Tuesday, 2013-12-10

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AmbyR00so has anyone made a bitcoin client for jolla yet?00:13
MFaro-Tusinoi saw there was a bit coin prices app00:14
AmbyR00i tried the bitcoin spinner, but I can't read the qr-codes with it, because it's an android app and those look like they can't use the camera00:15
AmbyR00i guess that's the problem with all android bitcoin clients00:16
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tortoisedocwhy is my phone not taking my OBS credentials for developer updates??07:08
Stskeeps1.0.0.5 or
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tortoisedocStskeeps :
tortoisedocI must add tho, that I switched ssu to -r and changed flavour to devel07:10
tortoisedocbut still meh07:10
Stskeepsokay, if you touched those bits, you pretty much nuked your store ability or package installation bits.. :P07:10
tortoisedocXD excellent07:11
Stskeepsthe obs credentials aren't for developer updates, it's for a future early access thing07:11
tortoisedocdo I see a reset device coming up or just restoring to "normal" releases is ok?07:11
Stskeepswell, ssu domain sales; ssu flavour release at least07:11
tortoisedocthe "future early" combination sounds promising indeed07:12
Stskeepsif that doesn't work, then yes, you have to bite the bullet and restore to factory07:12
Stskeepsalso, upgrade to
tortoisedocnow lets see if this crappy win7 machine will connect..07:12
tortoisedocand I shall do a ssu ur as well correct?07:13
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Stskeepsnot afaik07:14
Stskeepsbut do a reboot after that07:14
tortoisedocdoes it nuke jolla or yandex store or both07:14
Stskeepswell, don't expect anything to work sanely07:15
Stskeepseither way, don't touch ssu or developer updates if you don't know what you're doing :P07:15
tortoisedocit's easy to say that now :P07:15
Stskeepshindsight is 20/2007:16
Stskeepsor what is it they say07:16
tortoisedocany quick explanation why this is happening?07:16
tortoisedocok installation from store fails07:16
Stskeepsit's a bug, it should first change SSU path when successfully authenticated07:16
Stskeepsit's fixed in 1.1007:16
tortoisedocif I would build ssu for 1.1007:17
tortoisedocand install?07:17
Stskeepstoo late for that :P07:17
tortoisedocmanual install with rpm?`:X07:17
Stskeepsyou'll need aard to sort you out; but if you need your device working fast, a factory reset is in order07:17
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Stskeepsas the basic fixes didn't work and i don't know what ssu settings you used07:17
tortoisedoccan I at least backup data first?07:18
tortoisedocssu switch to rnd07:18
tortoisedocand ssu devel flavour07:18
smokexyay I just took my first non-test sailfish N950 call07:20
Stskeepssmokex: sound's working? :P07:20
Stskeepstortoisedoc: ssu domain sales07:21
Stskeepsssu flavour release07:21
Stskeepsssu release
tortoisedocYour device is now in release mode! < :D07:23
tortoisedoctesti ng..07:25
MFaro-TusinoStskeeps: Could you tell me if the /etc/sailfish-release file provides the Manufacturer and Product name ?07:25
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MFaro-Tusinoby that I mean in Settings > About07:26
StskeepsMFaro-Tusino: that i don't know offhand07:26
tortoisedocInstallation succeeded :D07:27
tortoisedocthanks Stskeeps07:27
MFaro-TusinoThanks anyway Stskeeps07:28
MFaro-TusinoJust thought I'd polish a few things properly07:28
MFaro-TusinoMade the release name HYBRID instead of Lundjärrvi07:29
tortoisedochmm update to should show up in notification feed right?07:29
MFaro-Tusinoyou can force check it in07:29
MFaro-Tusinosettings > about07:29
Stskeepstortoisedoc: about product -> check for updates; but i don't trust that your setup is working correctly due to all the ssu messing07:29
tortoisedocStskeeps : there is one way to know07:29
tortoisedocUpdates : latest ;_;07:30
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tortoisedocI wonder if restoring my previous data checkpoint fixes the issue07:31
tortoisedoc(previous === done on the 27th)07:31
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Aardtortoisedoc: ssu domain sales; ssu re should fix it07:35
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tortoisedocAard : Changing domain from jolla to sales07:37
tortoisedocis this ok?07:37
tortoisedocChanging release from to
Aardpkcon refresh should now be able to refresh repos07:38
tortoisedocupdate available :)07:41
tortoisedocthanks Aard!07:41
tortoisedoc(and StsKeeps )07:42
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tortoisedochmm it says Version 1.0.1-10.11.10?07:43
raa70it's trying to communicate with you in binary07:44
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tortoisedocraa70 : yeh07:44
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MFaro-TusinoMine said 1.0.1-10.5.1007:53
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smokexo/ Venemo07:56
Venemomorning smokex :)07:56
smokexI just thought up the coolest name for the flashlight app07:57
smokexyou know there has to be a flashlight app07:57
MFaro-Tusinogreat name smokex07:58
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Venemosmokex: nice :)08:13
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Venemohey thp do you have a moment?08:22
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Venemow00t, thp: do you guys think you could add QtDocGallery 5.0 to the list of allowed imports?08:30
thpVenemo: w00t probably knows best about the status QtDocGallery08:35
Venemothp: I'm just saying because it's even used in one of the examples08:35
Venemoand without that import, I'm not sure how I could implement an image picker :)08:35
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thpVenemo: it's mostly about making sure the API is stable upstream08:47
Venemothp: I know, but I just want an image picker in my app08:48
Venemothp: it would be easier of course if there was a built-in image picker in silica or something08:48
chriadamI wonder if Sailfish.Pickers should be supported for store apps08:49
chriadamhey tachikoma.08:50
tachikomamh, still 'paid'08:50
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ln-where was the list of libraries that apps are allowed to link to? i've seen it but can't seem to find it again.08:52
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chriadamln-: on the sailfishdevel list, there were emails about it08:53
Venemoln-: here: https://harbour.jolla.com/faq08:54
ln-ah, there it was, thanks.08:54
Venemoman, this is awful, the RPM build system seems to be totally broken08:54
VenemoI wonder if anybody actually tested the SDK at all08:54
tachikomathey don;t use a build service?08:56
fk_lxthey don't use SDK? ;-)08:56
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VenemoI don't use a build service either08:57
fk_lxtachikoma: ever heard something about eating your dogfood08:57
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Venemojust want to build an rpm with this sdk08:57
tachikomai assumed that one puts the app with spec file somewhere and then it gets built and put in a dedicated staging area for testing08:57
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tachikomafk_lx: what does that have to do with how the rpm is built?08:58
fk_lxVenemo: if you want a valid RPM that will be accepted you need to change .pro file08:58
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Venemohere is the spec file: http://pastebin.com/VA8uie6n and here is the build output: http://pastebin.com/v0vcCJYi08:59
Venemonow what am I doing wrong?08:59
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fk_lxVenemo: as standard program built from standard project template in the SDK is not aligned with the Harbour requirements08:59
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Venemofk_lx: I don't use any project template from the SDK08:59
Venemobut this spec file used to work two months ago09:00
VenemoI just wanna know what's wrong with it09:00
smokexI wonder how much crap I just broke with this zypper up09:00
* smokex reboots09:01
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fk_lxVenemo: for example icon size is wrong ;-) and generated Makefile if you put CONFIG += libsailifishapp will make a Makefile you don't want to use, because it will contain wrong icon size09:01
VenemoI see but I don't use libsailfishapp09:02
fk_lxVenemo: and I think it's a real pity that standard app template doesn't go along with Harbour requirements09:02
Venemofk_lx: I agree but like I said I don't use that09:02
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fk_lxVenemo: ok, but I'm pointing that as sidenote09:02
smokexleast I still have a boot splash :D09:04
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smokexpacker ckbcomp09:07
Venemoso, who here has any idea on what I should put in the damn spec file?09:08
tachikomaI keep mine in the fridge ;)09:08
specialVenemo: your 'make install' is not installing a .desktop file, so one does not exist, which is expected because it's in %files.09:11
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Venemo_lbt: perhaps you could help? pretty please.09:17
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smokexnever mind.. found it and.. its a perl script09:28
tachikomamh, would be really really nice to get that phone soon ...09:29
artemmaVenemo: use Helloworld Pro template (and wizard too). Is guaranteed to pass through harbour requirements and gets you a proper project structure too (with tests subproject/subpackage) - https://github.com/amarchen/helloworld-pro-sailfish09:30
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Venemoartemma: I just want to know what's wrong with my spec file09:39
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artemmaVenemo: well, RPM build output is pretty clear: you build doesn't publish a .desktop file (or publishes it to the wrong place). Why? - I'd guess wrong or missing INSTALLS for .desktop in .pro09:42
jake9xxVenemo: if you just do a clean new 'hello sailors' does it fly?09:44
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Latexi95Why Yandex.Store wont start? It starts to load but then it just quits.  (N9)09:52
Stskeepsn9 isn't a supported device by jolla; and the alien runtime doesn't work on there09:52
tachikomaStskeeps: where i my phone *sadlook*09:54
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tachikomadoes it run sailfishos? ;)09:55
smokexI'm running sailfishos on an n950 right now09:56
smokexseveral people are running n9s09:56
smokexwe keep getting more things working every day09:56
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ko__hey guys09:56
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smokexStskeeps: something odd I've noticed: off screen swipes have the y axis inverted09:58
smokexall others are fine though09:58
Stskeepssmokex: sure, well, we didn't test that, n950/n9 is a community effort09:58
smokexyeah :D09:59
Latexi95Is there a list of features and bugs of Sailfish N9 port?10:02
tachikomahey TheBootroo :)10:02
tachikomamorning, and greetings to france :)10:03
TheBootrootachikoma: thx , hello to you to10:03
TheBootrootachikoma: this waiting is killing me10:03
TheBootrootachikoma: rly starting to piss me off10:03
tachikomawell, i did not even think of it the last 4days, was busy with real life10:04
tachikomajust had a look this morning and no change, but I'll survive that10:04
TheBootroopeople will really soon simply walk to DNA store and go out with their jolla, and faithful pre-orderers like us are still waiting for a simple little tracking number10:04
TheBootroo(i don't talk about the phone itself, a tracking number would make me happy)10:05
tachikomaI just relly hope i get it before christmasa as afterward I'll have no time to play with it and test my apps, then I'd have to wait until april till i can do something10:05
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Venemoartemma: but the .desktop is listed in the .spec file10:11
Venemoit seems to me that the problem is that not everything is correctly copied to the rpm build directory10:12
artemmaVenemo: .spec only puts into package whatever makefile generated during INSTALL <- whatever was specified in .pro INSTALLS10:12
artemmaapparently your .desktop file is not INSTALLS anywhere. Or installed to the wrong place10:13
artemmacheck helloworld pro .pro file10:13
artemmaor just ssh to your build machine and see if the file is put to correct place inside installroot10:13
Venemoartemma: here's my pro: https://github.com/Venemo/puzzle-master/blob/master/puzzle-master.pro10:13
Venemoartemma: line 162 is where the fun begins10:17
artemmaVenemo: well, you specify desktopfile.files multiple times. Are you sure the correct branch is actually executed?10:18
artemmaand the proper source file exist?10:19
Venemoartemma: yes, the message (building for sailfish) shows up in the console10:19
lbtVenemo: the install phase runs into /home/deploy/installroot/10:19
Venemohm, this is funny10:19
artemmaVenemo: what if it's overwrittern with unix:!symbian branch later?10:19
lbtso you can do : find /home/deploy/installroot/   to see what was installed ready for the spec/yaml to package10:19
* artemma has little idea on execution order10:19
artemmalbt: it's pretty clear .desktop file isn't going there, RPM build putput tells it10:20
lbtqmake, make, make install, rpmbuild-make-rpm10:20
artemmaso it's install step that fails10:20
artemmaexamining /home/deploy/installroot/ however may give you a hint (maybe wrong .desktop is exported)10:21
lbtis line 154 executed10:21
Venemowhen I replace $TARGET with harbour-puzzle-master it works10:21
Venemonow it shows up in the emulator and everything10:21
Venemohowever, the icon doesn't show up and single-instance launching doesn't work either10:21
Venemolbt: yes10:22
Venemoartemma: unix!symbian is _before_ packagesExist(sailfishapp)10:22
Venemoanyway, it seems that just $TARGET wasn't working10:22
Venemonow I have an RPM10:22
Venemothe icon file is in the RPM and yet the icon doesn't show up in the emulator10:23
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w00tVenemo: the current emulator is very out of date - hopefully jake9xx is going to fix that sometime soon :p10:24
Venemookay, would anyone be so kind to test this on a real device then?10:24
artemmaah, indeed, you were not specifying target anywhere :)10:24
w00tif you give me an ARM rpm, I can test it10:24
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Venemohow do I build an ARM RPM?10:31
Venemoseems that rpmbuild is a deploy step, not a build step10:31
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Venemoso how do I build an RPM without deploying?10:35
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lpotterright now deploy just builds a package and tells you where it is10:36
Venemoyes lpotter I see that, but how do I make it build a package without deploy?10:37
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TheBootrooVenemo: you ahve to use 'Deploy ARM method" target in QtC and not "Build ARM packages"10:39
fk_lxTheBootroo: that's exactly the thing that was confusing to me at first10:42
fk_lxTheBootroo: that if I want to build an ARM RPM I have to choose "Deploy ARM method" instead of "Build ARM packages"10:43
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VenemoTheBootroo: there's "Deploy as RPM Package", "Deploy By Copying Binaries" and "Deploy Method ARM"10:55
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VenemoTheBootroo: the run button is greyed out for all three of them10:59
Latexi95what's devel-su default password?10:59
TheBootrooVenemo: maybe you have not started MerSDK VM and SailFish Emulator VM10:59
VenemoTheBootroo: it says: alpha2 sdk does not support run configuration for arm packages10:59
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VenemoTheBootroo: Mer SDK VM is running, Sailfish emulator is not running11:00
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TheBootrooVenemo: you are using the wrong target11:01
TheBootroouse 'Deploy ARM method' and NOT 'Build ARM pacakges'11:01
TheBootroothen it won't show you the 'does not support run...' thing11:01
VenemoTheBootroo: I already told you there is no such option as "Deploy ARM Method"11:01
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TheBootrooVenemo: in the play button11:02
VenemoTheBootroo: there's "Deploy as RPM Package", "Deploy By Copying Binaries" and "Deploy Method ARM"11:02
locusflol @ wording11:02
VenemoTheBootroo: currently "Deploy Method ARM" is selected and the green button is greyed out11:02
TheBootrooVenemo: well don't be evil : Deploy Method ARM11:02
TheBootrooVenemo: maybe your VM is not configured correclty, go in QtC options, and try to check if SSH keys are generated and registered11:03
VenemoTheBootroo: the VM can build x86 packages, I don't see why it wouldn't be able to build ARM packages11:03
TheBootrooVenemo: well, me neither11:04
VenemoI'll try reinstalling the SDK11:06
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kaltsiVenemo: don't11:07
kaltsiVenemo: green button will stay grayed out11:07
kaltsideploy method arm does not provide a Run target.. the green button requires a run target11:07
Venemokaltsi: I already uninstalled it11:07
kaltsiok :)11:07
Venemokaltsi: so anyway, how do I make an ARM package?11:07
kaltsiselect deploy method arm and then from the Build menu select Deploy project "projectname"11:07
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VenemoI would never have guessed that11:08
kaltsinext update will support arm devices and you can have a green run button too :p11:08
locusfI already got my semigreen button with https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish_SDK_Hacks11:08
kaltsilocusf: that's unsupported and may break etc but yeah11:09
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Venemokaltsi: when's the next update due?11:10
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locusfhow could I create a cover which just reflects the apps content?11:12
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Nicd-kaltsi: Soon™? :)11:16
Venemoman, there should be a button entitled "send app to harbour". it shouldn't be as hard as it is now11:17
Venemoafter reinstalling, the Sailfish OS IDE says "no valid kits found"11:18
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Venemookay, I give up11:21
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MFaro-Tusinoanyone here know what files allow for dev-mode?12:10
MFaro-TusinoI get the installation of jolla-developer-mode failed12:10
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locusflbt: http://pastie.org/854195012:35
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vgradeMFaro-Tusino: working on it. Time is the key I feel12:38
vgradeMFaro-Tusino: time and date12:39
MFaro-Tusinomy time and date is correct though12:40
vgradefrom the kickstart image?12:40
locusfw00t: I got rejected for removing X-Nemo-Application-Type, but I migrated to sailfishapp so all good, I could use silica-qt5 for that12:41
w00tlocusf: hmm, what was the rejection message?12:42
vgradeMFaro-Tusino: just this image and no other tinkering? http://n9.araya.su/images/mic_images/sailfish-
MFaro-TusinoI had initially installed it over, but on my N950 its a clean install12:42
MFaro-TusinoOh actually, I did change something12:43
locusfw00t: http://pastie.org/854196112:43
MFaro-TusinoI used /etc shadow shadow- gshadow gshadow- passwd and passwd- from
w00tlocusf: thanks, i'll look into it12:43
vgradeMFaro-Tusino: right12:43
MFaro-Tusinoand etc/sailfish-release I modified to say that the build name was HYBRID12:43
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locusfw00t: ok thanks :)12:43
MFaro-Tusinonothing that would affect time though imo12:43
vgradeI'll re add developer packages to kickstart so they are there from the start12:45
lbtlocusf: did you qmake first12:45
locusflbt: no, I assumed that mb2 does that automagiccally12:45
MFaro-Tusinodoes dev packages add sudo and zipper vgrade?12:46
lbtlocusf: it can ... "mb2 build" makes rpms12:46
lbtbut qtc knows how to break things down12:46
lbtso mb2 qmake and mb2 make just do the one step12:47
locusflbt: okay built it and now deploys fine, thanks :)12:47
lbtmb2 deploy makes an rpm (since it's meant to be used after make)12:47
locusfI thought deploy was all-in-one :)12:47
lbtso the optimal steps (no repetition) are mb2 qmake, mb2 make, mb2 deploy (which is a lot like Qt I hope)12:48
vgradeMFaro-Tusino: we can add anyting we want from jolla repos12:48
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MFaro-Tusinovgrade: great! How can I help?12:53
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Hurrianvgrade: are gstreamer plugins for media playback included?13:08
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HurrianI have audio and haptics via ngfd, and I can thumbnail and index media, but media playback just doesn't happen.13:08
vgradeHurrian: http://pastie.org/8542006 is the packages list13:11
MFaro-Tusinomy N950 just died it seems :/13:13
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MFaro-Tusinoi plug usb in and led illuminates but does nothing, won't respond to holding power key13:14
HurrianMFaro-Tusino: try pulling the battery and running flasher -i?13:17
MFaro-TusinoHurrian: Its what i am trying atm13:18
Hurrianit's also possible that the LCD died, btw13:19
MFaro-TusinoI think it did Hurrian - because it seems ALT_OS has been mounted13:21
MFaro-TusinoI've had this N950 for a year, and I only took it out the box today13:21
Hurrianvgrade: gst plugins are there... and still getting no sound output... I think gst-dsp may be needed, hopefully not - how much CPU time does mp3 playback need anyway :P13:21
MFaro-TusinoShouldn't have given away my other13:21
HurrianMFaro-Tusino: ouch. It's going to be a beeyotch finding replacement screens...13:22
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MFaro-TusinoHurrian: Any idea where I ould get replacement?13:26
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HurrianThe N950club guys are looking for interfaceable screens to replace the really-easily-broken one.13:26
HurrianUnfortunately, you'll have to reglue the glass to the new display.13:27
HurrianIt's a LG panel or sth, iirc.13:27
tachikomaoh, n950 screens broke easily?13:27
Hurrianno wait, AU Optronics :P13:27
Hurriantachikoma: sometimes, without provocation.13:28
tachikomagood i did not get one, i really wanted one but missed the opportunity13:28
Hurrianthe problem isn't the glass, it is the panel.13:28
tachikomaWith my luck it would break within weeks ...13:28
MFaro-TusinoMy other N950 I had no issues for after nearly 2 years13:29
MFaro-TusinoGave it to my friend in India as a gift, thinking why do I need 213:29
leinirwant a fun one? the glass on my lenovo yoga 13 broke (screen works, touch surface isn't functioning any longer), and it's not covered by the warranty. So... looked for a replacement. GBP 599 (yup, five hundred and ninety nine English monies)13:31
Sfiet_Konstantinleinir: use it as a laptop ?13:32
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leinirSfiet_Konstantin: sure, that's what i'm doing... it /is/ still a nice laptop and all, but... yeah, it's supposed to be a touch device, and the whole convertible-ness thing isn't so useful if it's not got that13:32
Hurrianleinir: that's fun, manufacturers could keep shrinking the bezel and claiming "nope no warranty totally your fault"13:33
Hurriani've actually had a friend's MBP glass shattering because of thermal expansion.13:33
Hurrianapple warranty covers that though, but i've gotta imagine how much a PITA replacing that would be if you weren't covered13:33
MFaro-TusinoSuper weird! Flashing gave me the Nokia boot logo13:34
Yanielflashing what13:34
leinirthis one just couldn't handle being used... the new one's gorilla glass II (the yoga 2), so i can recommend getting that, it's still an incredible device, but... yeah, don't get the first version of it ;)13:34
HurrianMFaro-Tusino: not a failed LCD then :P13:34
leinir(or get it, and get their three year insurance policy ;) )13:34
Hurrianmaybe MTD bit-rot?13:34
MFaro-TusinoHurrian: I know! So weird!13:37
MFaro-TusinoI tried flashing PR 1.3 again Yaniel13:37
leiniroh yeah, best part of that part cost? a used, working yoga 13 off of eBay is currently available for GBP500+10 shipping... yup, for serious ;)13:37
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MFaro-TusinoHurrian: may be video driver related13:45
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MFaro-Tusinoseems I have a black strip on the screen now, removes first column of icons13:46
HurrianMFaro-Tusino: does it show up even on Nemo?13:46
MFaro-TusinoI'll ref lash harmattan and see if it is there still13:46
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MFaro-TusinoBME really needs to be fixed for the sailfish-n950 image13:48
MFaro-TusinoI have 1% according to flasher - device said charging for the last hour or so in sailfish13:49
MFaro-Tusinoping vgrade13:49
HurrianMFaro-Tusino: it worked when Sailfish used contextkit to display it, iirc there's some new layer for it13:49
MFaro-Tusinoyeah - I am thinking to create a QML app that has it on the active cover, temporary solution of course13:50
Hurriancontextkit-bme-rm581 (iirc?) is probably your culprit, as the contextkit plugin for signal status stil works13:52
MFaro-TusinoHas anyone reported getting the N9/50 Sailfish image to work with the sdk?13:53
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MFaro-TusinoIsn;t the N950 rm680?13:53
MFaro-Tusinoand N9 69613:53
Hurrianthat's the package name, it has contextkit somewhere in it13:53
MFaro-Tusino581 was columbus13:54
locusfhmm seems that my sql databases no longer work on my Jolla, any reason why this might happen, I'm using sqlite3 with QtSQL?13:54
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locusfDec 10 15:58:39 localhost harbour-bluewha[31742]: [D] DatabaseManager::DatabaseManager:19 -   "out of memory Error opening database"14:00
locusfhmm that explains it14:00
locusfreboot is probably in order14:00
locusfdidn't really help, any pointers on this, it is a database file in the /home/nemo so its not in memory QSQLITE14:03
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locusfseems that QSQLITE doesn't work that well with libsailfishapp, my previous program version works just fine with it14:14
locusfI have changed 0 lines of db code since the last version14:14
locusfand this is bluewhale we are talking about14:14
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w00tlocusf: i can't imagine how it would affect things - what's going wrong?14:16
locusfw00t: it can't open the database due to OOM14:17
w00tuhm. whaaat? :D14:17
locusfprevious version opens up just fine, even deleted the database file and tried again14:17
w00twhat exact error message?14:17
locusfI just pasted it above14:17
w00tis that the exact wording it uses?14:18
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w00tI was away, gimme a break ;)14:18
locusfsure ;)14:18
w00tlocusf: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-November/001140.html14:18
w00tthe thread suggests you're trying to create/open a database in a location you don't have permissions to14:19
locusfmight be exactly this14:19
locusfwill test in a moment14:20
locusfI just wonder why the old version works :p14:20
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locusfw00t: are those paths available via QDesktopServices?14:23
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w00tlocusf: QStandardPaths14:25
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locusfyes I meant that :)14:26
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locusfw00t: how can I create that path via .yaml file?14:37
locusfw00t: you were right, it was about the path14:37
locusfthere aren't many docs for specify :p14:42
locusflbt: do you remember any docs for the .yaml handling, I remember there was a wiki page?14:42
lbtit's not great - but 99% is passthru to spec14:43
locusflbt: how can I add non-root packages?14:44
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locusfnot packages, files :p14:45
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Venemonah, finally I was able to publish my app to harbour :)14:50
locusfstabbing .spec manually is fruitless14:50
Venemolocusf: what do you mean?14:50
locusfVenemo: I need to install my database files to ~/.config/<appname> but I can't figure out how to do it in packaging14:51
locusfI probably need code to do it, dirty but I guess its the only way14:51
Venemolocusf: why do you need those files at that location?14:51
locusfVenemo: so that QSQLITE driver works properly, otherwise I get OOM errors on database opening phase14:52
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lbtlocusf: defattr is default14:53
lbtyou want attr14:53
locusflbt: yes14:53
Venemolocusf: generally it's not a good practice to put something into a user directory from a package14:53
Venemolocusf: but I can suggest various alternatives14:54
lbteg Files:  \n - '%attr(644,nemo,nemo)%{datadir}/user-owned-file'14:54
locusfoh that should work?14:54
lbtyeah - it's pretty damned literal :)14:54
lbtthe only slight downside is that % is special to yaml so you need ' if you use macros14:55
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locusfwhoops emptied my .yaml14:55
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locusfand then git checkout .14:58
lbtif you're really stuck15:03
Venemolbt: I never quite understood, what's the purpose of a yaml?15:03
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lbtVenemo: spec is not parseable15:03
lbtyaml makes it predictable and simple for 99% of uses15:04
Venemolbt: umm, rpmbuild can parse the spec15:04
Venemolbt: so if I just have a spec, but not a yaml, what do I lose?15:04
lbtand perl can parse perl15:04
lbtit does not preclude massively complex spec/yaml combos or pure spec15:04
lbtbut it means that mere mortals don't need to care about spec insanity15:05
Venemolbt: ah, I see15:05
lbteg asking QtCreator to support and manage every possible complex spec file (on windows too) is ridiculous15:05
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lbtby handing off to yaml and spectacle we keep QtC dead simple15:06
Venemookay lbt I understand15:09
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Jonnipersonally I just use spec in my projects, I've never understood why complicate things by duplicating the date in yaml.15:12
Jonnidata even15:12
Jonnibut yes, maybe there are some who want to have data in multiple places.15:13
locusflbt: seems to have worked, thanks!15:14
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Jonnisome people even prefer using lisp, maybe we should make a triplicate way of storing the data :)15:15
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VenemoJonni :)15:17
Venemocan I ask someone here with a device to test my app?15:19
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Jonniif you post the rpm url, then most likely someone will test :)15:22
VenemoJonni: surely, here's the link:
VenemoJonni: if you have 5 minutes, I'd very much appreciate if you could take a look15:25
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* tbr gets file and gets ready to test15:32
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tbricon shows up and it starts, good :)15:33
tachikomawe came a long way since "compiles - lets ship it" ;)15:34
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Venemotbr: that's actually not trivial; the icon didn't show up in the emulator! P15:35
tbrVenemo: works well, solved a puzzle15:36
Venemotbr: can you add your own picture?15:36
tbrI had some minor pixels shimmering through at the seams of the puzzle pieces15:36
tbrthe chooser worked, let me actualy add one15:36
tbryep works15:36
fk_lxtbr: one of the default photos in puzzle master was taken by me, guess which one :-)15:36
Venemotbr: can you play with it?15:36
Venemotbr: even with a high-res pic taken with the device camera?15:37
tbrVenemo: yes15:37
JonniVenemo: works quite nicely15:38
Venemotbr: awesome! can you check the "get a hint" feature too?15:38
Venemotbr: also, does localization work?15:38
tbrbtw: the purple menu bar feels very non-native, more symbian-ish for some reason15:38
VenemoJonni: how does it perform?15:38
tbryes, hinting works15:38
Venemoit's pretty slow in the emulator15:38
tbrperformance is very good IMO15:39
Jonnior atleast very decent :=)15:39
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Venemothanks tbr & Jonni :)15:39
tbrnp, always happy to help15:40
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Venemocould you check if localization works?15:40
Venemothat's something that didn't work in the emulator15:40
tbrbtw: you sneaky bastard disabled guestures?15:40
tbrno swipes worked15:40
Venemotbr: only while you're playing and only because the gestures disrupt the game flow15:41
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tbrso it's intentional :)15:41
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Venemotbr: imagine when you try to drag a puzzle piece from the edge....15:41
tbrmight want to mention that, so QA doesn't get confused15:41
tbrVenemo: which languages should work?15:42
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Venemotbr: actually, a lot15:43
Venemotbr: here's the full list of translations: https://github.com/Venemo/puzzle-master/tree/master/translations15:43
Venemotbr: German, Polish, Finnish should work15:44
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Venemointerestingly in the emulator the system locale was always "C" :(15:44
* tbr reboots into german15:44
* fk_lx fk_lx did the Polish translation :-)15:46
tbryeah, works15:46
Venemotbr: awww, that's great :)15:46
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tbrfk_lx: might want to fix the name for 'about' in the in-game menu. in the main screen menu it's "o grze" in the other it's just "o", which looks weird15:48
Venemotbr: also, does single instance launching work?15:49
fk_lxtbr: I fixed it long time ago, but Timur uses old translation ;-)15:50
fk_lxtbr: it was fixed to "O grze"15:50
fk_lxjust when I saw it for the first time, where it is ;-)15:50
Venemotbr: when the app is already launched go back to home screen and launch again. it should switch to the already launched instance and NOT launch a new instance15:51
fk_lxtbr: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/puzzle-master/viewstrings/#pl/strings-for-v2_0/276056815:52
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tbrVenemo: yes15:52
Venemotbr: great!15:52
Venemotbr: thanks man, you helped a lot :)15:53
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Venemofk_lx: ah, I haven't updated it in a while, sorry15:53
Venemoit is really tricky because now that I have this many translations to worry about, I can't just go in and add new strings any time15:54
Venemonow the only thing I'd need to do is find Carol and ask her to take a look at the Chinese translation15:55
VenemoI'm not quite sure if I can trust the guy that translated it15:55
fk_lxanyway use the current Polish translation, it for sure much better ;-)15:55
Venemofk_lx: I'll update ASAP, but have a LOT of other things to do at the moment :(15:56
fk_lxVenemo: I can imagine15:56
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Venemofk_lx: I have two tests and a homework for this weekend and I would also like to complete the Firefox OS port, at least to a basic level15:57
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tbrhow will that work on firefox-os? shuffling DIV's around?15:58
Venemotbr: it's based on canvas15:59
tbrok, given that this doesn't tell me much, I guess I'm oficially out of sync with the currently en-vogue HTML...16:00
Yanielno webgl?16:00
YanielI'm a bit disappointed16:00
YanielOTOH that is somewhat canvas-based too afaik16:01
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VenemoWebGL doesn't work well of Firefox OS 1.1 yet. it's improved in 1.2 but the retail devices only have 1.116:02
Venemotbr: well, canvas is not new :) you basically put a <canvas> tag in your HTML and then you get a bunch of 2D rendering APIs16:02
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Venemotbr: I also had the idea to shuffle a bunch of DIVs around but decided against it.16:05
Venemotbr: it's cleaner for me to just handle all the rendering / positioning / transforms myself16:05
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Venemotbr: if I just used DIVs, a lot of things could go wrong, like some rouge html element affecting something or a space characted somewhere, etc16:10
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TheBootrooVenemo: you alos have Canvas 2D api in QML16:16
TheBootroothe same as in HTML516:16
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VenemoTheBootroo: in QML, I can implement it with the Qt Quick scene grap API16:17
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Venemoscene graph*16:17
Venemowhich is what I did :)16:17
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* w00t remembers Venemo porting it... :)16:20
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Venemow00t :) yeah, it was a remarkable experience16:23
Venemow00t: especially considering that it was mostly non-documented at the time16:24
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Bloobbeen playing with my jolla, and testing my app... and it's great so far, but I do miss wireless charging :P16:42
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tbrBloob: a few eur and dx.com and you have a wireless charging other half... ;)16:48
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Venemotbr: what about a... wireless charging + slide-out keyboard + bigger battery + solar charger other half?16:57
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faenilVenemo, 5cm thick? :D16:58
Venemofaenil: no, 0.1mm thick (thinner than the original other halves!)16:58
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faenillet's do it then!16:58
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Venemofaenil: we could carve "I'm the FIRSTESTEST one!" on its back17:08
faenilVenemo, more I'm the SLIMMESTEST17:08
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w00tI'm the fattest one17:13
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Venemotbr: btw, I'm thinking of silica-izing my app, but not yet sure how to translate it to the silica UI concepts17:23
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sledgesa bit of goodness: for Sailfish OS/Nemo porting to N9xx and others, please discuss in #nemomobile-porters , so this channel could stay nice for sdk+apps chatter (topic adjust please? :))18:23
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korhey guys19:25
korwhat to do when the first one ambience won't install?19:25
korit fails and when you try to click the notification, it says it can't be found in the store19:26
fk_lxkor: sell phone on ebay? and buy two new ones (joking)19:26
Nicd-kor: try try again19:26
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kortried it many times already19:28
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tbrkor: you have entered your jolla account details in the phone?19:30
korthat's the first thing you do?19:32
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tbrwell, the ambience comes from the store and if you haven't logged into your jolla account, then the store won't work19:33
kordude, when you set up the phone, you log in to the account19:35
korthere are apps from the store on the phone, so the store does work19:35
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Bloobhaving the same problem as kor19:44
Bloobkor did you put on the LE OH before starting phone as well?19:45
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tbrthat shouldn't matter19:47
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Bloobfor some reason I have heard "should" quite a few times when testing out software ;D19:49
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korBloob: yeah19:54
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tortoisedoc_no QWebPage in sailfishos device target?19:56
tortoisedoc_crap something tells me qwebpage is qwidget-based...19:59
tortoisedoc_email started not working anymore after update to
tortoisedoc_anyone else noticed the same?20:00
inffyworking fine here20:00
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tortoisedoc_in particular, exchange email20:01
tortoisedoc_(used to work before update)20:01
inffyi have 2 exchange update accounts20:03
inffyboth work20:03
phaerontortoisedoc_: try to update it from store20:04
tortoisedoc_phaeron : good idea20:04
tortoisedoc_seems authentication fails20:04
inffyjust noticed that there is a update for the Mail app20:04
tortoisedoc_inffy: hah the case D20:05
phaerontortoisedoc_: do you have a store account ?20:05
inffycase D? :)20:05
tortoisedoc_D = :D20:05
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tortoisedoc_phaeron : jolla store ? ues20:06
tortoisedoc_*yes damit20:06
tortoisedoc_what's the alternative for fetching web pages contents if qwebpage is not available20:07
phaerontortoisedoc: recreate the account ? maybe you entered the password wrong ? :)20:07
tortoisedoc_phaeron : no20:07
tortoisedoc_used to work until I updated to latest sailfih20:07
EztranAll the same, recreating the account might help considering Exchange support was one of the things in the update.20:08
tortoisedoc_Eztran : did that already, new account has same problem than old one20:09
tortoisedoc_(email client is latest)20:09
EztranFair enough.20:09
tortoisedoc_connection to mersdk failed : :D hah this seems to be all against me now20:09
tortoisedoc_lets see if a reboot helps20:10
tortoisedoc_after reboot, it seems i have *two* exchange accounts20:12
phaeroninteresting ..20:13
tortoisedoc_of the second one I cant edit the server properties...20:14
tortoisedoc_as in choosing the option results in nothing happening20:14
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tortoisedoc_removing both, rebooting and trying to add again20:15
phaerontortoisedoc_: were you able to auth to store and install the new stuff ? ( also did you accept the OS update ? )20:15
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tortoisedoc_and am now running
tortoisedoc_phareon : yes, thanks to Stskeep & Aard, I got rid of the SSU bug20:16
phaeronok. so now you get updates from store ?20:17
tortoisedoc_all apps up to latest20:17
phaeronok.. there was an update to email a few minutes ago I am sure you don't have that one :)20:18
tortoisedoc_hmm unfortunately I do :|20:19
tortoisedoc_just updated it20:19
phaeronah you didn't say that20:20
phaerongood. nothing else I can say now :)20:20
tortoisedoc_yeah, good for you :D20:21
tortoisedoc_but not for my email client20:21
tortoisedoc_ok time to get ssh out20:21
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tortoisedocit seems store does not accept share plugins yet21:00
tortoisedocthat the case?21:00
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piggzhow do i update to the new release?21:37
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Jonnipiggz: settings->about the device-> pulldownmenu to check new releases21:42
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Peter90somebody here?21:44
Peter90I have problem with Sailfish21:46
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piggzJonni: mine says up to date21:53
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sdjaynapiggz: what 'Sailfish OS' version does it say you have? sounds like you might have the latest..21:59
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AmbyR00do meego apps work on sailfish?22:01
smokexAmbyR00: they will with slight modification22:04
AmbyR00not straight from .deb files?22:04
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VDVsxAmbyR00, no sailfish uses .rpm22:06
VDVsxPeter90, just ask :)22:06
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AmbyR00hmm... how hard do you think would be to port software without a programming background?22:08
AmbyR00there are a couple of apps I think could do some porting22:08
AmbyR00fbreader being one22:08
AmbyR00my favourite by far :)22:09
AmbyR00the harmattan package is an old version so it'd definitely need a new look22:10
Peter90How Can I connect algorithm in C++ with qml?22:10
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Peter90I need write game in Sailfish OS22:12
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VDVsxPeter90, google is your friend, you can start here: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtqml/qtqml-cppintegration-topic.html22:14
Peter90it's not compile in Sailfish :(22:16
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Peter90 'QQmlEngine engine' has incomplete type and cannot be defined22:19
jake9xxPeter90: your type is missing in qml/js side22:20
Peter90How Can I fix it?22:21
jake9xxmost likely.. devil is in the details. You need to know the type of object X that is xferred from c++ side ; i.e. if you define your signal as "void fooSignal(int)" you cannot see the payload in QML ; you need to define it "void fooSignal(int data)" and then you can use <item-id>.data in QML22:22
Peter90in line  QQmlEngine engine; ??22:23
Peter90how define signal for this... ?22:24
jake9xxPeter90: what are you trying to do, for starters?22:24
jake9xxgot some source to share ?22:25
Peter90I need implement algorithm in c++ for qml file22:25
Peter90I need write minehunt in Sailfish OS22:26
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jake9xxhere's some example22:28
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ln-pastebin, what's that?22:29
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jake9xxif some crap came online, apologies, I'm not usually on this 'puter..22:29
Peter90where is the example?22:31
Peter90I see only numbers22:31
jake9xxI'm doing a pastie on it22:32
jake9xxwait a bit22:32
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jake9xxPeter90: there: http://pastie.org/854325722:36
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Peter90class with code in C++ in h or cpp file?22:42
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jake9xxwell it does not matter, I separate them22:44
jake9xxso class definition I put to .h file and implementation of class to .cpp22:44
AmbyR00it's funny. I've got no idea how to code, but I installed the SDK anyway22:44
Peter90Can I take all your c++ code to one file cpp?22:45
jake9xxAmbyR00: the basic 'hello sailors' app ( new->sailfish os.. ) is a good skeleton to use as basis and just put any qtquick2/qml stuff you find in internet and experiment there22:46
smokexPeter90: its better to keep them separated22:46
Peter90I can't22:46
jake9xxPeter90: compiler is happy but for readability issues it's better to separate them22:46
jake9xxPeter90: do you use QtCreator to code?22:46
smokexwhy can't you use .h and .cpp files22:47
smokexyou don't know how?22:47
Peter90I don't know which part is in cpp22:48
smokexyou define your functions in .h22:48
Peter90I know22:49
smokexyou implement the functions you defined in .cpp22:49
jake9xxPeter90: on your project view, rightclick on the main 'name' e.g' untitled1 and select add new, it opens a wizard ; select c++ and C++ class, it will create you needed files22:49
Peter90I know22:49
jake9xxand puts them to your .pro file22:49
Peter90but which part of your code take to h22:49
Peter90and which to cpp22:49
smokexyou need to read a book on learning c++22:50
Peter90I haven'time now :(22:51
Peter90haven't time22:51
jake9xxyou should... but basically you need:22:53
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jake9xx- c++ function propably in a .so22:53
jake9xx- qmldir to make it importable22:53
jake9xx- import that in your qml22:53
Peter90'Q_OBJECT' does not name a type22:54
jake9xx#include <QObject> ?22:54
fk_lxyou should look at http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtqml/qtqml-cppintegration-topic.html22:54
fk_lxthat is really helpful22:54
Peter90Can you fix code in pastebin with include etc?22:55
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smokexwe won't code for you.. but we'll help you learn how to do it yourself22:56
mikhasif you dont have time to study a good book about c++ then perhaps just go with QML + Javascript … or even Python22:56
mikhasdon't touch C++ if you cannot commit to it22:56
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jake9xxPeter90: agree with ^ guys. c++ and qml ain't trivial but once you take the time to learn it - it pays off23:00
jake9xxof course if you don't need file access & fast routines, qml+js is good combo to go23:00
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