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Frye | New sdk <3 | 00:05 |
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Frye | Now some sleep. | 00:05 |
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Acce | Where can I find information on porting from N9 to sailfish? It's a plugin to the maliit, which is used in sailfish too I think | 00:14 |
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cybette | Acce: maybe you can find some useful info https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Porting/Harmattan | 00:28 |
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Acce | cybette: Thanks! ^^ | 00:34 |
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tanghus | Updating to newest SDK. Now lets see if it works :) | 05:12 |
Arless | HI, do you know if there is a bug related to console.log() in the newest sdk? I don't have any output even with the sample project. | 05:16 |
tanghus | :-1: error: Package sailfishapp not found, Hmm | 05:18 |
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Frye | For some reason I cannot generate a rpm form my packag with the new sdk | 05:27 |
Frye | It launches fine inside device with the copy binaries option | 05:27 |
Frye | but rpm complains about missing icon file | 05:27 |
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tanghus | New project works, but now I get "/home/tol/harbour-kitchentimer/src/harbour-kitchentimer.cpp:35: error: sailfishapp.h: No such file or directory" | 05:46 |
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tanghus | make: /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qmake: Command not found | 06:06 |
tanghus | Maybe I should read the release docs | 06:06 |
Arless | I get "GDB will be unable to debug shared library initializers and track explicitly loaded dynamic code.Could not load shared library symbols for 47 libraries, e.g. /usr/lib/libsailfishapp.so.1. Use the "info sharedlibrary" command to see the complete listing. Do you need "set solib-search-path" or "set sysroot"?" | 06:09 |
Arless | when tryin to debug | 06:09 |
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tortoisedoc_ | j0 sailors | 08:28 |
tortoisedoc_ | just installed new alpha of sdk | 08:29 |
tortoisedoc_ | am currently struggling with missing .debug files | 08:29 |
tortoisedoc_ | (which are added to rpm but not generated) | 08:29 |
tortoisedoc_ | I added CONFIG+=debug in the project | 08:29 |
tortoisedoc_ | but meh | 08:29 |
tortoisedoc_ | what am I missing?? | 08:29 |
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tortoisedoc_ | ah also | 08:30 |
tortoisedoc_ | a bug report on yaml editor | 08:30 |
tortoisedoc_ | the only way to add non-files entry to the "files" section is to first add a file from the local disk, then edit the entry | 08:31 |
tortoisedoc_ | it would be awesome to have a right-click->new entry menu which would just add a blank entry; | 08:31 |
tortoisedoc_ | files could still be added then through the button | 08:31 |
Frye | install -m 755 -p /home/mersdk/Devel/Jolla/SameGame/SameGame.png /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/ | 08:31 |
Frye | I'm having hard tim trying to figure out why 86x86 in the path | 08:32 |
Frye | the icon is 90x90 and it worked on previous SDK | 08:32 |
tortoisedoc_ | Frye : do you have CONFIG+=sailfishapp? | 08:32 |
Frye | Now rpm generation fails because the icon file is missing | 08:32 |
tortoisedoc_ | Frye : now icons are supposed to be 86x86 to my knowledge | 08:32 |
Frye | yeah I have that | 08:33 |
Frye | Hmm | 08:33 |
tortoisedoc_ | see here for info on CONFIG+=sailfishapp | 08:34 |
tortoisedoc_ | https://sailfishos.org/develop-packaging-apps.html | 08:34 |
tortoisedoc_ | a bit obscure, but makes sense I guess | 08:34 |
Frye | Thanks, I'll take a look at that | 08:34 |
Frye | Ok, that is where the 86xx86 comes | 08:36 |
tortoisedoc_ | Frye : yes, and alot of other stuff well hidden :P | 08:36 |
Frye | Is this a new chapter in the doc? I could swear that I went through it several times and did not see this information. | 08:37 |
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Frye | Yes, now it works | 08:38 |
Frye | I just changed the references on the yaml form 90x90 to 86x86 | 08:39 |
tortoisedoc_ | lucky you | 08:39 |
tortoisedoc_ | im still fighting with my missing debug files :( | 08:39 |
Frye | Hmm, I got the debuginfo rpms generated | 08:40 |
Frye | But I don't have a clue are they ok or not :D | 08:40 |
tortoisedoc_ | ok now it works | 08:42 |
tortoisedoc_ | :D | 08:42 |
tortoisedoc_ | was missing the default entries | 08:43 |
tortoisedoc_ | interesting question | 08:43 |
tortoisedoc_ | if I want to use sailfishapp without CONFIG+=sailfishapp | 08:43 |
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tortoisedoc_ | (meaning just with SailfishApp:: naming space but not all the files) | 08:44 |
tortoisedoc_ | in this case, this template is not very usefull | 08:45 |
tortoisedoc_ | it would be great to have some more flexibility | 08:45 |
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Frye | glad you have it too | 08:47 |
ericc | bug? | 08:47 |
tortoisedoc_ | ericc : perhaps more of a temporary version of something that is still evolving | 08:48 |
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ericc | maybe .it will be good.later version | 08:51 |
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Frye | Hmm, for some reason I lost all my console.debugs | 09:07 |
Frye | No running application output is shown on IDE when app is running in the emulator | 09:08 |
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c-aries | where can i download the latest sailfish image? | 10:22 |
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Frye | c-aries, SDK is here: https://sailfishos.org/develop.html | 10:26 |
Frye | But as in Image running on a device there is none available atm. | 10:27 |
Bysmyyr | "could not connect to Sailfishos emulator virtual machine" any ideas? | 10:30 |
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AnttiE | Tervehdys, Sain jollan puhelimen näytön kääntymään 90 astetta suhteessa puhelimeen, nyt en saa tehdasasetuksia palautettua, koska ruudun alareuna on puhelimen ulkopuolella. Ajattelin kysyä jos joku voisi auttaa minua koodaamaan esim softan pätkän joka resettaa luurin tai vastaavan kikan. | 10:35 |
AnttiE | http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/94411481/jolla2.png | 10:35 |
Bysmyyr | one button missed... now it works :) | 10:35 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: sorry, english pleasE? | 10:36 |
AnttiE | Could someone help me to factory reset my phone with very limited screen acces | 10:36 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: do you have fingerterm installed by chance? | 10:36 |
AnttiE | not yet | 10:37 |
Stskeeps | okay, can you try to see if you can enable developer mode? | 10:37 |
Stskeeps | i'm very interested in how you got into that mode, so | 10:37 |
AnttiE | I tried, but the developer mode is in the lower end of the settings app | 10:37 |
AnttiE | which isn't possible to reach, because it is outside the phone :) | 10:38 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: are you based in helsinki by chance? | 10:38 |
AnttiE | Keuruu :( | 10:38 |
AnttiE | 3 hours to helsinki | 10:38 |
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fk_lx | that's far | 10:38 |
Hartzi | AnttiE: I'm also from keuruu D: | 10:39 |
Stskeeps | and the guy we have in jyvaskyla is up north currently.. hmm | 10:39 |
AnttiE | :D | 10:39 |
AnttiE | can you fix my phone :) | 10:39 |
fk_lx | AnttiE: I assume poweroff, poweron doesn't help | 10:39 |
Hartzi | AnttiE: I'm afraid not :D | 10:39 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: okay, just to make sure, when you slide sideways, it doesn't move down? | 10:39 |
Hartzi | -t | 10:39 |
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ShadowJK | cool, landscape mode | 10:40 |
Hartzi | AnttiE: #jollasuomi | 10:40 |
AnttiE | I have tried to take battery you, sim card out, reboot it million times etc. It doesn't slide sideways, which makes life difficult | 10:40 |
fk_lx | ShadowJK: many would want that glitch in webbrowser | 10:40 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: can i ask a couple of background questions on how it got in this state? | 10:41 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: did you have any errors or problems when doing an upgrade, it got stalled / you had to do it multiple times? | 10:41 |
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Stskeeps | AnttiE: trying to see what we can do without having to take the device in for care; it's obviously a bug that it ended up in that state | 10:43 |
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fk_lx | Stskeeps: seems a serious bug | 10:45 |
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Stskeeps | it is, you should always be able to in non-developer mode to factory reset | 10:45 |
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fk_lx | Stskeeps: maybe it would be good to include some alternative factory reset function outside the OS, something like rescue partition | 10:46 |
Stskeeps | fk_lx: yes, it's in the works | 10:46 |
fk_lx | Stskeeps: good | 10:46 |
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fk_lx | Stskeeps: because I cannot imagine that someone from, for example Spain would have to sent the phone back to Finland to do a factory reset ;-) | 10:47 |
AnttiE | Hmm. I got my phone, then it gave me an OS update, which I installed. Then when it reboot it gave me another (second update I gues), which I installed also. Then everything seemed to be ready, so I started to send my contacts from Nokia E7 via bluetooth (200 files), then installed them one by one :( After that found a way to bring them in from sim card which I also did. Then removed duplicates :D Then installed google account and email. se | 10:47 |
AnttiE | :D | 10:47 |
AnttiE | there is all I did before the damage | 10:48 |
AnttiE | 6 hours of Jolla sailing and hit the rocky bottom :) | 10:48 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: i'm impressed that this happened, to be honest :) | 10:48 |
fk_lx | AnttiE: we don't have your full description it got cut off -> Then installed google account and email. se | 10:48 |
Pnuu | AnttiE: your message cut at "google account and email. se" | 10:48 |
Pnuu | me slow | 10:49 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: can i ask you to message me your e-mail so i can contact you on next steps? I sadly think we need to get it in for care@ to investigate the problem | 10:49 |
Stskeeps | because this obviously shouldn't happen :) | 10:50 |
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fk_lx | Stskeeps: for sure ;-) | 10:51 |
fk_lx | Stskeeps: good that in Poland there is care point in Warsaw ;-) if my phone would go to the same state :-D | 10:52 |
ln- | what is this second update AnttiE is referring to? | 10:52 |
Stskeeps | ln-: that's why i think something went wrong in update process :) | 10:52 |
AnttiE | Then installed google account and email. send some emails. Installed Amazon store from which skype and spotify, then got yandex to works with computer, installed a web browser from there. Then tried to send music from apple (couldn't find the phone), then from my ubuntu computer (couldn't find it) and finally from windows pc, which went ok. I created a folder called Music to my Jolla and throw | 10:53 |
AnttiE | unsic and videos there. After this I saw that my ambiences and email accounts had disappered -> reboot -> "landscape mode" | 10:53 |
AnttiE | sef@elmeri.net | 10:54 |
AnttiE | thats my email | 10:54 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: thank you | 10:54 |
fk_lx | AnttiE: btw. have you tried removing yout TOH and putting it on while phone is on? | 10:55 |
AnttiE | fk_lx: yep | 10:55 |
AnttiE | and also without any cover etc | 10:55 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: i've asked our care guys what to do to proceed, it may take a little bit since it's weekend and all | 10:55 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: will be in touch | 10:55 |
Hartzi | AnttiE: what happens if you open the gallery an open a photo and then try view photos in landscape and then in portrait? | 10:56 |
AnttiE | Stskeeps: Thank you very much | 10:56 |
AnttiE | Hartzi: Gallery lost all of its content | 10:56 |
fk_lx | ouch | 10:56 |
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Hartzi | AnttiE: try take a photo | 10:56 |
AnttiE | When I take pictures with camera they go nowere | 10:56 |
Hartzi | oh | 10:56 |
Hartzi | :| | 10:57 |
AnttiE | :) | 10:57 |
fk_lx | indexing doesn't work | 10:57 |
AnttiE | :D | 10:57 |
Hartzi | le fu | 10:57 |
Stskeeps | one of many reasons why i'd like somebody to take a look at that device :) | 10:57 |
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Stskeeps | AnttiE: are you fine if it ends up with a factory reset? | 10:57 |
AnttiE | I have sent email to care when this happened, but sadly I have commented my own post in support which put it in the end of queue | 10:57 |
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AnttiE | number 3000 something | 10:57 |
Stskeeps | ie, if there's any data you want to rescue | 10:57 |
AnttiE | Stskeeps: very very happy | 10:57 |
AnttiE | nope | 10:58 |
AnttiE | because it already lost almost all | 10:58 |
Stskeeps | alright | 10:58 |
AnttiE | some phone numbers didn't :o | 10:58 |
AnttiE | but more than half went to cyber heaven | 10:58 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: also, are you one of the 450 first? | 10:58 |
fk_lx | btw. have you tried calling that phone from other phone? | 10:58 |
Stskeeps | fk_lx: sadly all those tricks won't work, i think gconf got nuked | 10:59 |
fk_lx | Stskeeps: ah, I see | 10:59 |
AnttiE | yes, this is my work phone so I use it every day, answer sideways while don't know who calls | 10:59 |
fk_lx | Stskeeps: and there was probably a setting of portrait/landscape mode | 10:59 |
fk_lx | Stskeeps: right? | 10:59 |
Stskeeps | fk_lx: correct, or rather, framebuffer orientation | 10:59 |
fk_lx | Stskeeps: ah | 11:00 |
AnttiE | I think that it's related to landscape mode, because a puzzle game and also Jolla Store work in landscape now | 11:01 |
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AnttiE | (use the whole screen= | 11:03 |
AnttiE | Stskeeps: I wasn't within the 450, got the phone from post office 11.12 | 11:05 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: okay | 11:05 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: did you by any chance glance at the 'about product' before you did all the upgrades | 11:05 |
Stskeeps | if it said 1.0.0.5 there | 11:06 |
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AnttiE | I think I went there but don't remember any numers I possibly saw | 11:06 |
fk_lx | Stskeeps: do phones that are now being sent have the latest upgrade or they need to be upgraded by users? | 11:06 |
Stskeeps | fk_lx: everything starts at 1.0.0.5 currently | 11:06 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: okay | 11:07 |
AnttiE | it works normally, except the screen turned and photos I take are not going to gallery | 11:07 |
AnttiE | I don't remember how the Jolla Store should look like, but in my phone now it is in landscapa like this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/94411481/kuva.JPG | 11:10 |
Stskeeps | AnttiE: okay, that does look a bit fancy :P | 11:11 |
fk_lx | :-D | 11:11 |
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smokex | AnttiE: the gallery looks like its in an early development state and needs quite a bit of work | 11:16 |
smokex | I saw some qml files that looked like they were for adding albums in the gallery at some point | 11:16 |
AnttiE | it seems that way, I have read from intenet that other people have had the same problem with gallery, but no one who had this landscape problem like me | 11:17 |
smokex | if you look at the files in /usr/lib/oneshot.d/ you can manually add the photos folder to the gallery.. | 11:17 |
smokex | look at the script for picture reindexing | 11:18 |
AnttiE | I actualle try to do that at the moment | 11:18 |
AnttiE | Where should I put photos so that they would appear in the gallery? | 11:18 |
smokex | ~/Pictures | 11:19 |
smokex | no subfolders | 11:19 |
AnttiE | thanks | 11:19 |
smokex | and they have to be .jpg | 11:19 |
smokex | you're welcome | 11:19 |
AnttiE | I am a product developer guy my self, so I didn't get too surpriced when this happened. More like a hobby to me, so still a happy customer | 11:21 |
smokex | yeah looks like we have a LOT of room for making better apps :) | 11:22 |
smokex | the media app also has a very short list of supported types that no one uses | 11:24 |
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MMori | Could anyone give me a quick tutorial on how to run my sailfish app on my Jolla device. (That could also be added to the Help in QtCreator) | 11:28 |
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VDVsx | MMori, if you have a rpm package already and devel mode installed: pkcon install-local application_name | 11:30 |
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MMori | VDVsx: I'll try that, thank you | 11:32 |
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VDVsx | MMori, if is just a binary file and you don't even need to package it for testing, just copy to device and then run via command line like any linux binary | 11:35 |
VDVsx | new sdk has device support already, havent tried | 11:35 |
MMori | Ha, it's that easy, nice | 11:35 |
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AnttiE | I have tow go now, if there is any way to help, you can reach me by email: sef@elmeri.net or here in irc | 11:46 |
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Bysmyyr | Any good tutorial to use c++ in programs. I do not get it working. | 13:02 |
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nander | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtqml/qtqml-cppintegration-topic.html << does this help? | 13:10 |
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edips | Hello | 13:16 |
edips | When I run Sailfish IDE it gives error as "Virtual Machine 'MerSDK' is not installed!" | 13:17 |
edips | Can you help me? | 13:17 |
Yaniel | can you check if it shows up in the normal virtualbox gui? | 13:17 |
edips | It doesnt open any virtual emulator | 13:18 |
edips | First I clicked merSDK then emulator | 13:19 |
Yaniel | no I mean open VirtualBox | 13:19 |
Yaniel | is the Mer SDK vm listed there | 13:19 |
edips | I apply them as selfishos guide's instructions | 13:19 |
edips | I am on VBox now | 13:20 |
edips | on Lubuntu 13.10 | 13:20 |
edips | I installed selfishos ide on vbox | 13:20 |
Yaniel | umm | 13:20 |
Yaniel | you have lubuntu installed in virtualbox? | 13:21 |
edips | i also installed necessitas in vbox and i can build apps | 13:21 |
edips | yes | 13:21 |
edips | my main os is win7 | 13:21 |
Yaniel | why not install the sailfish sdk on win7 then | 13:22 |
Yaniel | should work there as well | 13:22 |
edips | because win7 always have problems with qt | 13:22 |
Yaniel | I don't know how well you can run virtualbox on an os running already inside virtualbox | 13:22 |
edips | ie i couldnt launch necessitas on win7 | 13:22 |
Yaniel | I suggest you give it a try | 13:23 |
edips | well, SailfishOS can make apk apps and run it from android devices? | 13:23 |
edips | Ok I will try it on Wİn7, I met with sailfishOS today | 13:23 |
Yaniel | the SailfishOS SDK can't make apks | 13:24 |
Yaniel | it can build .rpm which you can install on a device running SailfishOS | 13:24 |
edips | Ok I told it because jolla device can run android apps | 13:24 |
edips | I see.. Unfortunatelly I dont have jolla | 13:25 |
Jonni | virtualbox inside virtualbox is a bad idea | 13:25 |
Yaniel | android knows nothing about jolla | 13:25 |
Jonni | so should just use your native os. Win7 and Win8 should work just fine on latest SDK. | 13:25 |
edips | I know.. | 13:26 |
edips | Thank you for help :) I will install it win7 | 13:26 |
edips | we can make apps with just qml, c++, qt with sailfish ide? | 13:27 |
edips | or can we use pyside, pyqt too? | 13:27 |
Jonni | well you can use, but harbour store doesnt accept them currently yet. But you can sideload the apps fine. | 13:27 |
edips | I see | 13:28 |
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edips | Can we install sailfishOS as a custom ROM to android devices? | 13:36 |
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rpulkrabek | Not sure how, but I have lost my ambiance images. Where are these located on the device, and is there a repository available online? | 13:47 |
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valdur55 | rpulkrabek: reinstall jolla-ambiance package | 13:48 |
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rpulkrabek | is there a command for this? apt-get install jolla-ambiance? | 13:50 |
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valdur55 | zypper ??? jolla-ambiance | 13:53 |
Yaniel | pkcon install | 13:53 |
Yaniel | don't use zypper on device | 13:54 |
Pnuu | there's no such package | 13:54 |
Pnuu | "could not find jolla-ambiance" | 13:54 |
rpulkrabek | what is pkcon? | 13:55 |
valdur55 | or it is jolla-gallery-ambience | 13:56 |
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Pnuu | valdur55: not that either | 13:57 |
Pnuu | rpulkrabek: commandline installation software | 13:57 |
Pnuu | btw, is there a search command for pkcon? | 13:58 |
Yaniel | pkcon search? | 13:59 |
Pnuu | pkcon -h doesn't list any commands, only some switches | 13:59 |
Pnuu | Yaniel: nope | 13:59 |
Yaniel | pkcon get-packages | 13:59 |
Yaniel | and grep ^^ | 14:00 |
Yaniel | ha | 14:01 |
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Yaniel | pkcon search name <name> | 14:01 |
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Pnuu | no hits | 14:02 |
nander | Is there a way to get sdl in sailfish? | 14:02 |
Yaniel | likely | 14:02 |
Yaniel | what did you try? | 14:02 |
Pnuu | Yaniel: pkcon search ambiance | 14:02 |
Yaniel | btw `pkcon` lists available pkcon commands | 14:02 |
Yaniel | ambience | 14:03 |
Pnuu | also tried grep | 14:03 |
Yaniel | not ambiance | 14:03 |
Pnuu | oh, roit :-D | 14:03 |
Yaniel | idk why like 75% of all people misspell it | 14:03 |
Yaniel | the base word is "ambient" after all | 14:03 |
Pnuu | because: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ambiance | 14:04 |
Pnuu | both are used :-P | 14:04 |
Yaniel | ah, the french one | 14:04 |
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Yaniel | or french-based whatever | 14:05 |
Pnuu | yeah, ambiant seems to be frenc-based | 14:06 |
Yaniel | I only remember seeing "ambience" on any jolla or sailfish docs | 14:06 |
Yaniel | but on twitter etc everyone seems to say ambiance | 14:06 |
Pnuu | I've never studied french, so don't know how that a-version has stuck | 14:07 |
Pnuu | propably 'cause of pronounciation or something | 14:07 |
Stskeeps | in other languages it's translated as 'atmosphere' | 14:07 |
Yaniel | "ambiente" is a thing in german at least | 14:08 |
Yaniel | sure "atmosphere" is more used | 14:08 |
rpulkrabek | Argh, I had spelled incorrectly as ambiance. No wonder I couldn't find the package | 14:08 |
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rpulkrabek | I was able to reinstall the package, but I am still missing the images. The only one I have available is the snow white that comes with the other half | 14:10 |
rpulkrabek | where are these images stored on the device? | 14:11 |
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Yaniel | probably just the gallery app bug a few people have encountered | 14:11 |
Yaniel | stuff going randomly missing | 14:11 |
valdur55 | maybe /etc/skel folder | 14:11 |
rpulkrabek | /etc/skel/ is empty for me | 14:15 |
Pnuu | for me too | 14:16 |
Pnuu | only .bash_logout, .bash_profile and .bashrc | 14:17 |
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smokex | rpulkrabek: they are stored in /usr/share/ambience | 14:22 |
smokex | when you make a wallpaper automatically in to an ambience that is stored in an sqlite database so you won't find anything for those on disc | 14:23 |
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rpulkrabek | Fantastic! Thanks smokex | 14:26 |
smokex | np | 14:27 |
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tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 14:51 |
smokex | o/ | 14:51 |
tortoisedoc_ | why is my app crashing on SailfishApp::createview | 14:51 |
tortoisedoc_ | smokex : o/ | 14:51 |
tortoisedoc_ | it says bad_allocation | 14:51 |
smokex | did you just switch to hte new sdk? | 14:52 |
tortoisedoc_ | smokex : yep | 14:52 |
smokex | did you clean before building? | 14:52 |
tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 14:52 |
tortoisedoc_ | you mean the specific project? or the old sdk? | 14:52 |
smokex | project | 14:53 |
smokex | and I think theres a new app template | 14:53 |
tortoisedoc_ | i think i did, but just in case I will do it | 14:53 |
smokex | maybe you should make a dummy app and compare your main loop | 14:53 |
tortoisedoc_ | yeah well | 14:53 |
tortoisedoc_ | i need to get the qquickview from a factory | 14:53 |
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tortoisedoc_ | so its not in the mainloop | 14:54 |
smokex | ah | 14:54 |
tortoisedoc_ | but i have a QGuiApplication object created before that | 14:54 |
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tortoisedoc_ | test app i did on previous alpha was ok | 14:54 |
tortoisedoc_ | lets see if that works | 14:54 |
smokex | I gotta crash.. almost 1am here | 14:54 |
smokex | later :) | 14:55 |
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tortoisedoc_ | something does not add up | 15:51 |
tortoisedoc_ | new QQuickView() crashes on latest sdk version | 15:51 |
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tortoisedoc_ | (with emulator) | 15:56 |
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tortoisedoc_ | anyone knows where I can get the SailfishApp::main source? | 16:14 |
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artemma | FAQ tells to use journalctl instead of logs... | 16:33 |
artemma | mm.. how do I use it | 16:33 |
artemma | ? | 16:34 |
Stskeeps | devel-su, journalctl | 16:34 |
artemma | running journalctl in shall gives only "Showing user generated messages only. Users in the group 'adm' can see all messages. Pass -q to turn this message off." | 16:34 |
artemma | ah, sudo | 16:34 |
artemma | thanks | 16:35 |
artemma | Stskeeps: I see lots of log messages, but QML's console.log doesn't seem to go there :/ | 16:38 |
Stskeeps | hmmm | 16:38 |
artemma | actually I can't see qDebug() << "hello"; from cpp either | 16:39 |
artemma | I must be missing something simple | 16:39 |
Stskeeps | hmmm | 16:40 |
Stskeeps | how do you start it | 16:40 |
artemma | ah, I was just stuck at the first page of output | 16:40 |
artemma | expected it to print everything to the end | 16:40 |
faenil | artemma, "journalctl -fa" if you want to see it updating live | 16:41 |
artemma | now I can see all the debug prints, but.. it's not autoupdatong, is it? | 16:41 |
artemma | aha | 16:41 |
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faenil | artemma, :) | 16:41 |
faenil | artemma, btw, I haven't keylogged you :P | 16:41 |
artemma | it's okay, faenil, you will learn | 16:42 |
artemma | keylogging remote IRC partners is difficult for many beginners | 16:42 |
faenil | lol | 16:42 |
* artemma off to porting HelloWorld Pro and Wikipedia to new SDK | 16:43 | |
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tortoisedoc_ | crap the #¤¤)&¤/#&"(¤#& | 16:45 |
tortoisedoc_ | >_< | 16:45 |
tortoisedoc_ | this SailfishApp:: wrapper is kindof problematic | 16:45 |
tortoisedoc_ | i cant seem to get even a new project compiled from scratch to run on the emulator! | 16:46 |
artemma | tortoisedoc_: tried HelloWorld Pro already? | 16:51 |
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artemma | it uses old template though (porting to new one right now), but it reimplements sailfishapp stuff manually | 16:51 |
tortoisedoc_ | it seems also just creating a QQuickView fails | 16:53 |
tortoisedoc_ | (not in an exception tho) | 16:53 |
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tortoisedoc_ | Unable to find dynamic linker breakpoint function. GDB will be unable to debug shared library initializers and track explicitly loaded dynamic code. | 16:55 |
tortoisedoc_ | Could not load shared library symbols for 47 libraries, e.g. /usr/lib/libsailfishapp.so.1. Use the "info sharedlibrary" command to see the complete listing. Do you need "set solib-search-path" or "set sysroot"? | 16:55 |
tortoisedoc_ | this is what I get | 16:55 |
tortoisedoc_ | when creating the QQuickView | 16:55 |
Jonni | x86 vs arm? rsync vs rpm deployment? | 16:57 |
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Jonni | as out of the box libsailfish has not been installed, so rsync will have problems, rpm pulls in the library | 16:58 |
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* artemma wonders why deployment by copying binaries is the default target at all. Seems to never work anyway | 17:00 | |
artemma | Suddenly I see QML console output in the emulator. Wow! | 17:01 |
artemma | aha, debug prints are shown in IDE only when running QtQuick tests (at I guess non-QML tests too). funny | 17:02 |
artemma | oh well, yet another reason to push further on test driven development front :) | 17:03 |
Jonni | well rsync is few seconds faster, so most likely thats why, but considering the problems, it might be better to have rpm as default and let advanced uses switch to rsync | 17:03 |
artemma | Jonni: I think so too as every second advice to beginners is to try running app via RPM for dependencies to be installed | 17:05 |
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artemma | it looks like not exactly all my logs go to journalctl :/ | 17:06 |
artemma | of course might be my app issue | 17:06 |
Jonni | you dont happen to have installed any custom messagefilters in your app to block the messages going to journalctl? | 17:06 |
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artemma | nope | 17:08 |
* artemma isn't really familiar with all the *nix tools anyway. Basics of find and grep is my level | 17:08 | |
artemma | wow! Changing .pro file didn't overwrite my .yaml anymore! I can't believe it was fixed! | 17:09 |
artemma | good | 17:09 |
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* artemma likes shadow building in new SDK, but.. I already tuned all .giignore, scripts and practices for non-shadowbuilds :) | 17:22 | |
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artemma | arrgh, lots of silica code, now uses __silica_applicationwindow_instance | 17:28 |
artemma | that apparently doesn't exist during test execution time even if I create ApplicationWindow | 17:29 |
artemma | shall I wait until this is instantiated? | 17:29 |
artemma | Tests actually run fine for now as __silica_applicationwindow_instance seems to be used only for setting colors and orientations, so it's ok if it fails, but earlier or later it will bite | 17:30 |
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artemma | does somebody know what __silica_applicationwindow_instance is and where/how it is set? I'd like to fake it reliably or to make sure it gets created for the tests | 17:31 |
artemma | aha, ApplicationWindow seems to define it.. why it's not usable from my test that is wrapped into ApplicationWindow? | 17:32 |
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artemma | No, QtC still overwrites my .yaml when imports .pro. sigh | 18:12 |
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tortoisedoc_ | Jonni : rpm & rsync | 18:21 |
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artemma | it's a pity sailshiapp CONFIG doesn't define DEPLOYMENT_PATH of any sort. /me doesn't like hardcoding /usr/share/$${TARGET} | 18:25 |
lbt | artemma: hmm | 18:25 |
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jake9xx | artemma: where would you place your qmls then? | 18:26 |
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artemma | jake9xx: it's fine that config helps me, but you always need a little more than default template | 18:26 |
artemma | I expected something like DEPLOYMENT_PATH = /usr/share/$$TARGET in sailfishapp.prf | 18:27 |
tortoisedoc_ | artemma : I agree | 18:27 |
artemma | actually, that's what I am adding to my .pro now :) | 18:27 |
tortoisedoc_ | but I believe sailfishapp is wip | 18:27 |
tortoisedoc_ | artemma : i think yaml works on INSTALL | 18:27 |
jake9xx | yes, there is already stuff in backlog :) | 18:28 |
tortoisedoc_ | (which imo is better than DEPLOYMENT_PATH) | 18:28 |
artemma | tortoisedoc_: ? | 18:28 |
tortoisedoc_ | artemma : yaml registers files coming from INSTALL | 18:28 |
artemma | jake9xx: I hope not. Every attempt to automate stuff via magic causes me lots of headache :( | 18:28 |
tortoisedoc_ | (qtcreator does) | 18:28 |
* artemma hates how Creator plugins constantly try corrupting his .yaml on every pro import and often on .pro modification | 18:29 | |
jake9xx | artemma: well... you know you dont _HAVE_TO_ use the libsailfishapp | 18:29 |
jake9xx | it's just provided for easy-to-use stuff. Feel free to instantiate your onn QQuickView | 18:29 |
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lbt | artemma: it should really be relative too | 18:30 |
artemma | I understand: plugin authors didn't think that simple templates needs subpackages, but that's why I like limiting the amount of magic. after first a couple of days everybody needs a little more than minimal stuff | 18:30 |
artemma | jake9xx, it's not like this. Instructions for replacing .cpp stuff exist, but sailfish config INSTALLS magic is never explained | 18:31 |
artemma | just look at the mailing list traffic where people try correcting icons | 18:31 |
jake9xx | thp: ^ | 18:31 |
lbt | there's an rsync method which deploys (as user) to /opt/sdk/%name/usr/{bin,share} | 18:31 |
lbt | which still works (at least 1310 worked) | 18:31 |
lbt | and is much quicker when you just hack on the qml | 18:31 |
lbt | mb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl -d Jolla_custom deploy --rsync | 18:31 |
artemma | you know. A quick-fix could actually be as simple as adding comments into template .pro that explain where the magic comes from | 18:32 |
jake9xx | lbt: yes, but it's deploy binaries mode, not rpm deployment | 18:32 |
artemma | would save many nerves me thinks | 18:32 |
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tortoisedoc_ | artemma : it is explained in the .pr | 18:32 |
tortoisedoc_ | *prf | 18:32 |
tortoisedoc_ | and | 18:32 |
lbt | jake9xx: OK - wasn't sure of the name | 18:33 |
lbt | jake9xx: I know it's WIP - what's the status of rsync now? | 18:33 |
tortoisedoc_ | artemm : contents of prf is explained here | 18:33 |
tortoisedoc_ | https://sailfishos.org/develop-packaging-apps.html | 18:33 |
artemma | FCK! .yaml got overwritten on Cmd-R (because it triggered saving .pro) -> wrong packaging -> packaging failed | 18:33 |
jake9xx | lbt: well it works like in 1310 also in device. In Laadunjärvi release the /opt/sdk permission change was delivered to developer mode package | 18:34 |
tortoisedoc_ | jake9xx : for me QQuickView creation fails on both rpm & rsync | 18:34 |
tortoisedoc_ | (on emulator) | 18:34 |
artemma | tortoisedoc_thanks, I didn't see it before. Yeah, this sort of instructions look good. I still believe link to it needs to be included into template's .pro | 18:34 |
lbt | jake9xx: OK - I've not updated yet as my VM has mods and I just wanted to do some hacking :) | 18:34 |
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tortoisedoc_ | artemma : that is actually not a bad idea *hints at thp* | 18:36 |
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jake9xx | tortoisedoc_: can you pastie your main.cpp ? | 18:38 |
jake9xx | tortoisedoc_: I can check the QQuickView part | 18:38 |
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jake9xx | artemma: why do you include sailfishapp.h when you don't use it? Have you removed it from yaml as well? | 18:42 |
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artemma | jake9xx: didn't notice that it needs to be removed I think | 18:42 |
artemma | pull requests are kindly welcome ;) | 18:42 |
artemma | for making more people collaborate and for limiting my work :) | 18:43 |
jake9xx | :) | 18:45 |
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nander | GL/gl.h : No such file or directory | 19:18 |
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nander | I tried to compile irrlicht on the sdk | 19:18 |
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nander | I probably need the opengl es version of irrlicht? | 19:20 |
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tortoisedoc_ | jake9xx : http://pastebin.com/XhfdV4W1 | 19:28 |
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tortoisedoc_ | nander : most likely yes | 19:29 |
tortoisedoc_ | as it is opengles :P | 19:29 |
tortoisedoc_ | (after all) | 19:29 |
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nander | I'm just gonna keep playing with SDL | 19:30 |
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* artemma updated HelloWorld Pro and Wikipedia to new SDK and pushed to harbour. Once they get approved, people will have new templates for basic and not so basic stuff | 20:00 | |
Nicd- | yaay | 20:00 |
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Pnuu | those will be handy | 20:20 |
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janmalte | i couldn't find a whatsapp client for sailfish on N9. I think there isn't any out yet? | 20:40 |
artemma | -bash: zypper: command not found | 20:46 |
artemma | Hmm. How do I uninstall my app then? | 20:46 |
Pnuu | pkcon uninstall packagename ? | 20:47 |
artemma | Command failed: Option 'uninstall' is not supported | 20:48 |
Nicd- | pkcon remove | 20:48 |
artemma | thx, helped | 20:49 |
Pnuu | Nicd-: thanks :-) | 20:49 |
artemma | funny that pkcon's --help-all doesn't list a single supported command :) | 20:49 |
Pnuu | artemma: yeah, I've been wondering the same | 20:50 |
Nicd- | artemma: just type pkcon | 20:50 |
Nicd- | I think | 20:50 |
Pnuu | that works, thanks again :-) | 20:50 |
artemma | indeed | 20:50 |
artemma | thanks | 20:50 |
Pnuu | but I'd consider that -h broken.. | 20:50 |
artemma | wow, help doesn't list commands, but no-arguments lists :) | 20:51 |
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edips | i couldnt install sailfishos sdk | 21:03 |
edips | on win7 | 21:03 |
edips | is there any exe file? | 21:04 |
Pnuu | http://jolla.cachefly.net/SailfishOSSDK/alpha/installers/SailfishOSSDK-Alpha-1312-Qt5-windows-offline.exe | 21:05 |
Pnuu | for future reference: https://sailfishos.org/ | 21:05 |
edips | thank you | 21:06 |
Pnuu | no prob :-) | 21:06 |
edips | : ) | 21:06 |
edips | I googled about installing sailfishos for android, but i couldnt find any rom for android | 21:07 |
edips | can we install sailfishos for android devices? | 21:08 |
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edips | if it is possible, sailfishos will be stronger | 21:10 |
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ottulo | edips: officially no, but some people have been testing | 21:13 |
ottulo | edips: it should become pretty easy to do in the future, though | 21:13 |
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edips | ottulo: i hope so, android is linux based | 21:18 |
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edips | take care | 21:45 |
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rdapps | hi | 22:04 |
rdapps | is there anyone online | 22:04 |
faenil | rdapps, I don't think the emulator has the android layer | 22:05 |
rdapps | oh thnx so it is not possible. | 22:05 |
jake9xx | yes, android run-time is not part of emulator | 22:11 |
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rdapps | thnx | 22:13 |
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rdapps | what about a proper sailfishos image ? | 22:17 |
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artemma | doh.. can't figure how SilicaGridView works. Anybody got an example? | 22:36 |
artemma | doh, my grid view lays out everything in one row for some reason | 22:43 |
artemma | ah, cellWidth/cellHeight again! | 22:49 |
* Aard just read http://wiki.maemo.org/Sailfish -- at the end, comment about stuff not showing up in gallery maybe beeing a tracker issue: it _is_ a tracker issue, tracker is (intentionally) not following symlinks | 23:01 | |
tbr | else you could easily put it in an endless loop | 23:03 |
Aard | (I tried to edit that, but I'm asked to solve silly mathematical questions) | 23:03 |
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FireFly | tbr: how so? It ought to be able to detect cycles (though I see why that might add unneeded complexity) | 23:55 |
tbr | yes it would need code to verify that | 23:56 |
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tbr | and if it doesn't have that it would go into a loop | 23:57 |
FireFly | Well, yeah | 23:57 |
tbr | tracker is not known for it's 'smart code' | 23:57 |
tbr | I wonder what happens if you use hard links or mount -o bind *eg* | 23:58 |
FireFly | I'm guessing hard links would be identified twice, but there isn't much to do about that, is there? | 23:58 |
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