Sunday, 2014-01-05

coderusconsole.log("something happened")00:00
magegucoderus: thanks, i cannot find the Output00:00
coderusin qt creator  application output tab on the bottom00:00
magegucoderus: nothing in the IDE views or the logs ive checket so far00:00
mageguhm, weird00:00
magegucoderus: the app Output view will only show "Connecting to device..."00:02
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coderusmagegu: something wrong with your configuration00:06
MSameerjake9xx: ^^^00:07
MSameerisn't that a known issue?00:07
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tanghusIs it possible to disable SDK modifying the yaml file? It fuxxees up my CI04:24
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coderustanghus: CI>?07:32
tanghuscoderus: Continuos Integration. In this case more Continuos Translation :)07:33
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tango_is there a way to read/write simple configuration files (.ini, .xml) from qml diectly?08:12
coderustanghus: for xml there XmlListModel08:22
coderusfor ini nothing in qml08:22
coderustanghus: i'm just not building using qtc :)08:23
coderussorry :D08:23
tango_coderus: yeah but xmllistmodel only reads from xml files, I don't think it can write them too08:23
coderustango_: for xml XmlListModel in QML, and nothing for ini.08:23
coderusyou need C++/Qt code08:24
coderusits QtXML08:25
tango_which doesn't have qml bindings, I assume08:25
coderusand for ini files you can use QSettings.08:26
coderusQSettings settings("/path/to/test.ini", QSettings::IniFormat);08:26
coderusand so on08:26
tango_ah, interesting08:27
tango_yeah, it's for settings, so that will do08:27
tango_oh wait, still c++08:27
coderusdont beware C++08:27
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coderusyou can make class and export it to qml easily08:28
coderusin a half of hour or even less08:28
tango_coderus: I know, that's not the reason I'm trying to avoid c++08:28
tango_coderus: it's just that my sdk setup doesn't work08:29
coderusif you want to avoid c++ you need to use qmlscene and not sailfishapp08:29
tango_so I can code qml stuff directly on the phone and it works great08:29
coderuswrite support classes for xml and settings oncce and continue using qml08:29
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coderusyou can also build qmlplugin and import it to any qml you want08:33
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coderusis it the same connman with sailfish one?
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celeron55i can tell that it is because the first link on the page is already visited in my browser and i have only visited it's page before from some sailfish/nemo/mer pages 8)09:00
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coderuswell, is there ready to get connmanctl then?09:02
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SvioxSomeone suggested some days ago to use condition packagesExists(sailfishapp) in .pro file to make sailfish specific configurations, but I'm getting "not a recognized test function" error. Any ideas?09:39
Andy80I'm trying to get rid of an old application template I created with an early version of the SDK but it looks like it's a blody mess :(09:49
Andy80not only they switched from sailfishapplication (included in sources) to sailfishapp, but also the .pro/.pri included must be different09:50
Andy80has anyone a complete app published somewhere, with the new template, where I can take example from?09:51
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fk_lxAndy80: I think the easiest way would be probably creating a new project in new SDK and either copy your stuff there or just use it as sth to copy from to your original project10:00
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Andy80fk_lx: I've created a new project and I'm taking example from it, but I'm modifying the existing one I've. Of course I'm working on a different git branch, because at the moment nothing compiles :/10:01
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fk_lxwell just look carefully at all errors you get10:03
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Andy80fk_lx: yes but I'm not expert at all of .pro stuff.... I'm getting tons of warnings and even errors in main.cpp10:10
fk_lxmaybe some includes missing?10:10
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Andy80fk_lx: I don't know... the fact is that the syntax has changed from sailfishapplication and sailfishapp10:11
Andy80different methods also10:11
Andy80if you give me a minute I can push the branch10:11
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Andy80fk_lx: ok, I've pushed it here
suySviox: that works for me. And I copied from others. It has to work. Are you doing something different?10:14
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Andy80'going to grab some coffee...10:15
suyAndy80: can you paste the errors?10:15
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suyIn main, I think you lack the setSource call10:16
Svioxsuy: does it work if you simply create helloworld and put that condition in there? Or does it require something to get it working?10:16
Andy80suy: here are the errors
Andy80suy: yes I removed because it was not comiling anyway...10:17
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suySviox: but why are you using the condition for? I'm using it to set DEFINES+=Q_OS_SAILFISH, for example. Or for choosing different qml files.10:18
suyAndy80: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct QQmlContext'  <<-- that :)10:19
suyAndy80: you removed it in the commit :)10:19
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Andy80suy: am I missing an include?10:20
suyAndy80: yes, you removed #include <QQmlContext>, for example10:20
Svioxsuy: I'm trying to add a way to #ifdef code so I can support Harmattan, Sailfish and desktop with single code base.10:20
SvioxAnd also, in .pro file to add correct files per platform10:20
Andy80suy: right. Ok, now it compiles but I'm still getting tons of warnings. Let me commit one moment....10:22
suySviox: that's what I'm doing too. But I don't get why you have something like "not a recognized test function", since packagesExist is standard qmake.10:22
suySviox: oh, I think I got it... a typo. :P10:22
jake9xxMSameer: referring to your q; yes10:22
suySviox: is packagesExist, not packagesExists :)10:22
Andy80suy: do you notice any missing things in .pro file? Because as you can see it now compiles but I get many warnings10:25
suyAndy80: in your last commit you lack a QApplication :)10:26
suySailfishApp::application(int, char *[]) to get the QGuiApplication *10:26
Andy80suy: yes but....10:27
suyevery Qt app (well, almost) needs a QCoreApplication, or a subclass of it10:27
Andy80I had this QScopedPointer<QGuiApplication> app(Sailfish::createApplication(argc, argv));10:27
Andy80yes but there is something I don't understand10:27
Andy80suy: the example application I created had this: return SailfishApp::main(argc, argv);10:28
Andy80I don't understand what the main does10:28
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Andy80suy: because if you have the app you just call return app->exec();10:28
Andy80suy: while I'm calling show() because the comment said // To display the view, call "show()" (will show fullscreen on device).10:29
Andy80I'm confused10:29
suyYes, that initial template was quite... naive. I don't like it at all. It's for making a main() trivial if you only want to load a QML, which is not very usefull outside HelloWorld.10:29
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suyA more real world example is here:
Andy80suy: let me see if I'm able to fix my main.cpp....10:30
suyNormally, in Qt, you declare a QApplication on the stack. But I don't know why, for Sailfish, they want you to call SailfishApp::application(argc, argv), which returns a pointer.10:31
suySo you need to wrap it in a QScopedPointer to guard you from memory leaks. (assuming they use dynamic memory, which I don't know)10:32
Andy80suy: just pushed the new main.cpp10:32
suyAndy80: seems right now.10:33
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Andy80suy: yes.. I'm just getting those errors in Makefile10:34
Andy80sorry... warning10:34
Andy80warnings not errors10:34
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suyI get warnings on the rpmbuild too. If the application itself compiles, and works, and generates no warnings at runtime, ignore for now.10:35
suyIs more an issue for packaging, and in that I can't help you, since I've never done it yet.10:36
Andy80suy: it compiles and run on the device. I've only tried the deploy as binary. I will try the deploy as rpm package now...10:37
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Andy80uhm... the deployment with rpm doesn't work infact, I'm getting this File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/harbour-sailsoma10:45
Andy80probably I'm missing something in the .pro10:45
Andy80I tried to port everything from the .pri but it had some stuff that I can't find in other projects10:46
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coderusSviox: isnt it packageExists and not packagesExists?11:02
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suyYep, that's what I said... too late. I think I told him wrong the first time he asked. Sorry about that11:04
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coderusAndy80: you prting harmattan qmlapplicationviewer to sailfiish?11:08
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Andy80coderus: uhm.... not exactly. I started from a pure SailfishOS project (even if created with an old SDK template) and I added .c and .qml and ported them...11:09
Svioxsuy: Oh, nice catch :)11:09
Andy80I'm getting this error when I create the rpm package and here is my .pro any idea how to fix it?11:10
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coderusshow your yaml/spec first11:12
coderusremove qml and quick from QT +=11:13
coderusbtw, are you on last 1312?11:14
Andy80coderus: the yaml is here
Andy80coderus: yes, I'm11:15
Andy80coderus: but as I told you I created the initial project with the first release of the SDK and now I want to port it to the latest template and get rid of that sailfishapplication folder....11:15
coderusdo clean, remove all makefiles, do clean build11:16
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SvioxI'm still trying to figure out the connections between .pro. yaml and .spec files (Debian system seems so much more convinient..). For example, if I simply want to add an icon file to the project, what should I do?11:17
Andy80coderus: can I remove all the build-* folder ? Because it's not cleaned at all with Clean All11:18
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coderusSviox: first add it to pro file as usual11:19
coderusyaml/spec just saying which files to include in which project11:19
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coderusits lite package.files in debian11:20
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coderusyou can have multiple packages in spec and separate files of one project to different packages11:20
coderusthats it11:20
coderusAndy80: sure11:20
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Andy80coderus: done everything you said, same error again: File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/harbour-sailsoma11:21
suySviox: As coderus said, the .pro file is the buildsystem. The yaml/spec are for bulding the package only. It's 2 phases.11:21
SvioxCan I still use the INSTALLS keyword and create my own group of files with certain install path? Will rpm build take those in?11:21
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SvioxI guess my confision comes from some files and locations in the Sailfish template being determined in the yaml/spec file while I'm used to only specify the INSTALLS on pro file and let debian packaging take care of including the correct files..11:23
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SvioxFor example, the [appname].png default icon isn't defined in the template hello world .pro file at all, which seems wrong.11:24
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SvioxAlso, the .yaml file contains %{_datadir}/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/%{name}.png under files. That refers only to target path. If I had my icon under icons folder instead of root folder, the build would fail because of this. How do I determine the source file relative path?11:32
Andy80one thing is sure: packaging and fixing templates and .pro errors should not take more time than actually coding the app :(11:32
SvioxI thought I had reached a solid understanding with the build system when I coded for Harmattan but this template and rpm packaging is really confusing ;)11:34
Andy80another weak point is the totally lack of documentation11:37
Andy80at least in QtCreator nothing is included11:37
Andy80one has to digg around on github and look other people sources and guess things11:37
SvioxLol, just what I'm doing now :)11:39
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suyAndy80: qmake documentation is included11:40
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suywhat is not included is docs on the SailfishApp thing11:40
suyThe header is the only documentation.11:40
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SvioxWhat on earth.. doesn't .yaml license fiels allow multi-line text? Building package failed with long(ish) multi-line text but passed when I removed all but first line11:42
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SvioxHmm, looks like I can use the INSTALLS on .pro file11:48
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SvioxMakes things a lot easier11:48
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Andy80it looks like I've fixed my problem.. it was a mix of .yaml and .pro settings...11:51
Andy80now I've to properly test on the device11:51
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Andy80it look like it works :)11:53
Andy80having lunch now, see you later11:53
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coderusSviox: you SHOULD use INSTALLS, othervise it will not be included in package ;)12:05
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Andy80why, even if I have added the URL: section on my .yaml file, it's not parsed by QtC?
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Andy80argh.... weird packaging/deploy problem...12:40
Andy80I've completly removed my app from my device, uninstalling it. Then I deploy it again using rpm build. It's deployed etc.... BUT when I open the About, the version is 0.3.1 even if my source says 0.3.212:40
Andy80I don't understand where it gets that old file from :(12:41
Andy80I fear that probably I'm not deploying the qml files correctly and that my binary is using the old ones12:43
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coderusReleased  Mitakuuluu  v0.1-18 with translations support.
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Andy80uffffffff :(12:53
Andy80I'm getting crazy with these damn .yaml and .pro :(12:53
Andy80I did think it was fixed and it's not12:53
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Morpog_coderus, translations don't get used13:22
Morpog_Yes, I Quit Mitäkuuluu after setting German :D13:23
thesignalhi, i have added my application weeks ago. it has been accepted twice in the harbour, but it's still not showing up in the jolla store. i also wrote a email to dev-care 5 days ago, but haven't recived any answer. I think it might still be the package naming which prevents my app from showing up in the store, who does a correct name look like? my package name is: harbour-ohm-1.0.1-1.armv7hl.rpm13:26
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Morpog_if it fails, they tell you why13:27
thesignalit doesn't fail Morpog_, it also says "PUBLISHED", it's already accepted13:28
Morpog_then, it should pop up in store soon I guess13:28
thesignalit's published since over a week13:28
thesignaland it was already approved one month ago and didn't show up13:29
thesignalso i changed the package name and put it again to QA13:29
Morpog_try to contact developer care13:29
thesignali did already13:29
thesignalmaybe they'll answer next week13:30
thesignalbut it's really annoying13:30
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Morpog_they had less personal due to holidays till 7th13:30
thesignalyeah i know13:31
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Svioxcoderus: should I also add application binary to INSTALLS (i.e. target)? Because that seems to go into the rpm without any apparent command on the project file.13:45
jpnurmiSviox: shouldn't be necessary if you have CONFIG += sailfishapp in your .pro file13:51
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suyIs there any convenience function in QML/JS to format text? Doing   text: name + " (" + type + ")"    is not pretty :)14:09
suyI've found for formatting dates only.14:09
suyAh, String is extended to support .arg(), nice.14:10
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coderusMy apologiez.  Mitakuuluu  v0.1-19 should fix localizations.14:14
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coderussuy: you can also use qsTr("Something %1 happened!").arg(checkIfGood(something) ? qsTr("good") : qsTr("bad"))14:16
suycoderus: yes. I've been coding lazily, and I haven't wrapped user strings in qsTr() yet. :)  But that would return the String for free.14:17
suyMost of my strings aren't translatable anyway14:18
SvioxIs id based localization also supported by qml?14:18
MSameerqsTrId() is there IIRC14:18
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MSameerSviox: qsTrId is available14:19
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jake9xxMSameer: the issue you referred y'day is related to ssh keys and their config in Mer SDK VM - lbt ought to know about it too.14:23
MSameerjake9xx: someone was asking. I just pinged you. I don't remember who asked :(14:24
MSameerjake9xx: but thanks for following up14:24
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SvioxMSameer: thanks14:32
SvioxBtw, where should I put by application files? On Harmattan, /opt/[packagename] was preferred what about on Sailfish?14:33
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suySviox: check the faq:
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suy(in case you want to comply with harbour, I assumed)14:40
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Goran_are sailfish apps arm architecture binaries? Or some bytecode?14:46
fk_lxnative sailfish apps are usually arm binaries14:46
fk_lxbut you could have Python script for example14:47
fk_lxGoran_: for apps development see sailfishos.org14:49
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John24hello guys :)14:54
John24would anyone happen to know how to pass variables between QML files? I got firstpage.qml as the main user interace and secondpage.qml as the page in which user enter connection data 'ip, port, password, usrname' and I want them to be passed back to firstpage.qml14:55
John24how would I do it? I searched on google but I couldn't find anything really useful14:55
suyJohn24: through properties.14:55
suysomething like pageStack.addPage("secondpage.qml", {foo: bar})14:56
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John24i see i assume {foo: bar}) is foo the variable name and bar is the value?14:57
khertanbut linking to python aren"t allowed for Harbour (currently)14:58
suyJohn24: yes. See the docs for PageStack, for example.14:58
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John24why thank you kind sir I shall read about PageStack now!14:59
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John24suy thank you it all works now, a user can choose an ip and port and so on :)15:12
John24I got another question, how do we show messages to users?15:12
John24I mean like message popups15:13
MSameerbanners you mean?15:13
MSameerthat component does not exist15:13
John24yes I think so15:13
MSameeri am sure others know how but I personally don't know15:13
John24so how is the sailfishOS is using it15:13
John24it can't be system exclusive15:13
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MSameeri think there is a way via libmlite but I don't know15:15
John24thanks I'll need to look into it15:15
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SvioxIt seems like the FAQ is disallowing usage of libarchive even though it is available on the emulator and has a stable API. Does this really mean my app wouldn't get accepted because of the dependency? Also, what should I use instead of libarchive?15:17
proyvinddirect apis to compressors/archivers?15:17
proyvindmy wild guess15:17
mohjivetried to build an imported project, cutespotify, but I get this "Package libresourceqt5 not found" - isn't lib resource installed with the sdk?15:18
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John24having issues with pagestack15:34
John24if I use push it all works well but it obviously add a page to the stack which I don't want, so i tried to use pop but I get errors15:35
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John24my call: pageStack.pop(Qt.resolvedUrl("FirstPage.qml"), {ip: tfIP.text, port: tfPORT.text, username: tfUSR.text, password: tfPASS.text})15:35
John24error:  Error: Cannot pop to invalid target page which is not present on the stack15:35
jpnurmiJohn24: what do you want to do? a wild guess... perhaps replace() does what you want?15:36
John24on the first page i use dfefault pagestack call with pulley menu15:37
John24PullDownMenu {             MenuItem {                 text: "Connect"                 onClicked: pageStack.push(Qt.resolvedUrl("SecondPage.qml"))             }         }15:37
John24so second page is placed on the stack15:37
John24I assume that once your done with second page you use pop to remove it15:37
TumeezWnglish language iis mysterious boxes in MitäKuuluu settings?15:37
John24replace only replaces the current stack wich is secondpage.qmp but does not return to firstpage15:39
John24which is weird15:39
jpnurmiJohn24: if you want to go back to the first page, yes, pop() would do that. but the first page is there already in the stack so you shouldn't pass Qt.resolvedUrl(...)15:39
John24oh didn't know that, so just leave my properties?15:40
suyJohn24: just pop(), without parameters. Read the docs ;)15:40
jpnurmijust pageStack.pop() will remove the top most page from the stack15:40
John24well I want to send parameters from second page to first page15:41
suyThat's a different issue. Use something like myFirstPage.someProperty=someValue, and then pop()15:42
jpnurmithe second page almost sounds like a dialog then? you could use Dialog and implement the onAccepted handler15:42
John24i'll show you now guys :) give me a second15:43
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Morpog_coderus, I just updated german translation to fix a few things like too long translated strings. Would be great if next update could include it.15:44
John24page one :
John24page two :
Morpog_client :D15:46
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John24so you guys think i am doing it wrong by having a second page for connection settings?15:47
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Morpog_no, looks fine15:48
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Andy80jpnurmi: ping15:49
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John24ahh just using pageStack.pop() gives: ReferenceError: FirstPage is not defined15:50
jpnurmiJohn24: i'd make the second page a dialog. if the user changes his mind, s/he can cancel connecting15:50
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jpnurmisomething like "Component { id: myDialog; MyDialog { onAccepted: ... } }" and "pageStack.push(myDialog)" on the first page. MyDialog provides the necessary properties to get all connection parameters15:51
jpnurmiAndy80: pong15:51
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SvioxWhy does this "desktop-file-install" command keep getting back to .spec file? It fails on me with "No such file or directory" at the moment. How should the dekstop file be defined to it?15:53
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John24is there any other way to pass variables withouth using pagestack?16:04
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Svioxfrom where to where?16:05
John24SecondPage.qml to FirstPage.qml16:05
John24uset types in a value in SecondPage.qml I want that value then passed and overdide variable in FirstPage.qml16:06
John24FirstPage.ip = tfIP.text does not work16:06
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John24in firstpage.qml I got  property var ip : ""16:07
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SvioxI would store any data to a QObject derived object added to declarative context16:12
John24Sviox that just shot past me, I am quite new and still learning16:14
SvioxAfter adding the context, you can just myContext.setSomeVariables(x,y,z)16:14
SvioxMe too :)16:14
John24as in  QtObject {          id: attributes          property string name          property int size          property variant attributes      }16:16
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SvioxUmm, no. I mean, try to create C++ QObject based storage. There might be an easier way, but I'm also quite new to QML.16:17
John24mixing C++ with QML is bit too much for me atm, I am trying to get used to QML before mixing the both16:18
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SvioxSo your not coming from C++/Qt background?16:19
SvioxIf that's the case, then there must be easier approach with pure QML. I'm all C++/Qt and not so much into QML ;)16:19
coderusMorpog_: xure, i will pull translations for every update :)16:21
John24No firs week using Qt creator and all16:21
John24but I think I found the solution with pagestack Jolla added aditional fucntionality not listed by Qt docs:
John24one of them is bound to have what I want16:22
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Andy80I want to start adding a changelog to my app... is there any template I can follow? I mean... is there any particular convention like the name of the file (CHANGELOG / ChangeLog / chengelog.txt ?!) or the format inside?16:25
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Andy80John24: yes.... a good list of "we should do...we should write..." but no solutions :D16:29
Andy80a bit anarchic situation :P16:29
SvioxWould someone please tell me how to get rid of packaging error "Error on file "/home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/applications/*.desktop": No such file or directory" given by desktop-file-install. I'm about to throw my computer out of the window here as the next solution. This just broke down - it worked a short while ago - and I have no idea what's causing this.16:29
artemmaSviox: you can ssh to Mer build machine and see if the *.desktop is actually deployed where packaging expects it to be16:30
artemmabut it's quite obvious that it doesn't16:30
artemmaso it's either deployed to wrong place or not deployed at all16:31
artemmaI'd check INSTALLS in your .pro16:31
jpnurmiSviox: have you been adding harbour-prefixes and that broke it?16:31
artemmaand also part of INSTALLS that's generated by sailfishapp.prf from qt libs16:31
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SvioxIt is on the INSTALLS, but I'm not sure if (according to compile log) it's actually installed..16:33
Svioxartemma: How can I check that?16:33
artemmaSviox: I would still ssh to mer machine first just in case16:34
Andy80Sviox: I can tell you that after having changed all my sources, .pro, .yaml to follow the "expected" template, I don't even need the INSTALL section anymore16:34
celeron55John24: you can refer to the previous page on the stack (the page on the "left side") by pageStack.previousPage()16:34
Andy80.desktop included16:34
artemmato see if something wrong named is deployed somewhere around16:34
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celeron55if you have Page{property string foo: "bar"} on the first page, you can do pageStack.previousPage().foo = "baz" on the new page16:35
artemmaSviox: search for ssh at
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SvioxHow can I SSH the MER machine? It says I need public key instead of accepting username and password.. I'm using windows.16:35
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SvioxThe emulator side is easy to connect to (as nemo user)16:36
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artemmaSviox: search for ssh at
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SvioxAndy80: Yes, I'm aware. I Started with the template, but eventually moved app code to a sub project where the desktop file is also located.16:38
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artemmaSviox: you should have started with HelloWorld Pro wizard for proper naming and project structure ;P16:39
SvioxAnd as I said, it worked fine just a few hours ago.. Not sure what I did to break it..16:39
artemma(created by me)16:39
Svioxartemma: I did!16:39
Andy80Sviox: I fought the template and the template won \m/16:39
artemmaSviox: I am not 100% sure that build cleans all the old stuff in mer machine. It should, but maybe that particular .desktop stayed..16:40
SvioxThe default structure just isn't for me because I need multiple binaries, lot's of extra files and ability to build for Harmattan and desktop.16:40
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John24seems like I won't be able to pass variables between qml pages as pop does not allow properties16:45
John24is there any other way to pass variables between qml files?16:45
Svioxartemma: That's a very likely scenario that the "old files" was left on Mer and my previous deployment worked by luck.16:45
artemmaSviox: well, there are only a couple of steps you need to examine anyway16:46
artemmacheck what gets to Mer and what's generated by INSTALLS16:46
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artemmaSviox: as a quick trial you can add your .desktop to INSTALLS manually (it should be picked up by sailfishapp.prf scripts, but just for trial add it manually)16:47
SvioxI did16:47
Andy80Sviox: the old files problem happened also to me... I noticed that the new QML were not deployed because I had changed the About and I was seeing the old one16:48
SvioxI mean, I've been trying that now.16:48
Sviox--> Dinner. Maybe I'll catch some new ideas.16:50
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Gelbhi. can i run android apps in the sailfish os emulator? i would like to see how/if my android app runs on sailfish os.16:53
artemmaSviox: sorry, but there really is just two (okay maybe three) steps to verify :) Check files in Mer machine, check what INSTALLS generate (you can see in makefile)16:53
Morpog_no you can't16:53
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Gelbokay, so i just have to hope that it works... ;-(16:53
leinirGelb: Well, you can always send it to some people - or in case you've got it on the amazon store, most people with a device would be able to test :)16:54
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Gelbleinir: amazon store? i thought the device is shipped with that yandex store. i uploaded it there.16:55
leinirit ships with yandex, but the amazon store works just fine as well, just need to download it :)16:55
leinirBut yeah, if it's already on yandex too, then you should be good :)16:55
Gelbi see, good. my app is called "EveryWiki", if anyone is interested in testing.16:56
artemmaAnybody who knows something about LGPL here? I want to reuse a few files from lipstick code (LGPL) while keeping my code closed. I will use it as a library-like way (so LGPL should be fine), but not exactly as a library, just as few source code files. Any thoughts?16:56
leinirartemma: Thoughts - if it's linked into the same binary, then no, that isn't fine16:57
artemmaleinir: I've heard of this point of view, but the only profound discussion on a topic I was able to locate underlines several times that license says nothing about linking.16:57
leinirartemma: if it is a separate .so, then it /would/ be ok, as long as everything you do to that lipstick code is public and also lgpl... ianal, but that's what i understand :)16:57
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artemmasure, my modifications to LGPL code should be public, I don't want to disclose the rest of the code only16:58
leinirartemma: ok, philosophical and direct - if the end user is able to rebuild with those files changed, then you are legally allowed to do it16:58
krigartemma: it has to be relinkable, so just including some source files is not okay.. they have to be a separate library16:58
leinirwhat krig said16:58
artemmaokay.. so it needs to be somehow packaged in a reusable way..16:59
leinirTechnically speaking, if you make the object files available, then you are legally ok... but then you're also being a male appendage ;)16:59
artemmaI don't mind sharing my changes to LGPL code at all - I am basing on that work after all. I don't want to have to disclose the rest of the code17:00
leinir(basically it comes under the heading don't be a dick - legally it'd be ok, but you're making it enormously difficult for the end user to do what they should legally be able to do)17:00
krigi'm not a lawyer, but i don't think making object files available is enough sadly, the final binary has to be relinkable17:00
* artemma hopes one day somebody actually does generate a working example with own library linked in a harbour-acceptable way. It's sort of weird to have limitations in harbour FAQ without a single example of how to follow them17:00
artemmathat would solve my issue perfectly, I'd just package LGPL bits into a stand alone lib17:01
krigartemma: agreed, same thing with example apps that follow the specs and use the features of the phone.. would be very helpful.17:01
celeron55John24: did you see what i answered?17:02
John24sorry just came back to the page was reading Qt forums I will check now17:03
John24ok trying it now celeron5517:06
smokexwhy not just include some headers so the object files can be used with precompiled binaries17:07
smokexas precompiled binaries17:07
artemmaGo vote for getting examples on adding libraries to your project -
artemmaif it gets enough votes, somebody will want to become famous and create some. Hopefully17:08
Andy80just voted17:08
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Andy80documentation and examples, in general, must be improved, but I suspect they're perfectly aware of this, they just don't have enough people to work on these things or they had other priorities until now17:10
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John24@celeron55 I could kiss you right now :D works like a charm17:12
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SvioxOkay, I got on with the dekstop file - it wasn't installed because of duplicate field (blind me...). But now the same problem exists with QML files..17:15
artemmaSviox: duplicate field?17:16
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Svioxyes, in .desktop. Never would have thought that would have had any effect on anything...17:18
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SvioxI had copied X-Nemo-Application-Type from the faq (with other fields) without realizing it was already in the template generated file.17:18
artemmastrange.. .desktop contents should be procesed at runtime only17:18
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SvioxIt gives this output after the "install -m ..." ones on the log: "/home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/applications/[appname].desktop: error: file contains multiple keys named "X-Nemo-Application-Type" in group "Desktop Entry""17:22
SvioxEasy to miss since it's not highlighted in any way and the error is not at the beginning of the line. But that's the reason why desktop-file-install failes a bit later.17:24
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artemmaah, so it's RPM installation that detected wrong .desktop format17:25
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SvioxNow everything else workd fine but RPM creation says "error: File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/X" where X is the name of my subproject.17:33
SvioxHas anyone actually managed to deploy content using Qt subdirs template?17:34
smokexI prefer statically linking17:34
artemmaSviox: you told that you checked HW Pro template. It has exactly that ;)17:36
artemmaand app is in harbour17:36
SvioxHW *PRO* template? What's that?17:36
artemmaSviox: your .yaml/.spec scripts probably mention these non-existent files17:36
artemmaHelloWorld pro17:36
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Svioxartemma: seems like the .yaml file DID have reference to the the subproject.. nice17:39
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SvioxTriupm! Mer 0, Sviox 1. Now the package is created and deployed successfully.17:40
SvioxTriumph more like..17:40
artemmaSviox: congrats! (y)17:40
artemmawhat's the app about?17:40
SvioxTrying to bring into Sailfish world17:41
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smokexoh nice17:44
SvioxBuilding Harmattan version was a lot easier with 3 years of doing it's platform utilities as my day job giving a good idea on how things work :P17:45
artemmaSviox: good luck with it!17:47
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SvioxI did the MeeGo version with zero lines of QML so that's the number 1 reason giving me headaches at the moment. Webkit API of the QML webview is just so very limited.17:49
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smokexisn't Qt currently replacing webkit on their dev branch?17:51
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SvioxYes, they are17:51
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SvioxAnd it would be interesting to hear if Sailfish will be moving to the new version and also what kind of APIs that have..17:52
smokexIt will be half way through this year before 5.3 is released probably17:52
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suyI soooo want Sailfish to support 5.2 ASAP. Even simple things like the documentation has really nice improvements. I spent 15 minutes wondering if QQuickItem is a QObject. It is, but the 5.1 docs don't say so. Nor they show any hint about it. No connect(), objectName(), etc.18:19
valdur55Damn.. i changed bunch of stuff and nothing really changed18:20
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w00tsuy: I have to ask.. but where exactly were you looking? ( - right near the top: "Inherits: QObject and QQmlParserStatus.")18:48
w00tand class inheritance has been at the same place (the top of the class docs) for.. more or less as long as I can remember :p18:49
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jpnurmianyone up for taking a couple of screenshots for me?18:57
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suyw00t: not in the shipped docs :-(19:00
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artemmajpnurmi: I can do screenshots19:00
jpnurmiartemma: - i can also send an rpm if you prefer?19:00
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artemmarpm is better19:01
jpnurmiok, one sec19:01
artemmaactually the ideal option is link or similar :)19:01
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artemmai type it into device browser19:01
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jpnurmiartemma: thanks in advance :)19:03
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artemmajpnurmi: trying19:04
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suyw00t:  I looked it several times. :)19:10
w00tsuy: ah, well, i don't use creator :p19:10
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suyw00t: Damn I hate^Wenvy you. Some of you should really post some mention on how you do it. BEcause I really use Vim for writing the code. But I have not realized how to do the rest: compiling and deploying in the VMs. I only use Creator for the docs and the build&run.19:13
suyI've read of at least 3 people not using creator (at all?). And the SDK hides a bit too much sometimes.19:13
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jpnurmiartemma: thanks!19:14
artemmajpnurmi: you are welcome. Good luck with the app!19:15
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jpnurmiartemma: hehe it's just a quick port of some old little harmattan app. i want to see how the harbour submission process goes :)19:16
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Elleosuy: ssh in to the mersdk vm cd to your project directory and run "mb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl build" to build an rpm, or run "sb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl" within the mersdk vm to enter the scratchbox environment and do stuff on the command line however you like19:19
Elleosuy: you may also want to edit .scratchbox2/config and set DEFAULT_TARGET=SailfishOS-armv7hl so you don't have to set the target with the "-t SailfishOS-armv7hl" bit for commands19:19
Elleosuy: see for instructions on sshing in to the mersdk if you haven't already19:20
Elleoin the "How do I login to the emulator or build engine" section19:20
suyElleo: excellent. Seems I have something to learn :)19:21
suyMmm, and deploying to the other VM? Is automated too by mb2?19:23
Elleoah, if you're building for the VM then you don't want the target to be the armv7hl one19:24
Elleoyou'll want SailfishOS-i486-x86 instead19:25
Elleodunno about deploying, I know mb2 has a deploy option but it requires a devices.xml somewhere or something, which I don't really know anything about19:25
ElleoI just tend to build for the device and scp stuff over19:26
Elleo(of course you could scp stuff to the emulator just as easily)19:26
suyElleo: ok. Seems Creator does some rsync. I will investigate through that. :)19:26
suyElleo: thank you very much!19:27
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Elleothere is a devices.xml setup in the Sailfish SDK directory in vmshare, not sure how you get mb2 to notice it though19:27
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Elleoah actually it might already be reading that19:28
Elleosuy: mb2 --device "SailfishOS Emulator" deploy --rsync19:28
Elleothere's also an option for using zypper with --zypper or pkcon with --pkcon19:29
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suyElleo: awesome \o/  Thank you again19:29
ElleoI guess editing devices.xml to add an entry for your phone will then allow you to do the same to a real device too19:29
Elleono problem :)19:29
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artemmaIs there some easy way to filter SilicaListView in QML19:34
* artemma kind'a hesitates filtering model in C++ when I just want to make a quick search among some 50-250 strings19:35
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artemmaor actually: what would be a proper way for filtering list elements on input like in People app?19:36
suyartemma: In QML, easily, I don't know. Never heard. In C++ is a matter of creating your model as a proxy model to the real one. Is easy, though.19:37
artemmasuy: I used to do similar in QML level in the past, but that was somewhat clumsy: basically I was recreating filtered/transformed model every time original changed19:37
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artemmaokay, maybe it's time to learn about C++ filtered models then..19:38
* artemma hoped that by QtQuick 2.0 time there is something pure QML for filtering not super-huge lists19:38
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Hartzihey, how I can center a text that is inside a label?19:48
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jpnurmiHartzi: horizontalAlignment: Text.AlignHCenter; verticalAlignment: Text.AlignVCenter19:49
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Hartzijpnurmi: hmm I already tried that but let's see what was wrong last time19:50
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jpnurminotice that it will automatically grow to fit the content if it doesn't have a size specified19:54
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Hartzijpnurmi: okai it seems to work now but vertical aligment is too low. It's not at center of the page20:08
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artemmajpnurmi: you seem to know about qvariant_cast I am trying to cast an object returned by model to my custom class and for some reason it calls copy constructor. Why? I'd like to get a pointer, not a copy20:09
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jpnurmiartemma: did you do qvariant_cast<T>() by accident, instead of qvariant_cast<T*>()?20:16
artemmaah! pointer, indeed!20:16
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artemmajpnurmi: works! Thanks@20:17
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artemmaor actually it doesn't. It compiles but once I add const LauncherItem* li = vLaunchItem.value<LauncherItem*>(); there are no further lines in console. like it crashes on access attempt20:21
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artemmahmm, if code never used setData (it inserts objects to uderlying List), maybe I shouldn't use data() for fetching objects either20:22
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artemmano, data() is actually implemented and returns QVariant::fromValue(objPointer);20:23
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artemmabut that objPointer is pointer to QObject, maybe I need to cast it to my type first20:24
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artemmaah, my filtered model was just trying to do filtering before source model elements were available. Interesting..20:34
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artemmanow how come source model already knew its size, but was not able to deliver individiual items20:34
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artemmait's a pity debugger doesn't work in SDK for me20:38
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jpnurmiartemma: is the source model loading items asynchronously?20:38
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artemmajpnurmi: yet. I am cloning lipstick launcher model20:39
artemmalauncher items model20:39
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artemmagot tired that i can't find app in 3 launcher pages, so creating quick launcher20:39
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artemmano, I am missing something basic. Logs show that data() returns QVariant::fromValue(obj); for valid LauncherItems20:41
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artemmayet QVariant on the other side is invalid20:41
artemmayeah, it's a pity I can't step in in debugger20:43
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artemmamaybe indeed filterAcceptsRow asks for items before they are somehow "fully added"20:43
jpnurmiobj is QObject* or LauncherItem*?20:43
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artemmaQObject*, but it's LauncherItem* in fact20:44
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jpnurmiqvariant_cast is not as smart as qobject_cast - you probably can't ask for a different type that was stored in the variant20:45
artemmaLogs tell that order is as follows: 1) adding elems as insertItem(_list->count(), item); 2) filterAcceptsRow gets invalid Qvariants 3) source model's data() is called returnign correct variant20:45
jpnurmieven if LauncherItem* is a QObject*, they are different types for QVariant20:45
artemmahow come filterAcceptsRow prints logs before data()20:46
artemmajpnurmi: QVariant tells it's invalid already before casting20:46
artemmaso it's not a conversion issue, but somehow improper model use20:46
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jpnurmii'm not familiar with the launcher model, but you said it loads items asynchronously so perhaps the filter model asks for data before it was loaded? it should be fine as long as the source model informs that the data changed when it has been loaded20:48
bara1how can i install qtsensors on the emulator? i get "QtSensors" is not installed when i try this example
artemmajpnurmi: that's what I suspect, still confused because it looks like element is added already. Maybe it's somehow not added fully enough20:48
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artemmafunny, if I ask for data() right after adding item (from adding item code, everything's fine). Maybe filterAcceptsRow is supplied invalid ModelIndex object somehow20:52
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artemmaokay, it looks like I misunderstood sourceParent completely. Apparently it refers to some kind of.. parent object (for tree models?). I was trying to use it as source item locator20:57
jpnurmiartemma: the model index passed to filterAcceptsRow() is the _parent_ so it's an invalid index for any top level item that doesn't have a parent20:57
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artemmajpnurmi: thanks for the help. Everything works now. I can filter on whatever I want just fine21:02
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jpnurmiartemma: np :)21:03
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suyI noticed this: "Warning: specifying an object instance for initialPage is sub-optimal - prefer to use a Component" // Why is suboptimal? Isn't the component only for delaying the load on demand? And for the first page is always loaded anyway, isn't it?21:44
khertanAhoy !21:44
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jpnurmisuy: the initial page doesn't necessarily have to remain alive. it's a valid use case to replace() the initial page21:56
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suyjpnurmi: OK, that makes sense. But still, the warning could be a "maybe", I think.21:58
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zbenjamincoderus_: ping22:07
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ottuloanyone wanna file a bug report for mitäkuuluu for me? I don't feel like making an account just for that...22:39
ottuloand I checked, it's not in open nor closed issues atm22:39
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ottuloor if you get it from here coderus_: when a new message notification appears while typing a message, the message is split on a new line22:40
ottuloodd... it doesn't seem to do that all the time22:44
ottuloasked a friend to send messages while I type :D22:44
ottuloalso, I have selected enter as the send-button, so I couldn't have typed in a line break by accident22:45
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ln-Tumeez: off-topic22:59
TumeezSorry :(22:59
TumeezI'm happy!22:59
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