| coderus | console.log("something happened") | 00:00 |
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| coderus | } | 00:00 |
| magegu | coderus: thanks, i cannot find the Output | 00:00 |
| coderus | in qt creator application output tab on the bottom | 00:00 |
| magegu | coderus: nothing in the IDE views or the logs ive checket so far | 00:00 |
| magegu | hm, weird | 00:00 |
| magegu | coderus: the app Output view will only show "Connecting to device..." | 00:02 |
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| coderus | magegu: something wrong with your configuration | 00:06 |
| MSameer | jake9xx: ^^^ | 00:07 |
| MSameer | isn't that a known issue? | 00:07 |
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| tanghus | Is it possible to disable SDK modifying the yaml file? It fuxxees up my CI | 04:24 |
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| coderus | tanghus: CI>? | 07:32 |
| tanghus | coderus: Continuos Integration. In this case more Continuos Translation :) | 07:33 |
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| tango_ | is there a way to read/write simple configuration files (.ini, .xml) from qml diectly? | 08:12 |
| coderus | tanghus: for xml there XmlListModel | 08:22 |
| coderus | for ini nothing in qml | 08:22 |
| coderus | tanghus: i'm just not building using qtc :) | 08:23 |
| coderus | sorry :D | 08:23 |
| tango_ | coderus: yeah but xmllistmodel only reads from xml files, I don't think it can write them too | 08:23 |
| coderus | tango_: for xml XmlListModel in QML, and nothing for ini. | 08:23 |
| coderus | yup | 08:23 |
| coderus | you need C++/Qt code | 08:24 |
| coderus | its QtXML | 08:25 |
| tango_ | which doesn't have qml bindings, I assume | 08:25 |
| coderus | and for ini files you can use QSettings. | 08:26 |
| coderus | QSettings settings("/path/to/test.ini", QSettings::IniFormat); | 08:26 |
| coderus | settings.beginGroup("TAG1"); | 08:26 |
| coderus | and so on | 08:26 |
| tango_ | ah, interesting | 08:27 |
| tango_ | yeah, it's for settings, so that will do | 08:27 |
| tango_ | oh wait, still c++ | 08:27 |
| tango_ | daaaaaaaaamn | 08:27 |
| coderus | sure | 08:27 |
| coderus | dont beware C++ | 08:27 |
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| coderus | you can make class and export it to qml easily | 08:28 |
| coderus | in a half of hour or even less | 08:28 |
| tango_ | coderus: I know, that's not the reason I'm trying to avoid c++ | 08:28 |
| coderus | lol | 08:28 |
| tango_ | coderus: it's just that my sdk setup doesn't work | 08:29 |
| coderus | if you want to avoid c++ you need to use qmlscene and not sailfishapp | 08:29 |
| tango_ | so I can code qml stuff directly on the phone and it works great | 08:29 |
| coderus | write support classes for xml and settings oncce and continue using qml | 08:29 |
| coderus | :) | 08:29 |
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| coderus | you can also build qmlplugin and import it to any qml you want | 08:33 |
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| coderus | is it the same connman with sailfish one? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Connman | 08:55 |
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| celeron55 | i can tell that it is because the first link on the page is already visited in my browser and i have only visited it's page before from some sailfish/nemo/mer pages 8) | 09:00 |
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| coderus | well, is there ready to get connmanctl then? | 09:02 |
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| Sviox | Someone suggested some days ago to use condition packagesExists(sailfishapp) in .pro file to make sailfish specific configurations, but I'm getting "not a recognized test function" error. Any ideas? | 09:39 |
| Andy80 | I'm trying to get rid of an old application template I created with an early version of the SDK but it looks like it's a blody mess :( | 09:49 |
| Andy80 | not only they switched from sailfishapplication (included in sources) to sailfishapp, but also the .pro/.pri included must be different | 09:50 |
| Andy80 | has anyone a complete app published somewhere, with the new template, where I can take example from? | 09:51 |
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| fk_lx | Andy80: I think the easiest way would be probably creating a new project in new SDK and either copy your stuff there or just use it as sth to copy from to your original project | 10:00 |
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| Andy80 | fk_lx: I've created a new project and I'm taking example from it, but I'm modifying the existing one I've. Of course I'm working on a different git branch, because at the moment nothing compiles :/ | 10:01 |
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| fk_lx | well just look carefully at all errors you get | 10:03 |
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| Andy80 | fk_lx: yes but I'm not expert at all of .pro stuff.... I'm getting tons of warnings and even errors in main.cpp | 10:10 |
| fk_lx | maybe some includes missing? | 10:10 |
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| Andy80 | fk_lx: I don't know... the fact is that the syntax has changed from sailfishapplication and sailfishapp | 10:11 |
| Andy80 | different methods also | 10:11 |
| Andy80 | if you give me a minute I can push the branch | 10:11 |
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| Andy80 | fk_lx: ok, I've pushed it here https://github.com/andreagrandi/sailsoma/tree/newtemplate | 10:14 |
| suy | Sviox: that works for me. And I copied from others. It has to work. Are you doing something different? | 10:14 |
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| Andy80 | 'going to grab some coffee... | 10:15 |
| suy | Andy80: can you paste the errors? | 10:15 |
| Andy80 | yes | 10:15 |
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| suy | In main, I think you lack the setSource call | 10:16 |
| Sviox | suy: does it work if you simply create helloworld and put that condition in there? Or does it require something to get it working? | 10:16 |
| suy | view->setSource(SailfishApp::pathTo("qml/foobar.qml")); | 10:17 |
| Andy80 | suy: here are the errors http://pastebin.com/i5a7SkUM | 10:17 |
| Andy80 | suy: yes I removed because it was not comiling anyway... | 10:17 |
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| suy | Sviox: but why are you using the condition for? I'm using it to set DEFINES+=Q_OS_SAILFISH, for example. Or for choosing different qml files. | 10:18 |
| suy | Andy80: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct QQmlContext' <<-- that :) | 10:19 |
| suy | Andy80: you removed it in the commit :) | 10:19 |
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| Andy80 | suy: am I missing an include? | 10:20 |
| suy | Andy80: yes, you removed #include <QQmlContext>, for example | 10:20 |
| Sviox | suy: I'm trying to add a way to #ifdef code so I can support Harmattan, Sailfish and desktop with single code base. | 10:20 |
| Sviox | And also, in .pro file to add correct files per platform | 10:20 |
| Andy80 | suy: right. Ok, now it compiles but I'm still getting tons of warnings. Let me commit one moment.... | 10:22 |
| suy | Sviox: that's what I'm doing too. But I don't get why you have something like "not a recognized test function", since packagesExist is standard qmake. | 10:22 |
| suy | Sviox: oh, I think I got it... a typo. :P | 10:22 |
| jake9xx | MSameer: referring to your q; yes | 10:22 |
| suy | Sviox: is packagesExist, not packagesExists :) | 10:22 |
| Andy80 | suy: do you notice any missing things in .pro file? Because as you can see http://pastebin.com/8frGrN9b it now compiles but I get many warnings | 10:25 |
| suy | Andy80: in your last commit you lack a QApplication :) | 10:26 |
| suy | SailfishApp::application(int, char *[]) to get the QGuiApplication * | 10:26 |
| Andy80 | suy: yes but.... | 10:27 |
| suy | every Qt app (well, almost) needs a QCoreApplication, or a subclass of it | 10:27 |
| Andy80 | I had this QScopedPointer<QGuiApplication> app(Sailfish::createApplication(argc, argv)); | 10:27 |
| suy | correct | 10:27 |
| Andy80 | yes but there is something I don't understand | 10:27 |
| Andy80 | suy: the example application I created had this: return SailfishApp::main(argc, argv); | 10:28 |
| Andy80 | I don't understand what the main does | 10:28 |
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| Andy80 | suy: because if you have the app you just call return app->exec(); | 10:28 |
| Andy80 | suy: while I'm calling show() because the comment said // To display the view, call "show()" (will show fullscreen on device). | 10:29 |
| Andy80 | I'm confused | 10:29 |
| suy | Yes, that initial template was quite... naive. I don't like it at all. It's for making a main() trivial if you only want to load a QML, which is not very usefull outside HelloWorld. | 10:29 |
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| suy | A more real world example is here: https://github.com/communi/communi-sailfish/blob/master/src/main.cpp | 10:29 |
| Andy80 | suy: let me see if I'm able to fix my main.cpp.... | 10:30 |
| suy | Normally, in Qt, you declare a QApplication on the stack. But I don't know why, for Sailfish, they want you to call SailfishApp::application(argc, argv), which returns a pointer. | 10:31 |
| suy | So you need to wrap it in a QScopedPointer to guard you from memory leaks. (assuming they use dynamic memory, which I don't know) | 10:32 |
| Andy80 | suy: just pushed the new main.cpp | 10:32 |
| suy | Andy80: seems right now. | 10:33 |
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| Andy80 | suy: yes.. I'm just getting those errors in Makefile | 10:34 |
| Andy80 | sorry... warning | 10:34 |
| Andy80 | warnings not errors | 10:34 |
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| suy | I get warnings on the rpmbuild too. If the application itself compiles, and works, and generates no warnings at runtime, ignore for now. | 10:35 |
| suy | Is more an issue for packaging, and in that I can't help you, since I've never done it yet. | 10:36 |
| Andy80 | suy: it compiles and run on the device. I've only tried the deploy as binary. I will try the deploy as rpm package now... | 10:37 |
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| Andy80 | uhm... the deployment with rpm doesn't work infact, I'm getting this File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/harbour-sailsoma | 10:45 |
| Andy80 | probably I'm missing something in the .pro | 10:45 |
| Andy80 | I tried to port everything from the .pri but it had some stuff that I can't find in other projects | 10:46 |
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| coderus | Sviox: isnt it packageExists and not packagesExists? | 11:02 |
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| suy | Yep, that's what I said... too late. I think I told him wrong the first time he asked. Sorry about that | 11:04 |
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| coderus | Andy80: you prting harmattan qmlapplicationviewer to sailfiish? | 11:08 |
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| Andy80 | coderus: uhm.... not exactly. I started from a pure SailfishOS project (even if created with an old SDK template) and I added .c and .qml and ported them... | 11:09 |
| Sviox | suy: Oh, nice catch :) | 11:09 |
| Andy80 | I'm getting this error when I create the rpm package http://pastebin.com/rJi80yAq and here is my .pro https://github.com/andreagrandi/sailsoma/blob/newtemplate/harbour-sailsoma.pro any idea how to fix it? | 11:10 |
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| coderus | show your yaml/spec first | 11:12 |
| coderus | remove qml and quick from QT += | 11:13 |
| coderus | btw, are you on last 1312? | 11:14 |
| Andy80 | coderus: the yaml is here https://github.com/andreagrandi/sailsoma/blob/newtemplate/rpm/harbour-sailsoma.yaml | 11:15 |
| Andy80 | coderus: yes, I'm | 11:15 |
| Andy80 | coderus: but as I told you I created the initial project with the first release of the SDK and now I want to port it to the latest template and get rid of that sailfishapplication folder.... | 11:15 |
| coderus | do clean, remove all makefiles, do clean build | 11:16 |
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| Sviox | I'm still trying to figure out the connections between .pro. yaml and .spec files (Debian system seems so much more convinient..). For example, if I simply want to add an icon file to the project, what should I do? | 11:17 |
| Andy80 | coderus: can I remove all the build-* folder ? Because it's not cleaned at all with Clean All | 11:18 |
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| coderus | Sviox: first add it to pro file as usual | 11:19 |
| coderus | yaml/spec just saying which files to include in which project | 11:19 |
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| coderus | its lite package.files in debian | 11:20 |
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| coderus | you can have multiple packages in spec and separate files of one project to different packages | 11:20 |
| coderus | thats it | 11:20 |
| coderus | Andy80: sure | 11:20 |
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| Andy80 | coderus: done everything you said, same error again: File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/harbour-sailsoma | 11:21 |
| suy | Sviox: As coderus said, the .pro file is the buildsystem. The yaml/spec are for bulding the package only. It's 2 phases. | 11:21 |
| Sviox | Can I still use the INSTALLS keyword and create my own group of files with certain install path? Will rpm build take those in? | 11:21 |
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| Sviox | I guess my confision comes from some files and locations in the Sailfish template being determined in the yaml/spec file while I'm used to only specify the INSTALLS on pro file and let debian packaging take care of including the correct files.. | 11:23 |
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| Sviox | For example, the [appname].png default icon isn't defined in the template hello world .pro file at all, which seems wrong. | 11:24 |
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| Sviox | Also, the .yaml file contains %{_datadir}/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/%{name}.png under files. That refers only to target path. If I had my icon under icons folder instead of root folder, the build would fail because of this. How do I determine the source file relative path? | 11:32 |
| Andy80 | one thing is sure: packaging and fixing templates and .pro errors should not take more time than actually coding the app :( | 11:32 |
| Sviox | Indeed | 11:33 |
| Sviox | I thought I had reached a solid understanding with the build system when I coded for Harmattan but this template and rpm packaging is really confusing ;) | 11:34 |
| Andy80 | another weak point is the totally lack of documentation | 11:37 |
| Andy80 | at least in QtCreator nothing is included | 11:37 |
| Andy80 | one has to digg around on github and look other people sources and guess things | 11:37 |
| Sviox | Lol, just what I'm doing now :) | 11:39 |
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| suy | Andy80: qmake documentation is included | 11:40 |
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| suy | what is not included is docs on the SailfishApp thing | 11:40 |
| suy | The header is the only documentation. | 11:40 |
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| Sviox | What on earth.. doesn't .yaml license fiels allow multi-line text? Building package failed with long(ish) multi-line text but passed when I removed all but first line | 11:42 |
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| Sviox | Hmm, looks like I can use the INSTALLS on .pro file | 11:48 |
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| Sviox | Makes things a lot easier | 11:48 |
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| Andy80 | it looks like I've fixed my problem.. it was a mix of .yaml and .pro settings... | 11:51 |
| Andy80 | now I've to properly test on the device | 11:51 |
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| Andy80 | it look like it works :) | 11:53 |
| Andy80 | having lunch now, see you later | 11:53 |
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| coderus | Sviox: you SHOULD use INSTALLS, othervise it will not be included in package ;) | 12:05 |
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| Andy80 | why, even if I have added the URL: section on my .yaml file, it's not parsed by QtC? https://github.com/andreagrandi/sailsoma/blob/newtemplate/rpm/harbour-sailsoma.yaml | 12:18 |
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| Andy80 | argh.... weird packaging/deploy problem... | 12:40 |
| Andy80 | I've completly removed my app from my device, uninstalling it. Then I deploy it again using rpm build. It's deployed etc.... BUT when I open the About, the version is 0.3.1 even if my source says 0.3.2 | 12:40 |
| Andy80 | I don't understand where it gets that old file from :( | 12:41 |
| Andy80 | I fear that probably I'm not deploying the qml files correctly and that my binary is using the old ones | 12:43 |
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| coderus | Released Mitakuuluu v0.1-18 with translations support. https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu | 12:46 |
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| Andy80 | uffffffff :( | 12:53 |
| Andy80 | I'm getting crazy with these damn .yaml and .pro :( | 12:53 |
| Andy80 | I did think it was fixed and it's not | 12:53 |
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| Morpog_ | coderus, translations don't get used | 13:22 |
| Morpog_ | Yes, I Quit Mitäkuuluu after setting German :D | 13:23 |
| thesignal | hi, i have added my application weeks ago. it has been accepted twice in the harbour, but it's still not showing up in the jolla store. i also wrote a email to dev-care 5 days ago, but haven't recived any answer. I think it might still be the package naming which prevents my app from showing up in the store, who does a correct name look like? my package name is: harbour-ohm-1.0.1-1.armv7hl.rpm | 13:26 |
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| Morpog_ | if it fails, they tell you why | 13:27 |
| thesignal | it doesn't fail Morpog_, it also says "PUBLISHED", it's already accepted | 13:28 |
| Morpog_ | then, it should pop up in store soon I guess | 13:28 |
| thesignal | it's published since over a week | 13:28 |
| thesignal | and it was already approved one month ago and didn't show up | 13:29 |
| Morpog_ | strange | 13:29 |
| thesignal | so i changed the package name and put it again to QA | 13:29 |
| Morpog_ | try to contact developer care | 13:29 |
| thesignal | i did already | 13:29 |
| thesignal | maybe they'll answer next week | 13:30 |
| thesignal | but it's really annoying | 13:30 |
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| Morpog_ | they had less personal due to holidays till 7th | 13:30 |
| thesignal | yeah i know | 13:31 |
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| Sviox | coderus: should I also add application binary to INSTALLS (i.e. target)? Because that seems to go into the rpm without any apparent command on the project file. | 13:45 |
| jpnurmi | Sviox: shouldn't be necessary if you have CONFIG += sailfishapp in your .pro file | 13:51 |
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| suy | Is there any convenience function in QML/JS to format text? Doing text: name + " (" + type + ")" is not pretty :) | 14:09 |
| suy | I've found for formatting dates only. | 14:09 |
| suy | Ah, String is extended to support .arg(), nice. | 14:10 |
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| coderus | My apologiez. Mitakuuluu v0.1-19 should fix localizations. | 14:14 |
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| coderus | suy: you can also use qsTr("Something %1 happened!").arg(checkIfGood(something) ? qsTr("good") : qsTr("bad")) | 14:16 |
| suy | coderus: yes. I've been coding lazily, and I haven't wrapped user strings in qsTr() yet. :) But that would return the String for free. | 14:17 |
| suy | Most of my strings aren't translatable anyway | 14:18 |
| Sviox | Is id based localization also supported by qml? | 14:18 |
| MSameer | qsTrId() is there IIRC | 14:18 |
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| MSameer | Sviox: qsTrId is available | 14:19 |
| MSameer | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qtquick-internationalization.html | 14:19 |
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| jake9xx | MSameer: the issue you referred y'day is related to ssh keys and their config in Mer SDK VM - lbt ought to know about it too. | 14:23 |
| MSameer | jake9xx: someone was asking. I just pinged you. I don't remember who asked :( | 14:24 |
| MSameer | jake9xx: but thanks for following up | 14:24 |
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| Sviox | MSameer: thanks | 14:32 |
| Sviox | Btw, where should I put by application files? On Harmattan, /opt/[packagename] was preferred what about on Sailfish? | 14:33 |
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| tango_ | /usr/share/{appname}/ | 14:39 |
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| suy | Sviox: check the faq: https://harbour.jolla.com/faq | 14:40 |
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| suy | (in case you want to comply with harbour, I assumed) | 14:40 |
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| Goran_ | are sailfish apps arm architecture binaries? Or some bytecode? | 14:46 |
| fk_lx | native sailfish apps are usually arm binaries | 14:46 |
| fk_lx | but you could have Python script for example | 14:47 |
| Goran_ | thx | 14:48 |
| fk_lx | Goran_: for apps development see sailfishos.org | 14:49 |
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| John24 | hello guys :) | 14:54 |
| John24 | would anyone happen to know how to pass variables between QML files? I got firstpage.qml as the main user interace and secondpage.qml as the page in which user enter connection data 'ip, port, password, usrname' and I want them to be passed back to firstpage.qml | 14:55 |
| John24 | how would I do it? I searched on google but I couldn't find anything really useful | 14:55 |
| suy | John24: through properties. | 14:55 |
| suy | something like pageStack.addPage("secondpage.qml", {foo: bar}) | 14:56 |
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| John24 | i see i assume {foo: bar}) is foo the variable name and bar is the value? | 14:57 |
| khertan | but linking to python aren"t allowed for Harbour (currently) | 14:58 |
| suy | John24: yes. See the docs for PageStack, for example. | 14:58 |
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| John24 | why thank you kind sir I shall read about PageStack now! | 14:59 |
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| John24 | suy thank you it all works now, a user can choose an ip and port and so on :) | 15:12 |
| John24 | I got another question, how do we show messages to users? | 15:12 |
| John24 | I mean like message popups | 15:13 |
| MSameer | banners you mean? | 15:13 |
| MSameer | that component does not exist | 15:13 |
| John24 | yes I think so | 15:13 |
| MSameer | i am sure others know how but I personally don't know | 15:13 |
| John24 | so how is the sailfishOS is using it | 15:13 |
| John24 | it can't be system exclusive | 15:13 |
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| MSameer | i think there is a way via libmlite but I don't know | 15:15 |
| John24 | thanks I'll need to look into it | 15:15 |
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| Sviox | It seems like the FAQ is disallowing usage of libarchive even though it is available on the emulator and has a stable API. Does this really mean my app wouldn't get accepted because of the dependency? Also, what should I use instead of libarchive? | 15:17 |
| proyvind | direct apis to compressors/archivers? | 15:17 |
| proyvind | udnno | 15:17 |
| proyvind | my wild guess | 15:17 |
| mohjive | hello | 15:17 |
| mohjive | tried to build an imported project, cutespotify, but I get this "Package libresourceqt5 not found" - isn't lib resource installed with the sdk? | 15:18 |
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| John24 | having issues with pagestack | 15:34 |
| John24 | if I use push it all works well but it obviously add a page to the stack which I don't want, so i tried to use pop but I get errors | 15:35 |
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| John24 | my call: pageStack.pop(Qt.resolvedUrl("FirstPage.qml"), {ip: tfIP.text, port: tfPORT.text, username: tfUSR.text, password: tfPASS.text}) | 15:35 |
| John24 | error: Error: Cannot pop to invalid target page which is not present on the stack | 15:35 |
| jpnurmi | John24: what do you want to do? a wild guess... perhaps replace() does what you want? | 15:36 |
| John24 | on the first page i use dfefault pagestack call with pulley menu | 15:37 |
| John24 | PullDownMenu { MenuItem { text: "Connect" onClicked: pageStack.push(Qt.resolvedUrl("SecondPage.qml")) } } | 15:37 |
| John24 | so second page is placed on the stack | 15:37 |
| John24 | I assume that once your done with second page you use pop to remove it | 15:37 |
| Tumeez | Wnglish language iis mysterious boxes in MitäKuuluu settings? | 15:37 |
| Tumeez | English* | 15:38 |
| John24 | replace only replaces the current stack wich is secondpage.qmp but does not return to firstpage | 15:39 |
| John24 | which is weird | 15:39 |
| jpnurmi | John24: if you want to go back to the first page, yes, pop() would do that. but the first page is there already in the stack so you shouldn't pass Qt.resolvedUrl(...) | 15:39 |
| John24 | oh didn't know that, so just leave my properties? | 15:40 |
| suy | John24: just pop(), without parameters. Read the docs ;) | 15:40 |
| jpnurmi | just pageStack.pop() will remove the top most page from the stack | 15:40 |
| John24 | well I want to send parameters from second page to first page | 15:41 |
| suy | That's a different issue. Use something like myFirstPage.someProperty=someValue, and then pop() | 15:42 |
| jpnurmi | the second page almost sounds like a dialog then? you could use Dialog and implement the onAccepted handler | 15:42 |
| John24 | i'll show you now guys :) give me a second | 15:43 |
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| Morpog_ | coderus, I just updated german translation to fix a few things like too long translated strings. Would be great if next update could include it. | 15:44 |
| John24 | page one : http://i.imgur.com/TW7DMDZ.png | 15:45 |
| John24 | page two : http://i.imgur.com/IyzGQsQ.png | 15:45 |
| Morpog_ | client :D | 15:46 |
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| John24 | so you guys think i am doing it wrong by having a second page for connection settings? | 15:47 |
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| Morpog_ | no, looks fine | 15:48 |
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| Andy80 | jpnurmi: ping | 15:49 |
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| John24 | ahh just using pageStack.pop() gives: ReferenceError: FirstPage is not defined | 15:50 |
| jpnurmi | John24: i'd make the second page a dialog. if the user changes his mind, s/he can cancel connecting | 15:50 |
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| jpnurmi | something like "Component { id: myDialog; MyDialog { onAccepted: ... } }" and "pageStack.push(myDialog)" on the first page. MyDialog provides the necessary properties to get all connection parameters | 15:51 |
| jpnurmi | Andy80: pong | 15:51 |
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| Sviox | Why does this "desktop-file-install" command keep getting back to .spec file? It fails on me with "No such file or directory" at the moment. How should the dekstop file be defined to it? | 15:53 |
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| Sviox | Anyone? | 16:01 |
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| John24 | is there any other way to pass variables withouth using pagestack? | 16:04 |
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| Sviox | from where to where? | 16:05 |
| John24 | SecondPage.qml to FirstPage.qml | 16:05 |
| John24 | uset types in a value in SecondPage.qml I want that value then passed and overdide variable in FirstPage.qml | 16:06 |
| John24 | *user | 16:06 |
| John24 | FirstPage.ip = tfIP.text does not work | 16:06 |
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| John24 | in firstpage.qml I got property var ip : "" | 16:07 |
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| Sviox | I would store any data to a QObject derived object added to declarative context | 16:12 |
| John24 | Sviox that just shot past me, I am quite new and still learning | 16:14 |
| Sviox | After adding the context, you can just myContext.setSomeVariables(x,y,z) | 16:14 |
| Sviox | Me too :) | 16:14 |
| John24 | as in QtObject { id: attributes property string name property int size property variant attributes } | 16:16 |
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| Sviox | Umm, no. I mean, try to create C++ QObject based storage. There might be an easier way, but I'm also quite new to QML. | 16:17 |
| John24 | mixing C++ with QML is bit too much for me atm, I am trying to get used to QML before mixing the both | 16:18 |
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| Sviox | So your not coming from C++/Qt background? | 16:19 |
| Sviox | If that's the case, then there must be easier approach with pure QML. I'm all C++/Qt and not so much into QML ;) | 16:19 |
| coderus | Morpog_: xure, i will pull translations for every update :) | 16:21 |
| John24 | No firs week using Qt creator and all | 16:21 |
| John24 | but I think I found the solution with pagestack Jolla added aditional fucntionality not listed by Qt docs: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-pagestack.html#pushAttached-method | 16:22 |
| John24 | one of them is bound to have what I want | 16:22 |
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| Andy80 | I want to start adding a changelog to my app... is there any template I can follow? I mean... is there any particular convention like the name of the file (CHANGELOG / ChangeLog / chengelog.txt ?!) or the format inside? | 16:25 |
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| John24 | https://together.jolla.com/question/9598/allow-app-changelogs-in-jolla-storeharbour/ | 16:27 |
| Andy80 | John24: yes.... a good list of "we should do...we should write..." but no solutions :D | 16:29 |
| Andy80 | a bit anarchic situation :P | 16:29 |
| Sviox | Would someone please tell me how to get rid of packaging error "Error on file "/home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/applications/*.desktop": No such file or directory" given by desktop-file-install. I'm about to throw my computer out of the window here as the next solution. This just broke down - it worked a short while ago - and I have no idea what's causing this. | 16:29 |
| artemma | Sviox: you can ssh to Mer build machine and see if the *.desktop is actually deployed where packaging expects it to be | 16:30 |
| artemma | but it's quite obvious that it doesn't | 16:30 |
| artemma | so it's either deployed to wrong place or not deployed at all | 16:31 |
| artemma | I'd check INSTALLS in your .pro | 16:31 |
| jpnurmi | Sviox: have you been adding harbour-prefixes and that broke it? | 16:31 |
| artemma | and also part of INSTALLS that's generated by sailfishapp.prf from qt libs | 16:31 |
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| Sviox | It is on the INSTALLS, but I'm not sure if (according to compile log) it's actually installed.. | 16:33 |
| Sviox | artemma: How can I check that? | 16:33 |
| artemma | Sviox: I would still ssh to mer machine first just in case | 16:34 |
| Andy80 | Sviox: I can tell you that after having changed all my sources, .pro, .yaml to follow the "expected" template, I don't even need the INSTALL section anymore | 16:34 |
| celeron55 | John24: you can refer to the previous page on the stack (the page on the "left side") by pageStack.previousPage() | 16:34 |
| Andy80 | .desktop included | 16:34 |
| artemma | to see if something wrong named is deployed somewhere around | 16:34 |
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| celeron55 | if you have Page{property string foo: "bar"} on the first page, you can do pageStack.previousPage().foo = "baz" on the new page | 16:35 |
| artemma | Sviox: search for ssh at https://sailfishos.org/develop-faq.html | 16:35 |
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| Sviox | How can I SSH the MER machine? It says I need public key instead of accepting username and password.. I'm using windows. | 16:35 |
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| Sviox | The emulator side is easy to connect to (as nemo user) | 16:36 |
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| artemma | Sviox: search for ssh at https://sailfishos.org/develop-faq.html | 16:37 |
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| Sviox | Andy80: Yes, I'm aware. I Started with the template, but eventually moved app code to a sub project where the desktop file is also located. | 16:38 |
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| artemma | Sviox: you should have started with HelloWorld Pro wizard for proper naming and project structure ;P | 16:39 |
| Sviox | And as I said, it worked fine just a few hours ago.. Not sure what I did to break it.. | 16:39 |
| artemma | (created by me) | 16:39 |
| Sviox | artemma: I did! | 16:39 |
| Andy80 | Sviox: I fought the template and the template won \m/ | 16:39 |
| Sviox | :) | 16:39 |
| Andy80 | :D | 16:39 |
| artemma | Sviox: I am not 100% sure that build cleans all the old stuff in mer machine. It should, but maybe that particular .desktop stayed.. | 16:40 |
| Sviox | The default structure just isn't for me because I need multiple binaries, lot's of extra files and ability to build for Harmattan and desktop. | 16:40 |
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| John24 | seems like I won't be able to pass variables between qml pages as pop does not allow properties | 16:45 |
| John24 | is there any other way to pass variables between qml files? | 16:45 |
| Sviox | artemma: That's a very likely scenario that the "old files" was left on Mer and my previous deployment worked by luck. | 16:45 |
| artemma | Sviox: well, there are only a couple of steps you need to examine anyway | 16:46 |
| artemma | check what gets to Mer and what's generated by INSTALLS | 16:46 |
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| artemma | Sviox: as a quick trial you can add your .desktop to INSTALLS manually (it should be picked up by sailfishapp.prf scripts, but just for trial add it manually) | 16:47 |
| Sviox | I did | 16:47 |
| Andy80 | Sviox: the old files problem happened also to me... I noticed that the new QML were not deployed because I had changed the About and I was seeing the old one | 16:48 |
| Sviox | I mean, I've been trying that now. | 16:48 |
| Sviox | --> Dinner. Maybe I'll catch some new ideas. | 16:50 |
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| Gelb | hi. can i run android apps in the sailfish os emulator? i would like to see how/if my android app runs on sailfish os. | 16:53 |
| artemma | Sviox: sorry, but there really is just two (okay maybe three) steps to verify :) Check files in Mer machine, check what INSTALLS generate (you can see in makefile) | 16:53 |
| Morpog_ | no you can't | 16:53 |
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| Gelb | okay, so i just have to hope that it works... ;-( | 16:53 |
| Gelb | thanks. | 16:54 |
| leinir | Gelb: Well, you can always send it to some people - or in case you've got it on the amazon store, most people with a device would be able to test :) | 16:54 |
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| Gelb | leinir: amazon store? i thought the device is shipped with that yandex store. i uploaded it there. | 16:55 |
| leinir | it ships with yandex, but the amazon store works just fine as well, just need to download it :) | 16:55 |
| leinir | But yeah, if it's already on yandex too, then you should be good :) | 16:55 |
| Gelb | i see, good. my app is called "EveryWiki", if anyone is interested in testing. | 16:56 |
| artemma | Anybody who knows something about LGPL here? I want to reuse a few files from lipstick code (LGPL) while keeping my code closed. I will use it as a library-like way (so LGPL should be fine), but not exactly as a library, just as few source code files. Any thoughts? | 16:56 |
| leinir | artemma: Thoughts - if it's linked into the same binary, then no, that isn't fine | 16:57 |
| artemma | leinir: I've heard of this point of view, but the only profound discussion on a topic I was able to locate underlines several times that license says nothing about linking. | 16:57 |
| leinir | artemma: if it is a separate .so, then it /would/ be ok, as long as everything you do to that lipstick code is public and also lgpl... ianal, but that's what i understand :) | 16:57 |
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| artemma | sure, my modifications to LGPL code should be public, I don't want to disclose the rest of the code only | 16:58 |
| leinir | artemma: ok, philosophical and direct - if the end user is able to rebuild with those files changed, then you are legally allowed to do it | 16:58 |
| krig | artemma: it has to be relinkable, so just including some source files is not okay.. they have to be a separate library | 16:58 |
| leinir | what krig said | 16:58 |
| artemma | okay.. so it needs to be somehow packaged in a reusable way.. | 16:59 |
| leinir | Technically speaking, if you make the object files available, then you are legally ok... but then you're also being a male appendage ;) | 16:59 |
| artemma | I don't mind sharing my changes to LGPL code at all - I am basing on that work after all. I don't want to have to disclose the rest of the code | 17:00 |
| leinir | (basically it comes under the heading don't be a dick - legally it'd be ok, but you're making it enormously difficult for the end user to do what they should legally be able to do) | 17:00 |
| krig | i'm not a lawyer, but i don't think making object files available is enough sadly, the final binary has to be relinkable | 17:00 |
| * artemma hopes one day somebody actually does generate a working example with own library linked in a harbour-acceptable way. It's sort of weird to have limitations in harbour FAQ without a single example of how to follow them | 17:00 | |
| artemma | that would solve my issue perfectly, I'd just package LGPL bits into a stand alone lib | 17:01 |
| krig | artemma: agreed, same thing with example apps that follow the specs and use the features of the phone.. would be very helpful. | 17:01 |
| celeron55 | John24: did you see what i answered? | 17:02 |
| John24 | sorry just came back to the page was reading Qt forums I will check now | 17:03 |
| John24 | ok trying it now celeron55 | 17:06 |
| smokex | why not just include some headers so the object files can be used with precompiled binaries | 17:07 |
| smokex | as precompiled binaries | 17:07 |
| artemma | Go vote for getting examples on adding libraries to your project - https://together.jolla.com/question/10713/create-the-example-of-including-your-own-library-and-standard-qt-module-in-a-harbour-compatible-way/ | 17:08 |
| artemma | if it gets enough votes, somebody will want to become famous and create some. Hopefully | 17:08 |
| Andy80 | just voted | 17:08 |
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| Andy80 | documentation and examples, in general, must be improved, but I suspect they're perfectly aware of this, they just don't have enough people to work on these things or they had other priorities until now | 17:10 |
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| John24 | @celeron55 I could kiss you right now :D works like a charm | 17:12 |
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| Sviox | Okay, I got on with the dekstop file - it wasn't installed because of duplicate field (blind me...). But now the same problem exists with QML files.. | 17:15 |
| artemma | Sviox: duplicate field? | 17:16 |
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| Sviox | yes, in .desktop. Never would have thought that would have had any effect on anything... | 17:18 |
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| Sviox | I had copied X-Nemo-Application-Type from the faq (with other fields) without realizing it was already in the template generated file. | 17:18 |
| artemma | strange.. .desktop contents should be procesed at runtime only | 17:18 |
| Sviox | Indeed! | 17:20 |
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| Sviox | It gives this output after the "install -m ..." ones on the log: "/home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/applications/[appname].desktop: error: file contains multiple keys named "X-Nemo-Application-Type" in group "Desktop Entry"" | 17:22 |
| Sviox | Easy to miss since it's not highlighted in any way and the error is not at the beginning of the line. But that's the reason why desktop-file-install failes a bit later. | 17:24 |
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| artemma | ah, so it's RPM installation that detected wrong .desktop format | 17:25 |
| Sviox | Yes | 17:27 |
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| Sviox | Now everything else workd fine but RPM creation says "error: File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/X" where X is the name of my subproject. | 17:33 |
| Sviox | Has anyone actually managed to deploy content using Qt subdirs template? | 17:34 |
| smokex | I prefer statically linking | 17:34 |
| artemma | Sviox: you told that you checked HW Pro template. It has exactly that ;) | 17:36 |
| artemma | and app is in harbour | 17:36 |
| Sviox | HW *PRO* template? What's that? | 17:36 |
| artemma | Sviox: your .yaml/.spec scripts probably mention these non-existent files | 17:36 |
| artemma | HelloWorld pro | 17:36 |
| artemma | https://github.com/amarchen/helloworld-pro-sailfish | 17:37 |
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| Sviox | artemma: seems like the .yaml file DID have reference to the the subproject.. nice | 17:39 |
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| Sviox | Triupm! Mer 0, Sviox 1. Now the package is created and deployed successfully. | 17:40 |
| Sviox | Triumph more like.. | 17:40 |
| artemma | Sviox: congrats! (y) | 17:40 |
| artemma | what's the app about? | 17:40 |
| Sviox | Trying to bring http://store.ovi.com/content/302071 into Sailfish world | 17:41 |
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| smokex | oh nice | 17:44 |
| Sviox | Building Harmattan version was a lot easier with 3 years of doing it's platform utilities as my day job giving a good idea on how things work :P | 17:45 |
| artemma | Sviox: good luck with it! | 17:47 |
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| Sviox | I did the MeeGo version with zero lines of QML so that's the number 1 reason giving me headaches at the moment. Webkit API of the QML webview is just so very limited. | 17:49 |
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| smokex | isn't Qt currently replacing webkit on their dev branch? | 17:51 |
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| Sviox | Yes, they are | 17:51 |
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| Sviox | And it would be interesting to hear if Sailfish will be moving to the new version and also what kind of APIs that have.. | 17:52 |
| smokex | It will be half way through this year before 5.3 is released probably | 17:52 |
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| suy | I soooo want Sailfish to support 5.2 ASAP. Even simple things like the documentation has really nice improvements. I spent 15 minutes wondering if QQuickItem is a QObject. It is, but the 5.1 docs don't say so. Nor they show any hint about it. No connect(), objectName(), etc. | 18:19 |
| valdur55 | Damn.. i changed bunch of stuff and nothing really changed | 18:20 |
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| w00t | suy: I have to ask.. but where exactly were you looking? (http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtquick/qquickitem.html - right near the top: "Inherits: QObject and QQmlParserStatus.") | 18:48 |
| w00t | and class inheritance has been at the same place (the top of the class docs) for.. more or less as long as I can remember :p | 18:49 |
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| jpnurmi | anyone up for taking a couple of screenshots for me? | 18:57 |
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| suy | w00t: not in the shipped docs :-( | 19:00 |
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| artemma | jpnurmi: I can do screenshots | 19:00 |
| jpnurmi | artemma: https://github.com/jpnurmi/MeeTeeVee/tree/sailfish - i can also send an rpm if you prefer? | 19:00 |
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| artemma | rpm is better | 19:01 |
| jpnurmi | ok, one sec | 19:01 |
| artemma | actually the ideal option is bit.ly link or similar :) | 19:01 |
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| artemma | i type it into device browser | 19:01 |
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| jpnurmi | artemma: http://jpnurmi.kapsi.fi/meeteevee.rpm thanks in advance :) | 19:03 |
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| artemma | jpnurmi: trying | 19:04 |
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| suy | w00t: http://i.imgur.com/9RpQfwk.png I looked it several times. :) | 19:10 |
| w00t | suy: ah, well, i don't use creator :p | 19:10 |
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| suy | w00t: Damn I hate^Wenvy you. Some of you should really post some mention on how you do it. BEcause I really use Vim for writing the code. But I have not realized how to do the rest: compiling and deploying in the VMs. I only use Creator for the docs and the build&run. | 19:13 |
| artemma | jpnurmi: | 19:13 |
| artemma | jpnurmi: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19482748/MeeTeeVee/20140105210618.png | 19:13 |
| suy | I've read of at least 3 people not using creator (at all?). And the SDK hides a bit too much sometimes. | 19:13 |
| artemma | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19482748/MeeTeeVee/20140105210633.png | 19:13 |
| artemma | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19482748/MeeTeeVee/20140105210644.png | 19:14 |
| artemma | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19482748/MeeTeeVee/20140105210718.png | 19:14 |
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| jpnurmi | artemma: thanks! | 19:14 |
| artemma | jpnurmi: you are welcome. Good luck with the app! | 19:15 |
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| jpnurmi | artemma: hehe it's just a quick port of some old little harmattan app. i want to see how the harbour submission process goes :) | 19:16 |
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| Elleo | suy: ssh in to the mersdk vm cd to your project directory and run "mb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl build" to build an rpm, or run "sb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl" within the mersdk vm to enter the scratchbox environment and do stuff on the command line however you like | 19:19 |
| Elleo | suy: you may also want to edit .scratchbox2/config and set DEFAULT_TARGET=SailfishOS-armv7hl so you don't have to set the target with the "-t SailfishOS-armv7hl" bit for commands | 19:19 |
| Elleo | suy: see https://sailfishos.org/develop-faq.html for instructions on sshing in to the mersdk if you haven't already | 19:20 |
| Elleo | in the "How do I login to the emulator or build engine" section | 19:20 |
| suy | Elleo: excellent. Seems I have something to learn :) | 19:21 |
| suy | Mmm, and deploying to the other VM? Is automated too by mb2? | 19:23 |
| Elleo | ah, if you're building for the VM then you don't want the target to be the armv7hl one | 19:24 |
| Elleo | you'll want SailfishOS-i486-x86 instead | 19:25 |
| Elleo | dunno about deploying, I know mb2 has a deploy option but it requires a devices.xml somewhere or something, which I don't really know anything about | 19:25 |
| Elleo | I just tend to build for the device and scp stuff over | 19:26 |
| Elleo | (of course you could scp stuff to the emulator just as easily) | 19:26 |
| suy | Elleo: ok. Seems Creator does some rsync. I will investigate through that. :) | 19:26 |
| suy | Elleo: thank you very much! | 19:27 |
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| Elleo | there is a devices.xml setup in the Sailfish SDK directory in vmshare, not sure how you get mb2 to notice it though | 19:27 |
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| Elleo | ah actually it might already be reading that | 19:28 |
| Elleo | suy: mb2 --device "SailfishOS Emulator" deploy --rsync | 19:28 |
| Elleo | there's also an option for using zypper with --zypper or pkcon with --pkcon | 19:29 |
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| suy | Elleo: awesome \o/ Thank you again | 19:29 |
| Elleo | I guess editing devices.xml to add an entry for your phone will then allow you to do the same to a real device too | 19:29 |
| Elleo | no problem :) | 19:29 |
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| artemma | Is there some easy way to filter SilicaListView in QML | 19:34 |
| * artemma kind'a hesitates filtering model in C++ when I just want to make a quick search among some 50-250 strings | 19:35 | |
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| artemma | or actually: what would be a proper way for filtering list elements on input like in People app? | 19:36 |
| suy | artemma: In QML, easily, I don't know. Never heard. In C++ is a matter of creating your model as a proxy model to the real one. Is easy, though. | 19:37 |
| artemma | suy: I used to do similar in QML level in the past, but that was somewhat clumsy: basically I was recreating filtered/transformed model every time original changed | 19:37 |
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| artemma | okay, maybe it's time to learn about C++ filtered models then.. | 19:38 |
| * artemma hoped that by QtQuick 2.0 time there is something pure QML for filtering not super-huge lists | 19:38 | |
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| Hartzi | hey, how I can center a text that is inside a label? | 19:48 |
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| jpnurmi | Hartzi: horizontalAlignment: Text.AlignHCenter; verticalAlignment: Text.AlignVCenter | 19:49 |
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| Hartzi | jpnurmi: hmm I already tried that but let's see what was wrong last time | 19:50 |
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| jpnurmi | notice that it will automatically grow to fit the content if it doesn't have a size specified | 19:54 |
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| Hartzi | jpnurmi: okai it seems to work now but vertical aligment is too low. It's not at center of the page | 20:08 |
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| artemma | jpnurmi: you seem to know about qvariant_cast I am trying to cast an object returned by model to my custom class and for some reason it calls copy constructor. Why? I'd like to get a pointer, not a copy | 20:09 |
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| jpnurmi | artemma: did you do qvariant_cast<T>() by accident, instead of qvariant_cast<T*>()? | 20:16 |
| artemma | ah! pointer, indeed! | 20:16 |
| artemma | trying | 20:17 |
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| artemma | jpnurmi: works! Thanks@ | 20:17 |
| artemma | ! | 20:17 |
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| artemma | or actually it doesn't. It compiles but once I add const LauncherItem* li = vLaunchItem.value<LauncherItem*>(); there are no further lines in console. like it crashes on access attempt | 20:21 |
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| artemma | hmm, if code never used setData (it inserts objects to uderlying List), maybe I shouldn't use data() for fetching objects either | 20:22 |
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| artemma | no, data() is actually implemented and returns QVariant::fromValue(objPointer); | 20:23 |
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| artemma | but that objPointer is pointer to QObject, maybe I need to cast it to my type first | 20:24 |
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| artemma | ah, my filtered model was just trying to do filtering before source model elements were available. Interesting.. | 20:34 |
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| artemma | now how come source model already knew its size, but was not able to deliver individiual items | 20:34 |
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| artemma | it's a pity debugger doesn't work in SDK for me | 20:38 |
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| jpnurmi | artemma: is the source model loading items asynchronously? | 20:38 |
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| artemma | jpnurmi: yet. I am cloning lipstick launcher model | 20:39 |
| artemma | launcher items model | 20:39 |
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| artemma | got tired that i can't find app in 3 launcher pages, so creating quick launcher | 20:39 |
| artemma | yep* | 20:40 |
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| artemma | no, I am missing something basic. Logs show that data() returns QVariant::fromValue(obj); for valid LauncherItems | 20:41 |
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| artemma | yet QVariant on the other side is invalid | 20:41 |
| artemma | yeah, it's a pity I can't step in in debugger | 20:43 |
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| artemma | maybe indeed filterAcceptsRow asks for items before they are somehow "fully added" | 20:43 |
| jpnurmi | obj is QObject* or LauncherItem*? | 20:43 |
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| artemma | QObject*, but it's LauncherItem* in fact | 20:44 |
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| jpnurmi | qvariant_cast is not as smart as qobject_cast - you probably can't ask for a different type that was stored in the variant | 20:45 |
| artemma | Logs tell that order is as follows: 1) adding elems as insertItem(_list->count(), item); 2) filterAcceptsRow gets invalid Qvariants 3) source model's data() is called returnign correct variant | 20:45 |
| jpnurmi | even if LauncherItem* is a QObject*, they are different types for QVariant | 20:45 |
| artemma | how come filterAcceptsRow prints logs before data() | 20:46 |
| artemma | jpnurmi: QVariant tells it's invalid already before casting | 20:46 |
| artemma | so it's not a conversion issue, but somehow improper model use | 20:46 |
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| jpnurmi | i'm not familiar with the launcher model, but you said it loads items asynchronously so perhaps the filter model asks for data before it was loaded? it should be fine as long as the source model informs that the data changed when it has been loaded | 20:48 |
| bara1 | how can i install qtsensors on the emulator? i get "QtSensors" is not installed when i try this example http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtsensors/qmlmodule-qtsensors5-qtsensors-5-0.html | 20:48 |
| artemma | jpnurmi: that's what I suspect, still confused because it looks like element is added already. Maybe it's somehow not added fully enough | 20:48 |
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| artemma | funny, if I ask for data() right after adding item (from adding item code, everything's fine). Maybe filterAcceptsRow is supplied invalid ModelIndex object somehow | 20:52 |
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| artemma | okay, it looks like I misunderstood sourceParent completely. Apparently it refers to some kind of.. parent object (for tree models?). I was trying to use it as source item locator | 20:57 |
| jpnurmi | artemma: the model index passed to filterAcceptsRow() is the _parent_ so it's an invalid index for any top level item that doesn't have a parent | 20:57 |
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| artemma | :) | 20:57 |
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| artemma | jpnurmi: thanks for the help. Everything works now. I can filter on whatever I want just fine | 21:02 |
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| jpnurmi | artemma: np :) | 21:03 |
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| suy | I noticed this: "Warning: specifying an object instance for initialPage is sub-optimal - prefer to use a Component" // Why is suboptimal? Isn't the component only for delaying the load on demand? And for the first page is always loaded anyway, isn't it? | 21:44 |
| khertan | Ahoy ! | 21:44 |
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| jpnurmi | suy: the initial page doesn't necessarily have to remain alive. it's a valid use case to replace() the initial page | 21:56 |
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| suy | jpnurmi: OK, that makes sense. But still, the warning could be a "maybe", I think. | 21:58 |
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| zbenjamin | coderus_: ping | 22:07 |
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| ottulo | anyone wanna file a bug report for mitäkuuluu for me? I don't feel like making an account just for that... | 22:39 |
| ottulo | and I checked, it's not in open nor closed issues atm | 22:39 |
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| ottulo | or if you get it from here coderus_: when a new message notification appears while typing a message, the message is split on a new line | 22:40 |
| ottulo | odd... it doesn't seem to do that all the time | 22:44 |
| ottulo | asked a friend to send messages while I type :D | 22:44 |
| ottulo | also, I have selected enter as the send-button, so I couldn't have typed in a line break by accident | 22:45 |
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| Tumeez | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB-5F8aLc24 | 22:59 |
| ln- | Tumeez: off-topic | 22:59 |
| Tumeez | Sorry :( | 22:59 |
| Tumeez | I'm happy! | 22:59 |
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