anymore | 21:50 |
| krnlyng | nh1402: but the renderer still does | 21:50 |
| nh1402 | some progress then | 21:50 |
| nh1402 | does it say why the renderer crashed? | 21:51 |
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| tathhu | cxl000: any progress on deb? | 22:50 |
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| cxl000 | tathhu, unfortunately renovations are taking up my spare time | 23:24 |
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| tathhu | damn | 23:28 |
| tathhu | cxl000: well, good luck & have fun with that | 23:28 |
| tathhu | or somethin | 23:28 |
| tathhu | g | 23:28 |
| cxl000 | getting towards the end so I remain hopeful of getting back into it. | 23:30 |
| tathhu | yeah, don't know if that builded iamge for flo would work with "some editing" but.. | 23:31 |
| cxl000 | you could try unpacking it, change meta info to deb and check filesystems. extra modem fw partition before user partition | 23:33 |
| cxl000 | other than that deb should be basicly the same as flo | 23:34 |
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| tathhu | managed to change meta info but that's it XD | 23:40 |
| tathhu | lol | 23:40 |
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