Wednesday, 2013-12-04

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DarkFoxSo many join/part :O06:57
* DarkFox votes for someone here to host everyone a ZNC :D06:57
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Nicd-DarkFox: or maybe you should hide them in your client07:25
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DarkFoxNicd-: Nahh07:26
tabaskoseems like we dont get jollas at this week either :/07:28
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TheBootroohi !07:49
TheBootrooJvD_: you said there were 4 DL on my app ? but on harbour my dashboard has '0' everywhere (downloads, reviews...))07:50
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JvD_it had 3 before I downloaded07:53
JvD_17 download and 3 likes right now07:54
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TheBootrooJvD_: i can't see these data on Harbour.... and i have no access to Jolla Store without a device :-(07:54
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JvD_I hope soon you will07:58
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tortoisedockaltsi : believing the log is not the problem, understanding what it means is :P08:03
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saildevany idea why sdk gives me an error everytime i try to build my projects? no matter i create a new project and try to build it and no matter i've tried to reinstall the sdk...08:31
saildevbash: /usr/bin/[project] No such file or directory08:31
saildevRemote application finished with exit code 127.08:31
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saildevand instead of [project] is a project name.. but it happenes with every project so..08:31
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kaltsisaildev: are you building for the emulator or a real device?08:32
saildevdevice type: mer emulator device / device: sailfishos emulator08:33
kaltsidoes the default template project also do that for you?08:33
saildevyes it does08:33
kaltsido you deploy as rpm?08:34
saildevi've tried armv7hl and i486-x86 builds08:34
saildevand yes.. was coming into it :D08:34
saildevas rpm and copying binaries08:34
saildevall of them08:34
kaltsihave you installed the sdk from the "1310" installer?08:34
saildevthe one on sailfishos.org08:35
saildevbut i've updated it08:35
saildevthe funny thing is, though, it creates a rpm package that i'm able to install with pkcon install-local08:36
saildevand it works normally08:36
kaltsicould you create a new template project, select deploy as rpm (i486) and press run .. and send me the whole build log from qtc's window08:36
saildevyeah, sure08:36
saildevhold on08:36
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saildevdebug or release?08:36
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kaltsilet's try debug08:37
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kaltsialso what was your host again.. linux/mac/win?08:37
saildevhmm.. now it deploys it to emulator but it gives me a bunch of errors08:38
saildevyesterday it didn't build anything08:38
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kaltsiyou said you've built for both arm and i486.. have you cleaned the project in between?08:39
saildevyes, tried that one as well08:39
saildevyesterday the debug option didn't work either.. now if i use it instead of release i am able to push it to emulator08:42
kaltsiok the errors (warnings) I see in the log are about the files stuff in yaml and spec files08:42
kaltsiWarning for %files line: "/usr/share/icons/hicolor/90x90/apps" please use %{_datadir} to replace the leading path /usr/share08:42
saildevbut release doesn't work..08:42
kaltsithat kind of thing means that the yaml file has path /usr/share... when it really wants to see %{_datadir} instead ..08:42
kaltsibut qtcreator automatically adds the /usr/share/.. paths to the yaml and is the one that causes this problem08:43
saildevso i remove everything from yaml file except those starting with % ?08:43
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saildevin files section, of course08:43
kaltsiyou can, but qtc will re-add them there08:43
kaltsiit doesn't understand the %{_datadir} type rpm macros08:44
kaltsiI believe that should be fixable :)08:44
kaltsiso the end result is that you get a spec file that contains both the /usr/share and %{_datadir} paths which are the same and you get the "files listed twice" warning at the end of the build08:44
saildevok.. but two days a go i didn't have these problems.. and i haven't done any changes?08:45
kaltsithis particular thing has always been there.. you'll see the first part only the first time you build (unless you modify the yaml file) because yaml is converted to spec only if there are changes in the yaml or a spec file doesn't exist08:46
kaltsithe files listed twice may or may not be there depending on if you manually edit the generated spec file to remove the duplicated entries08:47
kaltsiabout the release vs debug.. could you run clean and select release build and try with that08:47
kaltsiI don't see why it wouldn't work if debug build works08:47
saildevstill nothing with the release08:50
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saildevi mean, it still gives the same error08:52
kaltsiok can you show me that build log and also the application log08:52
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saildevhmm that is weird08:54
saildevnothing on compile output?08:54
saildevexcept that failed to 'rpm'08:54
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saildevhmm, hold on08:56
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saildevokay so i redownloaded the installation package and reinstalled it and now i works09:09
saildevnot sure what was wrong with it but i tried to reinstall the sdk from the same installation file i downloaded 3 days a go09:09
saildevso probably there were some problems when i downloaded it09:10
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kaltsisaildev: ok glad to hear that09:36
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saildevis there a way to get a longitude and latitude in qt5.1? I've tried QtPositioning 5.0 but it doesn't seem to work.. or then i just can't figure it out09:50
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saildevso... anyone knows is it possible to get the current gps location with qml or javascript?10:58
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tortoisedocsaildev: I think there was an object already in qtquick 1.0 for that?12:05
saildevyeah but what about qtquick 2?12:05
tortoisedocmaybe it's the same=?12:06
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saildevhmm.. i just couldn't find anything useful12:07
saildevi did found qtpositioning 5.0 but that didn't work at all - or then i just didn't know how to use it12:08
tortoisedocwhat was it in qtquick 1.0..cant remember12:09
tortoisedocharmattan memories have been wiped out by Jolla xD12:09
saildevdo you mean qtmobility 1.2?12:10
saildevit was for meego only12:10
saildevnot sure can i use it on sailfish :/12:10
saildevbecause if i remember it right it's nokia's12:10
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ponky_is there a native support for l2tp vpn (yet?)12:20
cos-any ideas how to get rid of virtual kb, and how to load svg images in qml?12:23
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TheBootroocos-: SVG works with QML Image, as with only other format, just need the qsvg imageformat plugin for Qt to be deployed,12:26
TheBootrooand if you want to close VKBD just unfocus your focused item12:26
cos-TheBootroo: how can i get the plugin deployed? i already have Qt5Svg and Qt5Xml in yaml's PkgConfigBR and QT += svg in project file12:27
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TheBootrooQtSvg is not imageformat/qsvg12:28
TheBootrooask someone better than me about this though12:29
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cos-i suppose the actual library should be installed by default.. it makes no sense that applications would need to install it.12:30
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cos-and about the vkb issue: i have focus: false in all my TextEdit's and they are not visible. still the vkb is displayed when my app is started.12:32
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FryeI have similar issue when I try to set focus on a list model item I create with JS.12:37
FryeFor some reason the focus wont be set.12:37
FryeI'm using myListModel.setProperty(index, "focus", true) Or trying to use.12:38
FryeDoes it require that the parent item has the focus already?12:38
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FryeThere is no error reported when setting the focus, however the component containing text field does not get the focus.12:48
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TheBootrooFrye: doesn't work, you don't have to use model for that12:52
Fryeok, I'm all puzzled with this qml12:52
TheBootroomodel item doesn't have focus, delegate has12:52
TheBootrooso either put a focus: model.focus; on your delegate item12:53
TheBootrooand it won't be sufficient i'm afraid12:53
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TheBootrooeither use another logic12:53
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TheBootroogenerally we use item.forceActiveFocus () for that12:53
TheBootroobut must be executed on delegate, not on model btw12:54
TheBootroomodel is only for data12:54
Fryeok, I'll try to figure it out. Thanks.12:54
Fryeso I should say something like myListModel.get(index).forceActiveFocus ?12:56
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TheBootrooforge about model13:00
TheBootroomodel is non graphical stuff13:00
TheBootroofocus is ui stuff13:00
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TheBootrooyou need to programatically focus one field in delegate ?13:00
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TheBootroowhat i would do :13:01
TheBootroomyView.currentIndex : index_you_want_to_focus13:01
TheBootrooin you delegate:   property bool isCurrent : (model.index === myView.currentIndex);13:01
TheBootrooand then13:01
TheBootrooonIsCurrentChanged: { myEditField.forceActiveFocus (); }13:02
TheBootroo onIsCurrentChanged: { if (isCurrent) {  myEditField.forceActiveFocus ();  } }   indeed13:02
TheBootrooFrye: that should work13:03
TheBootrooso when you want to focus another item, just change currentIndex13:03
FryeIf I add a new item it is automstically set as current?13:03
TheBootrooand it's done13:03
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TheBootroonope i don't think so13:03
TheBootroobut easy to set manually after each adding13:03
TheBootroo(even if not necessarly good idea...)13:03
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FryeSo I have a menu item that appends to the list model. In theory at this point I have the index.13:06
FryeAs it's the number of entries - 1.13:06
FryeI need to do much more reading.13:07
FryeThanks for trying anyway :-)13:08
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cos-it's weird anyways we  have these issues.. normally i'd except the vkb to stay hidden until user taps on a text entry field13:18
cos-does the vkb on sdk work excactly as it does on device?13:18
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FryeFor my purposes yes, but thenagain I have no clue what I'm doing... :D13:19
FryeI'm just playing with this for fun every odd minute I can spare13:19
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TheBootroocos-: VKB only shows if you have a field with activeFocus: true which is perfectly normal13:28
cos-TheBootroo: but how can i get rid of it? all my TextEdits have focus: false.13:40
cos-activeFocus is read only so i can't change it.13:40
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cos-i figured out the svg support: i needed to add qt5-qtsvg-plugin-imageformat-svg as a requirement13:49
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tanghusWhat should I do to play a ringtone/alarm?14:07
MFaro-Tusinocall yourself tanghus or set an alarm for 1 minute time14:10
tanghusMFaro-Tusino: Very funny ;)14:11
tanghusFrom my app I mean14:12
MFaro-TusinoI was being serious :/ (I didn't know the context)14:12
MFaro-TusinoCan't just play the sound file?14:12
tanghusMust admit I have no idea how14:12
tanghusI was alos thingking if they have a "special" patch like image image://Theme...14:13
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Venemohey MFaro-Tusino :)14:19
MFaro-Tusinohey Venemo :) How are you?14:19
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HurrianSailors: do you guys support using QPST to backup and flash the phone?14:20
MFaro-Tusinotanghus: Worst case, you could always make your app run the command  xdg-open /file/to/open14:20
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VenemoMFaro-Tusino: I'm fine! things are going pretty okay since I quit that awful job14:21
tanghusMFaro-Tusino: that might work, but there has to be some better (i.e. standard) way14:21
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MFaro-Tusinothere would be - I am just too tired to think right now14:25
MFaro-TusinoMost likely using QMultimedia or similar14:25
MFaro-TusinoVenemo: Thats great! Have you got another position lined up already? Or will you just take some time off?14:25
tanghusYeah probably. I'll figure it out sooner or later :)14:25
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VenemoMFaro-Tusino: I'm focusing on university :)14:32
MFaro-TusinoEven better! What are you studying?14:32
MFaro-Tusino(I assume computer science?)14:33
Venemoelectronic engineering14:39
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MFaro-TusinoI did that first year of uni - then decided I preferred software14:42
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VenemoMFaro-Tusino: I actually like both, and am already pretty good at software :)14:45
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FireFlyhehe, I know what you mean..14:56
* FireFly can't decide if he likes messing with assembly or compsci more..14:58
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VenemoFireFly: :)15:02
cos-hm, looks like sailfish kills the qt main loop when application is closed by swiping. is there a workaround against it?15:06
sharpneliYou mean swipe from aboev?15:06
cos-harmattan did that15:06
sharpneliI think that's intended usage. It's the same as closing the app from the cover menu15:07
Stskeepsw00t: ^15:07
sharpneliSwipe from sideways just puts it in background.15:07
cos-i have to restart the main loop in my main() to do necessary thing after the app is closed15:07
cos-on harmattan that worked, but looks like it crashes on sailfish15:07
sharpneliDoesn't the app have some sort of shutdown function available?15:08
cos-that would be really bad usability, as users swipe from above to close an app15:08
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cos-there's some discussion about it here
cos-perhaps i could use an eventfilter to prevent the close event from happening15:13
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cos-ok, i managed to do the needful with QEvent::ApplicationDeactivate15:52
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cos-is it possible to get arm rpm's out of the sdk yet?15:56
cos-faq says "The SDK will support rpm package management. However, the alpha version does not fully support it."15:56
Gillycos-: yes, select the correct target and deploy15:57
Gillycos-: you have to deploy from the menu, however. the "Run"-button does not work15:57
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cos-where does it create the RPM=15:58
Gillycos-: RPMS inside your source dir15:59
cos-oh, yes.. thanks!15:59
Nicd-and you have to clean before doing it15:59
Gillyyou're welcome :)15:59
cos-hm, there are only i586 rpm's in RPMS16:02
Nicd-you have to clean first16:02
cos-i just did, and then deployed16:02
cos-18:05:16: Starting: "/home/cosmo/.config/SailfishAlpha2/mer-sdk-tools/MerSDK/SailfishOS-armv7hl/deploy" --pkcon16:05
cos-Fatal: deploy must have a valid --device16:05
TheBootroocos-: "Deploy ARM method" and not "Deploy as RPM"16:05
TheBootrooi know, that's weird, and many people got in the trap16:06
cos-yep, i have no clue what "Deploy ARM Method" means16:06
cos-let's try.16:06
GillyI should have stated that earlier, sorry :P16:07
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cos-they should dumb down the SDK a bit.. i'd prefer "Run in emulator", "Run on phone" and "Make a RPM for phone" :-)16:07
TheBootroocos-: +1000000016:07
cos-ok, got the rpm's16:09
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cos-if anyone wants to test with a real device:
cos-link updated to rpm16:21
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saildevi just can't figure this out all by myself.. if i have a qml webview and i have set a url for it.. if i reload the url it won't see any changes in my javascript file16:37
saildevi have a local html file and a local javascript file.. it works great when i test it on my computer but on qml webview it doesnt work.. it uses to property i have at first in my javascript file but if i change something in javascript it doesn't affect the webview16:38
saildevany ideas?16:38
fk_lxsaildev: hi, nice to see you here :-)16:39
saildevoh, hi filip :)16:40
saildevi assume you can help me? ;)16:40
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cos-ok my QEvent::ApplicationDeactivate hack works, but it is also triggered if user swipes the app to the background.16:42
cos-i think i'll need to as about this on
fk_lxsaildev: not really, haven't played with webview yet16:44
fk_lxsaildev: but if I knew something I would be very happy to help you16:44
radiofreesaildev: it's using some cache?16:44
locusfI have to make a feature which I probably can't, I have to focus my SilicaWebView to a login username on Evernote login page16:45
locusfwhich isn't even possible but QA rejects my app because of this16:45
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saildevfk_lx: i know you'd help.. :) thanks anyway16:46
saildevradiofree: no it shouldn't useany caches..16:46
saildevit loads stuff from a local javascript file which i modify from qml16:46
saildevbut it doesn't react when i reload the page16:46
saildevbut if i check with console.log it do changes the values inside javascript file16:47
saildevand i can see the webview reloads the current page16:47
radiofreemaybe you have to force it to reload the javascript as well?16:47
locusfkontio: can you contact Dorota Koczar about this?16:47
saildevdo you know how i'm able to do that?16:47
saildevbecause now i use <body onload="func()"> so basically it should reload the function as well, right?16:48
saildevlocusf: i've had some weird rejections as well.. but you'll find a way ;)16:48
locusfsaildev: thanks for the support :)16:48
kontiolocusf: what is the problem?16:48
locusfkontio: - After selecting "Login" the keyboard doesn't display , the user have to zoom in the login page then appears keyborad.16:48
radiofreesaildev: no sorry, i don't know how to do that, i'm guessing here16:49
locusfkontio: - If you press the icon of the application in the Launcher each time formed "Active cover" in the Launcher. The correct behavior is as if the second time opens the application by clicking the icon, then the application should open with the current "Active cover".16:49
radiofreekinda sounds like the html has reloaded but the js is in memory?16:49
saildevradiofree: oh.. well, i hope i'll find a way or this whole application is kinda blown up16:49
locusfI don't understand either of these reasons completely16:49
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saildevradiofree: yes, i think so too.. but just can't find a way to make it work16:50
kontiolocusf: ok I don't understand the reasons either... will check with her...16:50
locusfkontio: ok thanks :)16:51
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kontiodkoczar: iekku: form Freenode #sailfishos channel: [18:48:59] <locusf> kontio: - After selecting "Login" the keyboard doesn't display , the user have to zoom in the login page then appears keyborad. [18:49:10] <locusf> kontio: - If you press the icon of the application in the Launcher each time formed "Active cover" in the Launcher. The correct behavior is as if the second time opens the application by clicking the icon, then the application should16:52
kontioopen with the current "Active cover". [18:49:28] <locusf> I don't understand either of these reasons completely16:52
kontiosorry wrong window :-)16:52
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locusfI hate it that I have no ways to respond back16:56
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saildevone thing that i miss almost the most on harbour is a conversation between the dev and the guy who rejects the application16:57
saildevbecause if there is some part that you simply can not understand you can't ask more about it directly from him/her..16:57
iekkusorry guys16:58
iekkui have huge amount of tasks to do towards harbour, that's why i decided to work from home office to reduce amount of interrupts :P and get work done17:00
valdur55iekku: did it helped?17:00
locusfiekku: its alright, take care :)17:01
iekkuoops, forgot word "tomorrow"17:01
TheBootrooiekku: need real data for dl/review/like counter on dashboard17:01
iekkusaildev and locusf, have you sent mail about those issues to developer-care?17:02
locusfiekku: oh there is a developer care ?17:02
locusfso no :)17:02
locusfokay nice17:03
iekkuif i remember the address correctly :P17:03
iekkufrom Developers17:04
iekkuFor developer support, please contact us at developer-care@jolla.com17:04
saildevgreat, thanks iekku! :)17:04
locusfiekku: thanks for this :)17:04
iekkuif it's not too much asked, could you please send mail? as i have my to do list in mailbox :P17:04
saildevso you're taking an advantage from our issues? :D17:06
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iekkui assume i'm asking help from sailors, but yes, i'm taking operative lead on harbour17:08
iekkuif you ping me at irc, i most propably answer "i don't know, but i'll find out" :)17:09
iekkuemail is good way to contact, as i will also poll frequently asked questions and we will then update the harbour faq17:09
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iekkuTheBootroo, i will fw your wish for real data17:14
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saildevgood to hear :)17:20
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iekkuTheBootroo, and done :)17:22
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wickwireHi guys17:47
wickwireI've been messing around with the SailfishOS SDK for a while, using the emulator17:47
wickwireis there any way to have the SailfishOS running on a Galaxy Nexus device?17:47
wickwireI read somewhere online that it might happen,17:48
wickwiredoes anyone have any update on this?17:48
wickwireI've already had Ubuntu for Phone running on it17:48
fk_lxStskeeps: ^17:49
leinirthe word is "not yet" - but watch this space :)17:53
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FryeHmm, I have added some image files to my project (small png files) But for some reason those are not deployed. However those are listed on the .pro page.18:55
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FryeIs there something additional that needs to be done to get them included. Currently I'm deploying to emulator by copying binaries18:56
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tortoisedocI managed to get my rpm finally19:21
tortoisedocit appeared the filepath to my .so was absolute19:21
tortoisedoctherefore packaging failed (C:\.../usr/lib/qt5/import/... caused RPM packager to fail)19:22
tortoisedocI wonder if this is a win7 bug of qtcreator?19:22
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tortoisedocdoes QTCreator have support for rsync  on device?19:22
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energycsdxhi, i`m have followin error when using zypper19:37
energycsdxFile './non-oss/internal/armv7hl/libjollasignonuiservice-qt5-0.0.33-10.7.2.jolla.armv7hl.rpm' not found on medium ''19:37
onuratitried connecting to the site on your browser?19:38
onuratito me it is not accessible19:39
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energycsdxit returns 40419:39
energycsdxso this file is missing19:40
onuratii think the target is blocked, not just the file19:40
leinirin that case you might need to do zypper ref first19:41
tortoisedocthere we go with missing deps :/19:41
vgradewget -c $url19:42
tortoisedocerror: Failed dependencies:19:42
tortoisedoc is needed by testshare-0.1-1.armv7hl19:42
tortoisedoc is needed by testshare-0.1-1.armv7hl19:42
tortoisedoc         nemotransferengine-qt5 is needed by testshare-0.1-1.armv7hl19:42
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tortoisedocon device I have19:43
tortoisedocInstalled    libnemotransferengine-qt5-0.0.24-1.2.12.armv7hl19:43
tortoisedocshouldnt that cover the last one?19:44
tortoisedocif someone can help, please do :)19:46
jake9xxtortoisedoc: gimme a sec19:47
jake9xxnemo-transferengine-qt5 is the package you're after19:49
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tortoisedocalso all the qt5 declarative are missing20:25
tortoisedocthought device had qt5 by default..20:26
tortoisedocoh it is20:27
tortoisedocit seems to be 5.120:27
tortoisedocwhilst my plugin is linked to 5.020:27
jake9xxusually the packages in >target< are with -devel, thus providing compile and link support20:29
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tortoisedocjake9xx : in the sdk maintenance web page, do you happen to have twice the same entry for a single target as well?20:31
tortoisedocfor example qt5-declarative20:31
tortoisedocis listed twice20:31
tortoisedocwiht the same name20:31
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FryeAnyone here who could help me with the deployment to emulator phase20:55
tortoisedocFrye: what's the issue?20:55
FryeI have approx 10 png files that I'd need to include and both rpm and binary copy targets fail to upload those20:55
FryeThey should be included correctly in the yaml and .pro files but but20:56
FryeIt must be something obvious I just don't realise20:56
FryeEven generated spec file lists those.20:56
tortoisedocany errors in th elogs?20:56
FryeNot really. Only when the app is launching it complains that the images are missing20:56
tortoisedocand files are physically not on emulator?20:57
tortoisedoc(not visible from emulator that is)20:57
FryeYeah, files won't get into emulator20:57
Fryealthough qml files do20:57
FryeIt's propably something silly but I just don't seem to find an example how to add additional stuff to the project properly20:58
FryeI mean I added .js file and it works.20:58
FryeMaybe I should add the png files under qml folder?20:58
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tortoisedoccould be a fallback option21:00
FryeAnyway this is again an example I'm playing around with21:01
FryeTrying to implement the qt example samegame for jolla21:01
FryeHmm, I cleaned all and then run rebuild. And now I see this:21:01
FryeFile not found: /home/deploy/installroot/Users/samuli/Devel/Jolla/SameGame/shared/blueStone.png21:02
FryeFor all the png files21:02
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tortoisedoctry /Users/samuli... only21:05
FryeThat's how it is in .pro and .spec21:06
tortoisedocon win7, it adds output files with absolute paths to the yaml file21:06
FryeBut for some reason the path in error message is above21:06
tortoisedocalso in yaml21:06
FryeI'll check yaml21:06
FryeIt's /Users/samuli... also on yaml21:06
tortoisedocSailors : which package is libQt5Declarative in?21:07
tortoisedocis /home/deploy/installroot/Users/samuli/Devel/Jolla/SameGame/shared/blueStone.png the real location of your file?21:07
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tortoisedoc(on your host)?21:07
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FryeNo, it's the /Users/samuli...21:08
FryeSo this /home/deploy... comes from the build process somewhere21:08
jake9xxtortoisedoc: qt5-qtquick1-5.1.021:09
jake9xxtortoisedoc: qt5-qtquick1 even :)21:09
tortoisedocjake9xx : thanks; i found also a log of this irc channel with a similar discussion21:10
tortoisedocit seems to be related to my plugin linking towards qtquick1 vs qtquick 221:10
tortoisedocI think I know what I have to do then :)21:10
jake9xxtortoisedoc:  find / -name "libQt5Declarative*" 2>>/dev/null21:10
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tortoisedocjake9xx : on jolla device  no such file :(21:11
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tortoisedocbut reason for this is most likley the fact that plugin is made for QtQuick1 :P21:11
tortoisedoc(stupid me)21:11
jake9xxtortoisedoc: rpm -qf /usr/lib/libQt5Declarative.so21:11
jake9xxgood point actually21:12
jake9xxwonder where the qtquick1 comes from21:12
jake9xxw00t: ^21:12
specialwhy are you using qtquick1?21:12
tortoisedocspecial : because I am n00b :P21:13
tortoisedocharmattan n00b to be precise21:13
specialfair enough21:14
tortoisedocI see the error now :P21:14
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tortoisedocqtcreator is missing some defines21:14
tortoisedocfor qtquick2 support in qtquick1 projects21:15
tortoisedoc(for header files)21:15
tortoisedoc#include <QQmlExtensionPlugin>21:15
tortoisedoc#include <QDeclarativeExtensionPlugin>21:15
tortoisedoc(last one is QtQuick1)21:16
Fryetortoisedoc, adding the png's under qml folder work.21:16
tortoisedocFrye : awesome21:16
FryeSo at least I get around the issue21:16
FryeI'm not sure that is where I would like them to be but... :-)21:16
tortoisedocand the same applies to21:17
tortoisedoc#include <QQuickItem>21:17
tortoisedoc#include <QDeclarativeItem>21:17
tortoisedoc(last one QtQuick1)21:17
tortoisedocFrye: there is for sure an explanation for that particular problem21:18
tortoisedocbut my experteese ends here :)21:18
FryeAnd mine21:18
FryeBut for now I can get around it ant with these examples it's all that matters21:18
FryeWhat would be interesting to have is an example/tutorial about more complex project with more moving parts.21:19
FryeThe UI part is quite well covered already21:19
tortoisedocmoving parts? Is there a still part in this sailfishos project yet? :P21:21
FryeI also need to find time to debug exchange application with zimbra and after that I can switch to using jolla as my primary device21:22
FryeThe more I use it the more my iPhone seems broken.21:22
nanderIt's defective by design21:22
tortoisedocupgrade : iPhone +1 = jPhone :P21:22
Fryeyeah it is =)21:23
FryeBut the company uses it21:23
tortoisedocFrye did you install latest ios?21:23
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tortoisedocall the people who installed latest one complain21:23
FryeNot really21:23
FryeIt's first even remotely usable ios version21:23
tortoisedoc(the ones I know at least)21:23
FryeI mean max 8 tabs in a browser... seriously. And this was with the previous versions :D21:24
FryeI was happy with the ios 7 for approx 8-12 hours after I got my jolla21:24
tortoisedocjolla is very different experience21:25
tortoisedocin the beginning for me it was almost frustrating21:25
FryeIt's very nice. Ofcourse my N9 background helps21:25
tortoisedoctoo much happening with too little movements21:25
tortoisedocyeah I come from n921:25
FryeYeah, thats why I gave the ios 7 the 8-12 hous grace period.21:25
tortoisedocbut once I got used to it it hooked me21:25
FryeBut now I'm constantly double tapping and down swiping the iPhone21:26
Fryeand it drives me nuts21:26
EztranThat's promising. Think that's exactly what Jolla want :)21:26
FryeAlthough on the positive side I have found the ios notification screen now several times :D21:26
tortoisedocwhat, iphone users double-tapping their iphones? :P21:26
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EztranFrye: you're doing the exact opposite of what that Verge review did?21:26
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FryeI went through the review and simply cannot understand it.21:27
FryeI do agree the learning curve stuff21:27
FryeBut after that this J just flies21:27
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tortoisedocerror: can't create transaction lock on /var/lib/rpm/.rpm.lock (Permission denied) :D21:27
tortoisedocno dep errors with quick2 :P21:27
EztranWell, looked to me like someone getting a review out of the door before they've really learned the OS at all. However, I've never tried a Jolla yet, so I can't confirm that.21:28
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tortoisedocEztran : agree, they did not seem to spend more than 10 mins with the device21:28
FryeFor me it looked like they had very limited time with the device21:28
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tortoisedocfor me it took a night's turn21:28
FryeAnd say 4-6 hours one just does not necessarily learn it21:28
FryeAnd it will feel difficult.21:28
FryeFor 10-15 mins it's just not even worth the write really21:29
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EztranIf they really did spend that amount of time, the review's not worth the, uh, storage it's hosted on?21:29
Fryeyep, it's a shame the average reader does not understand it21:30
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FryeAnd then there can be people who just do not feel at home with the ui21:30
FryeI mean it is different.21:31
EztranWell, sure. That's fair enough. But it didn't look like he'd even tried with it.21:31
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FryeYeah I totally agree21:35
tortoisedocnice, plugin in place :)21:35
tortoisedocbut not listed yet :&/21:35
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onurativgrade: btw, thanks for the link.21:40
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FryeHmm, is there a way to use PullDown menu and still get coordinates from the screen like with mouse area.21:43
FryeNow that I added mousearea it masks the silicaflickable21:43
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specialFrye: meaning, you want screen coordinates in your MouseArea?21:48
Fryeor some other means figuring out where the pointer (finger) hit the screen21:48
FryeIt does not need to be necessarily mousearea21:48
FryeI'm just going through the silica documentation and have not yet found an alternative21:49
Fryeah Backgrounditem might be21:50
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FryeNope, that also masks the flickable21:51
specialmapToItem; something like onClicked: { var globalPos = mouseArea.mapToItem(null, mouse.x, mouse.y) }21:52
special'null' is view coordinates21:52
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Fryeah, Thanks, I'll try that21:53
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FryeOk, that works, but it masks also the press and hold behavior21:58
Fryeis there a possibility to catch press & hold in qml and call parents method?21:59
FryeThat's what I'm trying next21:59
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tortoisedocplugin not showing22:06
tortoisedochave qml right22:06
tortoisedocplugin right22:06
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tortoisedocinterfaces implemented22:06
tortoisedocbut notihn22:06
tortoisedocbut nothing yet :|22:06
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tortoisedocanyone can help with the following beast: Dec 04 23:55:46 localhost nemo-transfer-e[2914]: [W] TransferEnginePrivate::enabledPluginsCheck:229 - void TransferEnginePrivate::enabledPluginsCheck() "Unknown error"22:32
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tortoisedockthx :)22:32
stephgcryptic :)22:33
stephgtherefore also :(22:33
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tortoisedocfunny thing is that22:34
tortoisedocin nemo-transferengine master22:34
tortoisedocline 229 is } :D22:34
tortoisedocso i guess nemo-transferengine is not completely up-to-date maybe22:34
specialno, it's newer than your package22:34
tortoisedocspecial : I have it from git22:34
tortoisedocdated nov 23rd if im not wrong22:35
tortoisedocactually 21st :P22:35
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specialthere will be a tag on the repository matching the package version, if you're trying to match against SDK/device22:36
tortoisedocspecial : good point, ill take a look22:36
specialall of the nemo packages in sailfish are built *directly* from git.22:36
tortoisedocso this is my guy right?22:38
specialwell, no22:39
specialwhat're you looking for exactly?22:39
tortoisedoc*verifying version on device..*22:39
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tortoisedoc(stupid not to have done it already..)22:39
tortoisedocnemo-transferengine sources of version which is on device22:40
specialon device or in the SDK?22:40
tortoisedocInstalled    nemo-transferengine-qt5-0.0.24-1.2.12.armv7hl22:40
specialsounds about right22:40
tortoisedocmy master is 0.0.27 :P22:40
tortoisedocim too much in the future22:41
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tortoisedoc_who.24 is of two weeks ago22:42
tortoisedoc_whotwo *months22:42
tortoisedoc_who<-- needs to sleep22:42
stephggo to bed22:43
tortoisedoc_whostephg : cant yet22:44
tortoisedoc_whobut soon22:44
tortoisedoc_who        if (!interface) {             qWarning() << Q_FUNC_INFO << loader.errorString();         }22:45
tortoisedoc_whocrap :|22:45
tortoisedoc_whomy plugin fails in the interface22:45
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stephgwell I am22:50
stephgg'luck tortoisedoc_who, even if it's staring you in the face you won't see it if you're tired22:50
stephgbut I'm not your mother :)22:51
tortoisedoc_whothanks stephg, indeed you are right :P22:51
tortoisedoc_whoperhaps I should call it a night22:51
stephggo have a cigarette/coffee/beer/walk (delete as appropriate) and the solution may come anyway :)22:52
stephganyway is bed time, again, good luck and catch you in the morning22:53
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tortoisedoc_whono objdump22:54
tortoisedoc_whobut binutils is there :)22:55
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tortoisedoc_whoSYMBOL TABLE: no symbols22:56
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tortoisedoc_whohmm intresting23:15
tortoisedoc_whoso quick2 plugins are completely different from quick123:15
tortoisedoc_whoand they rely on Q_OBJECT metadata23:15
fk_lxanyone with device not sleeping?23:15
tortoisedoc_whonow I am :P23:18
tortoisedoc_whognight folks!23:18
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specialfk_lx: if it's something easy23:19
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