Monday, 2013-12-23

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artemmaInterestingly a bug when deploying-redeploying my flashlight app caused torch to stay ON. Legally achieving same is impossible00:04
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artemmatuukkah: I merged your pull request about command line build instructions to HelloWorld Pro. Probably I won't have energy to advertise it tonight. Feel free to do it on your own00:16
artemmatuukkah: let the fame come to those who deserve it :)00:16
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Gillydoes anyone else have problems with Gallery not showing images?07:52
Gillyit claims theirw07:53
Gillywidth/height are 007:53
Gillyi can still make ambiances out of them though07:54
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Gillyalso a new picture i took with the camera shows correctly. so it might be just the pictures before last update not showing08:00
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coderusgood morning jolla08:12
coderusgood morning sailors08:12
coderusany Jolla owner awake?08:12
coderuscan you give me [ls /dev] otput please?08:15
Pnuujust a sec08:15
fluxit appears my program doesn't work under boosted/mapplauncherd. any suggestions what I might be doing wrong?-o08:17
fluxit just gives "Loading" for a moment, some CPU use and then the window closes08:17
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Jonniflux: start it from commandline and output should tell whats the problem08:21
fluxbut it works from command line08:22
fluxwell, there are some messages08:22
fluxsuch as "Module 'Sailfish.Silica' does not contain a module identifier directive - it cannot be protected from external registrations."08:23
Jonnithats normal08:23
Jonnihow do you start it from commandline?08:23
fluxI type in SensorView :)08:23
JonniI mean that start with invoker08:23
fluxok, right, that's the missing part08:23
coderusPnuu: thanks :)08:24
Jonniflux: invoker --single-instance --type=silica-qt5 /pathto/SensorView08:24
Pnuuflux: check what devel-su journalctl -fa  prints when starting up08:24
fluxjonni, "what():  Booster: Loading symbol 'main' failed: '/usr/bin/SensorView: undefined symbol: main'" - pretty sure it comes with main :)08:25
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fluxbut yeah, journalctl and starting the application says the same thing08:26
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fluxthe file has no symbols according to 'nm'08:28
fluxso perhaps something strips it a bit too well08:28
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fluxnah, doesn't start the full version either08:30
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coderusPnuu: can you test application on Jolla now?08:34
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Pnuuwill do08:36
coderusPnuu: clicking on icon should turn on LED flash08:36
coderusPnuu: if not dont delete app, i'll do some instructions for testing08:37
coderus[ ] direct link08:37
Pnuuloading.. and then closes08:38
coderusopen terminal08:38
coderusand test:08:38
coderusvideotest /dev/v4l-subdev1008:38
Pnuujust exits08:39
Pnuutrying /dev/v4l-subdev1008:40
coderusvideotest /dev/v4l-subdev9 test up to subdev008:40
Pnuuinvoker: Invoking execution: '/usr/bin/videotest'08:40
coderus*down to08:40
PnuuBoosted process (pid=32289) exited with status 008:40
coderusno invoker08:40
coderusits not silica08:40
coderusjust start binary08:40
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Pnuufor 7 I get "error opening device"08:42
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Pnuucoderus: none of them (`seq 10 -1 0`) turned on the flash08:44
coderusPnuu: oh, wait for new binary please08:44
Pnuusure :-)08:44
coderus[ ]08:45
coderus[ ]08:45
fluxah, I started using QtConcurrent recently. maybe I need to add it to the yaml file?08:46
Pnuucoderus: testing08:46
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fluxwell, just adding it to the yaml file PkgConfigBR: Qt5Concurrent did nothing, I suppose it only affects building08:47
Pnuucoderus: btw, should I do it directly from the phone? as I'm testing via ssh08:47
coderusno difference08:48
coderusyou doing as root or nemo?08:48
Pnuudidn't work08:48
coderustry with root08:48
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Pnuunope, nothing even with root08:50
fluxQ_DECL_EXPORT int main(..) worked, should've googled first :)08:51
fluxnot sure why it worked first without that?-o08:51
coderusPnuu: pkay, tell me, can Jolla keep torch on while video recording if camera application minimized?08:51
coderusflux: because you launched it wothout booster/invoker before that08:52
Pnuucoderus: it isn't possible to turn flash on when using video08:52
fluxcoderus, I have another program that works fine without it..08:52
coderusPnuu: video recording without flashlight? even in night?08:53
fluxeven this doesn't use it:
artemmaGuys, do you know if Harbour people are working today? Would be cool to have my Flashlight approved before Christmas08:53
Pnuucoderus: the only available choice is "no flash"08:53
fluxand surely it should work under booster?-o08:53
coderusflux: then you have no application type defined in desktop file08:53
fluxit says "Type=Application", is that wrong?08:53
fluxalso, X-Nemo-Application-Type=silica-qt508:54
coderusflux: X-Nemo-Application-Type=silica-qt508:54
artemmaPnuu: I seem to remember [a little] that flash while video just isn't implemented yet08:54
Pnuuartemma: yeah, seems so08:54
coderusartemma: can you start my test app while your flashlight app strobing? i'll share build soon08:55
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artemmaflux: HelloWorld Pro should follow Harbour FAQ regarding invoker and everything else. And I think it does (though not sure I verified it with the last faq version). If it doesn't, well, that would be a bug with a welcome pull request. FAQ should be a primary source of info me thinks08:56
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artemmacoderus: nope, I cannot, I turn flash off when you minimize app08:56
artemmathough we could try it the other way around with your app minimized and then have flashlight strobing if it helps you08:57
Pnuuartemma: try starting coderus' app with ssh?08:57
artemmawhat's the app?08:57
artemmaand why do you want to test it with flashlight?08:57
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artemmaIf you want to do something with Camera it could be tough.. I turn flashlight OFF on minimize, because controlling camera from two apps seems to crash whole phone as for now.08:58
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artemmaat least starting built-in camera while Flashlight is strobing is crashing the phone08:59
coderusartemma: oh, forgot you have no Jlla too :D08:59
artemmato my understnding it's reported to Jolla bug trackers by now (by Aard or Jonni iirc) and will be fixed at some point08:59
artemmacoderus: I have a device since yesterday :P08:59
coderusartemma: o_O09:00
artemmajust in time for my tomorrow SpB trip09:00
artemmacoderus: will test at some point later today, got to work09:00
coderusoh no, dont install this09:01
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Pnuucoderus: check09:01
mfulzis there some documentation about how to use conman ?09:02
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coderusPnuu: this:
coderusPnuu: you should start application with /dev/v4l-subdev10 and open camera and make photo with flash until its not closed09:03
coderusit testing camera parameters for intensity values09:04
coderusmaybe flash doesnt started when intensity not set09:04
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coderusoh, i can make better test case in next build :D09:04
Pnuucoderus: just took the photo and printed "indicator intensity: 34948 torch" and "intensity: 34948" few times09:05
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tortoisedoc_can anyone point me to the package which handles lock screen notification icons?09:10
tortoisedoc_or is that secret as well? :)09:10
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Stskeepsprobably lipstick-jolla-home09:11
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps : jolla-home sounds like closed source for now..09:12
tortoisedoc_I only saw colorful-home :P09:12
coderusPnuu: just start it with device path and it will log values only if its changed09:12
coderusPnuu: make some photos and check log if something was logged09:13
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coderusPnuu: test all devices until you get some results please09:13
Pnuucoderus: takes a while, visitors :-/09:13
coderusok +009:14
coderusartemma: ?09:14
Pnuuoh no, more guests09:16
artemmacoderus: I am not 100% sure, but I think only 100% flash ON is possible for now09:17
tortoisedoc_hmm; qt 5.0 debugger is not cross-dbg?09:18
tortoisedoc_what if I replace it with the old harmattan one?09:18
artemmacoderus: do you live in Saint-Petersburg by any chance BTW?09:18
coderusartemma: no chance09:19
coderusChelyabinsk :D09:19
* artemma goes to SpB for Christmas and NY09:19
coderusartemma: can you test my app?09:19
Pnuucoderus: did you find any meteorites?-)09:19
coderusPnuu: sure09:19
artemmacoderus: I need a link (for easy typing on device) and a short description as a teaser :)09:19
matt_1979Hi, I'm trying to deploy a shared library as part of my project. The compiler links quite happily but I'm not sure how I add the .so file to the RPM file. I know it needs to be installed into /usr/share/{projectname}/lib, however adding it OTHER_FILES as "lib/" or the yaml file always gives me "Fatal error: nothing provides needed by abc-0.1-1.armv7hl" when trying to run on my device. Any ideas?09:20
coderusstart it in terminal as: [videotest /dev/v4l-subdev10]09:21
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coderuskeep it working09:21
coderusand make some actions with camera flash. make photos, etc.09:21
coderusit will log if something changed with camera values09:21
coderusif nothing with dev10 test down to dev009:22
artemmaWasn't it possible to install RPMs from the Tranfers UI earlier? Or is there a setting for it? Kind'a sucks to type installation commands in terminal09:22
coderuscurl ?09:22
coderuscurl cant handle redirects09:23
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Pnuuartemma: pkcon install-local package.rpm09:24
artemmaPnuu: thx. I still seem to remember some jolla people installing from just transfer UI09:25
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artemmaarrgh, terminal keyboard misbehaves. Types not the characters I want09:26
coderusartemma: use landscape layout ;)09:26
artemmai must have entered some wrong mode09:27
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tortoisedoc_forgot harmattan gdb for device is python-based :/09:28
tortoisedoc_but hmm...09:29
artemmacoderus: so what's the point of test? What do you want to simulate-try-test?09:29
artemmathough doesn't matter since app doesn't start :) Shows "Loading" for a while and dies09:30
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coderus15:21 < coderus> start it in terminal as: [videotest /dev/v4l-subdev10]09:32
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps : what is your take, any chance to get the Harmattan GDB to work for MER as well=?09:32
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coderusartemma: keep it working09:33
artemmaah indeed09:33
coderusartemma: and make some photos with flash09:33
coderusit will log camera flash values09:33
coderus(if device correct)09:33
Pnuucoderus: 129100401 is the only value I get09:34
coderusPnuu: which one?09:34
artemmacoderus:error opening the device09:34
coderusartemma: test with 10 down to 0 devices09:34
coderusPnuu: which value?09:35
Stskeepstortoisedoc_: huh09:35
artemma9 works09:35
Pnuucoderus: all: "torch intensity", "indicator intensity" and "torch state"09:36
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coderusPnuu: its incorrect output09:36
coderustest other devices09:36
Stskeepstortoisedoc_: ?09:36
Pnuucoderus: same with 909:36
artemmacoderus: it showed same number 129100401 for all of then, and there were no changes while I was taking a photo and seeking for focus (both involved flash)09:37
Pnuucoderus: same values with all dev numbers09:37
Pnuuwith software version -609:39
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coderustest with this:
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Pnuuah, I forgot to devel-su for the previous test09:45
Pnuunow I get torch state: 1122133308, indicator intensity: 1074680544, torch intensity: 113, torch intensity: 12910040109:45
Pnuuwith the newest version09:45
Pnuuand taking pictures doesn't print new values09:45
Pnuuindicator intensity changes between devices09:46
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thesignalgood morning! is there a chance that today-submitted apps will make it into the harbour before christmas?09:49
coderusPnuu: you need to find device where taking picture changing values09:49
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Pnuucoderus: ok, will try again09:53
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Pnuunope, no changes09:55
ln-what's the password for devel-su?09:55
Yanielthe one you set in settings->developer mode09:55
ln-i've set nothing09:56
Stskeepsthen it's the one listed there09:56
ln-the ssh password? which i haven't enabled09:57
Yanielenable it then09:57
Yanielor be screwed :P09:57
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crevetorPING 1387793139 79016610:05
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jabbounethello all10:12
Yanielhi there10:12
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coderusPnuu: strange, but okay. will continue when me gets Jolla :D10:14
Pnuucoderus: it seems that it starts with minimal value (113) but changes to maximum before even taking the first image10:15
AardVenemo_N9: are you working on irc-chatter? I'm wondering if I should try to make our care person make irssi, or if he'll get another irc client on his device soon ;)10:15
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps: sorry, am away. I was thinking about possibility to get harmattan debugger to run instead of one used by Mer10:16
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps: but of course gdb is called over mer vm10:16
coderusPnuu: but you didnt get any different output on different devices, right>10:17
coderusthen values are incorrent10:17
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Pnuuthat's correct10:17
Stskeepstortoisedoc_: well, we have a much more modern gdb..10:17
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps: indeed, but it does not like running from win :P10:18
Pnuuoh, torch state and indicator intensity changed between devices10:18
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coderusPnuu: any device with torch state between 0 - 3?10:18
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps: I was just exploring possibilities for avoiding having to compile cross-gdb10:18
Stskeepstortoisedoc_: there's a cross-gdb in mer10:19
Pnuucoderus: yeah, all of them report those four lines10:19
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps: hmm but it is not used?10:19
Stskeepstortoisedoc_: not sure if sdk uses it10:19
Pnuucoderus: "torch state" and "indicator intensity" change between invocations, too10:19
Pnuueven with the same device number10:20
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps : ok, then I could "theoretically" replace the one of the sdk with it?10:20
tortoisedoc_(replace == make a symlink to other exe file)10:20
tortoisedoc_(or am I talking completely nonsense here now?)10:21
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coderusPnuu: any with torch state between 0 - 3?10:23
Pnuucoderus: no, all the values are large(tm)10:24
Pnuu1123239228 or so10:24
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Venemo_N9Aard, yes, I am working on irc chatter10:30
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coderusVenemo_N9: i need irssi port :)10:39
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coderustext copying not working in terminal :(10:43
Pnuuthere are other minor things in the fingerterm too10:44
FryeHave you set the drag mode to select?10:44
RaimFrye: select works, but using the Copy button does nothing.10:45
FryeYeah, I found it out myself now.10:46
FryeWhen I tried it again10:46
FryeI'm pretty sure it worked at some point10:46
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coderusneed to make patch :)10:59
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mfulzhow can I install an apk on my jolla?11:04
mfulzah forget it - it just didn't tell any status11:04
Pnuumfulz: apkd-install11:04
coderushow i can get my Jolla? :D11:06
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Waiteecoderus: living in eu?11:31
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coderusWaitee: no, russia :D11:39
Venemo_N9coderus, I don't know much about irssi11:39
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Waiteego get one from finland11:50
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tuukkahhey vegai, mudyc, got any sailfish project ideas?12:22
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tortoisedoc_putty proken12:42
tortoisedoc_as in *broken12:42
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olofkI'm so damn close to getting this QML-only build working in QT Creator. It builds and deploys the RPM just fine, but I can't make it run sailfish-qml <myappname> in the run step12:54
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olofkI've changed the step in the project run configuration, but it looks like it's trying to run it on my dev machine instead12:54
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mfulzdoes someone has the issue with some android apps, that they "think" they're not connected with the Internet, even if the connection is there?13:01
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tbrI've seen that sometimes. if you have many apps open in general, close some. if you don't, then restarting aliendalvik.service might help.13:02
Aardcoderus: come to finland? :p13:03
Aardcoderus: where in russia do you live?13:03
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FryeHmm, looks like I found a way to make maps app disable screensaver =)13:05
FryeAt least test app works perfectly :D13:05
tuukkaholofk, can i get the source code somewhere?13:07
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coderusAard: Chelyabinsk :p13:16
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Aardnot the best location to come to finland :)13:17
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Andy80when I compile a Sailfish project, even if I have the real device, do I jave to start the emulator anyway?13:18
Andy80or better, the "MerSDK VM"13:19
FryeBah, does not work on device13:19
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olofktuukkah: Sure thing. I'll put up a tgz on dropbox.13:36
olofkYou have to sign the NDA and agree to the patents for this top secret super advanced code of course ;)13:39
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Andy80anyone of you knows why Mer SDK tries to execute my ? (that is not Mer SDK related at all)13:43
Andy80I get this error: /home/mersdk/.bashrc:-1: error: line 6: /usr/local/bin/ No such file or directory13:43
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olofkahh.. wait a minute13:44
ElleoAndy80: presumably the mersdk uses python in someway13:45
olofkThe run configuration isn't the command to execue on the host, right? It's a path to a local script that should be run13:45
Andy80Elleo: ouch...13:45
Elleovirtualenv is a python thing for setting up self contained pythong environments13:45
Andy80Elleo: but why it tries to read my own configuration? Mer SDK runs inside its own VM13:46
tuukkahAndy80, mersdk uses your real home directory inside the virtual machine13:46
Elleooh, didn't notice it was in your bashrc13:46
Andy80tuukkah: uhm... this is not good.... how could I workaround this problem?13:46
tuukkah(i knew it was a bad idea all along...)13:47
Andy80note: I can't disable nor mess with my virtualenv config13:47
tuukkahAndy80, perhaps create a separate user account for running sailfish sdk?13:47
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Andy80tuukkah: uhm.... and executing QtCreator from inside that user? Something like: su sailuser qtcreator ?13:49
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Andy80I would like to avoid to fully login that user13:49
tuukkahAndy80, easiest might be ssh sailuser@localhost -X qrcreator13:49
Andy80tuukkah: but then I suspect it won't be able to read my project that is under /home/andrea/projects13:50
tuukkahwell, you could move that to the other user account too13:51
tuukkahi haven't hit the virtualenvwrapper issue as i've installed virtualenvwrapper system-wide (debian packaging)13:51
Andy80tuukkah: I'm on OSX at the moment13:52
tuukkahor you could edit your bashrc and put a condition around that line?13:52
tuukkahsomething like [ -f /usr/local/bin/ ] && source /usr/local/bin/virtualenvwrapper.sh13:54
Andy80I don't know.... I really did think it worked in a more isolated way... the virtualenv thing is one... but how can I know that I won't have other similar conflicts?13:54
Andy80tuukkah: [ -f means "if exixts" ?13:54
tuukkahAndy80, you can't. i have a conflict with a git prompt command. and of course .bash_history becomes a mess13:55
tuukkahAndy80, right13:55
Andy80tuukkah: what do you mean with .bash_history becomes a mess?13:56
tortoisedoc_why is my mer vm refusing my connection13:56
Andy80tortoisedoc: I had the same problem few minutes ago... I had to start/stop it many times13:56
Andy80but I don't know if it's related to my problem with virtualenv or not13:56
tuukkahAndy80, it will include commands from both the host and the virtual machine13:56
tortoisedoc_Andy80 : ok, in my case it is ssh, not qtcreator13:57
Andy80tuukkah: it sounds even more messy :/13:57
tortoisedoc_aand I know why13:57
tortoisedoc_my public key is missing from the authorized_keys :P13:57
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mfulztbr: sorry was on phone13:59
mfulz <tbr> I've seen that sometimes. if you have many apps open in general, close some. if you don't, then restarting aliendalvik.service might help. > How to restart aliendalvik.service?13:59
tuukkahAndy80, i understand they wanted access from vm to the sources where ever they are in the host home directory. but they could've put it somewhere else instead of as a home dir13:59
Andy80tuukkah: the most natural solution for me would have been to COPY the sources to the VM, then compile them etc....14:01
Andy80without copying the whole /home14:01
StskeepsAndy80: it doesn't copy, it uses shared folders14:01
tuukkahStskeeps, we know, we're discussing the issues that it creates14:02
tortoisedoc_Yee im  back in :D14:02
tuukkahmersdk really shouldn't execute ~/.bashrc or use ~/.bash_history14:03
mfulzHow can I restart the aliendalvik.service?14:03
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tortoisedoc_Stskeeps: is the cross-dbg on mer in the mer-tools?14:04
tbrmfulz: as root 'systemctl restart aliendalvik.service'14:04
Stskeepstortoisedoc_: should be in mer-cross or something like that14:05
tortoisedoc_hmm is it normal to be missing pkcon from the mer build engine but not zypper?14:06
coderuspkcon is end device tool like harmattan  pkgmgr14:10
tortoisedoc_thanks coderus14:10
tortoisedoc_harmattan pkgmrg? So dpkg was not the correct one? :P14:10
coderusand zypper for good guys14:10
coderuspkgmgrd is like pkcon. no root need.14:11
coderusdpkg like rpm14:11
coderusand apt like zypp14:11
tortoisedoc_yeah, I like the zypp14:12
tuukkaholofk, builds and runs with the command line tools at least14:12
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps: cross packages do not seem to have any gdb stuff included :/ (zypper se cross for me gives )14:12
Stskeepscross-armv7hl-gdb should exist14:14
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps : no packages found :/14:15
* tortoisedoc_ turns to google14:15
tortoisedoc_mandrake distro :P14:15
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tortoisedoc_maybe I do not want to go there14:16
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps :
tortoisedoc_got removed, it seems14:17
Andy80tuukkah: anyway... in the mean time I want to do a test with [ -f ] thing... but I really would like to find a way to isolate it better14:17
Stskeeps tortoisedoc_ you're on what sdk14:17
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps no im on alpha314:18
tuukkaholofk, the ide doesn't show the same build and run options as with a normal sailfish project14:18
olofktuukkah: Yeah, something is messed up with the run configurations14:19
olofkMaybe I should just regenerate the .pro.user file14:19
tuukkaholofk, but how about you set the executable as "ssh jolla sailfish-qml lovecalc" :-)14:19
olofktuukkah: That may actually work :)14:20
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps: sorry, I read "you're on that" instead of "you're on what" :P -> im on Latest Alpha (Alpha3?)14:20
Andy80ouch.... again the first problem.... does it happen only yo me that when I click on "Start SDK" icons it becomes gray, it waits for a while then It get back to green/start Mer SDK again?14:20
Andy80it's just like Mer VM wasn't able to start14:21
olofktuukkah: I think I got it now. The option to execute on a remote device disappears when I change the template from app to aux in the .pro file14:21
olofkBut I can't use app, since that requires me to have an c++ executable14:22
tuukkaholofk, perhaps it's possible to change either template to do what you want14:23
olofkI'm still aware that all this is completely unnecessary since I can just put back the damn c++ file, but that's no fun :)14:23
Andy80and now I get this: :-1: error: MerSDK: The remote host closed the connection14:23
olofktuukkah: Do you have any idea where to find the template sources?14:23
tortoisedoc_hmm but14:24
tortoisedoc_there is something on mer14:24
mfulzthanks restarting aliendalvik really helped14:24
tuukkaholofk, i know nothing about qmake14:24
tortoisedoc_(at least there seems to be?)14:24
mfulzis there a way for doing that wihtout develmode also?14:24
sunkanI don't have my jolla phone yet, is there a way to initiate a orientation change within the SailfishOS emulator? I mean like if the phone had been turned from portrait to landscape.14:25
coderussure. restart device.14:25
Stskeepsguys, who of you have 1) a TOH with a tag inside and 2) have tohd stopped?14:26
coderussunkan: there is gconr property fo 4hat14:26
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sunkancoderus: I guess it's /desktop/jolla/components/screen_rotation_angle right?14:30
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PnuuStskeeps: o/14:31
coderussunkan: right14:31
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coderusit will rotate your appwindow14:31
coderusbut only when it started14:31
coderusnot in runtime14:32
StskeepsPnuu: how does it help?14:32
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PnuuStskeeps: it has reduced the battery consumption to about 25 % (rough estimate)14:32
sunkancoderus: It says "Can't overwrite existing read-only value" :(14:33
attahAnyone know how to change ringtone (to the defeult one) but still have the "the first one" ambience?14:34
PnuuStskeeps: I'll check in the night how it compares, as before the phone lost ~20 % in 8 h of idle (mobile data on, no active connections)14:34
tortoisedoc_Pnuu, Stskeeps: stopping tohd gives 75% power saving?14:35
mike7b4_on_x230Anyone know if there is some kind of API to check what uniqueID the OTH Tag has?14:35
Pnuutortoisedoc_: so it seems14:36
Pnuutortoisedoc_: but that is just a guestimate, not a measurement :-)14:36
smokexgood word14:36
Pnuuone of the bestish14:37
tortoisedoc_Pnuu : how to stop tohd? sysctl?14:38
Pnuutortoisedoc_: check the comments14:39
Pnuuthere's also another option of making a tin foil helmet for the nfc sensor14:40
Skorpydid the tinfoil helmet today. just turned off tohd too14:40
Pnuuhmm, the ssh password resets if I close it and start again14:42
kirillHello. Does anybody know how to run qt5-widget project on sailfish? Tutorial programm "signal" from sdk doesn't run on emulator. Simple  QWidget*  w=new QWidget(); w->show(); in empty project crashed with exit code 134.14:42
tortoisedoc_Pnuu: thanks, I have just disabled it according to comment. Battery load is 27%, will see how fast it rises to 100%14:43
tortoisedoc_now on to my next bitch14:44
Pnuuthe 5 % in 12 h reported by Neil MacLeod in the comments sonds awsome14:44
tortoisedoc_ive been on a stantdard 25% for the last week :/14:45
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tuukkaholofk, found the TEMPLATE code in files in /home/mersdk/SailfishOS/mersdk/targets/*/usr/share/qt5/mkspecs/features/14:49
tuukkaholofk, there's also sailfishapp_qml.prf: Qt Feature file for QML-only Sailfish apps. Usage: CONFIG += sailfishapp_app14:51
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tuukkahbut perhaps it doesn't work as it sets "TEMPLATE = aux" too14:51
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WntPnuu: If you manually set the password it wont reset by it self14:56
PnuuWnt: well, it has14:56
Pnuuatleast it isn't the same as I set the last time14:56
artemmayou can also just copy-paste everything from prf template to your .pto14:57
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tuukkahartemma, those prf files look very mysterious15:01
artemmatuukkah: I think they are pretty much just pasted into your .pro15:01
coderusPnuu: keys based authorization rocks15:02
tuukkahartemma, but if they don't work and do what you expect, the situation is pretty much hopeless?15:02
coderusno need to enter passwords15:02
Pnuucoderus: yeah, haven't yet got bored enough to type for setting them up :-D15:03
artemmatuukkah: why? Depends on the problem. When harbour reqs were updated, I could not make CONFIG (i.e. its prf) work for HelloWorld Pro, so just copy-pasted stuff to .pro. With needed corrections15:03
kirillAnybody? How run qt5-widget project on sailfish?15:06
tuukkahartemma, this qmake stuff is not well-documented and doesn't seem to provide a clean abstraction. i can guess what this does (in default_post.prf) but it ain't pretty: contains(TEMPLATE, ".*(lib|app)"):CONFIG += have_target15:08
artemmayes, qmake is not the best documented thing ever. Sailfish prfs are quite easy though15:09
artemmatuukkah: what you mention looks like standard qmake syntax (not well enough documented possibly), not prf specific thing15:10
Pnuufor me the compilation seems overly complicated with .pro, .yaml and whatnot15:10
artemmato my understanding you can make prfs as complex or simple as any .pro. I haven't studied it though15:10 is standard Qt stuff, shall not be changed15:11
tuukkahartemma, you might be the right person to help olofk get this project to run from ide:
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Pnuuwhy does the lower version fail?15:18
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zuhPnuu: use , not ; I believe15:23
tortoisedoc_hmm 40 minutes from 27 to 40%15:23
tortoisedoc_not bad15:23
Pnuuzuh: thanks :-)15:23
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zuhPnuu: np :)15:24
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artemmaPnuu: ? olofk15:41
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Pnuuartemma: ?15:42
artemmaPnuu: sorry, wrong nick15:42
artemmatuukkah: ? olofk15:42
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tortoisedoc_can I do ./configure + make from mer?15:47
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tuukkahartemma, olofk here has been trying to create that qml project with no cpp part. the problem is getting qmake and ide to understand that there's no binary15:51
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artemmatuukkah: I know little about these things. If that is Jolla-specific I'd suggest looking at Spectacle docs. If there's nothing to compile, qmake can be optional and .yaml may use another builder (no idea which ones are available)15:53
artemmaif somebody really-really doesn't need anythign to compile, chances are his project can be "built" by just wrapping some dir into RPM15:53
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tuukkahartemma, indeed, then it's more about .yaml and ide than about qmake15:57
artemmaI would guess you could make qmake do just copying and nothing else too, just never cared to figure it out. If you want to mess with .pro (and that's probably a good idea - will keep you closer to mainline), I'd search for an appropriate .pro TEMPLATE15:58
artemmaor.. hmm.. actually if you just skip TEMPLATE and TARGET altogether and just use INSTALLS section, that might just work15:59
artemmanot sure if TARGET is mandatory15:59
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tuukkaholofk found the aux TEMPLATE, but then ide doesn't provide the run configuration for launching the app on the target device16:01
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tortoisedoc_: error: `target_alias' has changed since the previous run:16:05
tuukkahinteresting how mb2 has commands deploy and run as well16:06
lbttuukkah: they're to assist QtC16:08
lbtbut I use them from cli16:08
lbtmb2 make && mb2 -d Jolla deploy --rsync16:09
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tortoisedoc_lbt: any chance you might shed some light on my error above?16:11
lbtneed more context16:11
tortoisedoc_lbt: error: `target_alias' has changed since the previous run <- I get this when doing ./configure and make on the mersdk for building cross gdb16:11
lbtok ... that kind of work should be done in the Mer platform SDK16:12
tortoisedoc_lbt:  ./configure --target=armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi and then make16:12
tortoisedoc_hmm I see16:13
lbtin general the way to approach building tools like this is to use mb216:13
lbtor osc build16:13
lbtwhich build them in the context of an rpmbuild16:13
tortoisedoc_mb2 can work from sailfish mersdk?16:14
lbtyou probably want a dedicated mer-core target (though I see no reason the jolla one won't work)16:14
lbtwhat's the objective?16:14
lbtand can't you just install it ?16:15
lbtI thought we built it16:15
tortoisedoc_I've noticed something on obs yes16:15
tortoisedoc_but zypper is not happy16:15
tortoisedoc_(=does not list it)16:15
tortoisedoc_ltb : from above -> <tortoisedoc_> Stskeeps: cross packages do not seem to have any gdb stuff included :/ (zypper se cross for me gives )16:17
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lbt though16:18
tortoisedoc_lbt : woh16:19
lbtsudo ssu ar mer-cross16:19
tortoisedoc_lbt: so it was built, but in the wrong place16:19
lbtin the sdk16:19
lbtI'm not sure it was wrong16:19
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vegaituukkah: oh, hi16:20
tortoisedoc_void NetworkService::setPath(const QString&) "Method "GetProperties" with signature "" on interface "net.connman.Service" doesn't exist "16:20
vegaimudyc: oh, hi! :)16:21
lbttortoisedoc_: ssu/connman barfball16:21
lbtignore it16:21
tortoisedoc_barfball? :D16:22
Pnuuowl or cat version?16:23
lbtPnuu: this is messy enough to be feline16:23
lbthonestly I don't know - the repos are 'filtered' to prevent any internal stuff getting out and it's possible this has been blocked16:24
lbtif you're just hacking then pull it from the mer repos16:24
lbtthe SDK VM seems to be wiped on every update anyhow :/16:24
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tortoisedoc_lbt : ill curl it and cross my fingers :P16:25
lbtrpm -i <url>16:25
lbtas root16:25
tortoisedoc_aah tru :P16:25
lbtrpm is quite nice :)16:25
* lbt is a Debian guy too :D16:26
lbt"spec" on the other hand ... I still maintain that that sucks16:26
tortoisedoc_hmm I noticed there is actually /opt/cross on mersdk vm16:26
tortoisedoc_aah level 216:26
tortoisedoc_error: Failed dependencies:16:26
lbt> rpm -qf /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ar16:27
lbtso it should sit alongside16:27
Stskeepsi think this one might be my bad16:28
tortoisedoc_lbt : badf00d the last GLIBC problems16:29
tortoisedoc_I was running it in wrong putty :D16:29
Stskeepslbt: i don't seem to have cross-*-gdb in my _service based mer16:29
Stskeepswhich is the thing jolla sdk was branched off16:30
Stskeepslbt: i must have forgotten it16:30
tortoisedoc_lbt: rpm -i executes silently16:31
tortoisedoc_(as in no errors)16:31
tuukkaholofk, this works from mersdk: mb2 -d "SailfishOS Device" run sailfish-qml lovecalc16:32
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tortoisedoc_how to verify cross-gbd?16:33
tortoisedoc_its in /opt/cross :P16:34
lbtStskeeps: OK - although the release script does some moving about16:34
lbttortoisedoc_: if you get it to work please write it up; I'm expecting to see client/server gdb16:35
tortoisedoc_This GDB was configured as "--host=i486-meego-linux-gnu --target=armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi".16:35
tortoisedoc_how to configure debugger for target in mersdk?16:36
situIs there a way to see all theme icons supported on default theme of Sailfish ?16:36
tortoisedoc_some .xml file around?16:36
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situFound theme related stuff in  /usr/share/themes.16:39
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smokex/usr/share/ambience is interesting too16:44
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situHas anyone faced problems while setting cover icon from resources ?16:58
tuukkahtrying to find some information about mb2, i found this book:
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Pnuucan I invoke a system command (eg. a python script) directly from qml? or do I need a c++ stuff in between?17:04
Pnuuyeah, there's pyotherside, but it isn't yet in standard repository17:05
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fluxan application that needs sudo or suid binaries, is it going to have a chance in getting to the store?17:32
lbtflux: if an API is needed to do something, ask for it. In general 'root' is too powerful to grant to store apps17:35
lbtfor community apps we, as a community, may have a different set of rules17:35
Pnuuhmm, the c++ call seems straight forward enough, I'll go with that17:35
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fluxlbt, probably my software won't be ready for a while (or who knows) but it would need it for bluetooth low energy scanning17:44
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fluxsomething Jolla will probably later on provide via proper interfaces..17:44
lbtStskeeps: ^^ ... :)17:44
fluxI first thought of doing support for TI SensorTag, but actually the first step might be a bit more general BLE interaction/debugging tool :)17:45
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kaariHi, I have problem with mediaplayer getting album covers to show. Some albums their show ok, but some doesnt. It doesnt seem to care if it on sdcard or internal memory. Also I thought it indexis only from folders, but have one album with no pictures, but still it shows right cover for it. So is there some database where mediaplayer tries to fin covers?18:00
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Skorpyit could also get the cover from the mp3 files. some might have it in them18:06
Stskeepslbt: i have to wait until amccarthy is back from vacation18:06
lbtyup - just bt lescan stuff18:07
kaariOk, but then again I have albums with covers, but they dont show. Should the picture file named some specific?18:08
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Skorpyhave to say, I have no idea :P18:10
kaariOk, it's really not big deal, but just curious.18:10
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_miqu_Anybody know of a way to connect to a XMPP muc on Sailfish ATM? On N9 I could do it with some commandline "magic" cannot find link to that now though.18:12
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attahI feel a bit stupid.. Got google play installed, and seems to work.. but "Start Play Store and do updates." makes no sense what so ever (the do updates part), where do i look for that?18:28
mfulzis someone aware of a documentation for conman?18:29
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Turskiwasn't too hard to find...18:35
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tortoisedoc_lbt: scripts installed in C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\SailfishAlpha3\mer-sdk-tools\MerSDK\SailfishOS-armv7hl18:38
tortoisedoc_are they used at all?18:38
tortoisedoc_hmm doesnt seem to be the case18:41
mfulzTurski: omg the site was not working for me today morning but thanks18:44
Turskimfulz: ;)18:44
mfulzanyone knows which FSes are supported in the jolla? I've formatted a sdcard 32GB to ext4 but it's not mounted18:45
Turskimfulz: it's about script18:47
Turskimfulz: it passes options to mount that work only with vfat18:47
Turski(uid and gid)18:48
Turskiand mounting ext4 with those causes errors18:48
mfulzah so I've to format it to fat32 a.e.18:48
Turskiyou could modify that script ot create overriding udev rule that loads modified script18:48
Turskii wouldn't ever modify my sdcard to fat32...18:48
mfulzah great18:49
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mfulzwhere is this script located?18:50
mfulzah found it18:50
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Pnuuwhich helps18:50
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mfulzjep did it18:53
Turskimfulz: good18:53
Turskimfulz: haven't tried that myself yet since i have no card18:53
Turskiit will probably be replaced in next update, but i can also be fixed properly then18:54
mfulzdid someone know if there is a problem with android apps, when symlinking the sdcard folder to the mounted ext4 path?18:56
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mfulzok seems to work :D19:05
mfulzhm no the symlink is recreated on reboot19:06
mfulzwhere is /sdcard created?19:06
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Frye_Ok, I need a hand debugging an app that is running on bacground.19:28
Frye_How can I see what is going on. There really should be nothing but still there is some kind of socket access19:28
situIs it possible to show default cover (which shows screen of running application) with custom actioins ?19:29
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tortoisedoc_Frye_ : i think there are tools to inspect open ports / network traffic in linux19:30
tortoisedoc_for instance, in windows it's netstat19:30
Frye_There is absolutely no network access19:30
tortoisedoc_Frye_ : still there is some kind of socket access?19:30
Frye_I think it is badly behaving mouse area or related to that19:30
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tortoisedoc_how to list installed packages on device?19:33
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Pnuutortoisedoc_: pkcon19:44
Pnuudon't remember the switches, but the command will give them19:44
tortoisedoc_I wonder what this means now : Variant value is a QStringList but the property's value type is neither CompoundType or ListType19:48
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tortoisedoc_Pnuu : pkcon get-packages20:08
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tortoisedoc_and voila, gdb is baking in the cygwin oven ;)20:12
tortoisedoc_*owen also P20:12
* tortoisedoc_ goes for a snack20:12
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Frye_Argh, seems to be no way to run the debugger via qt creator.20:26
Frye_Any hints where to start with the tracking of those system calls.20:27
Frye_strace shows there's lots happening but nothing I can understand really20:27
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fluxfrye_, well, you can install gdb on the device20:28
fluxand then install the debug info and debug source packages20:28
Frye_Ok, new learning experience for me then.20:29
fluxit's maybe a bit steep :-)20:29
Frye_Never used gdb from command line as I'm no developer :D20:29
fluxwell, this is one command you're going to need: directory /usr/src/debug20:30
fluxltrace can be useful in addition to strace, if it's available20:30
Frye_luckily the issue is also on emulator so I don't need to bloat my phone20:31
fluxin gdb maybe these commands are enough: break filename.cpp:linenumber  and then just 'run' to hit the breakpoint. 'bt' shows backtrace, 'cont' resumes execution.20:31
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fluxfor the rest, read the excellent manual ;-)20:31
fluxoh, print variablename   and   watch variablename   are going to be useful20:32
Frye_well the program is really looking fine on the outside20:32
Frye_it's just doing something it should not when idle20:32
Frye_I just wonder what I need to shut down when backrounded =(20:33
fluxltrace might be helpful for that20:33
Frye_yeah, well without options it outputs nothing really20:33
Frye_so I'm reading it's man page atm20:33
fluxor in gdb, do 'run' and then put it to background, then ctrl-c in gdb and 'bt' to see what it's doing.. by luck, it's doing something :)20:34
fluxltrace should be pretty verbose by default.. unless threads are involved, it doesn't know those20:34
fluxthere is also perf available for jolla, which sees a lot of things20:34
fluxbut it needs a special kernel (from the repositories) and I don't dare trying it, in case it doesn't just work via pkcon install :)20:35
Frye_it did install yeah20:35
Frye_but does it work no idea =)20:35
Frye_I try the gdb20:35
fluxperf record programname does the recording, perf report gives you a, well, report20:35
fluxof perf record -p processid if you want to start it after starting the program20:35
flux(ctrl-c finishes)20:36
fluxnow you should be well armed to do all kinds of system diagnostics!20:36
fluxgo forth and may the gods of debugging be with you!20:36
Frye_gnnh, wife came in and told me to do something else.20:38
Frye_But I got the gdb installed20:38
Frye_now I need to get the debugging symbols to the emulator20:38
Frye_I though there was a shared directory, but maybe not20:38
tortoisedoc_Frye_: hah miny old lady went just to sleep  :P20:41
Frye_I'm waiting for that to happen here20:41
Frye_I got bt20:41
Frye_but not able to read it20:42
Frye_backtrace methinks20:42
Frye_in gdb20:42
fluxso it doesn't list function names?20:42
fluxyou're then missing appropriate debug symbols indeed20:42
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Frye_#15 0x6f1ded44 in QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /usr/lib/
Frye_output looks like that20:44
fluxoh, well that's about as good as it gets ;)20:44
fluxthe program has received an event and is processing it20:45
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fluxwell, maybe20:45
fluxit could also be waiting it. I can't really tell certain just from a function name.20:45
Frye_yeah, well it really should not wait anything20:45
fluxbut sounds more likely that it's processing an already-received event. look at the documentation :) (or source code)20:45
Frye_while active there is mouse area that is waiting for onClicked events20:46
fluxnot wait? programs are always waiting.20:46
Frye_yeah, while active that is what it should be waiting20:46
Frye_but when backgrounded it is also waiting for something20:46
fluxprograms are always waiting something, even in background20:47
fluxthey are waiting for the event that they are foregrounded20:47
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Frye_If that helps20:47
fluxbut waiting doesn't mean anything active20:47
Frye_this means 7% cpuload on device20:47
Frye_and 2% on emulator20:47
fluxthe backtrace mentions 'activateTimers'20:47
fluxmaybe you have a high-frequency timer running?20:47
Frye_Not that I know of20:48
Frye_at least I have not created one20:48
fluxmaybe you have a transition effect that is still going even if it's not animating anything?20:48
Frye_It might be internal to one of the qml components though20:48
fluxor for example a busy indicator20:48
fluxdunno if those know not to do anything when they're backgrounded, I would expect it.. but it's beta ;-)20:49
Frye_There are Behaviors on x & y20:49
Frye_with springanimation20:49
Frye_And that load only starts when I select new game20:49
Frye_right after launch there is nothing20:49
Frye_-> So when the load shows there has been springanimations20:50
fluxspringanimation sounds something that can keep on running forever without noticeable effects20:50
Frye_+ tons of other stuff I'm sure20:50
flux(due to rounding errors)20:50
fluxnoticeable visual effects that is20:50
Frye_Wonder if there is a way to kill it after specific time20:50
Frye_But that sounds also like something that might have highres timer20:50
fluxprobably only 1/60, so 7% sounds a bit high - unless the device is running in low hz, which it might be doing20:51
flux(1/60 Hz that is)20:51
flux(meh, 1/60 s interval wait, 60 Hz frequency)20:51
Frye_well there may be 13*22 springanimations active when the board is created20:51
fluxright, that might be something more20:52
Frye_Although they should be only for a very short time20:52
fluxtry disabling the animation altogether20:52
Frye_But if they stick around...20:52
fluxand see if it fixes it20:52
fluxwell, happy fixing20:54
fluxI'll try some sleeping20:54
artemmaWhy can't I ssh into my device anymore? :/20:54
artemmaon home wifi20:54
artemmayesterday qt creator was deploying over wifi just fine20:54
artemmais port still 2223 on a real device?20:54
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tortoisedoc_say I would like to detect lockstate device20:54
tortoisedoc_say I would like to detect device lock state20:55
fluxartemma, I just use port 22 on the real device..20:55
artemmajust found same in qt creator device settings20:56
flux2223 sounds like emulator20:56
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fluxbut, sleep->20:56
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artemmaCopied photos from /home/nemo/dropbox to /home/nemo/Pictures/myfolder -> photos app doesn't see them21:00
artemmado I have to copy files exactly to Camera or Jolla folder?21:01
artemmaOr do I need to kick indexer somehow?21:01
Yaniel~/Pictures should work fine21:01
artemmaah! I was too quick, pcan see photos in Photos21:01
artemmawas just confused seeing no albums21:01
Yanielyeah it might take a while to index21:02
artemmathere are probably no albums at all yet except for facebook ones21:02
Frye_Hmm, is there a way to disable all timers on a program while it is on background?21:03
Frye_As I really need 0 timers running when the app is not active21:03
Frye_I just need to enable them once activated21:03
Yanielpause then on the focuschanged event21:04
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Frye_ok, which component has that pause?21:04
Frye_is it for Page or something that Page or something else inherits21:04
Frye_I mean the full porperties list in the reference is quite empty :D21:05
Yanieltimers usually can be told to pause themselves?21:05
Frye_Well I do not instantiate any timer myself21:05
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Frye_So it is some other component that has them =(21:05
artemmacutespotify has setting for offlien sync quality, but I can't see the way to put playlist to offlien :/21:05
artemmaFrye_: is your friend21:06
Frye_thanks artemma21:06
tortoisedoc_cygwin only making 64bit exe's >_<21:07
tortoisedoc_evil cygwin21:07
Frye_Ah, yeah. That bit I know. But there is a timer running while the application is on background =(21:08
Frye_And I cannot seem to figure it out which timer and what triggers it21:08
artemmayou mean not your timer?21:08
artemmathat I don't know about then21:08
Frye_Yeah, I don't create a timer myself21:08
Frye_So something I have in the app has a timer21:09
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Frye_which keeps on running even when backgrounded =(21:09
artemmahow do you even know about it?21:09
Frye_because app was rejected from harbour because of it =)21:10
Frye_when there is only cover page active it still keeps on going on it's own business21:10
Frye_Although only thing it should be doing is waiting for being active again. And this drives me nuts atm21:10
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PeterParkhow can I add Cover Photos for my music collection?21:22
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Frye_Ok, I have narrowed it down.21:23
Frye_If I create dummy stones without any animations or state changes then there is no idle load21:23
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YanielPeterPark: embedding them in id3 tags or adding a cover.jpg file should work (is what I was told)21:30
Yanielbut it seems to be broken atm21:30
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PeterParkYaniel: Thx! atm means?21:32
Yanielat the moment21:32
YanielI tried a couple of days ago and it didn't work so I asked here21:32
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PeterParkYaniel: Thx again, so I try it before I copy all covers ..21:35
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Yanielthey probably won't show up21:36
Yanielbut maybe after the next update which should come soon anyway21:36
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Elleoarcean_: it's just not in the ui yet, it will be in one of the next few releases21:37
Elleoarcean_: (offline playlists for cutespotify)21:37
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edgarsholly crap21:51
jussiis that some new pop star? :P21:52
edgarsguys, you must make some update/patch/whatever to imrove battery life21:52
edgarsit's really terrible21:53
Venemostop tohd21:53
Turskiedgars: mask tohd21:53
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_miqu_Y took mine of charger when it was 75% loaded. Applied the workaround by stopping tohd.service. Now 9 hours later and battery only down to 64% with my normal usage.21:56
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Elleoedgars: devel-su; systemctl stop tohd.service21:56
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Elleothere is apparently a proper fix in the works, so you could just wait for that21:57
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Venemothis is great news: bluetooth audio doesn't stutter when I'm surfing the web on wifi22:07
raininjathere is sytemd?22:07
raininjaoh wait I am in #sailfishos22:08
Venemoraininja: Mer uses systemd yes22:08
raininjai am currently starting to hate harmattan22:08
raininjait has been 3 days.22:08
Venemo3 days since what?22:09
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edgarsand what is tohd?22:12
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PeterParksince the last update Gallery does not show Videos from my SDCard.. any workarounds? Media still shows the MP3s though..22:13
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raininjaVenemo: since I recieved my N922:14
Venemoraininja: how is that related to this channel?22:15
edgarsand about sdcard22:15
edgarsi cant get my photos :/22:15
raininjaVenemo: as i noted, i started this convo thinking I was in #harmattan22:15
Venemoah, sorry22:16
raininjai am trying to dualboot to sailfish, but having issues ssh'ing22:16
edgarswhen i connect phone to notebook, i do not see removable device22:16
raininjaso it is sort of relevant but I do not expect any support.  maybe commiseration :)22:16
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Turskiedgars: use sshfs ;)22:19
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Frye_Hmm, anyone here awake still23:38
Frye_I have a way to check if my application is active form the application window.23:39
Frye_However I would need to turn off a property on the initial page.23:39
Frye_Is there a way I can get a handle to the initial page when it is loaded?23:39
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jpnurmiFrye_: you could do it the other way around ie. access the window from the first page. it's accessible if you give it an id, thanks to qml scoping rules23:51
jpnurmiFrye_: alternatively you could just use
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Frye_But the onActiveChanged is only detected on the application page23:52
Frye_I think it's part of the application window23:52
Frye_Not the Page23:52
Frye_I mean I have a game that has particle system on the initial page23:53
Frye_And when the application window is backgrounded the onActiveChanged is called23:53
jpnurmiApplicationWindow has applicationActive property, which seems to be bound to Qt.application.active23:53
Frye_And I would need to set the game page particlesytem to paused23:53
Frye_Yeah, but can I somehow get the active changed signal to the initial page?23:54
jpnurmii would use "running:"23:54
jpnurmiyou can also use "running: window.applicationActive" if your ApplicationWindow instance has "id: window"23:55
Frye_Lets try23:55
Frye_ok, I think I have tried to make it too complex23:55
jpnurmi"running: applicationActive" without an id might even work, magical qml scope resolution :p23:55
Frye_I though I have to somehow catch the event of the status change and then modify the running parameter23:57
Frye_but yeah running: is all it takes23:57
Frye_Thanks a million23:57
jpnurminp :)23:57

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