Monday, 2013-12-02

artemmaI posted HelloWorld Pro template/wizard for Jolla yesterday. 10 retweets, 75 clicks. Retweeters + me altogether have 6.6K followers.00:01
artemmaNow what does it tell us about he size of Jolla developer community?00:01
planasbhow much cost Jolla phone ?00:02
artemmabut then clicks were counted for tweet only. Some people picked up the link from mailing list of this channel probably. Ah.. should have arranged experiment better00:02
artemmaor* this channel probably00:03
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kaltsiWnt: did you solve the install problem already?05:38
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zuhPossibly related to install problems: Do *not* touch the "Allow developer updates" unless you know exactly what happens when you do and how to undo it. It will break store and developer mode.06:32
tbryup :)06:35
tbralthough IMO it's a bug that stuff stops working once you touch that, but don't enter valid credentials...06:36
zuhAnd when the option is a bit fuzzy on details... "Allow developer updates" (well I'm a developer, and in developer mode!) and "requires registration" (oh yeah, registered with jolla account & harbour)06:37
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crevetorhi guys08:07
Stskeepsmorn crevetor08:07
crevetor2 questions : is QtLocation/QtPositioning supported on the device ATM ?08:07
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crevetorand is there instructions somewhere to build an rpm for the harbour (setting up the right target, etc)08:08
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crevetorSo that means no QtLocation/QtPositioning08:10
Stskeepsas in it's there but not supported, as it's not really a stable abi yet08:10
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crevetorWhat's the url I should use to get a build target for the actual device ?08:11
crevetorStskeeps: a08:13
Stskeepscrevetor: hmm, i don't know08:14
crevetorStskeeps: also are the applications supposed to all have their settings in a centralised place ?08:14
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crevetorStskeeps: and how do people go about creating an RPM that they can put on the harbour ? I don't have an arm target setup in my SDK, is that normal ?08:17
kaltsicrevetor: which sdk do you have.. arm target was introduced in the "1310" installer08:18
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Wntkaltsi: not yet08:18
kaltsiWnt: ok.. do you have ssh/fingerterm.. can you check what "ssu domain" says?08:19
crevetorkaltsi: is that info only available in the installer ? Cause I think I deleted the installer.08:19
Wntkaltsi: just a minute08:19
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kaltsicrevetor: hmm you could check qtcreator build date from the about dialog08:20
crevetorjuly 31st08:20
Wntkaltsi: "Device domain is currently: jolla"08:20
kaltsicrevetor: ok that looks like it's installed from old sdk, could you get a new installer from
crevetorsure thing08:21
kaltsiWnt: ok.. do: ssu domain sales => you'll be fine after that :)08:21
Wntkaltsi: ok, thanks!08:21
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Master-Passelihi, how is the location things working on sailfish if QtLocation/QtPositioning modules are not there?10:11
Master-Passeliif i understund right QtMobility contains some location things but it was not supported either10:12
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tbrMaster-Passeli: mobility is gone. Things were reorganized in Qt5 and there should be APIs in that.10:22
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Master-Passelii can not find any API from Qt5 which handles GPS type of positioning or is that implemented by some other library10:28
tbrMaster-Passeli: /usr/lib/qt5/qml/QtLocation  -- sure looks like something to me...10:31
Master-Passelioh, that's promising. i was reading this and QML API list from there. That list is outdated or I'm missing something here.10:34
Master-Passelibut excellent if that is included10:34
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kaltsiMaster-Passeli: believe the faq until it changes, otherwise you will be disappointed if you try to send an app to the harbour10:35
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Master-Passeliok, actually i don't even have the SDK installed but i'm going to play with Sailfish when my phone comes :)10:37
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TofeI wonder, out of curiosity, is there a "ls -lR" file list of the sailfish os rootfs image for the Jolla device ?10:45
Tofeor even just a tree view10:46
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tachikomaawesome, the sdk even comes with a tutorial10:58
pieeand then10:59
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leinirby the way - any sailors here right now who could poke the care team to look at ticket 2062? just 'cos i did pay, but it's not showing up and such, which is a little silly, and i'd rather not have that 314 euros hanging in the ether for too long ;)11:00
tachikomamh, i have had issues with paying, so now i have 4 phones in my shop basket and one is paid, two are waiting for payment and one is canceled. I assume that should not be any problem, however, if i need to do something about that, let me know11:03
leinirwell, my problem is i /did/ pay, payment accepted and everything, but the session had timed out when i got back to the shop site, and after logging in, it obviously must have lost the response and now it doesn't know the payment succeeded...11:04
tachikomahm, sound like you should the care team by mail11:05
leiniri did11:06
leinirhence the ticket number :)11:06
tachikomalol, sorry, i did not realize that11:08
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leinirHehe, nothing to apologise for :)11:21
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tortoisedocI think I have finally found the reason for the batterly leakage12:40
tortoisedocwhen net is on (data / wlan) it drains alot12:40
tortoisedocmore than when it is no12:40
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TheBootrooyey finally got my 'CityBike' app approved  on harbour :13:06
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HartziTheBootroo: nice13:06
Hartziwhat the app does? :P13:06
TheBootrooHartzi: A simple application to use the bike service of JCDecaux in many cities in the world. It allows you to search stations, and view the count of bikes and free slots.13:07
TheBootrooIt has a nice map of the cities it covers. It also features a time counting cover view, to simply track your time usage when app is minimized.13:08
Hartzioh nice :)13:08
Hartziany finnish cities there?13:08
TheBootroolemme chck13:08
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TheBootrooHartzi: seems that no, only 2 cities for Swedish and 1 for Norway13:10
TheBootroofull list here
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TofeTheBootroo: Great !13:15
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TomMettamHello :) has anyone experienced issues with launching the Mer SDK VM in windows?14:15
TomMettamit worked once but won't launch again :/14:15
TomMettamHello :)14:17
tortoisedocwhat you mean by launching again?14:17
tachikomaTomMettam: sorry, i just fail getting it to work under linux14:17
tortoisedocthere are problems when trying to compile after a suspend14:17
tachikomabut my problem is VirtualBox, images can;t be booted now14:17
tortoisedocso qtcreator can't connect?14:18
TomMettamI managed to get it to launch now. It seems to be highly tempremental though, it takes several attempts to connect successfully14:18
tortoisedocit takes some time14:18
tortoisedocto launch it14:18
TomMettamyes, but it times out in a few seconds :P14:18
TomMettamso you have to try multiple times14:18
tortoisedochmm even after the vm has started properly?14:18
tortoisedocthat is exactly what happens to me after a system resume (from suspend for example)14:20
tortoisedocanother issue14:20
tortoisedocwith wlan this time14:20
tortoisedoccoming from home (wlan1) to office (wlan2), wlan2 never used, trying to connect to wlan2 fails14:20
tortoisedocphone does not ask for pass for wlan214:21
tortoisedocafter reboot, it does14:21
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tortoisedoccould it be14:23
tortoisedocit sets only one password for all wlan's (bug)?? :D14:24
TomMettamIt seems once I have an app running it's stable, i can relaunch them at any time14:24
TomMettambut after the vm has booted, it seems to take many attempts before i can connect to it to deploy14:25
TomMettami wonder if stuff hasn't actually started in the background14:25
tortoisedocTomMettam : yes it takes time until the vm has properly booted14:25
tortoisedoc(depending on your hw)14:25
TomMettamCan't wait to get my jolla so i can try this on an actual device :)14:26
tortoisedochow can I get wget..14:29
tortoisedoclet's see14:29
tortoisedocshould be mer tool right?14:30
tortoisedocmer-tools is installed14:30
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TomMettamoh dear, the default sample app segfaulted :P14:31
tortoisedoczypper not available on device14:32
Fryetortoisedoc, pkcon is the replacement methinks14:34
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tortoisedocthanks frye14:35
TomMettamdoes anyone know if there is a way to programatically disable the gesture interaction? In situations like a game that requires a lot of swiping, i can imagine them getting in the way14:36
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w00tset Qt::WindowOverridesSystemGestures on your window14:40
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TomMettamah, gotcha. thanks14:40
tortoisedocw00t : it seems compositor renders QQuickView's on (0,0) corner by default14:43
tortoisedoccan that be overridden?14:43
w00ttortoisedoc: no14:44
w00tmake your view fullscreen and offset the content yourself14:44
tortoisedocw00t : thanks14:44
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tortoisedocw00t : repo for qt5-tools?14:45
tortoisedocI guess I should not try to rely on the nemo ones (from device)14:46
w00twhat tools are you trying to use?14:46
tortoisedocwget / qtdbus14:47
tortoisedoc(wget is not in qt but heh)14:47
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w00tqt5-qttools-qdbus should just be in the default repos14:49
tortoisedocauth failed :/14:49
tortoisedocssu auth14:50
tortoisedoc(is ssu setup correctly?)14:50
Aardtortoisedoc: output of ssu domain, please14:51
tortoisedoccredentials-url-jolla= credentials-url-store=https://store-repository.jolla.com14:54
tortoisedocAard: how to get it from command line?14:54
Aardtortoisedoc: you type ssu domain, and press enter :)14:54
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tortoisedocDevice domain : jolla14:55
tortoisedochey ssu domain is *NOT* in the help screen of ssu :P14:55
Aardok, you tried to register for developer updates we don't provide yet, and hit the bug where it changes the domain on unsuccessful registration attempts14:56
Aarddo ssu domain sales, and things should work again14:56
Aardtortoisedoc: ideally the user should not need to know about ssu domains at all ;)14:57
tortoisedocAard : noo why it is so much fun :P14:59
tortoisedocok got my apk :D14:59
tortoisedochow to install it via command line?14:59
tortoisedocbrowser does not suggest to install it15:05
artemmaA-and Helloworld Pro got approved by Jolla Harbour! So you've got an officially good template that doesn't make a developer heart cry and passes App Store validation!
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Aardtortoisedoc: xdg-open `pwd`/path-to-apk15:07
Aardor if you downloaded it from browser, go to transferui, and tap on it there15:08
tortoisedocAard : aah right15:12
tortoisedocactually I found apkd-install :P15:12
tortoisedocI wonder if I can associate android apps with mime types yet?15:13
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sharpneliWhat are the march and other flags used in sailfish by default?15:47
sharpneliI'm compiling stuff manually15:47
Stskeeps-marm -mfloat-abi=hard -march=armv7-a -mfpu=vfpv3-d1615:48
HurrianStskeeps: no NEON?15:48
StskeepsHurrian: you can do NEON if you want, it'll probably be new basis of sailfish15:49
Stskeepswe just didn't do the switch yet15:49
sharpneliFunnily enough I've actually gotten performance regressions if I've built stuff for neon15:51
HurrianYou should probably work with the Mer team to chase armv7tnhl again ;)15:51
Stskeepsoh, it does work15:52
w00tStskeeps: the qemu issues got sorted out?15:52
Stskeepsjust that it started working way too late and we didn't see sufficient impact15:52
Stskeepsw00t: AFAIK15:52
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sharpneliI'm trying to build and run the test_glesv2.c under hybris. However on device it segfaults at #3  0x40046e94 in eglCreateWindowSurface () from /usr/lib/
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Stskeepsit probably doesn't work that easily fwiw16:13
zuhsharpneli: what Stskeeps said, but do you run it as nemo? Without setting EGL_PLATFORM=fbdev? That would crash about there I believe...16:14
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sharpnelizuh: Works. Thanks16:16
sharpneliI tried to google but I was unable to find that particular info16:16
HurrianStskeeps: noticed a bug in your timezone info: Asia/Manila shouldn't be UTC +9, it's +8 ;)16:17
StskeepsHurrian: eep16:17
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StskeepsHurrian: DST involved?16:21
StskeepsHurrian: filed sailfish bug16:21
Yanielsharpneli: where are you trying to set sailfish up?16:21
HurrianStskeeps: We're not a DST country (anymore) :)16:22
sharpneliYaniel: I'm doing a benchmark of
sharpneliI have my own GLESv2 running and working now16:24
sharpneliI'm going to test the supplied GLES2_DLSYM macro versus #define GLES2_DLSYM(sym) do {  if (__builtin_expect(*(_ ## sym) == NULL,0)) {if (_libglesv2 == NULL) { _init_androidglesv2(); }; *(&_ ## sym) = (void *) android_dlsym(_libglesv2, #sym); } } while (0)  this one16:24
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Yanielah right this was the project with the empy README etc files16:25
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HurrianStskeeps: other than that, I've been playing with SFOS binaries on a certain OMAP3630 device, and it's jaw-droppingly pretty.16:32
StskeepsHurrian: n950?16:32
HurrianN9 ;)16:33
* Hurrian notes to self to buy real jPhone to experience it without the bugs :P16:33
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sigmaorionHurrian, that means running SFOS over Nokia's kernel adaptation?16:47
Hurriansigmaorion, nokia's kernel adaptation which was eventually handed over to Nemo/Mer project ;)16:48
Hurrianso yes, I guess.
Hurrianthe 3.x kernel is said to improve performance, but it doesn't like the N9 too much :P16:49
sigmaorionHurrian, that's pretty nice! But what about, for example, GPS? Would it work that way or does it have the same limitation as in Nemo?16:49
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Hurriansigmaorion: GPS and camera are broken.16:50
HurrianCamera could probably be fixed, GPS is doubtful.16:50
sigmaorionyeah, GPS needs reverse engineering, right?16:52
TomMettamwouldn't the GPS module just be NMEA?16:52
w00tno, which is why it's not straightforward16:52
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Hurrianunless someone would like to rip gpsd straight off harmattan, it's not happening.16:53
sigmaorionw00t, what exactly needs to be reverse-engineered? the protocol, the binaries or both?16:53
w00tsigmaorion: i have no idea anymore, i'm out of touch with the device/problem - the notes on that page are what I came up with when I looked at this last16:54
sigmaorionyeah, anyway, we are getting off-topic, I guess :)16:55
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sigmaorionI'm out for lunch, cya later guys!16:55
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saildevi've had this problem: "Error while building/deploying project (kit: MerSDK-SailfishOS-armv7hl) -- When executing step 'Rpm'"18:13
saildevehm, i've had this problem before but either cleaning project, restarting sdk or rebooting computer has worked.. now nothing seems to work i've tried. any ideas? :)18:13
saildevoh, never mind.. it was just that i didn't have an app icon... :/18:16
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otto_Are there some docs somewhere that explain what the Developer Mode does?18:24
otto_I can see that it enables the Fingerterm app, but I'd like to know more as the warning dialog says it can physically damage my phone.18:24
tbrotto_: well, you can devel-su and then proceed to alter files necessary to boot the phone, rendering it unbootable and needing a reflash by jolla18:27
tbras there is currently no public flasher that would mean sending the phone in or if a sailor is kind enough meeting up with them18:28
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tbrpossibly you could overwrite further data (just like on N900 and N9) that would render the device permanently unusable (aka a brick)18:29
otto_tbr: does the developer mode activation do anything besides reveal the fingerterm app?18:29
specialotto_: yes, it enables SSH, etc18:30
tbrit installs the developer-mode package that does presumably a couple more things18:30
tbralso developer USB mode18:30
sharpneliJolla needs a Stowaway program with some sort of NDA that would allow ppl to get a flashable image18:30
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tbrsharpneli: I think they are working on public images and safe ways to flash the device. Remember, their priority was to ship a device. :)18:32
sharpneliI'd be happy to visit Ruoholahti (and pub Amsterdam ;) and sign some soul binding agreement with my blood only if that would allow me to play with the device :D18:32
sharpneliI know :)18:32
Stskeepsfood at meritahti first18:33
tbralso Meritähti is acceptable18:33
tbrgood burgers there18:33
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otto_ok, so I'll run rpm -A | grep developer-mode and check out that package to see what installing it brings18:34
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sharpneliI've lost count of the Meritähti -> Amsterdam evenings I've had there :D18:36
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Stskeepssharpneli: we continue the proud tradition18:42
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sharpneliAs it should be o/18:44
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shmerlMSameer: Hi!18:57
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stephgevening everyone19:09
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stephgI am in the kitchen making risotto19:10
stephg(I thought you'd all like to know that)19:11
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sigmaorionstephg, bon appétit!19:15
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stephgwhy thankyou!19:15
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sigmaorionsome day try milanesa napolitana (, my favorite, hehe!19:17
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Stskeepswell hello there19:22
JodiJodiJodiAh life!19:22
JodiJodiJodiAnyone know where I could get help getting the Vms to work with the sdk in windows - I'm having ... issues.19:23
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shmerlStskeeps: Do you know if /etc/zypp/repos.d/mer-tools.repo can be just removed from the SDK?19:23
Stskeepsshmerl: you probably can't, but, there's a workaround on mer-general19:23
stephgJodiJodiJodi what are the issues you're having19:23
stephg(not used it on Windows but we might be able to help)19:24
shmerlFor me it points to for some reason.19:24
JodiJodiJodiQtCreator doesn't seem to be able to see the MerSDK and Emulator VMs properly.19:24
JodiJodiJodiI suspect it's just my machine setup, but I have no idea where to look for solving it.19:24
stephgand either/both of the VMs are running?19:25
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JodiJodiJodiok. So I can start the VMs manually in my control panel. But If I use qtcreator to start them, it fails.19:25
stephgany error?19:25
JodiJodiJodibut even if the sdk and emulator are running, qtcreator doesn't see them and prompts me to start them19:25
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stephgwhich version of virtualbox?19:26
JodiJodiJodi(when I press the run button)19:26
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JodiJodiJodihang a mo - finding the version...19:26
fk_lxJodiJodiJodi: sometimes going to settings and regenerating keys help19:27
fk_lxalso restart of QtCreator19:27
shmerlDo you mean this?
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JodiJodiJodi4.3.0 r8996019:27
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shmerlStskeeps: It looks like I already applied that workaround in the past. I just forgot that it steel kept in the configs.19:29
JodiJodiJodiAs an aside. Is it possible to run the SDK inside a linux vm on a windows host?19:30
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stephgJodiJodiJodi in principle it should work I'd have thought19:31
specialif you wanted to, I don't see why not. You might want to enable passthrough of the CPU virtualization features if your windows VM software supports it19:31
JodiJodiJodiIf I cannot get the windows sdk to work - I might try it inside my linux vm instead.19:31
sigmaorionJodiJodiJodi, I've got no issues on W7 home premium... whay Win version do you use?19:34
JodiJodiJodiWin7 pro x6419:34
stephgyou're vbox is a little on the old side19:35
stephg(just saying)19:35
JodiJodiJodioh - is it?19:35
JodiJodiJodiok - ill upgrade that first.19:35
JodiJodiJodiOh, and I used non-standard install paths for the SDK. Is that known to be an issue?19:36
stephgmight be, you can have issues with the sdk/qtcreator not finding things if you do that in linux19:37
stephgbut that shouldn't impact whether it can see the VMs or not19:37
JodiJodiJodiYea, I noticed it didn't honour the non-default home path. Had to move my project to c:\users\<login name>\19:39
JodiJodiJodiI also had QtCreator already installed before installing the SDK. Hopefully that doesn't confuse things either.19:40
stephgit might19:40
stephgdo you have several projects?19:40
JodiJodiJodiheh. hence why I believe it's more a problem with my machine than the SDK itself.19:40
stephgif not, I'd upgrade the vbox and then nuke everything and reinstall19:40
JodiJodiJodiYup. I'll keep trying. I will not give up quite yet.19:42
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stephggood luck and let us know how you get on :)19:43
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JodiJodiJodiyea. I started the SDK vm manually, QtCreator said the emulator wasn't started. I said don't start it, and it built fine. Seems the tool that detects the VMs doesn't work properly.19:49
JodiJodiJodianyway - off to reinstall stuff. BBL.19:49
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sigmaorionJodiJodiJodi, VB 4.2.18 here... so it might not be the VB version I guess19:54
stephgsigmaorion good spot19:56
stephgI was kinda going on the hunch that (certainly the sailfish) sdk was a bit of a moving target19:56
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stephgbut it does sound rather environmental19:56
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sigmaorionso... is there any bored volunteer who would like to test my very tiny app in a real device? (asked on the mailing list as well already, it's a "game" for babies)20:00
sigmaorion* of course I would provide sources!!!20:02
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Wntshould the ApplicationWindow activate() deactivate() methods work in the emulator?20:16
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WntI have a CoverAction with "onTriggered: { pageStack.pop(); mainWindow.activate(); }", but the application doesn't come to the foreground20:17
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sigmaorionWnt, just a shoot in the darkness... what about focus()?20:24
StskeepsWnt: emulator may have a more ancient version than the device of compositor20:24
jabalvwhy jolla?20:24
jabalvwhy 4,5" inch20:24
Stskeepsjabalv: why not :)20:24
jabalvi don`t understand what people are doing with those large phones20:24
jabalvi think it`s suck20:24
Yanieljabalv: they poke them20:24
Yanieland in the case of the jolla, stroke20:25
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jabalvi just read about that and i thought would be good to have that phone20:25
jabalvthen i read about size and my hands lay down20:25
jabalvi think there would be better market for phones if they go for smaller sizes20:25
jabalvmax 4.120:25
jabalvnot possible to manage so large phone in one hand20:26
YanielI agree, the current phones are hard to fit in a pocket nicely20:26
jabalvthats why iphone beats all, they made it compact and small, easy to manage in one hand20:26
Bysmyyrjabalv: sailfish makes managing better20:27
jabalv4,5" inch20:27
jabalvsoftware might be, but size of divice suck anyway20:27
Yanielthat was known fora long time already20:28
Yanieljust look at those specs ;)20:28
shmerlBtw, will Intel chips be much more expensive than Qualcomm ones? They are supposedly coming next year (Merrifield).20:29
Yanieland FYI the iPhone 5S is 5" in diagonal20:29
FabianSjabalv: I like the extra screen space for typing and web browsing.20:29
FabianSI wouldn't get any phone with < 4.5"20:30
shmerlYeah, more than 4.5" is not ergonomic.20:30
Yanielhmm a side-by-side shot of the iPhone 5S and Jolla anyone?20:30
Yaniellooking at the iPhone specs atm20:31
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Yanieland I get 5" diagonal for the phone and it says 4" screen20:31
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shmerlI think Jolla is just on the edge, where anything larger would be not comfortable.20:31
Morpog_PCYaniel, iphone 4
shmerlI really have no idea how people use 5"+ screen handsets.20:31
Yanielokay there the Jolla is just massive20:32
FabianSThe iPhone is much bigger.20:32
FabianSThe iPhone is tiny20:33
shmerlI'd say n9 is compact.20:33
Morpog_PCJolla and his old friends:
ShadowJKConsidering phones are moving into 6" screens now...20:33
shmerlThere was Jolla with old friends actually running20:33
FabianSShadowJK: Not really.20:33
shmerlTry putting such huge device in your front pocket.20:33
FabianSHighend phones are 4.5-5.2"20:33
FabianSS4, HTC One, Nexus 5, LG G2.20:34
ShadowJKMorpog_PC, hey, N810W is missing :)20:34
shmerlHere is a better one, Jolla & friends:
Yanielheh, there it does not look that big20:35
WntStskeeps: yeah: activate() and deactivate() seem to work on the device20:35
sigmaorionI think the right edges make it look bigger than it is20:35
Morpog_PCN900 is twice as thick :)20:35
sigmaorion(hard edges?)20:36
FabianSPhones got much slimmer.20:36
FabianSAny current "phablet" is slimmer than a 2010 smartphone.20:36
ShadowJKIt's kinda weird, I'd have no issues putting N800 in any pocket whatsoever, because it's built so nicely.. It has lots of air inside the plastic, so shocks bumps and external force does not transmit to the internals easily20:36
Yanieljabalv: anyway I'd like a slightly smaller phone too20:36
ShadowJKBut N9 and jolla start looking scary to keep in pocket20:37
Morpog_PCFabianS, well N900 was a thick phone already when it was released20:37
Yanielthen again I haven't got my jolla yet so I can't say how well I'd get used to that20:37
newinhey all !20:37
Yanielhey newin20:37
FabianSThe N9 is thick too.20:37
newin(from france btw...)20:38
Morpog_PCFabianS, yeah but it looks slim :)20:38
guaquai'd say jolla is on the okay side. the screen size is fine, but could maybe loose a centimeter from the bottom where the screen doesn't extend to20:38
lpottern9 is not thick. n95 is thick20:38
FabianSI like 5" screen size.20:38
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Morpog_PCguaqua, I think the lagre bezels are the masterplan for Jolla 2, so it fits a 4,7 to 4,9" display in same housing20:39
guaquaMorpog_PC: interesting. makes sense. same other half etc20:40
FabianSI think it's just cheaper to make a phone with fat bezels ;)20:41
ShadowJKExtra cushion for the fragile screens is nice too20:41
Morpog_PCFabianS, that too, but still applys to the masterplan for Jolla 2 :D20:41
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ryukafalzI had an N810 and having that physical kb was so nice20:54
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shmerlIs anyone using sapphire screens already?21:00
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union[]shmerl, yes21:16
shmerlWho exactly?21:16
union[]vertu is using sapphire screens, but their devices are not cheap21:17
shmerlAre those screens bumping the price or they are cost effective?21:18
union[]afaik, sapphire screens are expensive. It's not a problem for vertu because their devices are priced at around 5000 usd21:19
shmerlIf it's not cost effective, then we probably won't see them used widely.21:20
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union[]I don't know, there are rumour that the next iphone will use it21:25
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WntIs there something like PageStack.onPop that I could use to reset the cover back to the default cover?21:41
Wntwhen I pop a page from the page stack programmatically I can set the cover page back to the default, but if the user navigates backwards using a swipe gesture the cover page is set to undefined21:43
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Wntoh, even the component gallery demo app loses it's cover when navigating back from the Cover view page21:48
Wntbut the one that is in the emulator preloaded (the one with web view) reverts back to the default cover21:49
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Wntah, the preloaded version has:  onStatusChanged: { if (status == PageStatus.Deactivating) { mainWindow.cover = "private/DefaultCover.qml"21:55
leinirWnt: you might want to have a look at Qt Quick's state system21:57
leinirsuspect you'd be able to come up with something sensible that way21:58
Wntpeeking to the qml files of the preloaded silicacomponentgallery-qt5 revealed that21:59
leinirin particular two things will be of interest: the default state (what's in the properties when the page is first loaded, the state named ""), and the PropertyChange state thing21:59
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JodiJodiJodiSo, tip of the day for windows SDK users: Run everything as administrator.22:02
JodiJodiJodiI blame the sdk makers for assuming root on windows ;-)22:02
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stephgJodiJodiJodi you're working then?22:03
JodiJodiJodiyup - I uninstalled, upgraded vbox, rebooted and reinstalled (installer needs to be run as admin). Then ran the IDE as admin, and it all works22:04
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JodiJodiJodiSo I suspect I just ran into permission problems last time.22:04
JodiJodiJodiman, everytime I have issues with a computer it's permssions. Windows or Linux. bah.22:04
stephgwell at least you're functioning again :)22:05
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FryeIf I use ListModel.append to add an element is there a way to get a pointer to it or somehow the index for it.23:24
FryeI'm appending a text field which I would like to have focus when added.23:24
Fryesimply adding focus: true does not seem to do the trick23:25
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DarkSimSo has anyone tried running Sailfish on a Nexus 4?23:45
Morpog_PCHave it perefectly running here on my Nexus 423:48
Morpog_PCeven GPS works23:48
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Morpog_PC*joke* :D23:49
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DarkSimI was offered a Nexus 4 for 115 USD23:50
Morpog_PCgood deal23:50
DarkSimSo I was hoping I could use it as my Sailfish phone23:50
DarkSimbut if it doesn't have that ability :/23:50
DarkSimDoesn't seem like it will ever happen23:51
ottulosomeone got Sailfish working on Xperia23:51
ottuloso why not on Nexus?23:51
Morpog_PCthat was SDK image23:51
ottulostill, it was working23:51
Morpog_PCottulo, as soon as tutorial from Jolla is out, it will be on alot of devices I guess23:51
DarkSimSo is the problem lying with A) the phone or B) Sailfish?23:52
Morpog_PCc) no one made it yet23:52
ottuloDarkSim: Sailfish hasn't been released by itself yet23:52
ottuloso it's more difficult to start porting23:52
DarkSimBecause some people told me I should just use Mer as of now23:52
Morpog_PCDarkSim, getting nemomobile running on your Nexus4 is a very good preparation23:52
DarkSimSo let's say that A) I'm not interested in a physical keyboard which The Other Half MIGHT bring23:52
Morpog_PCsee N950/N923:52
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DarkSimWould the Sailfish without the Other Half be good still?23:53
Morpog_PCDarkSim, that physical keyboard is nonsense for a portrait driven UI23:53
Morpog_PCDarkSim, no one can say that atm23:53
Morpog_PCI guess a prefect solution will be on Jolla's own phone for at least a year23:54
DarkSimBecause my HTC One X will never ever for the light of day see Sailfish or anything remotely useful23:54
DarkSimNo support, it's locked down, the actual specs sucks23:55
DarkSimthe list goes on23:55
Morpog_PCif it runs Cyanogenmod, it should be prepared for SailfishOS23:55
DarkSimYeah but if I want OTA updates I need to manually plug in my phone and update it23:55
DarkSimI have unlocked the bootloader but I can't get S-off23:55
DarkSimAlso the international version which I have has the Tegra 3, which is the worst piece of hardware I've seen in a phone lol23:56
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Morpog_PCwell, should be still alot faster than N923:56
DarkSimRandomly exceeds 50 degrees of heat with emergency shutdowns23:56
DarkSimTHUMBS UP!23:56
DarkSimLast time I actually got it to reset by using the Twitter client...23:57

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