Friday, 2013-12-13

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corcrashhey everyone :D01:07
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Nicd-so did we get an SDK update yet?08:54
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Bloobit's been bothering me for a while now, but why are CoverAction and EnterKey showing as missing components, am I missing an import or something?09:13
FryeHas someone figured out a proper way of showing current application state as screenshot on coverpage?09:16
FryeI can get it to work by making the app not find the cover page.09:16
FryeBut that's most likely not he way it's supposed to work :D09:16
w00tFrye: cover: undefined09:17
FryeSo that is the proper way. Kk09:17
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tanghuslukitusnäkymässä - anyone?09:50
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dcthangStskeeps: hi,  now you r active in this room? not mer09:52
Stskeepsdcthang: i'm active in mer too :P09:53
dcthangok, good to know :-)09:53
dcthangso basically it's the same or anything different?09:53
Stskeepssailfishos = mer + nemo middleware + sailfish os09:54
Stskeepser, saiflish ui09:54
Gillytanghus: that means 'in lock screen'09:54
tanghusthx Gilly :) Rreading a G-translated article :D09:54
GillyI see :)09:55
Pnuumosh has a update bug :-/ when changing between channels in irssi some of the text stays from the previous channel(s)09:55
dcthangok Stskeeps09:56
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WntSDK update going to be released today. Easy deployment to the device and correct icon sizes in project templates!
WntThat is great news. Now I have no more excuses to postpone my next projects10:22
MMoriWnt! YES! :) This is good news10:23
Pnuuthat means that my 4-ish weeks of winter holiday will include learning of qml and stuff..10:24
MMoriPnuu, that will be fun ^^10:24
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ponky_what's the status of sailfish whatsapp-app, me want!10:30
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dcthangcan N9 use this os>?10:33
Stskeepsdcthang: community has ported sailfish to n950-n910:34
dcthangok ok .....nice10:34
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* jussi is just waiting for it to appear on android devices10:38
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dcthangso now contribute to sailfishos means to mer/nemomobile ?10:39
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jussidcthang: always has, hasn't it?11:32
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Nicd-oh yes, sdk update <311:54
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TheBootrooNicd-: wut ?12:05
TheBootroois it out12:05
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kaltsinot yet.. in a couple of hours12:09
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Nicd-might skip some sleep tonight to finish my app :)12:12
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jake9xxfk_lx: sorry we did not bundle in a changelog for silica stuff. The workaroudn is to check changelogs from rpm (rpm -q --changelog sailfishsilica-qt5)12:22
jake9xxworkaround, even.. cannot type anymore :/12:22
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tachikomahrm - installed sailfishos sdk once again on my laptop, after upgrading the system, now qtcreator starts and I am able to launch the build vm. However, when trying to start the rmulator vm, i get this error: 'Could not get nedium attachment info' "0x80bb0001 (No storage device attached to device slot 0 on port 1 of controller 'SATA'"13:11
tachikomais that a known issue?13:11
kaltsiupgrading what?13:12
tachikomai upgraded from an older debian, which sailfishos sdk did not run on to now opensuse 12.313:13
tachikomaand installed sailfishos sdk from the 64 bit linux installer13:13
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tachikomadid not modify anything13:13
RiatecheHello. I've just installed Sailfish on my Nokia N9. Where should I report bugs?13:14
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Yanieldepends on what kind of bug13:14
Yanielalso, remember that N9 is not officially supported by jolla13:14
kaltsitachikoma: what's your installer filename again?13:14
Yanielbut nemo & mer bugs are ofc best reported on their respective bugtrackers13:15
tachikomathats waht i jsut downloaded and ran13:15
StskeepsRiateche: first ask your fellow nokia n9 sailfish community if it's a specific n9 bug13:15
Stskeepssailfish for n9 isn't a official product13:15
kaltsitachikoma: ok.. well, I don't know why you would get that error.. but wait 1 hour and a new installer will be out13:16
kaltsitachikoma: what is your virtualbox version there?13:16
RiatecheThere are many kind of bugs, e.g.: video is not playing, alarm clock shows incorrect time, jolla maps app is failed to install13:16
Yanielpretty vague13:16
RiatecheI suppose some of bugs are N9-dependent, but alarm clock bug is really strange13:16
tachikomakaltsi: 4.2.613:16
Stskeepsyeah, maps app and video etc13:17
Stskeepsis n913:17
tachikomakaltsi: i looked into the .vbox file, there is only one disk defined and its image is where the .vdi file has it configured13:17
jake9xxand clock is rtc13:17
tachikomalaso owned by the right user13:17
jake9xx= hw = n913:17
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tachikomabut I'm not an vbox expert, maybe ther is more needed13:17
kaltsitachikoma: one disk should be fine.. the vdi name should be "sailfishos.vdi"13:18
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locusfwasn't there a SDK update for today?13:19
RiatecheWhere can I find nokia n9 sailfish community?13:19
tachikomakaltsi: yes, it's like it was on my desktop, where all works fine13:20
tachikomasame os version, same everything13:20
tachikomajust on the laptop i now get this weird error13:20
locusfhmm odd, I can't see any updates via the tool13:20
tachikomabut yeah, will wait for the update then13:20
locusfoh 14:00 UTC13:20
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rpulkrabekI have just started setting up my phone today. I cannot download any mails via Microsoft Exchange. Mail accounts with IMAP are working. Is there a problem with Exchange?13:25
Yanielrpulkrabek: seems to work fine for me13:26
Yanielalthough I had to manually set the server address13:26
rpulkrabekI also manually entered all info13:26
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rpulkrabekMy account with Exchange has been authenticated, but it is not downloading anything. Neither mails nor calendar13:30
Yanielhave you rebooted the phone after installing exchange?13:31
rpulkrabekYes. I have tried that too.13:31
Yanielalso are you on wlan or cellular13:31
rpulkrabekI am stuck at a screen that says: Updating...13:31
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rpulkrabekI have used both wlan and cellular13:32
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crysazouh boy i love that "select network" prompt.13:34
crysazmy operator charges 2e/day, if something slips into to the mobile side13:34
zutto2euros per day?13:35
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rpulkrabekIf I delete the mail account, is there some cache that remains? Can I clear the cache and try to reinstall?13:36
crysazyeah. i didn't want to pay 5e/month for most basic dataplan for secondary phone13:36
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jake9xxok, now it's 14:00 UTC, SDK stuff has been uploaded, website is updated etc.. go and explore :)14:03
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locusfjake9xx: downloading, thanks for the effort :)14:04
Nicd-thanks jake9xx :)14:04
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tachikomamh, i now installed the latest sdk, but i still get the identical error for the emulation vm :(14:06
kaltsitachikoma: no errors during installation?14:08
tachikomanone at all14:08
tachikomait looks to me like something machine specific14:08
kaltsican you start the virtualbox gui manager..14:08
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tachikomai did that before even starting qtcreator and tried to launch the emulator, thats where i get the popup with the error14:09
kaltsithen if you go to settings / storage for the emulator14:09
kaltsiremove the sailfisos.vdi from the SATA controller.. and add it back again14:09
tachikomawhen triggering start from qtcreator, the error is printed on the shell i started qtcreator from14:09
tachikomathats the weird thing - i can't find any disk setting in the gui14:09
tachikomacpu, mem, network - all there14:10
kaltsioh.. I thought you could14:10
tachikomayes, thats why i started it14:10
kaltsican you make a screenshot of that?14:10
kaltsiI have quite a much newer virtualbox and have never used 4.2.614:10
jake9xxlocusf: we're here for you all :) hope you like it.14:11
tachikomakaltsi: i'll try upgrading it now14:12
tachikomawhat is strange is that the mer build vm does run without any issues14:13
kaltsiyes it is14:14
nanderError during installation process (org.merproject.mersdk):14:14
nanderExecution failed(Unexpected exit code: 1): "/usr/bin/VBoxManage createvm --name MerSDK --register --basefolder /home/nander/SailfishOS/mersdk"14:14
kaltsinander: have you installed virtualbox?14:15
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kaltsinander: could you run the installer with '-v' option.. it outputs a lot, maybe there's something useful there14:16
tachikomakaltsi: upgrading to 4.2.18 ow14:16
tachikomalatest that is packaged for 12.314:17
nanderIt's borked now14:17
kaltsitachikoma: ok.. I've used that version too14:17
nanderThe vm keeps restarting14:17
kaltsinander: uhh hm14:18
kaltsinander: which host linux/mac?14:18
kaltsiwhich linux14:19
nanderkubuntu 64 bit / latest14:19
kaltsiwhich virtualbox14:19
nanderVirtualbox gives errors on the HDD files14:20
nanderUUID's not matching14:20
kaltsidid you have an old installation?14:20
nanderI updated14:20
jake9xxif you open virtualbox ui (VirtualBox &) what do you see?14:21
tachikomakaltsi: i still get the error message but can now start the emulation vm14:21
kaltsitachikoma: I don't know what the error is.. but it doesn't sound good :p14:22
tachikomaand - i can't get my mousearow released from it - wasn;t that "alt+ctrl"?14:22
kaltsiright ctrl by default in linux14:22
tachikomakaltsi: yeah, well for now I'll try the tutorial project to see if everythin else works and then would look into the disk problem when i have some time14:22
nanderA warning about one or more virtual harddisks not being accessible14:23
tachikomakaltsi: thx, i kept hitting the left ctrl :)14:23
kaltsinander: did you shut down both the old virtual machines before updating?14:23
kaltsinander: if sdk uninstall works for you, I recommend doing that and then reinstalling with a newly downloaded 1312 installer14:24
tachikomanander: by any chance an error like this: ?14:24
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tachikomaok, i can start the emultor manually with virtual box, but not from within the sdk, and when started manuall - it is not detected as running by the sdk.14:29
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kaltsieven if you click on the sdk emulator icon?14:30
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coderushello there!14:30
jake9xxcoderus: hello!14:31
coderusupdate happened? please help, i want to finish my project :D14:31
tachikomayes, thats just triggering a whole lot of errors now in the shell i started qtcreator in14:31
tachikomajust a sec14:31
coderusFile './mw/armv7hl/cor-0.1.10-1.8.1.armv7hl.rpm' not found on medium '''14:31
coderusand so on :D14:31
jake9xxcoderus: update repos14:31
coderusjake9xx: sure, which addresses?14:32
jake9xxcoderus: ok, we might need to tweak your sdk a bit , this is a special case14:32
kaltsicoderus: did you install the new sdk or are you trying to stick to 1310 still?14:33
coderuskaltsi: still on 131014:34
coderusi can updgare right now14:34
coderusi need to finish my project14:34
kaltsiI recommend a total reinstall14:34
kaltsiso uninstall and download new + install14:34
coderusi have no bandwidth for that :)14:34
coderuskaltsi: i'm not using qtcreator, only mer build target14:35
coderusso i can live after manually updating repos14:35
tachikomakaltsi: thats what i get when hitting the "launch emulator vm" in qtcreator:
coderustachikoma: you maybe have manually launched VM14:36
kaltsicoderus: try running sdk-manage --refresh-all as mersdk14:36
kaltsicoderus: but can't guarantee you can build your project with the old sdk.. this is not tested14:37
coderusBkathanks, i'll try14:37
tachikomacoderus: no, no vm is running at all14:38
coderuskaltsi: how can i manually login totarget and install packages for arm?14:38
tachikomaalso i can launch the build vm14:38
tachikomafrom qtcreator14:38
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kaltsicoderus: sb2 -t Targetname -R -m sdk-install => then zypper in package14:39
tachikomaI'll try as new user, just to be sure14:39
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kaltsitachikoma: when you create the new user, could you open the virtualbox manager before installing the sdk.. and check that it doesn't see any virtual machines14:42
tachikomakaltsi: i did that with the previous installation already, just to make sure virtualbox itself is working, and tehre was none, but I'll do that again of course14:43
coderuskaltsi: # zypper ref14:43
coderusRepository 'jolla' is up to date.14:43
coderusFile '/repodata/repomd.xml' not found on medium ''14:43
kaltsicoderus: yep.. the repository structure has changed14:43
coderuskaltsi: give please new ssu lr output14:44
kaltsicoderus: you can probably manage with those right? if you start getting strange failures.. it's time to update :)14:48
sharpnelikaltsi: When did it change?14:48
kaltsisharpneli: today 14:00 UTC with the new sdk release14:49
coderuskaltsi: updating repos now14:49
sharpneliDamnit. Time to reinstall it then.14:49
coderuskaltsi: all fine, thanks :)14:51
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Pnuuzuh: damn, man, you "stole" my holiday project :-D14:57
kaltsicoderus: good!14:58
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nanderThe SDK doesn't want to do a fresh install15:22
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kaltsinander: what does it say?15:41
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nanderAlready installed15:42
kaltsiok.. how about the uninstaller15:42
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kaltsiwell the easiest way to uninstall is: rm -rf ~/SailfishOS  if you installed there?15:43
kaltsithen additionally: rm -rf ~/.config/SailfishAlpha315:43
kaltsithen try running the installer again15:44
kaltsinander: if you are in linux/mac15:44
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Pnuuit seems that my eeepc won't be the best dev platform :-D17:04
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leinirPnuu: what do you mean, running two VMs on that won't work? Don't be silly, there's /plenty/ of memory for that! And it'll be a breeze on that atom processor ;)17:17
Pnuubut hell, this is what I have until I get back from the holiday17:18
leinirwell, you can always work on the logic and whatnot, and sort the UI when you're back :)17:19
Pnuuand try to understand qml basics17:20
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leinir*nods* :)17:20
Pnuuand come up with an idea what to try to do..17:21
leinirforemost of which, i'd say, if you're already familiar with Qt, would be property binding and anchors :)17:21
leinir(as those are sort of in the "unlearn" category from prior Qt experience ;) )17:21
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Pnuuhah, never even tried to do any gui stuff17:21
Pnuujust some simple python and c17:22
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leiniraah, well in that case, you're in for quite a journey :)17:22
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PnuuI guess lifevests are a must..17:23
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tanghusIs it so that you can't have a js variable in qml with a reference to a function?17:27
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deadbothi there, i just got my new jolla, i wanted to take a look at my app in the store, but it's not there! what did i miss?18:10
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Pnuutry if search finds it?18:12
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tbrdeadbot: when was your app approved?18:16
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zuhPnuu: Deeply sorry about stealing your idea :D18:17
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deadbotsome weeks ago tbr18:19
deadbot2 or 318:19
tbrdeadbot: name of the app?18:19
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tbrdeadbot: are you sure it was approved? does it show in harbour as approved?18:21
Jonnimaybe you havent renamed it to harbour-ohm, as applications that were approved before the namechange got rejected again18:22
deadbottbr, yes it was apporveroved18:23
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deadboti just checked it again18:26
deadbotit also says "PUBLISHED"18:26
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deadbotbut i also can't find it with the search function in the store18:27
deadbotand: i have named it with the harbour prefix18:27
deadbototherwise it wouldn't have been approved, right?18:27
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Pnuuzuh: :-D18:29
Pnuuzuh: I just thought about it today, so fair game ;-)18:29
deadbotany ideas? or anyone responsible for the store here?18:32
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yuntadeadbot: we passed that on to harbour people, but it's friday evening... so, keep complaining tomorrow/next-week so that we won't forget about you.18:45
deadbotok, thanks yunta18:46
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yuntadeadbot: fortunately, store people have no life! It seems that " package name was harbour-ohm-1.0.0-r1.rpm, doesn't comply with "18:52
yuntadeadbot: we're going to track down the communication problem that left you waiting, and kick him (or her) in the balls (if possible)18:53
sdjayna1yunta: oi!18:54
yuntasdjayna1: hoping it's not you?18:54
sdjayna1i'm going out later to see real people i promise18:54
yuntapeople on irc *are* real people! mostly :P18:54
deadbotthanks yunta!18:57
deadbotwhats wrong with the name?18:57
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deadbotah! the architecture18:58
deadbotthanks again18:58
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Nicd-my SDK update is stuck at "Installing component Mer VM and targets"19:34
Nicd-oh, the whole OS is stuck19:34
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Nicd-and now it's broken19:38
Nicd-guess I have to reinstall19:39
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piggzis there any qmake directives for sailfish?19:44
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mike7b4_on_x230anyone remember where I could buy that Jolla cap?19:59
mike7b4_on_x230answer myself:
Nicd-"deployment finished successfully" :)20:03
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Nicd-what deployment method do I choose if I want to deploy on my phone?20:05
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piggzNicd-: deploy for arm20:06
Nicd-yeah, but there's "as rpm package" "by building an rpm package" "copying binaries"20:06
Nicd-copying binaries seems to work20:07
Peter90Why when I try use setMainQmlFile("qml/main.qml") I have error file:///home/nemo/qml/main.qml: File not found ? I'm trying change path but always the same. What is "nemo" ?20:08
Nicd-nemo is the default user on the phone20:08
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Peter90is it path to file on the emulator?20:10
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Peter90How use setMainQml in Sailfish?20:13
Nicd-hmm, when I deploy to my phone, the screen is just plain white20:28
Nicd-I guess it doesn't copy all files?20:28
lbtNicd-: try running the app from an ssh session - you'll be gettng some QML errors20:30
lbthappens to me a lot :/20:30
lbtNicd-: did you need to reinstall SDK?20:31
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Nicd-well now I'm getting some compile errors out of nowhere20:34
Nicd-so guess I have to deal with them first20:34
lbtthe ml seems to have that too20:35
Nicd-IT WORKS!20:37
Nicd-some files were missing from my pro file20:38
Nicd-it runs on my phone! <320:38
fk_lxupss it was to be supposed tbr20:39
fk_lxb and h to close on keyboard20:39
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fk_lxtbr: writing on priv, so you can ignore20:43
* tbr meanwhile gets ready to reinstall the SDK after it self destructed on disk full20:43
Nicd-my app works <320:52
StskeepsNicd-: yay20:52
teveI had a dns problem couple20:54
teveI had a dns problem and tested with phone also. I'd to kill sailfish-browser process untill I could start a browser again after resolver problem20:58
fk_lxwhat is recommended when it comes to SDK - upgrade or clean install of new version?20:59
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Pnuufk_lx: clean install seems to be the way what I've read here21:01
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fk_lxPnuu: thanks, can someone else confirm or deny that?21:02
Pnuu - "Remove the old Alpha then get started with the SDK." ;-)21:03
fk_lxPnuu: ok :-)21:05
Nicd-umm, I think the latest versions should update fine21:05
fk_lxNicd-: oh, well, already deleted ;-)21:06
Nicd-jolla employees or someone else in the know, will my app be rejected if it has console.log() calls?21:08
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nanderSailfishOS Alpha SDK claims I have a copy still installed, but I removed it21:08
lbtNicd-: it's not a good idea but I don't think it's a reject reason21:09
nanderDoes the sailfish SDK have SDL included by default?21:09
Nicd-does QML have something like QDebug, where if I build in release mode they are removed?21:09
lbtNicd-: I haven't seen one21:10
lbtI'm really new to QML though21:10
fk_lxNicd-: it won't be rejected, in my app that is in store I forgot to remove console.log() I used for some debugging ;-)21:10
Nicd-guess I'll comment them out21:10
lbtgiven how js works though I think the closest would be to define your own debug object and make it either a Debug or Null instance21:11
fk_lxNicd-: now apps writes "Buuuuu!" if you would look at the console ;-)21:12
nanderSDL/SDL.h: No such file or directory21:13
piggzNicd-: do it by building rpm .. then copy the rpm over21:13
Nicd-piggz: I already got it working with "by copying binaries"21:13
nanderProblem: nothing provides needed by mesa-x86-generic-libGLESv2-8.0.1-1.7.Nemo.i48621:17
nanderWhen doing zypper in fingerterm on the vm21:18
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ajalkaneTried updating SDK, got:21:52
ajalkaneError during installation process (org.merproject.mersdk):21:52
ajalkaneExecution failed(Unexpected exit code: 1): "/usr/bin/VBoxManage createvm --name MerSDK --register --basefolder /blabla/my/sailfish/mersdk21:52
ajalkaneAm I better off removing old installation and doing fresh install?21:53
kaltsiajalkane: yes try that.. what host environment do you have?21:53
ajalkanekaltsi: Ubuntu 12.0421:53
kaltsiwhich virtualbox version?21:54
nanderSame error I got21:54
kaltsiI also use ubu 12.04 (64 bit) and have done all testing with it.. :(21:54
ajalkanejake9xx: 4,2,621:54
nanderRemove install folder, vm's, stuff in .scratchbox221:54
ajalkane^ meant for kaltsi21:54
nanderAnd then reinstall21:54
nanderThat's what worked for me21:55
ajalkaneI'm using 32-bit Ubuntu, but probably makes no difference21:55
kaltsiajalkane: I've updated vbox to 4.3 and latest 4.2 is 4.2.1821:55
nanderremove install folder with the deinstaller21:55
ajalkanenander: okay I guess I'll do that21:55
kaltsinander: did you also have vbox 4.2.6?21:55
kaltsiajalkane: did it print out the whole command that fails?21:56
kaltsiif you were to run that command from the terminal maybe there would be some interesting output21:56
nanderImma take a look21:57
ajalkaneI also tried to remove from VBManager the old Sailfish and did Retry for the error, but did not help21:58
ajalkanekaltsi: I pasted the full error that the SDK installer gave21:59
nanderYou need to remove the things from VB AND remove the target folders from ~/.scratchbox221:59
ajalkanenander: would update from SDK work if I did that or should I remove whole SDK and reinstall?22:00
kaltsiajalkane: also remove ~/.config/SailfishAlpha3 if it exists22:00
kaltsiremove the whole sdk22:00
nanderI had to deinstall and reinstall22:00
nanderYou don't have to remove your projects22:00
ajalkaneOk thanks, I'm going to download the new SDK.22:00
nanderIt's not just a fresh install, you need to explicitly remove your previous install22:01
ottuloanyone installed deb files on device?22:01
ottuloI'm missing the correct command to install and it won't install directly from the transfers22:01
kaltsiottulo: it's not natively supported.. the device is rpm based22:01
kaltsiif you mean deb as in debian22:02
ottulokaltsi: well, there's an app supposedly for Sailfish but available only as deb22:02
ottulounless I really missed something22:02
ajalkaneMayhaps it's in app that's available for N9 and Sailfish and you've accidentally gotten the N9 version22:03
ottuloajalkane: well, there was no link for it on the page under "Sailfish", but on the app details page it says it's for Sailfish22:03
kaltsiscreenshots are from n922:04
ottulo"A nice looking Bitcoin Client for MeeGo, SailfishOS, NemoMobile, and Harmattan."22:05
kaltsiscroll until you find the sailfish packages there22:05
ottuloon that^ page it doesn't have it under sailfish22:05
ottulohas only versions of ownnotes22:05
kaltsiyep.. so no sailfish version22:05
ajalkaneottulo: I can only deduce that he doesn't have yet sailfish version22:06
nanderHe is probably still waiting for his device22:06
ottuloodd that he'd say it's for sailfish while it's nowhere to be found22:06
kaltsimaybe it is on its way22:06
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ottulothere was a thread on where he was advertising it22:09
ottulotrying to find it atm22:10
ottuloall right, only says n9/50 there, so I guess I misread something at some point22:11
kaltsibtw is there anyone here who has installed the 1312 sdk and didn't have any problems with it? :)22:19
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ajalkaneI wager those that were not foolish enough to install the previous version :)22:20
kaltsiwe should have put Friday the 13th to the known issues ...22:21
raa70luckily not my phone22:25
ottulolooks like trouble22:26
raa70"installed update, couple hours later, accounts and some contacts went missing, reboot brought to the images situation"22:30
ln-well, landscape mode has been on many people's wishlist...22:33
ajalkaneEmulator has libqmsystem2, does Harbour allow apps that use that library?22:33
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ajalkaneIe. I'm talking about the MeeGo::Qm* APIs22:36
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FryeOi, I heard rumors today about a new sdk!23:26
ottulohum... seems like the back and home buttons for Android apps do not work at all now23:26
ottulothey did earlier, though23:27
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