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| tathhu | Morning | 03:57 |
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| Nokius | morning | 05:22 |
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| locusf | morning | 06:15 |
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| stephg | m0rn1ng | 06:52 |
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| alin | morgen | 07:33 |
| alin | is there any reason why there is only micky mouse support for proxy? | 07:33 |
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| locusf | grr damn libc x86 | 08:24 |
| alin | locusf: what did you do? | 08:24 |
| locusf | ld: warning: shared library text segment is not shareable | 08:24 |
| locusf | alin: compiling bionic libc | 08:24 |
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| locusf | I've tried to add the --no-warn-shared-textrel but to no avail | 08:25 |
| alin | locusf: strange | 08:25 |
| locusf | also -fPIC | 08:25 |
| alin | locusf: did not see anything like that | 08:25 |
| locusf | alin: have you tried X86 stuff yet? | 08:25 |
| alin | locusf: ... that was the bit I missed | 08:25 |
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| alin | sledges: any way to get a system wide proxy? | 08:27 |
| sledges | alin: nope :( https://together.jolla.com/question/22824/proxy-settings-arent-honoured/ | 08:32 |
| sledges | (sounds like you wrote the question;)) | 08:32 |
| sledges | and http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1409257&postcount=391 | 08:32 |
| alin | sledges: found that things... | 08:34 |
| alin | sledges: the problem is why? is there some ideological reason? to prevent people connecting to merdre corporate networks? | 08:35 |
| sledges | alin: don't ask me, ask the system :) | 08:35 |
| sledges | i.e. i'm surprised there is no follow-up answer from jolla after enabling browser proxy | 08:35 |
| alin | also I wonder why eduroam is not supported... thought in finland they like school... | 08:35 |
| sledges | probably not heavily-enough voted tjc feature | 08:36 |
| sledges | (in both cases) | 08:36 |
| alin | and do not even start me about keeping passwords in clear text in conman | 08:36 |
| alin | connman | 08:36 |
| sledges | connman? i thought they're kept clear everywhere :p | 08:37 |
| alin | sledges: bloody hell... if progress would be some democratic process.. I guarantee we will still be in a cave and eat fruits | 08:37 |
| sledges | ok, let's get it started | 08:38 |
| alin | sledges: blimey... you are right... but then the phone will pass no security audit | 08:44 |
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| sledges | alin: https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords | 08:51 |
| sledges | alin: right about what? | 08:51 |
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| alin | sledges: I am not using pidgin | 08:54 |
| sledges | alin: you are missing the point | 08:54 |
| sledges | or just pulling my leg :DD :P | 08:54 |
| alin | sledges: nope... the fact that they put a list of anonymous software.. some of it even dead... is not an argument of keeping the passwords in clear text | 08:56 |
| sledges | give your arguments after reading the whole article | 08:58 |
| sledges | :P | 08:58 |
| alin | sledges: only fouls and horses will argue about the normality of storing passwords in cleartext | 08:59 |
| alin | "We're 100% fine with people having false perceptions of how insecurely Pidgin handles your passwords. We are not, however, fine with sacrificing actual security for false security." wtf... they were storing the passwords in clear text... | 09:03 |
| sledges | alin: they have to become clear text on their way to server anyway, so if there's a lock, there's a key | 09:07 |
| alin | sledges: as far as I remember not for xmpp | 09:10 |
| alin | sledges: and not for services over https | 09:11 |
| alin | sledges: anyhow I hope you do not start to argue about printing the passwords on t-shirts cause anyhow some stupid services want the password in clear | 09:11 |
| sledges | alin: what is sent over xmpp, and most importantly https? | 09:16 |
| sledges | in first case some hash? | 09:16 |
| sledges | https is just ssl encapsulated http | 09:16 |
| alin | sledges: a cryptographic hash... | 09:19 |
| sledges | does it ever need to be rehashed when key changes? | 09:21 |
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| alin | sledges: no idea about these... | 09:45 |
| alin | sledges: but in fairness the conman configs are root only readable | 09:46 |
| tbr | sledges: please remind people to always include a .ks file with their uploads to idf. | 09:48 |
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| sledges | PSA: STORE IS BACK!!! (for nexus5 , checking nexus4 atm...) | 10:05 |
| sledges | mal-: pls add your .ks file to http://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/iyokan/alpha1/ (thanks tbr) it's ok if it points to local repos, as long as it's there | 10:06 |
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| mal- | sledges: ok | 10:07 |
| mal- | sledges: why does it have to be there? | 10:07 |
| sledges | mal-: so it's at least semi-reproducible | 10:07 |
| mal- | ok | 10:07 |
| sledges | or others can get better ideass | 10:07 |
| sledges | s/ss/s/ | 10:07 |
| sledges | :P | 10:07 |
| tbr | poor mans manifest | 10:09 |
| sledges | hehe | 10:09 |
| tbr | many directories contain a .ks. Should be ofc kept up to date | 10:10 |
| sledges | .ks belong to a release, neither can be updated | 10:11 |
| sledges | except by a newer release | 10:11 |
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| tbr | also by looking at a ks it should be obvious if there are things in the image which are problematic | 10:12 |
| mal- | sledges: tbr it's there now | 10:13 |
| tbr | tnx | 10:13 |
| sledges | nexus4 store doesn't works :{ | 10:14 |
| sledges | account keeps asking to be updated, re-sign-in | 10:14 |
| locusf | argh | 10:15 |
| locusf | do pure adaptation stores work btw? | 10:15 |
| locusf | ie. n9, rpi2? | 10:15 |
| sledges | locusf: ? | 10:15 |
| locusf | non-hybris | 10:15 |
| sledges | locusf: store has no awareness of underlying ha | 10:15 |
| locusf | sledges: oh good | 10:16 |
| locusf | excellent | 10:16 |
| locusf | ha make V=1 -d libc | 10:21 |
| locusf | this might take a while | 10:21 |
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| nh1402 | alin: the thing with encrypting stored passwords is that you then have the same problem with storing the encryption key | 10:32 |
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| ikozzz | Ahoy! | 10:43 |
| sledges | ahoy ikozzz ! long time no c :) | 10:47 |
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| ikozzz | yeah i missed you guys) | 10:56 |
| ikozzz | do you have something to test or help? | 10:57 |
| alin | ikozzz: there is α13 | 10:59 |
| alin | ikozzz: a lot of things work | 10:59 |
| alin | ikozzz: gps crashes the majority of times... | 11:00 |
| alin | ikozzz: sensors eat the batery | 11:00 |
| alin | ikozzz: plus the usual bugs... minus few we fixed | 11:00 |
| ikozzz | alin: can you please give me the latest build? | 11:01 |
| nh1402 | sledges: have you seen this? http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_4.0#head-9aa7c8499b42911a48c02b24f367bf2bc6db8606 now if only all the devices would get linux kernel 4.0 | 11:01 |
| nh1402 | although for the moment it's only working for x86 | 11:03 |
| alin | ikozzz: http://1drv.ms/1JhpBfB | 11:03 |
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| ikozzz | nh1402: there is 4.1 with some Athom support | 11:03 |
| ikozzz | alin: thanks, i will do my best) | 11:04 |
| Mister_Magister | Hi everybody! Can somebody help me please? I have nexus 7 2nd gen (flo) with sailfishos and i cannot allov untrusted software and install apps from store | 11:08 |
| nh1402 | has anyone tried comparing mainline kernel with android kernel on the jolla phone, and used a benchmarking app such as (antutu benchmark for android)to see if there's the performance/battery life difference if any? | 11:11 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: zypper in jolla-devicelock-plugin-encsfe | 11:11 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: store won't work yet, but we are one step closer. user warehouse for openrepos instead for now | 11:11 |
| Mister_Magister | slefges but i cannot install warehouse becasuse i cannot install untrusted software | 11:12 |
| sledges | 14:11 < sledges> Mister_Magister: zypper in jolla-devicelock-plugin-encsfe | 11:14 |
| Mister_Magister | whaat? | 11:15 |
| nh1402 | run that command in fingerterm, or via ssh | 11:16 |
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| sledges | Mister_Magister: you will need to become root for that, use devel-su | 11:26 |
| Mister_Magister | sledges many thanks but i forgot password so i have to reflash xd | 11:28 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: you never set it, create it in Settings->System->Developer mode | 11:30 |
| ikozzz | thanks for SailorGram, i will continue participate in translation! | 11:36 |
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| Mister_Magister | but i cannot enable developer mode :v Porting sailfish to my device can damage it? | 11:40 |
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| ikozzz | Mister_Magister should be enabled by default. Only thing you need to do is to change root password if you want | 11:48 |
| ikozzz | Mister_Magister goto Settings/System/Developer Mode | 11:49 |
| Mister_Magister | i know i know but i disabled it and i cannot reenable | 11:49 |
| ikozzz | oh) me too | 11:51 |
| ikozzz | then easyiest way too reflash i think) lol | 11:51 |
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| ikozzz | *sorry, i think you get what i wrote) | 11:53 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: yes, that's a known bug sadly | 11:53 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: however | 11:53 |
| sledges | you can telnet | 11:53 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: telnet 192.168.2.15 2323 | 11:54 |
| sledges | from your host PC | 11:54 |
| sledges | it won't have password, and from there you can reset nemo password via `passwd nemo` | 11:54 |
| Mister_Magister | many many bugs xD | 11:54 |
| sledges | which will teach you not to disable developer modes on platforms with bugs ;) | 11:55 |
| sledges | :D | 11:55 |
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| nh1402 | not sure if it's just for testing or not but it allows you to change the password to one character. | 11:56 |
| Mister_Magister | i have bugs everywhere :D I cannot set screen lock | 11:56 |
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| Mister_Magister | and telnet failed | 12:00 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: how did it fail? can you ping? | 12:02 |
| Mister_Magister | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out | 12:02 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: ping 192.168.2.15 | 12:04 |
| Mister_Magister | ping failed too | 12:12 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: try 192.168.2.1 | 12:12 |
| sledges | you might have old build where IPs were not all .15 | 12:13 |
| Mister_Magister | turn off wifi network (i have 192.168.1.x ip) | 12:13 |
| Mister_Magister | ? | 12:13 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: no need | 12:15 |
| Mister_Magister | PING 192.168.1.2 (192.168.1.2) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.1.4 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable | 12:16 |
| Mister_Magister | i'm sorry | 12:16 |
| Mister_Magister | 2.1 xD | 12:16 |
| Mister_Magister | 2.1 also not work | 12:16 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: ifconfig usb0 | 12:17 |
| sledges | (all still on your host) | 12:17 |
| Mister_Magister | 0.20 :v | 12:17 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.20 | 12:18 |
| sledges | and try again, but i have a hunch that disabling developer mode surely locked you out for good | 12:18 |
| sledges | yet let's try still | 12:18 |
| Mister_Magister | with sudo? | 12:18 |
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| Mister_Magister | with sudo this command show nothinh | 12:19 |
| Mister_Magister | othing* | 12:19 |
| Mister_Magister | sudo ifconfig usb0 usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 42:49:6b:e7:a3:87 inet addr:192.168.2.20 Bcast:192.168.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 | 12:20 |
| Mister_Magister | telnet 192.168.2.20 2323 | 12:20 |
| Mister_Magister | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused | 12:20 |
| sledges | .20 is your host's | 12:21 |
| sledges | .15 is your tablet's | 12:21 |
| sledges | ping .15 | 12:21 |
| Mister_Magister | From 192.168.2.20 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable | 12:23 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: ping 192.168.2.1 | 12:25 |
| Mister_Magister | i have similar problem with installing when i could not telnet :v | 12:25 |
| Mister_Magister | 2.1 works | 12:25 |
| Mister_Magister | so what now? | 12:26 |
| sledges | oh | 12:26 |
| sledges | telnet 192.168.2.1 2323 | 12:26 |
| Mister_Magister | i said it works | 12:27 |
| Mister_Magister | i can think :v | 12:28 |
| Mister_Magister | and i typed passwd nemo | 12:28 |
| Mister_Magister | and set password | 12:28 |
| sledges | well done | 12:28 |
| sledges | you still have fingerterm even when you disabled dev mode? | 12:29 |
| Mister_Magister | yes | 12:29 |
| Mister_Magister | nope | 12:29 |
| Mister_Magister | xD | 12:29 |
| Mister_Magister | i had but now its gone | 12:30 |
| sledges | lol | 12:30 |
| sledges | probably it was still left ope | 12:30 |
| sledges | n | 12:30 |
| Mister_Magister | so what now? | 12:31 |
| sledges | now you can ssh into device | 12:32 |
| sledges | ssh nemo@192.168.2.1 | 12:32 |
| sledges | with set password | 12:32 |
| Mister_Magister | ssh: connect to host 192.168.2.1 port 22: Connection refused :v | 12:34 |
| Mister_Magister | my device is funny xD | 12:34 |
| sledges | ok means ssh is not back since no dev mode | 12:34 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: then just use telnet | 12:34 |
| sledges | as you have root already there | 12:34 |
| sledges | just type | 12:34 |
| sledges | zypper in jolla-devicelock-plugin-encsfe | 12:34 |
| Mister_Magister | lag :v | 12:35 |
| sledges | it's refreshing repos | 12:35 |
| Mister_Magister | anyway i wanna port sailfish to motorola moto g 2nd gen. It will be hard? | 12:36 |
| sledges | here written the required experience: https://sailfishos.org/hadk | 12:37 |
| Mister_Magister | i know i reading it :v | 12:37 |
| Mister_Magister | but it will be hard? it can damage my device? | 12:37 |
| sledges | in hadk pdf there's a disclaimer about hair loss ;) | 12:38 |
| sledges | etc | 12:38 |
| Mister_Magister | i know it :v | 12:38 |
| sledges | so? | 12:38 |
| sledges | if you are talking about Motorola Moto G 2014 ("titan") | 12:38 |
| sledges | or its LTE counterpart | 12:38 |
| sledges | they have only lollipop support | 12:38 |
| sledges | which is being done for sailfish as we speak, not yet ready | 12:38 |
| Mister_Magister | it will be simple for me (never develop any rom) or i will break everything? | 12:39 |
| Mister_Magister | broke* | 12:39 |
| Mister_Magister | i talking about titan | 12:39 |
| sledges | it will be tough for you then | 12:40 |
| Mister_Magister | No provider of 'jolla-devicelock-plugin-encsfe' found. | 12:40 |
| sledges | oh pardon | 12:41 |
| sledges | jolla-devicelock-plugin-encsfa | 12:41 |
| sledges | (package is still using the old naming..) | 12:41 |
| Mister_Magister | i will try port anyway (maybe you will be able to see me again :v) | 12:42 |
| sledges | but keep checking back and asking when hybris-12.1 branch becomes available, in the meantime do some prep work as per pdf | 12:43 |
| sledges | (you will not be able to go beyond first repo init because of that ^^) | 12:44 |
| Mister_Magister | ok :v | 12:44 |
| Mister_Magister | done | 12:45 |
| Mister_Magister | i downloaded | 12:45 |
| Mister_Magister | what now? | 12:45 |
| sledges | read | 12:46 |
| Mister_Magister | what? | 12:46 |
| sledges | 12:46 | |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: if you mean jolla-devicelock-plugin-encsfe | 12:47 |
| sledges | untrusted software now works | 12:47 |
| sledges | *sfa | 12:47 |
| Mister_Magister | yes i mean this :v | 12:47 |
| Mister_Magister | yes it works thanks :v | 12:48 |
| Mister_Magister | but what about developer mode? i need terminal for warehouse | 12:48 |
| sledges | zypper in fingerterm | 12:48 |
| sledges | also | 12:49 |
| sledges | zypper in -t pattern jolla-developer-mode | 12:49 |
| sledges | should bring it back | 12:49 |
| mal- | Mister_Magister: for porting you can look for the information needed in 14.3.1 and 14.3.2, it's good to have the needed info ready when actually doing it | 12:49 |
| Mister_Magister | where? | 12:50 |
| Mister_Magister | i found thanks | 12:52 |
| Mister_Magister | thanks people jolla have awesome comunity <3 | 12:53 |
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| sledges | thanks for showing some <3 :) welcome aboard! | 12:55 |
| Mister_Magister | sledges can you help me with warehouse? :) | 12:56 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: http://bit.ly/port-user-faq question #4 | 12:56 |
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| Mister_Magister | yummy it works thanks sledges | 13:07 |
| sledges | \o/ | 13:10 |
| Mister_Magister | now i can play with sailfish :3 | 13:11 |
| sledges | PSA: how to bring store to your device: do `ssu s`, Device ID should show a unique ID (IMEI or MAC for non-cellular devices, note - your GSM modem should provide a valid IMEI even without SIM!) - find another port/phone and prove that unique ID there is different than yours, and that all of them persist across reboots, then ping me to enable store for you | 13:16 |
| sledges | nexus4 works too!! ping carepack | 13:19 |
| sledges | (oh carepack is afk for few days) | 13:19 |
| Mister_Magister | sledges how to install android support? Store not working and i cannot find it in warehouse | 13:24 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: no android support for non-jolla devices | 13:24 |
| sledges | see FAQ #2 | 13:24 |
| Mister_Magister | oh :( | 13:24 |
| sledges | community is working on their own layer, many approaches taken | 13:25 |
| sledges | last one is working where you can play some classic android games | 13:25 |
| sledges | ask krnlyng and nh1402 on that | 13:25 |
| locusf | join #shashlik | 13:26 |
| mal- | oh1jty: ping, could you check the IMEI of your Xperia Pro sailfish as sledges described above and give it to me in private so I can check that's it's unique | 13:26 |
| nh1402 | Mister_Magister: looking at porting/forking shashlik over to sailfish, might start it today | 13:26 |
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| Mister_Magister | nh1402 what? I dont understand :( | 13:28 |
| nh1402 | shashlik is a project to get android app support working on 'real' linux, the main focus being on desktop linux distributions. | 13:29 |
| Mister_Magister | ok :v | 13:30 |
| nh1402 | it makes use of the linux kernel, and only uses necessary android framework files to get it working, so will save on space. | 13:30 |
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| locusf | + already runs on wayland compositor | 13:30 |
| locusf | weston but I'm confident it could run on lipstick as well | 13:31 |
| nh1402 | ah yes, that too. The other thing is that its using x86, but swapping the x86 stuff for ARM shouldn't be too much of a problem | 13:31 |
| Mister_Magister | so i cannot run android apps on sailfis port? | 13:32 |
| mal- | not yet | 13:33 |
| Mister_Magister | ok | 13:33 |
| nh1402 | although you can run a few games via apkenv | 13:33 |
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| nh1402 | hi ernesti | 14:06 |
| ernesti | hello | 14:06 |
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| mal- | oh1jty: jolla store is now working on xperia pro | 14:56 |
| Mister_Magister | is possible to turn off 5 sec wait before acton for example remove something? | 15:00 |
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| stephg | there are hacks to tweak the remorse timer | 15:00 |
| stephg | but they're hacks, no way via the UX | 15:00 |
| Mister_Magister | can you give me link or something please? | 15:01 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: do you remove things that often that you want to disable a killer feature which gets rid of confirmation boxes? ;) | 15:02 |
| sledges | and reduces number of taps | 15:02 |
| stephg | Mister_Magister: use at your own risk :) https://openrepos.net/content/pichlo/patch-reduce-remorse-timer | 15:02 |
| Mister_Magister | stephg What do you mean "use at your own risk"? :D | 15:03 |
| sledges | i think it's been superseeded: https://openrepos.net/content/ancelad/patch-remorse-items-timeout-controls | 15:03 |
| stephg | quite probably, was just the first google link | 15:04 |
| Mister_Magister | sledges yes i do i very often now. it slowing me :C | 15:04 |
| stephg | Mister_Magister: a) you can just ignore it, the UX is useable whilst the timer is ticking down | 15:04 |
| sledges | Mister_Magister: lol, what's that you do? just swipe app away/close it and remorse timer will assume positive decision | 15:04 |
| stephg | as to the danger of patches, they mess with UX files on the system, they can break things in a UX breaking way | 15:05 |
| sledges | and as in danger to delete precious files/photos ;) | 15:05 |
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| BluesLee_ | sledges, alin: store works again:-) bye | 15:06 |
| sledges | BluesLee_: old news | 15:06 |
| sledges | :D | 15:06 |
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| Mister_Magister | ok i will try live with that :V | 15:06 |
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| sledges | nh1402, alin: could you check modRana works for you from store? | 15:15 |
| sledges | alin_: ^ | 15:15 |
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| nh1402 | sledges: which rom, alpha 12 or 13? | 15:16 |
| nh1402 | i'll check both | 15:18 |
| sledges | nh1402: whichever has gps working | 15:20 |
| alin_ | sledges: nope gps crashes for both modrana and poormaps | 15:22 |
| alin_ | sledges: by the way poormaps is more of a decent app | 15:22 |
| sledges | alin_: question is does modrana even start for you? | 15:22 |
| mal- | sledges: at least on my port with 1.1.6 modrana works | 15:25 |
| alin_ | sledges: the one from my repo yes | 15:25 |
| alin_ | sledges: the image shall have poormaps directly installed | 15:25 |
| sledges | alin_: im asking from store | 15:26 |
| sledges | is what the rest of world has | 15:26 |
| alin_ | sledges: I do not have internet... | 15:27 |
| alin_ | sledges: since we do not stupport fancy corporate merdre networks... | 15:27 |
| sledges | PSA: nexus5 and 4 just got enriched set of apps - refresh your stores! | 15:27 |
| sledges | (as opposed to initial generic set only) | 15:27 |
| alin_ | sledges: or university ones... | 15:28 |
| sledges | mal-: xperia pro as well ^^ | 15:28 |
| sledges | alin_: tjc | 15:28 |
| alin_ | sledges: there are no proxies | 15:29 |
| alin_ | sledges: I can write configs by hand till cows come home | 15:29 |
| alin_ | sledges: will not connect | 15:29 |
| sledges | alin_: wrong channel to talk about this .. | 15:30 |
| sledges | tjc | 15:30 |
| GodGinrai | alin_: So your cows made it home safely? | 15:30 |
| sledges | :D | 15:31 |
| locusf | hahaha | 15:31 |
| nh1402 | sledges: it doesn't get my location on either, but the app at least loads on both | 15:32 |
| nh1402 | then again, I am indoors, and can't find any satellites. | 15:33 |
| sledges | cool, it didn't load on my crippled n5 on aosp | 15:36 |
| sledges | so all good to the rest it means :thumbsup: thanks nh1402 | 15:36 |
| nh1402 | no problem | 15:37 |
| alin_ | sledges: not having internet.. is a porting issue... you cannot port without it | 15:41 |
| sledges | alin_: lol but people who can fix this are not on this channel | 15:42 |
| alin_ | sledges: I can fix it.. but I will be fired and probably put in jail if I disable the proxy of a national lab | 15:43 |
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| sledges | https://twitter.com/sledgeSim/status/629325072646467584 | 16:16 |
| Ford_Prefect | sledges: awesome that the store works, will try to back up my setup and flash again over the weekend or early next week | 16:18 |
| Ford_Prefect | Should probably just set up multirom | 16:18 |
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| sledges | Ford_Prefect: yep:) | 16:23 |
| locusf | sledges: rt'd | 16:24 |
| sledges | locusf: ta | 16:25 |
| Just486 | hai all | 16:25 |
| Just486 | just saw the announcements about sailfish (and the tablet), and got excited | 16:26 |
| Ford_Prefect | ooc, does the Jolla tablet a ground up enablement, or is it Android-based like the community ports? | 16:26 |
| sledges | also fellows don't forget to let google know too ;) share share! https://plus.google.com/113221121232287197533/posts/dawSUGomaBF | 16:27 |
| sledges | Just486: hi, welcome aboard then :) | 16:27 |
| sledges | Ford_Prefect: a bit of both ;) | 16:27 |
| Ford_Prefect | sledges: interesting. Do you know which it is for audio? | 16:28 |
| sledges | Ford_Prefect: i know nothing ;P | 16:28 |
| Just486 | also took a look on the libhybris adaptation chart, looks promising for hammerhead | 16:28 |
| sledges | time will reveal | 16:28 |
| Ford_Prefect | Ah :) | 16:28 |
| Just486 | only green, capital Y-s | 16:29 |
| sledges | Just486: yes just polishing annoying rough edges at the moment for n5 | 16:29 |
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| Just486 | yeah, I heard some stuff about wireless stuff, that they don't really work as they should under the hood | 16:31 |
| sledges | can you be more specific? is not nexus5 related i guess | 16:32 |
| Just486 | for example, is this bugzilla entry still relevant? [hammerhead] find more elegant solution to the current bluetooth hack | 16:32 |
| sledges | Just486: if it's open, 95% it is relevant | 16:32 |
| sledges | we just went through them all recently | 16:32 |
| Just486 | got it | 16:34 |
| Just486 | each day, i'm getting closer to install (and acutally use) sailfish. I don't really like Google's OS | 16:35 |
| sledges | we're here to bring that day closer;) | 16:36 |
| Ford_Prefect | <3 | 16:38 |
| Just486 | this is why I so thankful to this community. So once I have installed Sailfish again (probably around the release of 2.0 or so) i would love to help you. (only as a semi-advanced user, as I don't know anything about programmimg | 16:39 |
| sledges | Just486: you can have it already now via multirom | 16:41 |
| Just486 | you mean Sailfish 2.0? | 16:42 |
| tathhu | Sailfish | 16:42 |
| sledges | 2.0 is not yet out | 16:43 |
| sledges | but it will be just an upgrade away | 16:43 |
| tathhu | \o/ | 16:43 |
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| Just486 | the release of 2.0 is the point when i'm going to join. Unfortunately, with the release of Android 5, you have to wipe userdata in order to gain root access (and install multirom) | 16:47 |
| sledges | understood | 16:48 |
| Just486 | And ereasing userdata is really holding me back from just installing multirom when im in the mood | 16:48 |
| sledges | yet you'll have to backup userdata | 16:48 |
| sledges | at some point anyway | 16:49 |
| sledges | nandroid can do that for you | 16:49 |
| Just486 | I never restore full backups, i consider they can cause a lot of problems | 16:50 |
| Just486 | only taking the most important bits and pieces, and backup them. (photos, contacts (if not on google), saved game data, etc) | 16:51 |
| sledges | fair play | 16:51 |
| sledges | i used full backups, and they seem to restore byte-to-byte | 16:51 |
| sledges | but that was long time ago | 16:51 |
| sledges | when i used android phones:)) | 16:51 |
| sledges | (htc wildfire:)) | 16:51 |
| Just486 | haha, my neighbour has a wildfire.. OMG that phone... | 16:52 |
| sledges | putting sailfish would breathe 2nd life to it:)) | 16:52 |
| mal- | sledges: you think there is new enough cm for that? | 16:54 |
| Just486 | anyways, I never tried full backups on Android. This behaviour comes from older Symbian phones, and the N9, where I always had major issues after restoring old backups. (mixed and glitched contact and sms details, unusable homescreen, etc). But i don't think Android could do better | 16:54 |
| sledges | mal-: i don't :P but we had a port of nexusone;) | 16:56 |
| sledges | maybe that other repo collection could help that i always keep forgetting the name | 16:57 |
| sledges | Just486: well they just do a dd backup from images and back | 16:57 |
| Just486 | sledges I don't trust technology! :) I trust the work of my own hand :) | 16:58 |
| Just486 | sledges also, why would I bakup data, that I don't need | 17:04 |
| sledges | Just486: to be able to install multirom and carry on as before;) | 17:04 |
| situ | sledges: Wasn't store working before on ported devices ? | 17:05 |
| Just486 | sledges I will, I will, I promise :) | 17:08 |
| sledges | situ: long long time ago ;) | 17:12 |
| sledges | after it broke until now | 17:12 |
| situ | hmm | 17:12 |
| sledges | we had a critical bug about it | 17:12 |
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| sledges | one hella discussion started | 17:50 |
| sledges | https://plus.google.com/u/0/113221121232287197533/posts/8vobqhzc5zv | 17:50 |
| sledges | some bug reports for nexus4 (cc carepack) | 17:51 |
| sledges | but i just wrote up quick remedies - those might be it | 17:55 |
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| nh1402 | hi lanodan | 18:13 |
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| lanodan | hi nh1402 | 18:16 |
| lanodan | I was wondering how it’s going for GSM Voice support of the OnePlus One | 18:17 |
| nh1402 | I believe beidl has taken the reigns of that, as of yesterday | 18:21 |
| lanodan | Ok, I’ll wait for updates on this channel | 18:22 |
| iKozzz | sledges: can i add a new language to SailfishOS? | 18:25 |
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| Mister_Magister | Hi its again me. Its possible to run flashplayer or watch video in browser in ported sailfish? | 18:28 |
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| nh1402 | you can watch html5 videos , not sure about flash | 18:32 |
| nh1402 | sledges: You now have "300 thanks" on xda :D | 18:37 |
| iKozzz | wait for it.... 301 lol | 18:44 |
| Mister_Magister | thanks on what? :v | 18:45 |
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| nh1402 | Mister_Magister: People acknowledging his work towards getting Sailfish working on android devices. | 18:51 |
| Mister_Magister | i'm talking about link but ok :v | 18:52 |
| nh1402 | it's not thanks on one specific post, it's overall | 18:53 |
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| * ahoneybun has a OnePlus One waiting for Sailfish | 19:52 | |
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| anth_ | hi | 20:04 |
| alin | sledges: moderana tested installs | 20:04 |
| anth_ | just wondering -- has anyone had success with the i9300? or are there ofono problems? | 20:05 |
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| Nokius | so I can add my Jolla account on ports or is some new package needed? | 20:42 |
| Nokius | ones I had a good tracking webpage | 20:43 |
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| nh1402 | hi transpARent | 20:51 |
| mal- | Nokius: no new packages needed, but I think the device model has to be activated from jolla side, after you verify that IMEI is working correctly | 20:52 |
| Nokius | mal-: ok nice | 20:54 |
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| stephg | reminds me, does that mean that odd IMEI disappearing/reappearing thing ever got solved? | 21:01 |
| stephg | I say solved, I mean more in the sense it was a mystery rather than a bug | 21:01 |
| stephg | sledges: ^^ remember we had it last summer on the N4 | 21:01 |
| * stephg is sad he had to return that n4 and has also had the m7 taken of him :( | 21:02 | |
| transpARent | hi nh1402 | 21:03 |
| transpARent | (apparently someone can see me) | 21:03 |
| stephg | who said that! | 21:03 |
| transpARent | who | 21:04 |
| nh1402 | transparent != invisible | 21:07 |
| transpARent | if opacity is set to 0 than it's supposed to be invisible | 21:08 |
| transpARent | then* | 21:09 |
| nh1402 | you can't just physically say "opacity equal 0" and you'll turn invisible. | 21:11 |
| sledges | nh1402: haha thanks, equal if not more of those thanks needs to go to situ and vgrade who made hybris11.0 and nexus5 happen :) | 21:15 |
| sledges | iKozzz: you can't yet translate sailfishos to a new language easily, but that such tool is in the works to be made available | 21:16 |
| sledges | beidl: pressure mounting even more on opo ;) | 21:17 |
| sledges | alin: thanks for testing modrana | 21:17 |
| sledges | Nokius: check first topic in the channel for more info on store | 21:17 |
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| Nokius | mh oppos imei checker is not working correct | 21:25 |
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| sledges | Nokius: whatever ssu s reports | 21:28 |
| sledges | Nokius: it might fall back to wlan or bt mac, if no imei can be extracted | 21:28 |
| sledges | but if it can, it can be a false positive (like a default/invalid imei, equal for all devices) | 21:28 |
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| Nokius | yes thats why I wanted to check it on the oppo site but both phones find5 and the imei from the find7 box are failing may there checker is broken or I have fake phones :D | 21:34 |
| Nokius | have to go up to the garret | 21:35 |
| sledges | Nokius: failing in their androids? | 21:37 |
| sledges | hmmm, is it *#06# ? | 21:38 |
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| iKozzz | sledges: i see. thnx | 21:41 |
| Nokius | box has the same just checked it | 21:42 |
| Nokius | also *#06#* | 21:42 |
| Nokius | sledges: failing here http://www.oppo.com/my/supports/imei-check/ | 21:43 |
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| Nokius | oppo did some changes :S | 22:00 |
| Nokius | :( oppo broke the forum :,( | 22:10 |
| Nokius | so I have to wait for the store | 22:10 |
| * Nokius gn8 | 22:12 | |
| sledges | forum looks good to me | 22:12 |
| sledges | http://community.oppo.com/en/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=26801&extra= | 22:12 |
| sledges | you can't post or? | 22:12 |
| Nokius | sledges: no login no pw reset | 22:12 |
| sledges | http://account.community.oppo.com/User/findPassword | 22:13 |
| Nokius | Failed to send, please try again later | 22:13 |
| Nokius | w00t | 22:13 |
| sledges | hmm | 22:15 |
| sledges | twitter?:) | 22:15 |
| Nokius | I asked oppo via twitter already | 22:16 |
| Nokius | but 140 are to less to ask other for there imei :( | 22:16 |
| Nokius | let's see tomorrow | 22:20 |
| * Nokius afk | 22:20 | |
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