Saturday, 2013-12-14

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FryeNew sdk <300:05
FryeNow some sleep.00:05
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AcceWhere can I find information on porting from N9 to sailfish? It's a plugin to the maliit, which is used in sailfish too I think00:14
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cybetteAcce: maybe you can find some useful info
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Accecybette: Thanks! ^^00:34
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tanghusUpdating to newest SDK. Now lets see if it works :)05:12
ArlessHI, do you know if there is a bug related to console.log() in the newest sdk? I don't have any output even with the sample project.05:16
tanghus:-1: error: Package sailfishapp not found, Hmm05:18
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FryeFor some reason I cannot generate a rpm form my packag with the new sdk05:27
FryeIt launches fine inside device with the copy binaries option05:27
Fryebut rpm complains about missing icon file05:27
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tanghusNew project works, but now I get "/home/tol/harbour-kitchentimer/src/harbour-kitchentimer.cpp:35: error: sailfishapp.h: No such file or directory"05:46
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tanghusmake: /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qmake: Command not found06:06
tanghusMaybe I should read the release docs06:06
ArlessI get "GDB will be unable to debug shared library initializers and track explicitly loaded dynamic code.Could not load shared library symbols for 47 libraries, e.g. /usr/lib/ Use the "info sharedlibrary" command to see the complete listing. Do you need "set solib-search-path" or "set sysroot"?"06:09
Arlesswhen tryin to debug06:09
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tortoisedoc_j0 sailors08:28
tortoisedoc_just installed new alpha of sdk08:29
tortoisedoc_am currently struggling with missing .debug files08:29
tortoisedoc_(which are added to rpm but not generated)08:29
tortoisedoc_I added CONFIG+=debug in the project08:29
tortoisedoc_but meh08:29
tortoisedoc_what am I missing??08:29
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tortoisedoc_ah also08:30
tortoisedoc_a bug report on yaml editor08:30
tortoisedoc_the only way to add non-files entry to the "files" section is to first add a file from the local disk, then edit the entry08:31
tortoisedoc_it would be awesome to have  a right-click->new entry menu which would just add a blank entry;08:31
tortoisedoc_files could still be added then through the button08:31
Fryeinstall -m 755 -p /home/mersdk/Devel/Jolla/SameGame/SameGame.png /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/08:31
FryeI'm having hard tim trying to figure out why 86x86 in the path08:32
Fryethe icon is 90x90 and it worked on previous SDK08:32
tortoisedoc_Frye : do you have CONFIG+=sailfishapp?08:32
FryeNow rpm generation fails because the icon file is missing08:32
tortoisedoc_Frye : now icons are supposed to be 86x86 to my knowledge08:32
Fryeyeah I have that08:33
tortoisedoc_see here for info on CONFIG+=sailfishapp08:34
tortoisedoc_a bit obscure, but makes sense I guess08:34
FryeThanks, I'll take a look at that08:34
FryeOk, that is where the 86xx86 comes08:36
tortoisedoc_Frye : yes, and alot of other stuff well hidden :P08:36
FryeIs this a new chapter in the doc? I could swear that I went through it several times and did not see this information.08:37
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FryeYes, now it works08:38
FryeI just changed the references on the yaml form 90x90 to 86x8608:39
tortoisedoc_lucky you08:39
tortoisedoc_im still fighting with my missing debug files :(08:39
FryeHmm, I got the debuginfo rpms generated08:40
FryeBut I don't have a clue are they ok or not :D08:40
tortoisedoc_ok now it works08:42
tortoisedoc_was missing the default entries08:43
tortoisedoc_interesting question08:43
tortoisedoc_if I want to use sailfishapp without CONFIG+=sailfishapp08:43
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tortoisedoc_(meaning just with SailfishApp:: naming space but not all the files)08:44
tortoisedoc_in this case, this template is not very usefull08:45
tortoisedoc_it would be great to have some more flexibility08:45
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Fryeglad you have it too08:47
tortoisedoc_ericc : perhaps more of a temporary version of something that is still evolving08:48
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ericcmaybe .it will be good.later version08:51
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FryeHmm, for some reason I lost all my console.debugs09:07
FryeNo running application output is shown on IDE when app is running in the emulator09:08
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c-arieswhere can i download the latest sailfish image?10:22
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Fryec-aries, SDK is here:
FryeBut as in Image running on a device there is none available atm.10:27
Bysmyyr"could not connect to Sailfishos emulator virtual machine" any ideas?10:30
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AnttiETervehdys, Sain jollan puhelimen näytön kääntymään 90 astetta suhteessa puhelimeen, nyt en saa tehdasasetuksia palautettua, koska ruudun alareuna on puhelimen ulkopuolella. Ajattelin kysyä jos joku voisi auttaa minua koodaamaan esim softan pätkän joka resettaa luurin tai vastaavan kikan.10:35
Bysmyyrone button missed... now it works :)10:35
StskeepsAnttiE: sorry, english pleasE?10:36
AnttiECould someone help me to factory reset my phone with very limited screen acces10:36
StskeepsAnttiE: do you have fingerterm installed by chance?10:36
AnttiEnot yet10:37
Stskeepsokay, can you try to see if you can enable developer mode?10:37
Stskeepsi'm very interested in how you got into that mode, so10:37
AnttiEI tried, but the developer mode is in the lower end of the settings app10:37
AnttiEwhich isn't possible to reach, because it is outside the phone :)10:38
StskeepsAnttiE: are you based in helsinki by chance?10:38
AnttiEKeuruu :(10:38
AnttiE3 hours to helsinki10:38
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fk_lxthat's far10:38
HartziAnttiE: I'm also from keuruu D:10:39
Stskeepsand the guy we have in jyvaskyla is up north currently.. hmm10:39
AnttiEcan you fix my phone :)10:39
fk_lxAnttiE: I assume poweroff, poweron doesn't help10:39
HartziAnttiE: I'm afraid not :D10:39
StskeepsAnttiE: okay, just to make sure, when you slide sideways, it doesn't move down?10:39
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ShadowJKcool, landscape mode10:40
HartziAnttiE: #jollasuomi10:40
AnttiEI have tried to take battery you, sim card out, reboot it million times etc. It doesn't slide sideways, which makes life difficult10:40
fk_lxShadowJK: many would want that glitch in webbrowser10:40
StskeepsAnttiE: can i ask a couple of background questions on how it got in this state?10:41
StskeepsAnttiE: did you have any errors or problems when doing an upgrade, it got stalled / you had to do it multiple times?10:41
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StskeepsAnttiE: trying to see what we can do without having to take the device in for care; it's obviously a bug that it ended up in that state10:43
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fk_lxStskeeps: seems a serious bug10:45
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Stskeepsit is, you should always be able to in non-developer mode to factory reset10:45
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fk_lxStskeeps: maybe it would be good to include some alternative factory reset function outside the OS, something like rescue partition10:46
Stskeepsfk_lx: yes, it's in the works10:46
fk_lxStskeeps: good10:46
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fk_lxStskeeps: because I cannot imagine that someone from, for example Spain would have to sent the phone back to Finland to do a factory reset ;-)10:47
AnttiEHmm. I got my phone, then it gave me an OS update, which I installed. Then when it reboot it gave me another (second update I gues), which I installed also. Then everything seemed to be ready, so I started to send my contacts from Nokia E7 via bluetooth (200 files), then installed them one by one :( After that found a way to bring them in from sim card which I also did. Then removed duplicates :D Then installed google account and email. se10:47
AnttiEthere is all I did before the damage10:48
AnttiE6 hours of Jolla sailing and hit the rocky bottom :)10:48
StskeepsAnttiE: i'm impressed that this happened, to be honest :)10:48
fk_lxAnttiE: we don't have your full description it got cut off ->  Then installed google account and email. se10:48
PnuuAnttiE: your message cut at "google account and email. se"10:48
Pnuume slow10:49
StskeepsAnttiE: can i ask you to message me your e-mail so i can contact you on next steps? I sadly think we need to get it in for care@ to investigate the problem10:49
Stskeepsbecause this obviously shouldn't happen :)10:50
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fk_lxStskeeps: for sure ;-)10:51
fk_lxStskeeps: good that in Poland there is care point in Warsaw ;-) if my phone would go to the same state :-D10:52
ln-what is this second update AnttiE is referring to?10:52
Stskeepsln-: that's why i think something went wrong in update process :)10:52
AnttiEThen installed google account and email. send  some emails. Installed Amazon store from which skype and spotify, then got yandex to works  with computer, installed a web browser from there. Then tried to send music from apple  (couldn't find the phone), then from my ubuntu computer (couldn't find it) and finally  from windows pc, which went ok. I created a folder called Music to my Jolla and throw10:53
AnttiE unsic and videos there. After this I saw that my ambiences and email accounts had  disappered -> reboot  -> "landscape mode"10:53
AnttiEthats my email10:54
StskeepsAnttiE: thank you10:54
fk_lxAnttiE: btw. have you tried removing yout TOH and putting it on while phone is on?10:55
AnttiEfk_lx: yep10:55
AnttiEand also without any cover etc10:55
StskeepsAnttiE: i've asked our care guys what to do to proceed, it may take a little bit since it's weekend and all10:55
StskeepsAnttiE: will be in touch10:55
HartziAnttiE: what happens if you open the gallery an open a photo and then try view photos in landscape and then in portrait?10:56
AnttiEStskeeps: Thank you very much10:56
AnttiEHartzi: Gallery lost all of its content10:56
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HartziAnttiE: try take a photo10:56
AnttiEWhen I take pictures with camera they go nowere10:56
fk_lxindexing doesn't work10:57
Hartzile fu10:57
Stskeepsone of many reasons why i'd like somebody to take a look at that device :)10:57
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StskeepsAnttiE: are you fine if it ends up with a factory reset?10:57
AnttiEI have sent email to care when this happened, but sadly I have commented my own post in support which put it in the end of queue10:57
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AnttiEnumber 3000 something10:57
Stskeepsie, if there's any data you want to rescue10:57
AnttiEStskeeps: very very happy10:57
AnttiEbecause it already lost almost all10:58
AnttiEsome phone numbers didn't :o10:58
AnttiEbut more than half went to cyber heaven10:58
StskeepsAnttiE: also, are you one of the 450 first?10:58
fk_lxbtw. have you tried calling that phone from other phone?10:58
Stskeepsfk_lx: sadly all those tricks won't work, i think gconf got nuked10:59
fk_lxStskeeps: ah, I see10:59
AnttiEyes, this is my work phone so I use it every day, answer sideways while don't know who calls10:59
fk_lxStskeeps: and there was probably a setting of portrait/landscape mode10:59
fk_lxStskeeps: right?10:59
Stskeepsfk_lx: correct, or rather, framebuffer orientation10:59
fk_lxStskeeps: ah11:00
AnttiEI think that it's related to landscape mode, because a puzzle game and also Jolla Store work in landscape now11:01
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AnttiE(use the whole screen=11:03
AnttiEStskeeps: I wasn't within the 450, got the phone from post office 11.1211:05
StskeepsAnttiE: okay11:05
StskeepsAnttiE: did you by any chance glance at the 'about product' before you did all the upgrades11:05
Stskeepsif it said there11:06
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AnttiEI think I went there but don't remember any numers I possibly saw11:06
fk_lxStskeeps: do phones that are now being sent have the latest upgrade or they need to be upgraded by users?11:06
Stskeepsfk_lx: everything starts at currently11:06
StskeepsAnttiE: okay11:07
AnttiEit works normally, except the screen turned and photos I take are not going to gallery11:07
AnttiEI don't remember how the Jolla Store should look like, but in my phone now it is in landscapa like this:
StskeepsAnttiE: okay, that does look a bit fancy :P11:11
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smokexAnttiE: the gallery looks like its in an early development state and needs quite a bit of work11:16
smokexI saw some qml files that looked like they were for adding albums in the gallery at some point11:16
AnttiEit seems that way, I have read from intenet that other people have had the same problem with gallery, but no one who had this landscape problem like me11:17
smokexif you look at the files in /usr/lib/oneshot.d/ you can manually add the photos folder to the gallery..11:17
smokexlook at the script for picture reindexing11:18
AnttiEI actualle try to do that at the moment11:18
AnttiEWhere should I put photos so that they would appear in the gallery?11:18
smokexno subfolders11:19
smokexand they have to be .jpg11:19
smokexyou're welcome11:19
AnttiEI am a product developer guy my self, so I didn't get too surpriced when this happened. More like a hobby to me, so still a happy customer11:21
smokexyeah looks like we have a LOT of room for making better apps :)11:22
smokexthe media app also has a very short list of supported types that no one uses11:24
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MMoriCould anyone give me a quick tutorial on how to run my sailfish app on my Jolla device. (That could also be added to the Help in QtCreator)11:28
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VDVsxMMori, if you have a rpm package already and devel mode installed: pkcon install-local application_name11:30
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MMoriVDVsx: I'll try that, thank you11:32
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VDVsxMMori, if is just a binary file and you don't even need to package it for testing, just copy to device and then run via command line like any linux binary11:35
VDVsxnew sdk has device support already, havent tried11:35
MMoriHa, it's that easy, nice11:35
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AnttiEI have tow go now, if there is any way to help, you can reach me by email: or here in irc11:46
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BysmyyrAny good tutorial to use c++ in programs. I do not get it working.13:02
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nander << does this help?13:10
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edipsWhen I run Sailfish IDE it gives error as "Virtual Machine 'MerSDK' is not installed!"13:17
edipsCan you help me?13:17
Yanielcan you check if it shows up in the normal virtualbox gui?13:17
edipsIt doesnt open any virtual emulator13:18
edipsFirst I clicked merSDK then emulator13:19
Yanielno I mean open VirtualBox13:19
Yanielis the Mer SDK vm listed there13:19
edipsI apply them as selfishos guide's instructions13:19
edipsI am on VBox now13:20
edipson Lubuntu 13.1013:20
edipsI installed selfishos ide on vbox13:20
Yanielyou have lubuntu installed in virtualbox?13:21
edipsi also installed necessitas in vbox and i can build apps13:21
edipsmy main os is win713:21
Yanielwhy not install the sailfish sdk on win7 then13:22
Yanielshould work there as well13:22
edipsbecause win7 always have problems with qt13:22
YanielI don't know how well you can run virtualbox on an os running already inside virtualbox13:22
edipsie i couldnt launch necessitas on win713:22
YanielI suggest you give it a try13:23
edipswell, SailfishOS can make apk apps and run it from android devices?13:23
edipsOk I will try it on Wİn7, I met with sailfishOS today13:23
Yanielthe SailfishOS SDK can't make apks13:24
Yanielit can build .rpm which you can install on a device running SailfishOS13:24
edipsOk I told it because jolla device can run android apps13:24
edipsI see.. Unfortunatelly I dont have jolla13:25
Jonnivirtualbox inside virtualbox is a bad idea13:25
Yanielandroid knows nothing about jolla13:25
Jonniso should just use your native os. Win7 and Win8 should work just fine on latest SDK.13:25
edipsI know..13:26
edipsThank you for help :) I will install it win713:26
edipswe can make apps with just qml, c++, qt with sailfish ide?13:27
edipsor can we use pyside, pyqt too?13:27
Jonniwell you can use, but harbour store doesnt accept them currently yet. But you can sideload the apps fine.13:27
edipsI see13:28
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edipsCan we install sailfishOS as a custom ROM to android devices?13:36
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rpulkrabekNot sure how, but I have lost my ambiance images. Where are these located on the device, and is there a repository available online?13:47
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valdur55rpulkrabek: reinstall jolla-ambiance package13:48
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rpulkrabekis there a command for this? apt-get install jolla-ambiance?13:50
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valdur55zypper ??? jolla-ambiance13:53
Yanielpkcon install13:53
Yanieldon't use zypper on device13:54
Pnuuthere's no such package13:54
Pnuu"could not find jolla-ambiance"13:54
rpulkrabekwhat is pkcon?13:55
valdur55or it is jolla-gallery-ambience13:56
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Pnuuvaldur55: not that either13:57
Pnuurpulkrabek: commandline installation software13:57
Pnuubtw, is there a search command for pkcon?13:58
Yanielpkcon search?13:59
Pnuupkcon -h  doesn't list any commands, only some switches13:59
PnuuYaniel: nope13:59
Yanielpkcon get-packages13:59
Yanieland grep ^^14:00
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Yanielpkcon search name <name>14:01
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Pnuuno hits14:02
nanderIs there a way to get sdl in sailfish?14:02
Yanielwhat did you try?14:02
PnuuYaniel: pkcon search ambiance14:02
Yanielbtw `pkcon` lists available pkcon commands14:02
Pnuualso tried grep14:03
Yanielnot ambiance14:03
Pnuuoh, roit :-D14:03
Yanielidk why like 75% of all people misspell it14:03
Yanielthe base word is "ambient" after all14:03
Pnuuboth are used :-P14:04
Yanielah, the french one14:04
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Yanielor french-based whatever14:05
Pnuuyeah, ambiant seems to be frenc-based14:06
YanielI only remember seeing "ambience" on any jolla or sailfish docs14:06
Yanielbut on twitter etc everyone seems to say ambiance14:06
PnuuI've never studied french, so don't know how that a-version has stuck14:07
Pnuupropably 'cause of pronounciation or something14:07
Stskeepsin other languages it's translated as 'atmosphere'14:07
Yaniel"ambiente" is a thing in german at least14:08
Yanielsure "atmosphere" is more used14:08
rpulkrabekArgh, I had spelled incorrectly as ambiance. No wonder I couldn't find the package14:08
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rpulkrabekI was able to reinstall the package, but I am still missing the images. The only one I have available is the snow white that comes with the other half14:10
rpulkrabekwhere are these images stored on the device?14:11
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Yanielprobably just the gallery app bug a few people have encountered14:11
Yanielstuff going randomly missing14:11
valdur55maybe /etc/skel folder14:11
rpulkrabek/etc/skel/ is empty for me14:15
Pnuufor me too14:16
Pnuuonly .bash_logout, .bash_profile and .bashrc14:17
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smokexrpulkrabek: they are stored in /usr/share/ambience14:22
smokexwhen you make a wallpaper automatically in to an ambience that is stored in an sqlite database so you won't find anything for those on disc14:23
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rpulkrabekFantastic! Thanks smokex14:26
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tortoisedoc_why is my app crashing on SailfishApp::createview14:51
tortoisedoc_smokex : o/14:51
tortoisedoc_it says bad_allocation14:51
smokexdid you just switch to hte new sdk?14:52
tortoisedoc_smokex : yep14:52
smokexdid you clean before building?14:52
tortoisedoc_you mean the specific project? or the old sdk?14:52
smokexand I think theres a new app template14:53
tortoisedoc_i think i did, but just in case I will do it14:53
smokexmaybe you should make a dummy app and compare your main loop14:53
tortoisedoc_yeah well14:53
tortoisedoc_i need to get the qquickview from a factory14:53
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tortoisedoc_so its not in the mainloop14:54
tortoisedoc_but i have a QGuiApplication object created before that14:54
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tortoisedoc_test app i did on previous alpha was ok14:54
tortoisedoc_lets see if that works14:54
smokexI gotta crash.. almost 1am here14:54
smokexlater :)14:55
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tortoisedoc_something does not add up15:51
tortoisedoc_new QQuickView() crashes on latest sdk version15:51
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tortoisedoc_(with emulator)15:56
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tortoisedoc_anyone knows where I can get the SailfishApp::main source?16:14
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artemmaFAQ tells to use journalctl instead of logs...16:33
artemmamm.. how do I use it16:33
Stskeepsdevel-su, journalctl16:34
artemmarunning journalctl in shall gives only "Showing user generated messages only. Users in the group 'adm' can see all messages. Pass -q to turn this message off."16:34
artemmaah, sudo16:34
artemmaStskeeps: I see lots of log messages, but QML's console.log doesn't seem to go there :/16:38
artemmaactually I can't see qDebug() << "hello"; from cpp either16:39
artemmaI must be missing something simple16:39
Stskeepshow do you start it16:40
artemmaah, I was just stuck at the first page of output16:40
artemmaexpected it to print everything to the end16:40
faenilartemma, "journalctl -fa" if you want to see it updating live16:41
artemmanow I can see all the debug prints, but.. it's not autoupdatong, is it?16:41
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faenilartemma, :)16:41
faenilartemma, btw, I haven't keylogged you :P16:41
artemmait's okay, faenil, you will learn16:42
artemmakeylogging remote IRC partners is difficult for many beginners16:42
* artemma off to porting HelloWorld Pro and Wikipedia to new SDK16:43
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tortoisedoc_crap the #¤¤)&¤/#&"(¤#&16:45
tortoisedoc_this SailfishApp:: wrapper is kindof problematic16:45
tortoisedoc_i cant seem to get even a new project compiled from scratch to run on the emulator!16:46
artemmatortoisedoc_: tried HelloWorld Pro already?16:51
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artemmait uses old template though (porting to new one right now), but it reimplements sailfishapp stuff manually16:51
tortoisedoc_it seems also just creating a QQuickView fails16:53
tortoisedoc_(not in an exception tho)16:53
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tortoisedoc_Unable to find dynamic linker breakpoint function. GDB will be unable to debug shared library initializers and track explicitly loaded dynamic code.16:55
tortoisedoc_Could not load shared library symbols for 47 libraries, e.g. /usr/lib/ Use the "info sharedlibrary" command to see the complete listing. Do you need "set solib-search-path" or "set sysroot"?16:55
tortoisedoc_this is what I get16:55
tortoisedoc_when creating the QQuickView16:55
Jonnix86 vs arm? rsync vs rpm deployment?16:57
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Jonnias out of the box libsailfish has not been installed, so rsync will have problems, rpm pulls in the library16:58
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* artemma wonders why deployment by copying binaries is the default target at all. Seems to never work anyway17:00
artemmaSuddenly I see QML console output in the emulator. Wow!17:01
artemmaaha, debug prints are shown in IDE only when running QtQuick tests (at I guess non-QML tests too). funny17:02
artemmaoh well, yet another reason to push further on test driven development front :)17:03
Jonniwell rsync is few seconds faster, so most likely thats why, but considering the problems, it might be better to have rpm as default and let advanced uses switch to rsync17:03
artemmaJonni: I think so too as every second advice to beginners is to try running app via RPM for dependencies to be installed17:05
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artemmait looks like not exactly all my logs go to journalctl :/17:06
artemmaof course might be my app issue17:06
Jonniyou dont happen to have installed any custom messagefilters in your app to block the messages going to journalctl?17:06
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* artemma isn't really familiar with all the *nix tools anyway. Basics of find and grep is my level17:08
artemmawow! Changing .pro file didn't overwrite my .yaml anymore! I can't believe it was fixed!17:09
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* artemma likes shadow building in new SDK, but.. I already tuned all .giignore, scripts and practices for non-shadowbuilds :)17:22
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artemmaarrgh, lots of silica code, now uses __silica_applicationwindow_instance17:28
artemmathat apparently doesn't exist during test execution time even if I create ApplicationWindow17:29
artemmashall I wait until this is instantiated?17:29
artemmaTests actually run fine for now as __silica_applicationwindow_instance seems to be used only for setting colors and orientations, so it's ok if it fails, but earlier or later it will bite17:30
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artemmadoes somebody know what __silica_applicationwindow_instance is and where/how it is set? I'd like to fake it reliably or to make sure it gets created for the tests17:31
artemmaaha, ApplicationWindow seems to define it.. why it's not usable from my test that is wrapped into ApplicationWindow?17:32
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artemmaNo, QtC still overwrites my .yaml when imports .pro. sigh18:12
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tortoisedoc_Jonni : rpm & rsync18:21
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artemmait's a pity sailshiapp CONFIG doesn't define DEPLOYMENT_PATH of any sort. /me doesn't like hardcoding /usr/share/$${TARGET}18:25
lbtartemma: hmm18:25
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jake9xxartemma: where would you place your qmls then?18:26
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artemmajake9xx: it's fine that config helps me, but you always need a little more than default template18:26
artemmaI expected something like DEPLOYMENT_PATH = /usr/share/$$TARGET in sailfishapp.prf18:27
tortoisedoc_artemma : I agree18:27
artemmaactually, that's what I am adding to my .pro now :)18:27
tortoisedoc_but I believe sailfishapp is wip18:27
tortoisedoc_artemma : i think yaml works on INSTALL18:27
jake9xxyes, there is already stuff in backlog :)18:28
tortoisedoc_(which imo is better than DEPLOYMENT_PATH)18:28
artemmatortoisedoc_: ?18:28
tortoisedoc_artemma : yaml registers files coming from INSTALL18:28
artemmajake9xx: I hope not. Every attempt to automate stuff via magic causes me lots of headache :(18:28
tortoisedoc_(qtcreator does)18:28
* artemma hates how Creator plugins constantly try corrupting his .yaml on every pro import and often on .pro modification18:29
jake9xxartemma: well... you know you dont _HAVE_TO_ use the libsailfishapp18:29
jake9xxit's just provided for easy-to-use stuff. Feel free to instantiate your onn QQuickView18:29
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lbtartemma: it should really be relative too18:30
artemmaI understand: plugin authors didn't think that simple templates needs subpackages, but that's why I like limiting the amount of magic. after first a couple of days everybody needs a little more than minimal stuff18:30
artemmajake9xx, it's not like this. Instructions for replacing .cpp stuff exist, but sailfish config INSTALLS magic is never explained18:31
artemmajust look at the mailing list traffic where people try correcting icons18:31
jake9xxthp: ^18:31
lbtthere's an rsync method which deploys (as user) to /opt/sdk/%name/usr/{bin,share}18:31
lbtwhich still works (at least 1310 worked)18:31
lbtand is much quicker when you just hack on the qml18:31
lbtmb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl -d Jolla_custom deploy --rsync18:31
artemmayou know. A quick-fix could actually be as simple as adding comments into template .pro that explain where the magic comes from18:32
jake9xxlbt: yes, but it's deploy binaries mode, not rpm deployment18:32
artemmawould save many nerves me thinks18:32
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tortoisedoc_artemma : it is explained in the .pr18:32
lbtjake9xx: OK - wasn't sure of the name18:33
lbtjake9xx: I know it's WIP - what's the status of rsync now?18:33
tortoisedoc_artemm : contents of prf is explained here18:33
artemmaFCK! .yaml got overwritten on Cmd-R (because it triggered saving .pro) -> wrong packaging -> packaging failed18:33
jake9xxlbt: well it works like in 1310 also in device. In Laadunjärvi release the /opt/sdk permission change was delivered to developer mode package18:34
tortoisedoc_jake9xx : for me QQuickView creation fails on both rpm & rsync18:34
tortoisedoc_(on emulator)18:34
artemmatortoisedoc_thanks, I didn't see it before. Yeah, this sort of instructions look good. I still believe link to it needs to be included into template's .pro18:34
lbtjake9xx: OK - I've not updated yet as my VM has mods and I just wanted to do some hacking :)18:34
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tortoisedoc_artemma : that is actually not a bad idea *hints at thp*18:36
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jake9xxtortoisedoc_: can you pastie your main.cpp ?18:38
jake9xxtortoisedoc_: I can check the QQuickView part18:38
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jake9xxartemma: why do you include sailfishapp.h when you don't use it? Have you removed it from yaml as well?18:42
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artemmajake9xx: didn't notice that it needs to be removed I think18:42
artemmapull requests are kindly welcome ;)18:42
artemmafor making more people collaborate and for limiting my work :)18:43
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nanderGL/gl.h : No such file or directory19:18
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nanderI tried to compile irrlicht on the sdk19:18
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nanderI probably need the opengl es version of irrlicht?19:20
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tortoisedoc_jake9xx :
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tortoisedoc_nander : most likely yes19:29
tortoisedoc_as it is opengles :P19:29
tortoisedoc_(after all)19:29
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nanderI'm just gonna keep playing with SDL19:30
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* artemma updated HelloWorld Pro and Wikipedia to new SDK and pushed to harbour. Once they get approved, people will have new templates for basic and not so basic stuff 20:00
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Pnuuthose will be handy20:20
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janmaltei couldn't find a whatsapp client for sailfish on N9. I think there isn't any out yet?20:40
artemma-bash: zypper: command not found20:46
artemmaHmm. How do I uninstall my app then?20:46
Pnuupkcon uninstall packagename ?20:47
artemmaCommand failed: Option 'uninstall' is not supported20:48
Nicd-pkcon remove20:48
artemmathx, helped20:49
PnuuNicd-: thanks :-)20:49
artemmafunny that pkcon's --help-all doesn't list a single supported command :)20:49
Pnuuartemma: yeah, I've been wondering the same20:50
Nicd-artemma: just type pkcon20:50
Nicd-I think20:50
Pnuuthat works, thanks again :-)20:50
Pnuubut I'd consider that -h broken..20:50
artemmawow, help doesn't list commands, but no-arguments lists :)20:51
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edipsi couldnt install sailfishos sdk21:03
edipson win721:03
edipsis there any exe file?21:04
Pnuufor future reference:
edipsthank you21:06
Pnuuno prob :-)21:06
edips: )21:06
edipsI googled about installing sailfishos for android, but i couldnt find any rom for android21:07
edipscan we install sailfishos for android devices?21:08
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edipsif it is possible, sailfishos will be stronger21:10
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ottuloedips: officially no, but some people have been testing21:13
ottuloedips: it should become pretty easy to do in the future, though21:13
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edipsottulo: i hope so, android is linux based21:18
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edipstake care21:45
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rdappsis there anyone online22:04
faenilrdapps, I don't think the emulator has the android layer22:05
rdappsoh thnx so it is not possible.22:05
jake9xxyes, android run-time is not part of emulator22:11
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rdappswhat about a proper sailfishos image ?22:17
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artemmadoh.. can't figure how SilicaGridView works. Anybody got an example?22:36
artemmadoh, my grid view lays out everything in one row for some reason22:43
artemmaah, cellWidth/cellHeight again!22:49
* Aard just read -- at the end, comment about stuff not showing up in gallery maybe beeing a tracker issue: it _is_ a tracker issue, tracker is (intentionally) not following symlinks23:01
tbrelse you could easily put it in an endless loop23:03
Aard(I tried to edit that, but I'm asked to solve silly mathematical questions)23:03
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FireFlytbr: how so? It ought to be able to detect cycles (though I see why that might add unneeded complexity)23:55
tbryes it would need code to verify that23:56
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tbrand if it doesn't have that it would go into a loop23:57
FireFlyWell, yeah23:57
tbrtracker is not known for it's 'smart code'23:57
tbrI wonder what happens if you use hard links or mount -o bind *eg*23:58
FireFlyI'm guessing hard links would be identified twice, but there isn't much to do about that, is there?23:58
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