Monday, 2013-03-11

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edgarswhen we will see 1st phone with sailfish? :)07:28
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jake9xxedgars: when it's ready, pls be patient :)07:49
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Yanielwow, iekku has been up early today07:58
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pyksyisn't she always up early08:03
iekkupyksy, :O08:04
iekkuYaniel, little bit earlier than normall08:04
pyksyiekku: what, is my memory failing me?-)08:04
iekkupyksy, usually i wake 5:4008:04
iekkuthis morning 4:3008:04
pyksyiekku: ouch08:05
iekkuneeded to make coffee to wife and wake him up :)08:06
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pyksyiekku: errr did he actually need to wake up so early or was it because you didn't want to get out of bed alone?-)08:08
iekkuhe woke up finally at 5:10 , 30 minutes later than he was supposed to wake08:09
Yanielwife, he?08:09
pyksyhahah a true morning person, just like me08:09
iekkuYaniel, yes, i call my husband as a wife08:09
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iekkupyksy, i haven't notice earlier that you have joined here :) welcome08:27
pyksyiekku: thanks. i joined when you published the alpha sdk and tested my old qt project on it, the porting process was a breeze.08:28
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iekkupyksy, ah, that's why i didn't notice. was bit busy that week08:29
pyksyiekku: i bet you were :)08:30
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iekkupyksy, when we can wait more projects from you? :P08:31
pyksyiekku: you never know ;)08:33
iekkumaybe i should send you finally those stickers :P08:34
pyksyiekku: hahah yes you should, i've been waiting for your letter for ages :D08:34
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edgarsjake9xx: can't wait :/ my old htc desire is almost dead09:20
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vgrade_lbt: did you see the note about /home/user , looks like some harmatten apps assume that exists11:18
lbtsilly apps11:18
Stskeepsyes, they're broken if they rely on that11:18
lbtit's /home/nemo of course!11:18
lbtoh, wait11:19
* lbt looks at internal code and asks about people and glasshouses...11:21
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nsuffysHi all ! :)11:25
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nsuffysVery good news this morning : :)11:29
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sledges+100 :)13:15
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: +100 on what ? :)13:17
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sledgeslast said phrase ;)13:23
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: :( I'm missing it13:24
Yanielthe news sure spread fast13:24
sledges11:29 < nsuffys> Very good news this morning :13:24
sledges :)13:24
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: but I hate the design of the Ascend P2 :(13:25
Sfiet_Konstantinhowever, I loved the E71, E72, E63 etc13:25
sledgesand since people in Jolla used to be behind Nokia ;) you'd expect more E-y design, fingers cross(compile)d :)13:26
sledgesI still hope they are going to go this direction: :)13:27
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: I'm not fan of QWERTY13:28
sledgesat least a bit ;) for the full edge-swipe screen13:28
Sfiet_Konstantinnot for the first phone13:28
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, you're the only tech-savvy saying that :P13:28
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause the N9 is simply beautiful13:28
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: I hate landscape QWERTY13:28
sledgesyh, so is Lumia D:13:28
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: no, I'm talking about the overall design13:28
Sfiet_KonstantinOS included13:28
sledgeswe're talking about hw design now13:29
Sfiet_KonstantinI prefer Palm PRE's portrait QWERTY style13:29
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: you cannot separate HW from SW13:29
sledgesthe article/news do ;P13:29
Sfiet_Konstantinand if you have something like silica13:29
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: sad13:29
sledgesyou'll get sailfish, that's a fact13:29
Sfiet_Konstantinyou need a shell (phone) that have the same style13:29
Sfiet_Konstantintransparency maybe ?13:29
sledgesso now in what clothes will you put it in?13:29
Sfiet_Konstantindimmed colors ?13:29
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: :D13:30
Sfiet_KonstantinI don't think that silica suits something like plastic (N9 - Galaxy etc)13:30
sledgesjolla cannot replicate n9 (infringement, and even if they could, JOlla phone would not stand out of lumia's crowd and would get misinterpreted)13:30
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: +113:30
sledgesI completely second N9 is a masterpiece of design13:30
sledgesand overall HW/SW 'roundedness' is just spot on13:30
sledgeswhilst WP does not even support edge-side swipes13:30
sledgesso lumias shape is redundant by SW design13:31
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: yeah13:31
sledgesbut we are where we are, I belive I saw even a Lauta's successor :) and posted that pix randomly (I dislike hw kb as well ;D just didn't say that out loud )13:31
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: :D13:32
Sfiet_KonstantinI won't be against a Lauta successor either13:32
sledgesI think I saw another nice picture, another concept model, lemme search around :)13:32
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Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: without WP of cause :D13:35
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sledgesstill not the phone I had in mind, probably I dream that other one :D13:37
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm thinking about a partially transparent one :)13:37
sledgesso Sfiet_Konstantin why do you dislike Ascend P2 ?13:37
Sfiet_Konstantinsomething that was not done by any OEM13:37
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Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: let's say simply because it is "basic"13:38
Sfiet_Konstantinlookts a bit like a S313:38
Sfiet_Konstantinor basically like any cheap Android device13:38
Sfiet_Konstantinof cause, the phone itself is not that bad, tried it at MWC13:38
Sfiet_Konstantinbut the design is ... meh13:38
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suosaaskiI do think that those pics of some wp phones on infinitys website do look ok. Well, the phone in them, at least. :)13:50
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sledgesand the edges don't look as sharp. Still hope for full roundedness on final Jolla product for convenient swipes :)13:53
lbtwould you mind taking the jolla/infinity chat to #jollamobile?   that way I don't miss sailfishos/sdk chat in the backlog :)13:53
sledgesyeah, already 4 times wanted to suggest that :)) however, what chat though lbt ? ;)13:54
lbtsuosaaski: not picking on you btw13:54
lbtyeah - I keep seeing 'activity' and checking back...13:54
suosaaski(PS. The windows phone in the pics is not the Jolla phone, so I doubt it will look the same. But I do think it looks ok, so it is possible that they would be able to design a decent looking jolla phone, too.)13:54
lbtit is quiet - we need more SDK talk ...13:55
sledges( suosaaski, +1 )13:56
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Sfiet_Konstantinif it is quiet in the SDK side, it means that everything works13:56
Sfiet_Konstantinthat's pretty much the case :P13:56
* sledges gets facebook app flashback through my head, any developments on qfb->nemo-qml-plugins / Friends , Sfiet_Konstantin ?13:57
Sfiet_Konstantinhowever, lbt or Stskeeps, do you think that we will get features like the BB10 emu, or QtSDK Nokia emu (aka emulating GPS, GSM network, orientation etc) ?13:57
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: sadly no :( I do not have much time, being sick most of the time + uni13:58
lbtSfiet_Konstantin: we will - but not in the beta13:58
sledgesok. I currently have two choices - finalise Pandaboard HA for Nemo (Sage ?) or look into social apps/mw for sailfish13:58
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: well, look at chriadam|away's code on github13:59
sledgesyes, that's what I meant by saying that :)13:59
Sfiet_Konstantinit is already pretty good I think13:59
sledgesstill remember mediating between you two :D13:59
Sfiet_Konstantinyeah but I really want to contribute to it but no time :(:(:(13:59
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm a bit mad about uni these days :D13:59
sledgesmmmm, if QML is sort-of open-source (even when it's embedded in a binary), could I peep into Nokia FB Client intestines? ;)14:00
Naranekbtw are there any potential PIM applications for sailfish? I'm just guessing that Jolla won't have enough resources to build one in house.14:00
sledgesit will all pass Sfiet_Konstantin :)14:00
sledgesNaranek, I believe Nemo's will be coded on14:00
Stskeepsdefine PIM14:01
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: nokia FB one is not on QML14:01
Sfiet_Konstantinit is based on meegotouch14:01
VDVsxSfiet_Konstantin, no, is QML, same for twitter14:01
sledgeslooked qmly.. anyway, will be exciting :)14:01
Sfiet_KonstantinVDVsx: :O14:01
Naranekyeah... the calendar is my main interest though14:02
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause it feels very different in use14:02
VDVsxthey are both quite "heavy" imo, better start somewhere :)14:02
sledgesNaranek, qmlcalendar
NaranekI'll check it out14:03
sledgesI think Jolla will take what's best of Nemo, and add what's better :)14:03
sledgesmeanwhile it can be developed on, (hands-on try rite now - have Nemo running), whilst we are chatting here :))14:03
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: you can even develop them inside the Sailfish SDK isn't it ?14:08
sledgesI reckon so :)14:09
sledgesI'd imagine Nemo being a sandbox - all the apps are already there, they do lack of integration, but for first dabbing around one could try integrating Contacts(People app) e.g. into Messages (qmlmessages) app :) etc. Surely all could be done even on Sailfish SDK+VM14:11
Naranekseems like a nice way to get to know the sailfish sdk as well14:14
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situEmpty textarea seems to behave strangely to me, I can't select and write text on it.18:33
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Yanieloops, wrong window18:50
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