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| vgrade | w00t: time for bed I think, hardcoding the screen.width/hight does change things but still not filling the screen. I also see other references to screen.width in other qml files | 00:49 |
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| w00t | yep | 00:49 |
| vgrade | w00t: good way to learn | 00:50 |
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| chriadam | gconf values for /desktop/jolla/components/screen_width etc? | 00:52 |
| chriadam | vgrade ^ | 00:53 |
| chriadam | err, I'm probably wrong, nvm. | 00:53 |
| mvogt | chriadam: no, not gconf - taken from QDesktopWidget if available | 00:55 |
| chriadam | ah | 00:55 |
| vgrade | chriadam: I only saw rotation in gconf | 01:02 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning all | 06:07 |
| chriadam | good morning | 06:07 |
| dm8tbr | good moaning | 06:12 |
| pyksy | 'Allo 'Allo <3 | 06:15 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:36 |
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| maddogeco | Has anybody scene any issue with the VM that came with the Sailfish SDK? the vm would start for me at first due to kernel issues. The when it did start it hard rebooted my PC halfway through the VM starting | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | what kind of PC do you have , linux distro, memory? | 08:51 |
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| maddogeco | 8gb ram on ubuntu 12.10 | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | 32 or 64 bit? | 08:54 |
| maddogeco | 64 | 08:54 |
| lbt | morning | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | maddogeco: and kernel version = ? | 08:55 |
| maddogeco | Kernel Linux 3.5.0-25-generic | 08:55 |
| maddogeco | its wierd becuase its such a instant reboot it like a power cut then instantly rebooting | 09:00 |
| lbt | maddogeco: is it reproducable? | 09:01 |
| maddogeco | ive done it twice | 09:01 |
| lbt | OK | 09:01 |
| maddogeco | i dont know if there is any system logging as it happens | 09:02 |
| lbt | how old/new is the hardware | 09:02 |
| maddogeco | 2 month old i5 desktop | 09:03 |
| lbt | which VM | 09:03 |
| lbt | OK - do you use vbox for any other VMs ? | 09:03 |
| maddogeco | virtual box | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | maddogeco: is your host OS ubuntu 12.10? | 09:03 |
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| merlin1991 | Stskeeps: he said so 10 mins ago ;) | 09:04 |
| lbt | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1004597 | 09:04 |
| Merbot | Ubuntu bug 1004597 in linux (Ubuntu) "Sudden hard reset (reboot) caused by VirtualBox" [High,Confirmed] | 09:04 |
| lbt | WORKAROUND: Disabling 3D _and_ 2D acceleration in the virtual machine fixed the issue. | 09:05 |
| lbt | could you try that maddogeco | 09:05 |
| maddogeco | ok | 09:05 |
| lbt | they are raising nvdia as a possibility | 09:05 |
| lbt | do you have nvidia driver/gpu ? | 09:06 |
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| maddogeco | i think it may be an nvidia driver | 09:06 |
| maddogeco | 3d and 2d acceleration were already off | 09:07 |
| lbt | OK | 09:07 |
| lbt | OK - do you use vbox for any other VM images ? | 09:07 |
| maddogeco | yes it is an nvidia graphics card | 09:07 |
| maddogeco | i hope i didnt break it following these instructions http://askubuntu.com/questions/205154/virtualbox-etc-init-d-vboxdrv-setup-issue becuase the VM would startat all at first | 09:08 |
| maddogeco | no i just installed it for the Sailfish SDK | 09:08 |
| maddogeco | i should metion im pretty new to linux in general about 2 or 3 months as it being my main home machine | 09:09 |
| lbt | OK - it may be worth downloading an ubuntu VM image and seeing if that works | 09:09 |
| maddogeco | ill give it a go | 09:10 |
| lbt | maddogeco: hehe - sorry you're hitting this kind of problem. It's pretty unusual (it's the first report I've seen) | 09:10 |
| lbt | the objective is to find a working image and settings | 09:10 |
| lbt | then we can compare and see if we can move towards that and then isolate the issue | 09:11 |
| maddogeco | im glad there are people out there willing to help | 09:11 |
| lbt | I also wonder about BIOS settings for virtualisation | 09:11 |
| Nicd- | here's one thing to try too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1004597/comments/12 | 09:11 |
| Merbot | Ubuntu bug 1004597 in linux (Ubuntu) "Sudden hard reset (reboot) caused by VirtualBox" [High,Confirmed] | 09:11 |
| MFaro-Tusino | meta vm is annoying, removing the windows partition from an older pc, and tryung to get ubuntu on it, for the last 2 hours. no method of install wants to work :/ | 09:11 |
| Nicd- | (open xorg drivers) | 09:11 |
| lbt | next time you reboot, can you go into your BIOS and see if there's a setting to enable virtualisation | 09:11 |
| lbt | MFaro-Tusino: not sure what you mean? | 09:12 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i had ubuntu vm on mac, and ran sdk in it, but too slow to do anything and causes lots of issues | 09:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | MFaro-Tusino: boot your linux partition | 09:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | don't be lazy | 09:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is awesome | 09:13 |
| MFaro-Tusino | now i am reformatting windows desktop i have with ubuntu but its not working | 09:14 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i dont have one sfiet | 09:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ... | 09:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | dual VM might not be a good idea indeed | 09:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | did you see my vid on the main components of the SDK ? | 09:14 |
| MFaro-Tusino | its a terrible idea but i hadnt had a chance to format the desktop yet | 09:15 |
| MFaro-Tusino | no, link? | 09:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | https://vimeo.com/60547343 | 09:15 |
| MFaro-Tusino | lets take this to pm :) | 09:15 |
| Nicd- | MFaro-Tusino: installing ubuntu on windows with wubi is the easiest way | 09:15 |
| lbt | MFaro-Tusino: *nod* nested VMs like that are probably more a fun exercise than a real solution. Dual boot should be an option though | 09:15 |
| maddogeco | @MFaro-Tusino so you had a mac running a ubuntu vm runing a sailfish VM? inception ? | 09:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | people complain that there is no win mac version, but nowadays, it is not that hard to get a linux running on most of the configs isn't it ? | 09:16 |
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| veskuh | Sfiet_Konstantin, dual booting is PITA | 09:17 |
| MFaro-Tusino | yes i know, whcih is why i am trying to replace windows install (its crap anyway but my parents used it for work) | 09:17 |
| MFaro-Tusino | yay! finally! | 09:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | veskuh: well, why is it PITA ? | 09:18 |
| Nicd- | I tried a VM in VM on my mac too, just for fun | 09:18 |
| Nicd- | it was horrible :D | 09:18 |
| veskuh | Sfiet_Konstantin, You always got stuff you need on the other side and sharing is not as convienent as with a VM | 09:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | veskuh: but you have perf | 09:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and you know, mounting ntfs under linux is not hard | 09:19 |
| veskuh | Sfiet_Konstantin, yeah thats the good side. I just hate constant booting you end up doing | 09:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so just keep everything on windows if you are often using windows | 09:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and migrate when you feel that you are usng linux more | 09:19 |
| maddogeco | @lbt would it matter if it a 32bit or 64 ubuntu VM? | 09:19 |
| Nicd- | I'd love if I could hibernate OS X when I'm booting to Windows, but sadly it's not possible :( | 09:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maddogeco: maybe, but for 8gb RAM you would love 64 bits :D | 09:20 |
| veskuh | Sfiet_Konstantin, Well, I got mac at home so no NTFS | 09:20 |
| lbt | maddogeco: get a 32 bit one | 09:20 |
| MFaro-Tusino | vm was an easier solution for me and i needed to access files and programs on both | 09:20 |
| lbt | our VMs are 32bit | 09:20 |
| MFaro-Tusino | but now that i do more intense work its not good | 09:20 |
| lbt | so if it's just to test it would be closest | 09:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | veskuh: I see | 09:21 |
| veskuh | Sfiet_Konstantin, and on the work side I still haven't found a good solution for exchange access on Linux. | 09:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | veskuh: you got the point on Mac, but I feel that the situation is often quite good on most PC | 09:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | veskuh: there are not ... | 09:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sadly | 09:22 |
| MFaro-Tusino | well installer seems to have frozen up at the account picture screen . | 09:24 |
| lbt | directly on the desktop machine? | 09:24 |
| MFaro-Tusino | yep :/ i will just leave it, hope it fixes itself | 09:25 |
| MFaro-Tusino | sailfish related question now | 09:25 |
| MFaro-Tusino | veskuh can probably answer best | 09:25 |
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| lbt | MFaro-Tusino: I suggest running memtest - usually available as one of the options in the installer | 09:26 |
| MFaro-Tusino | the sailfish target rootfs, what changes are needed to be run on arm? | 09:26 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i did that before, was fine | 09:26 |
| lbt | MFaro-Tusino: you need an arm rootfs and we haven't released one yet | 09:26 |
| MFaro-Tusino | so we cant even adapt it? | 09:27 |
| lbt | however it would just install as another target | 09:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: basically, isn't it just the i586 rootfs cross compiled on ARM ? :) | 09:27 |
| lbt | Sfiet_Konstantin: yes is the simple answer | 09:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: no is the complex one :D | 09:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I prefer the simple :) | 09:27 |
| lbt | it's pretty accurate - our setup in Mer is such that we target different architectures as a matter of course | 09:28 |
| lbt | so making an arm root is the same as making an x86 root - it's not secondary | 09:29 |
| lbt | semantics - ignore me "yes, it's just a cross-compile to ARM" | 09:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ok then | 09:30 |
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| maddogeco | @lbt just realised that there was a Mer VM there as well. it started with no issues. | 09:36 |
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| lbt | maddogeco: OK - interesting | 09:38 |
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| maddogeco | going to try sailfish again may be rebooting if i like it or not | 09:40 |
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| lbt | maddogeco: uh-huh :) | 09:45 |
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| maddogeco | @lbt it worked for about 10 seconds i saw the sailfish in the water back ground and then it died | 09:47 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: just FYI ^^ | 09:48 |
| lbt | maddogeco: so can you open the settings for the VM | 09:48 |
| lbt | vbox -> pick VM, pick settings -> System ->Processor | 09:49 |
| lbt | erm -> Acceleration (at the end) | 09:49 |
| lbt | disable both those | 09:49 |
| maddogeco | ok done | 09:49 |
| lbt | (oh, did you see anything in BIOS about acceleration) | 09:49 |
| maddogeco | no too many pop up about capturing mouse moments as it was starting | 09:50 |
| maddogeco | ok ill try agian | 09:51 |
| lbt | maddogeco: I meant your actual laptop | 09:53 |
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| maddogeco | @lbt that was worse didnt get as far into the boot process before it rebooted | 09:54 |
| lbt | maddogeco: so the BIOS - I meant your actual laptop BIOS | 09:55 |
| maddogeco | what should i be looking for there sorry? | 09:55 |
| lbt | often there's an option to enable hardware acceleration | 09:56 |
| lbt | sometimes it's reported as enabled but disabled in the bios | 09:56 |
| maddogeco | ok so should i enable it in the bios? | 09:56 |
| lbt | yes | 09:59 |
| maddogeco | will try in a moment | 10:00 |
| maddogeco | doesnt look like my bios has any hardware accelaration options | 10:08 |
| lbt | ok | 10:08 |
| lbt | so - try to get the ubuntu VM going | 10:09 |
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| maddogeco | BAM!!! its Sailfish is GO!! | 10:19 |
| maddogeco | intel virtualiztion in bios on and hardware virtualization on in vm settings | 10:20 |
| maddogeco | massive thanks @lbt | 10:20 |
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| lbt | maddogeco: ah, ok - so it was almost certainly the BIOS setting | 10:22 |
| lbt | interesting | 10:22 |
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| maddogeco | after i changed my bios it did crash once but didnt the first time i tried with the vm acceleration on | 10:23 |
| spider-mario | is there a root password in the VM? | 10:24 |
| maddogeco | @spider-mario not that i know but this could help https://sailfishos.org/develop-faq.html | 10:28 |
| spider-mario | thanks :) | 10:29 |
| spider-mario | it doesn’t seem to tell but thank you anyway | 10:29 |
| lbt | spider-mario: there is - but most people use ssh | 10:31 |
| lbt | root is root/nemo on the emulator and root/rootme on the SDK | 10:31 |
| lbt | you can only use it from console though | 10:31 |
| spider-mario | ok, thanks. :D | 10:31 |
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| spider-mario | I’m wondering, maybe Silica components would run as they are, on desktop platforms? | 10:35 |
| spider-mario | it might ease development by not requiring to push to the emulator as often | 10:35 |
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| maddogeco | Thanks everyone for you help tonight. im tapping out. | 10:37 |
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| spider-mario | “tonight”. :p | 10:37 |
| spider-mario | it’s actually 11:38 AM where I am | 10:38 |
| lbt | spider-mario: I agree | 10:38 |
| spider-mario | regarding Silica components? | 10:38 |
| lbt | however I think it would be too hard to provide builds that would work on all distros | 10:39 |
| spider-mario | probably, indeed | 10:40 |
| lbt | I wonder if we could do something simple for just qmlviewer though | 10:40 |
| lbt | not sure how valuable it would be - and then it may be annoying if you hit limitations too soon | 10:40 |
| lbt | maybe we just need to improve the deployment step - continous rsync of code as we write may help :) | 10:41 |
| spider-mario | :p | 10:41 |
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| w00t | lbt: think bigger... we need to make the SDK write your code for you too :) | 10:49 |
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| lbt | *g* | 10:49 |
| phako | well. star trek style. "Computer, write me an application that can..." | 10:50 |
| lbt | we have that... watch: | 10:51 |
| * phako watches | 10:51 | |
| lbt | w00t: "write me an application that rotates a tree" | 10:51 |
| lbt | see | 10:51 |
| phako | ROFL | 10:51 |
| spider-mario | “Hello, SDK. I would like an awesome application, please. | 10:51 |
| spider-mario | — Could you please be more specific? | 10:51 |
| spider-mario | — […]” | 10:51 |
| spider-mario | and by the end of the conversation, you’ve essentially written an app in a very high level language | 10:51 |
| w00t | lbt: dammit | 10:51 |
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| Yaniel | speaking of rotating trees, how is GLES support on sailfish? | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | gles2.0 | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | the emulator supports it but don't export texture from pixmap to work properly all the time | 11:32 |
| jani | lbt: thanks btw for those =) | 11:33 |
| lbt | jani: np ... for what? | 11:33 |
| jani | lbt: l/p for sdk and emu =) | 11:34 |
| lbt | ah .... ty | 11:34 |
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| areversat | you guys rock, I'm porting my app to silica and I removed most of the hacks I had to use with harmattan :) | 14:06 |
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| Stskeeps | woo | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | screenshot? | 14:10 |
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| faenil | o/ | 14:22 |
| sledges | faenil, \o | 14:32 |
| faenil | hey | 14:32 |
| areversat | Stskeeps: I don't have it here, I'll make one tonight or this week end | 14:32 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi ! | 17:07 |
| valdur55 | Hi! | 17:19 |
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| sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin, ! Sfiet_Konstantin :) | 17:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah sledges ? | 17:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 17:54 |
| sledges | that was as 'hello' :)) | 17:56 |
| sledges | how wa/is MWC? | 17:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 17:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, it hurt feets | 17:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I have seen awesome people | 17:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Nokia booth is the best place to eat and rest | 17:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Firefox booth is pretty, prettier than Firefox OS | 17:59 |
| fk_lx | :-P | 17:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | even with a live demo, ubuntu do not convince me | 17:59 |
| fk_lx | :-D | 17:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | android is leading the clone wars | 17:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because Sony, HTC, LG, Samsung, Huawei, ZTE and others are just performing phone cloning | 18:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | no big announcements (aka no surprise, most of the phone leaked) | 18:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Sailfish is pretty, the SDK is pretty as well, but Jolla were virtually invisible, except for the Sailfish girls | 18:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's my summary :) | 18:01 |
| sledges | nice in a nutshell :) | 18:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | indeed, nice for a first experience | 18:01 |
| suosaaski | and the sailfish girls weren't even "jollas", iirc... | 18:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | although the rainy weather is less nice :( | 18:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | suosaaski: they were sailfish girls, a nice marketing action for a company without booth | 18:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | since 95% of MWC visitors are male, that works pretty well :P | 18:02 |
| suosaaski | but iirc they were not organized by jolla, but some third party. | 18:03 |
| suosaaski | but whatever, doesn't really matter :) | 18:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Jolla coordinated them I think, there is noone that decided to say: "hey, let's promote sailfish" | 18:03 |
| sledges | is MD giving keynote today? | 18:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | "let's promote sailfish, an OS that do not exist" | 18:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: I had to upgrade by paying 1k€ to see MD | 18:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so yeah, but sadly I did not go | 18:04 |
| sledges | ah | 18:04 |
| sledges | so he's speaking now? | 18:04 |
| sledges | but no live stream hence the 1k | 18:04 |
| sledges | :) | 18:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | http://www.mobileworldlive.com/jolla-chief-warns-of-mobile-squeeze | 18:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ^best summary available | 18:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: no, he spoke at 9.30 this morning | 18:04 |
| shmerl | > Operators have a fear of becoming a bit pipe | 18:04 |
| shmerl | I have no problem with that personally. Actually it's not good when operators aren't a bit pipe IMHO. | 18:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 18:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | for operators, they have to be a bit pipe without feeling it | 18:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | if they feel it, they will abandon, or raise the price | 18:06 |
| shmerl | If they aren't a bit pipe they start discriminating traffic and all that junk. | 18:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or put crapware on your phone | 18:06 |
| sledges | time to analytically sink into his thoughts :) | 18:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I had that mixed feelings when MD said that there is that "operator custom" area in the feed view | 18:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | more crapware inside your feed view ? :S | 18:07 |
| shmerl | Sfiet_Konstantin: Yeah :) I understand that Jolla tries to appeal to operators. But it's conflicting with users interests often. | 18:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | shmerl: except if there is something called "vodafone-custom" that appeared in the package manager | 18:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and that you can click on uninstall :D | 18:11 |
| shmerl | Sure, that would be ideal | 18:11 |
| shmerl | But Sailfish should explicitly prevent having "unremovable" stuff from operators. | 18:12 |
| shmerl | I'm not sure how this is addressed yet. | 18:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | shmerl: Sailfish is not harmattan | 18:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and the used is free to do what he/she want | 18:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however, having a package manager and stuff might be something hard enough for the basic user to remove operator custom :D | 18:16 |
| shmerl | Right, and hopefully that won't break stuff. | 18:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and well, if operators put garbage, and make user unsatisfied, they would know it, and change their policy | 18:17 |
| shmerl | For example I'd like to be able to wipe FB application :) | 18:17 |
| shmerl | Never used one in Harmattan and you couldn't easily remove it. | 18:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | shmerl: I think that Sailfish will be designed in a better way | 18:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | as the device is hackable | 18:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and might be even more flexible than harmattan | 18:18 |
| shmerl | Hopefully so, especially in the UI and configurability. | 18:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah | 18:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but I didn't get many info on that | 18:19 |
| shmerl | In the video there was just "it's possible, we are looking at it". | 18:19 |
| shmerl | It sounds like not all things are final yet. | 18:20 |
| shmerl | (for example about adding user plugins to the status bar and etc.) | 18:20 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | shmerl: it is possible if there is source | 18:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or QML file to change :D | 18:21 |
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| shmerl | There probably will be at some point. | 18:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and if there is that operator custom area | 18:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | there will be the capability for a thirdparty dev to plug into that | 18:23 |
| shmerl | Right | 18:23 |
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| stefan1984 | ~/SailfishOS/bin$ ./qtcreator | 18:43 |
| stefan1984 | Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x40802) with this library (version 0x40803) | 18:43 |
| stefan1984 | Avbruten (SIGABRT) | 18:43 |
| stefan1984 | How do i get the SDK running | 18:43 |
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| Yaniel | do you have another qt sdk installed | 18:45 |
| Yaniel | and in PATH? | 18:45 |
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| stefan1984 | i run a kde dist and i have qt-4.8.2 installed | 18:56 |
| Yaniel | probably that is interfering then | 18:56 |
| stefan1984 | could an ld_preload solve it | 18:57 |
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| stefan1984 | I needed LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/SailfishOS/lib/qtcreator ./qtcreator | 19:07 |
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| mae | Pinging lbt? | 19:30 |
| lbt | pong | 19:32 |
| mae | Remeber me from the other day; Ubuntu 11.04, couldn't connect to SDK VM | 19:32 |
| lbt | yep - hi | 19:32 |
| lbt | the mixed news is that my wife installed on her 11.04 and it was fine :D | 19:33 |
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| mae | Hi. That part works now -- I deleted the pre-set port mapping for ssh and created it again. Voila! | 19:33 |
| lbt | so the good news is there are no major problems ... we can make it work | 19:33 |
| lbt | OK - nice | 19:33 |
| mae | Yes and no... Nice that it works; not-so-nice that VirtualBox messed us up for a couple hours! | 19:34 |
| mae | Software... | 19:34 |
| lbt | indeed | 19:34 |
| mae | Next issue is now that qtcreator can't hook up properly with the emu; "Server rejected key". Am googling; any quick fix you know of? | 19:35 |
| lbt | tried known issues? | 19:36 |
| lbt | erm and timing is really bad | 19:36 |
| lbt | dinner is ready here ... | 19:36 |
| lbt | sorry :( | 19:36 |
| mae | Hey, no prob! :-) Have a good evening; thanks for your time. | 19:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mae, what's your problem with server rejected key ? | 19:37 |
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| * lbt gets chance to yell https://sailfishos.org/wiki/SDK_Alpha_Known_Issues before his wife drags him away... | 19:39 | |
| mae | Sfiet: qtcreator, Options, Devices, Test: Then I get: SSH connection failure: Server rejected key. | 19:40 |
| mae | So the emu doesn't like me. It's not the timeout issue in the issues list lbt points to; my DNS is in order, me thinks. | 19:42 |
| kaltsi | mae have you tried to ssh to the emu? | 19:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mae: second I will try | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | how many ssh keys do you have? | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | in .ssh/ | 19:44 |
| kaltsi | ssh -p 2223 -i ~/.ssh/mermer-qt-creator-rsa nemo@localhost | 19:44 |
| kaltsi | oops.. just mer-qt.. not mermer | 19:44 |
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| mae | Stskeeps: Several keys. Am looking at ssh -vvvv output now. | 19:48 |
| mae | debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/mae/.ssh/mer-qt-creator-rsa | 19:48 |
| mae | debug3: send_pubkey_test | 19:48 |
| mae | debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply | 19:48 |
| mae | debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey | 19:48 |
| mae | debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method | 19:48 |
| mae | debug1: No more authentication methods to try. | 19:48 |
| mae | Permission denied (publickey). | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | hmmm | 19:48 |
| mae | Ah: Further up: debug3: Incorrect RSA1 identifier | 19:49 |
| mae | debug3: Could not load "/home/mae/.ssh/mer-qt-creator-rsa.pub" as a RSA1 public key | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | that looks more like a problem | 19:49 |
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| mae | So, for those following my install problems: I wiped *everything* Sailfish from my system (including ssh keys) and did a fresh install. And now everything works! | 20:41 |
| mae | Thanks! | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | woo :) | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | may you enjoy good sailfish sdk times | 20:42 |
| junglizer | hooray \o/ | 20:43 |
| mae | A question, then: 'top' on the emu says mcompositor and Xorg split the CPU 50/50, even when at the (blank) lockscreen. Does that sound reasonable to you? | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | mae: it's sw rendering but yes, that sounds a little high | 20:45 |
| mae | But continuous rendering of a black canvas? My virtual battery is bleeding :-) | 20:45 |
| sardini | hello, nice job 'sailfisher' ? good luck for future | 20:45 |
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| Yaniel | fisher of sails? | 20:46 |
| sardini | Jollaers? | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | jolla employees are called sailors | 20:46 |
| Yaniel | I'd say anything related :) | 20:46 |
| Yaniel | like the logo | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | mae: please help gdb or strace it :) | 20:47 |
| mae | stskeeps: strace on compositor: Looks like a continuous write/poll/read loop on fd 6, a socket (6267). Xorg has a socket called 6268, so I'm guessing it's the two that are communicating. | 20:53 |
| mae | Hm. Gdb then. Let's see if I have symbols... | 20:53 |
| mae | Argh. Can't cut from VM console. Hang on. | 20:56 |
| lbt | mae: ah you're back | 20:59 |
| lbt | and it worked - cool | 21:00 |
| mae | lbt: Yes. Now looking at stack traces. Better -- I guess... :-) | 21:00 |
| mae | stskeeps: Some stack for you (is this the right thing for me to do in such a forum? I'm a newbie with IRC) | 21:01 |
| mae | #7 0x6f7afb13 in MRestacker::execute(QVector<MRestacker::WindowOrder> const&) () from /usr/lib/libmcompositor.so.1 | 21:01 |
| mae | #8 0x6f7b0da8 in MRestacker::restack(QList<unsigned long>) () from /usr/lib/libmcompositor.so.1 | 21:01 |
| mae | #9 0x6f79dab4 in MCompositeManagerPrivate::checkStacking(bool, unsigned long) () from /usr/lib/libmcompositor.so.1 | 21:01 |
| mae | #10 0x6f79ea13 in MCompositeManagerPrivate::stackingTimeout() () from /usr/lib/libmcompositor.so.1 | 21:01 |
| mae | #11 0x6f7b4408 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libmcompositor.so.1 | 21:01 |
| mae | #12 0x6ea27060 in QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, int, void**) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 | 21:01 |
| mae | #13 0x6ea7dd16 in QTimer::timeout() () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 | 21:01 |
| mae | #14 0x6ea30a0e in QTimer::timerEvent(QTimerEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 | 21:01 |
| mae | #15 0x6ea2bd2c in QObject::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 | 21:01 |
| lbt | mae: noooo | 21:01 |
| mae | #16 0x6ece32bc in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 | 21:01 |
| mae | #17 0x6ece86e5 in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 | 21:01 |
| mae | #18 0x6ea11c9d in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 | 21:01 |
| mae | # | 21:01 |
| lbt | http://gist.github.com/ or some other pastebin service | 21:02 |
| lbt | pastie.org | 21:02 |
| mae | So, a timer firing, I guess? Or is it an event that triggers the redraw? | 21:02 |
| mae | OK, thanks. Like they used to say about Usenet on the universities: It's September all year... | 21:02 |
| lbt | ... so here's the top line in top on my emul: 54 root 20 0 20664 8012 1372 S 0.7 1.6 1:59.17 systemd-journal | 21:03 |
| lbt | Cpu(s): 0.0%us, 0.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 98.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.3%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st | 21:03 |
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| lbt | so that's in locked mode - same in any other static situation too | 21:03 |
| mae | lbt: Odd; right now it's at 65/32 between comp/Xorg. I'll try to reboot the emu and see if it's consistent. | 21:05 |
| * lbt suggests killing mcompositor | 21:05 | |
| lbt | before a reboot | 21:05 |
| mae | OK. | 21:05 |
| mae | That looks more sane. Lipstick and comp spent some quality time for a few secs, then went back to idling. | 21:06 |
| mae | Will try to trigger it again. | 21:07 |
| Nicd- | hmm, sailfish sdk installation failed :( | 21:08 |
| lbt | what went wrong Nicd- | 21:10 |
| Nicd- | Execution failed (Unexpected exit code: 1): "/home/nicd/SailfishOS/bin/merssh generatesshkeys /home/nicd/.ssh/mer-qt-creator-rsa /home/nicd/.ssh/mer-qt-creator-rsa.pub" | 21:11 |
| lbt | hmm - is your home /home/nicd ? | 21:11 |
| Nicd- | yes | 21:12 |
| lbt | and do you have /home/nicd/.ssh - check in there to see if those files were made | 21:12 |
| Nicd- | dir exists but is empty | 21:12 |
| lbt | what permissions does the dir have? | 21:12 |
| lbt | ls -laFd ~/.ssh/ | 21:12 |
| Nicd- | drwxr-xr-x | 21:13 |
| lbt | owned by you? | 21:13 |
| Nicd- | uhh, apparently not. I was looking at . and .. the wrong way | 21:13 |
| lbt | ah | 21:13 |
| lbt | who owns it? | 21:13 |
| Nicd- | root:root | 21:13 |
| lbt | did you possibly run the installer as root | 21:13 |
| Nicd- | nope | 21:14 |
| lbt | date on the dir? | 21:14 |
| Nicd- | today | 21:14 |
| Nicd- | updated ~350 packages :P | 21:14 |
| Nicd- | possibly something to do with that or a stupid ubuntu decision | 21:14 |
| lbt | yeah - we'll call it planetary alignment | 21:15 |
| lbt | :) | 21:15 |
| lbt | sudo chown .ssh to yourself | 21:15 |
| Nicd- | thanks lbt :) | 21:15 |
| Nicd- | yeah, I did | 21:15 |
| lbt | *g* ... can never tell who knows what | 21:15 |
| Nicd- | it's continuing now. nice of you to put in an ignore/cancel/retry function instead of just failing :) | 21:16 |
| lbt | oh, nice | 21:16 |
| lbt | those clever Qt guys in germany | 21:16 |
| mae | lbt: Cannot trigger the high CPU load again. Thanks, and good night. | 21:19 |
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| lbt | .... good | 21:21 |
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| Nicd- | hmm, my qtcreator tries to connect to localhost:2223 | 21:29 |
| Nicd- | instead of 2222 | 21:29 |
| Yaniel | one is the sdk | 21:29 |
| Yaniel | and the other is the emulator | 21:29 |
| Nicd- | in any case it's just telling me "Virtual machine 'SailfishOS Emulator' is not running!" | 21:31 |
| Yaniel | did you start it? | 21:32 |
| Nicd- | yep | 21:33 |
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| Elleo | http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2013/02/28/ogre3d-on-jollas-sailfishos/ :) | 21:36 |
| lbt | Nicd-: ubuntu 12.10 ? | 21:40 |
| Nicd- | yes | 21:40 |
| lbt | we think there's an issue on DNS | 21:40 |
| lbt | try this : https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox#Ubuntu_12.10_DNS | 21:41 |
| lbt | but use the correct (long) name for the emulator VM | 21:41 |
| lbt | Elleo: .... errr... | 21:42 |
| lbt | WOW! :D | 21:42 |
| Elleo | :) | 21:43 |
| Elleo | its still a bit buggy, but seems workable :) | 21:43 |
| Nicd- | lbt: what name? it accepted MerSDK fine | 21:43 |
| Yaniel | looks promising for SailfishOS games :) | 21:44 |
| Nicd- | but didn't affect the problem | 21:44 |
| Elleo | and I really need to see about getting it to render in to a Qt widget so it can be swiped away easily | 21:44 |
| Elleo | it was a lot less work than the n9 port I did a while back, but a lot of that was due to quirks in the n9 opengles implementation I think | 21:45 |
| lbt | Nicd-: yeah - but you're not having problems logging into SDK :) | 21:45 |
| lbt | Nicd-: Use "SailfishOS Emulator" and you need the quotes | 21:46 |
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| lbt | Nicd-: any luck ? | 21:52 |
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| Nicd- | just a sec | 21:55 |
| Nicd- | no :( | 21:56 |
| Nicd- | I think I'll continue this tomorrow | 21:57 |
| Nicd- | it's way past bedtime already | 21:57 |
| lbt | Nicd-: ok - ping if you need to | 21:57 |
| lbt | it's fairly easy to fix | 21:57 |
| Nicd- | thanks for the help so far, lbt :) | 21:57 |
| lbt | np ... g'night | 21:58 |
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| ali1234 | Elleo: nice. i tried to port ogre3d to n900 ages ago... never worked but i got a few bugs fixed upstream at least. nice to know it's still coming along. | 22:15 |
| Elleo | ali1234: :) | 22:17 |
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| Elleo | well its probably thanks to your prior attempts that there was so little that needed fixing up when I tried :) | 22:18 |
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| ali1234 | i don't remember what i fixed... i think it was build system stuff | 22:18 |
| Elleo | at least for the n9 version; this one is based on the new gles2 driver instead of the old gles one | 22:18 |
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| Elleo | the old gles one seemed really tailored to iOS | 22:19 |
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| ali1234 | yeah i only just got it to run, and it never rendered anything sensible | 22:20 |
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| oh8hth | hello | 23:29 |
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| oh8hth | does anybody have any ideas what to do about vbox error "code VBOX_E_INVALID_OBJECT_STATE (0x80bb0007)" when starting either virtual machine? | 23:32 |
| oh8hth | i.e. both refuse to start with the same errors. | 23:32 |
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| oh8hth | found it; something had gotten the bright idea to chown /usr to 501:501... | 23:41 |
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