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| artemma | Submitted new Quick Launcher to harbour. Starts apps more proper way now (can start browser too) and faster. Try it early if you want at http://bit.ly/quicklauncher3 | 00:23 |
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| artemma | special thanks to special :) | 00:25 |
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| sledges | artemma: just tried it out :) | 00:49 |
| sledges | useful when you have loads of apps | 00:49 |
| sledges | good work | 00:50 |
| artemma | sledges: thanks, seems to start apps faster now | 00:50 |
| * artemma is not sure how much time it saves to be honest. Idea is good, but milliseconds matter, IMHO it should get ready for typing two times faster to be really useful | 00:50 | |
| artemma | well, will have a look at store comments and likes. If there's demand, I have some optimization ideas | 00:51 |
| * sledges just seen the tweet: "got my jolla today, and installed 100+ apps from jolla,yandex,and [another android store]. Why? Because I can" :D <- your target audience artemma :) | 00:52 | |
| artemma | sledges: that's cool! | 00:52 |
| artemma | I have 4 screens of apps only, to me launcher saves *a little* of time | 00:52 |
| sledges | https://twitter.com/JollaFTW/status/424573288807800832 | 00:53 |
| sledges | ping them ;) | 00:53 |
| artemma | sledges: thanks for the idea! | 00:54 |
| sledges | np, and thank you :) | 00:54 |
| artemma | you are welcome sledges. Give a like in store in twitter if you can - comments are the best help for the developer in free app market | 00:57 |
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| Venemo | artemma, sledges: there're some things better than comments: 1) Retweeting 2) 'Like' button in Jolla store ;) | 01:54 |
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| coderus | artemma: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6801089/ | 04:38 |
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| AL13N | Hartzi: MouseEvent doesn't have a Rect? | 07:02 |
| jpnurmi | AL13N: a rect? | 07:06 |
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| Hartzi | AL13N: wut? | 07:46 |
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| walokra | if I dynamically resize a label and then again resize it (panel from side), the label doesn't fit the original width | 10:10 |
| walokra | it keeps the width of the 1st resize | 10:10 |
| walokra | so, is there a way to redraw some label? | 10:13 |
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| jpnurmi | walokra: fill the label with a rectangle to see its actual geometry. perhaps it's just not eliding/clipping/wrapping to its width? | 10:15 |
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| walokra | rect behaves as it should. it doesn't update the geometry after 2nd resize | 10:30 |
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| walokra | seems that after animation (drawer) the label doesn't get the width right | 11:50 |
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| juke | how do i completely remove an app? | 11:57 |
| juke | i think qsettings is left behind even after uninstall | 11:59 |
| juke | found it | 12:05 |
| juke | in ~/.config/ | 12:05 |
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| coderus | why ever peoples removing configs of deleted applications? searching for every single files and deleting it? | 12:33 |
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| thp | coderus: ping | 14:32 |
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| juke | i'm trying to build many apps from same code base using symbolic links, but rpm doesn't follow them and now i have in /usr/share/app/ qml -> ../qml | 14:50 |
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| juke | what files do i need to fix to have the qml dir outside of the project directory | 14:54 |
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| juke | i guess the problem is in the .yaml-file | 14:55 |
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| juke | sailfish documentation talks about a .prf file, i haven't seen one | 15:00 |
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| juke | found it | 15:01 |
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| coderus | thp: pong | 15:15 |
| coderus | artemma: ping | 15:15 |
| coderus | artemma: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6801089/ | 15:16 |
| artemma | coderus: ? | 15:16 |
| coderus | juke: why symlinking project? set up correct paths in project file | 15:16 |
| coderus | artemma: its how jolla-lipstick launching apps | 15:16 |
| artemma | ah, got it | 15:17 |
| artemma | thanks | 15:17 |
| artemma | where is it from? | 15:17 |
| coderus | artemma: but i dont think it useful :) | 15:17 |
| coderus | from /usr/bin/lipstick of course :) | 15:17 |
| artemma | I solved yesterday issue with openUrlExternally. That is fast and works fine except that it doesn't show Loading.. preview card | 15:18 |
| juke | coderus, i tryied that, but then building the rpm failed, i guess i don't understand the yaml format | 15:18 |
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| juke | i'll have to ask about this again later, off for now --> | 15:21 |
| coderus | artemma: yes, its lipstick launcher behaviour to show "Loading" :) | 15:23 |
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| artemma | coderus: will see if I can make lipstick show loading.. from code you show, it looks like it's a part of QML code that reacts on the icon press.. maybe not requestable from outside of lipstick | 15:29 |
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| coderus | artemma: yes its useless outside :) | 16:19 |
| coderus | just showed you how it works | 16:19 |
| jupaja | so noone has an idea ? —> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92495 | 16:28 |
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| coderus | jupaja: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/880227/what-is-the-minimum-i-have-to-do-to-create-an-rpm-file | 16:35 |
| coderus | jupaja: https://www.suse.com/communities/conversations/building-simple-rpms-arbitary-files/ | 16:35 |
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| jupaja | coderus: thanks so its still the folder problem | 16:37 |
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| cos- | is it possible to set which calender new events are added? | 16:54 |
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| coderus | jupaja: try to login to sb2 inside vm and rpmbuild here | 16:58 |
| jupaja | coderus: sb2? | 17:01 |
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| artemma | coderus: thanks | 17:02 |
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| Hartzi | is there any way to check which item caused a signal x? For example if x number of buttons opens the same drawer, how I can check which button it was? I need that info on the drawer. | 17:13 |
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| Hartzi | or is there any better way to do it? :P | 17:15 |
| Acce | Hartzi: give each button an objectName and propagate it with the signal? | 17:15 |
| Acce | or propagate any other property that distinguishes them | 17:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hartzi: better or worse, depending: use C++ Qt signals and use sender() ? | 17:16 |
| Hartzi | I'm using qml | 17:17 |
| Hartzi | there is a sender() in qml? | 17:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hartzi: sadly no :( | 17:17 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | so do what Acce said | 17:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | use a property or an objectName and propagate it | 17:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you can even send the sender itself as a property of a signal | 17:18 |
| Hartzi | okay | 17:18 |
| Hartzi | sounds good idea but I don't remember how to do it | 17:19 |
| Acce | just put the object / property to the brackets: someSignal(data) | 17:19 |
| Acce | and for clarity you should add it to the declaration too, although I think it works even without doing so | 17:21 |
| Hartzi | like onClicked(this)? | 17:21 |
| Acce | yeah, I think it went so | 17:24 |
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| Hartzi | QTC doesn't like it :| | 17:26 |
| Acce | hmm | 17:26 |
| Hartzi | I have to make another signal to propagate something? | 17:27 |
| Acce | you have some Item, for which you defined a custom signal onClicked? | 17:27 |
| Hartzi | okay it isn't a custom singnal. I used mouseareas onCliked | 17:27 |
| Acce | so all your buttons have their own MouseArea? | 17:28 |
| Hartzi | yup | 17:28 |
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| Acce | so why not define some function for the drawer, which you can call when onClicked? | 17:29 |
| Acce | and give the clicked object as that functions parameter | 17:30 |
| Hartzi | Good idea. I'll try that | 17:31 |
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| Hartzi | okay that method doesn't work | 17:53 |
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| Hartzi | oh sorry, it does | 17:59 |
| Hartzi | just failed a little :) | 17:59 |
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| jupaja | coderus: thanks for your help but the makro return all the time the wrong path will try it a next time | 18:03 |
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| Acce | Hartzi: what went wrong at first? Just so I can be careful if I need to do it sometime | 18:13 |
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| jupaja | coderus: got it :D no its just a Failed to validate the created desktop file | 18:20 |
| jupaja | error :D | 18:20 |
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| Hartzi | Acce: well I didn't use a function. I just declared few properties in a draver and I just set them drawer.propertyname = something. The thing that I first made wrong was I forget that I have to use drawerName in drawerName.propertyName to access the data. I just used propertyName | 18:22 |
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| Acce | Hartzi: ok, I see! glad you got it working | 18:31 |
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| Hartzi | yup :) | 18:32 |
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| hoelzro | is there a QML api one can use to talk to HTTP servers? | 18:40 |
| hoelzro | or do I just have to drop down to C++ for that? | 18:41 |
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| Nicd- | there are websockets for qml at least | 18:41 |
| hoelzro | hmm | 18:44 |
| hoelzro | I don't know if that will work for my purposes, but it's good to know =) | 18:45 |
| Nicd- | I've been thinking I'd drop to C++ though, the APIs seem more stable | 18:45 |
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| kkszysiu | hey guys, so as I understand SailfishOS UI and stuff is not open sourced yet, right? | 18:52 |
| jupaja | what packed is needed to buld rpm with the emulator? have insatll rpm-bulid but this error lock like that some thing is missing + /usr/lib/rpm/meego/find-docs.sh /home/nemo/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/shutdowngraphic-0.1-1.i386 or? | 18:53 |
| jupaja | found the awnser in the log thanks! | 18:59 |
| Sidde | how do i prevent the screen from sleeping inside my application? | 18:59 |
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| AL13N | kkszysiu: afaik sailfishOS UI and jolla apps | 19:04 |
| kkszysiu | Do you know is there any plans to open source it? | 19:04 |
| AL13N | hoelzro: Nicd-: but isn't QML basically javascript, which means you should be able to use ajax calls in some way? | 19:04 |
| Acce | I think you can use JS's HTTPRequests even for "external" sources in QML | 19:06 |
| AL13N | shouldn't this give an SSL warning, like the Origin thing? | 19:07 |
| Acce | at least the app from loechtefeldmarkus "Weather" uses pure QML and accesses Yahoos weather | 19:08 |
| hoelzro | it's worth looking at | 19:09 |
| hoelzro | good idea, AL13N | 19:09 |
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| jupaja | how I get the icon in to the folder? desktop-file-install is not doing this? | 19:14 |
| Acce | kkszysiu: I think I read somewhere that Jolla will publish the sources when they have decided how to coordinate the open development, but don't know | 19:14 |
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| john24 | hey guys, it is possible to have another qml page is dialog? | 19:58 |
| john24 | essentially i want a swype to the left to confirm settings as it works in the most of the UI | 19:59 |
| john24 | but it seems that it's not just a button but a dialog | 19:59 |
| john24 | it is possible to pagestack.push to second qml page as a dialog? | 19:59 |
| Acce | john24: just make a Dialog instead of Page, Dialog is based on Page so it can be pushed to the stack | 20:00 |
| AL13N | you can pagestack push it and remove it when confirmed again | 20:00 |
| AL13N | oh, even better | 20:00 |
| john24 | ahh so replace page with dialog? | 20:00 |
| Acce | yeah, Dialog functions like a page, but you can swipe it left to accept it, and it has onAccepted and onCanceled signals | 20:01 |
| john24 | oh wow | 20:02 |
| john24 | works like a charm :D | 20:02 |
| john24 | Thank you :) | 20:02 |
| Acce | no prob :) | 20:02 |
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| john24 | so it's best to use the header to indicate action to the left? | 20:03 |
| john24 | by the bubble | 20:03 |
| Acce | you can use a DialogHeader, and it has acceptText or similar property | 20:04 |
| Acce | I don't remember the exact name | 20:04 |
| john24 | thanks for that I'll find it now :) | 20:04 |
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| john24 | anothewr question if you don't mind do you need to enable animation? because it just seems to open it | 20:05 |
| john24 | but I am sure there should be a nice annimation | 20:05 |
| john24 | when opening a dialog page | 20:05 |
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| jupaja | Where go the png file when buliding rpm? | 20:08 |
| jupaja | have it in usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/ but it is not instlled with desktop-file-install | 20:09 |
| Acce | john24: hmm... I think there is a parameter you can pass to the push, something like PageStackAction.Animated? | 20:09 |
| john24 | thanks I'll try to find it | 20:11 |
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| coderus | john24: use dialog.open() | 20:22 |
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| DarkSim | Awesome, Nexus 4 support! | 20:26 |
| DarkSim | If only I bought it :( | 20:26 |
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| Milo- | Is there a dbus interface for accessing ambiences/network statuses/account statuses? | 20:36 |
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| stephg | Milo-: depends | 20:48 |
| stephg | probably/yes/probably are the answers | 20:49 |
| stephg | whether you're allowed to talk to them from an app (for the harbour, currently) is another matter | 20:49 |
| Milo- | okay, I might have to write a sniffer. | 20:49 |
| Milo- | ah | 20:49 |
| Milo- | then I'll just be another kind of fish. | 20:49 |
| Milo- | selfish. | 20:49 |
| stephg | depends what you're wanting to do | 20:50 |
| stephg | (also not trying to be negative, am not a dev, don't know the rules either specifically so take what I say with a pinch of salt) | 20:50 |
| stephg | certainly for the network/account stuff that comes from the nemo middleware | 20:50 |
| Milo- | I think it's better to ask for forgiveness than for permission | 20:51 |
| stephg | so you'd do worse than to have a poke around that | 20:51 |
| stephg | https://github.com/nemomobile | 20:51 |
| Milo- | basically I want to turn off certain things and then turn them on again later | 20:51 |
| Milo- | pretty much what I think ambiences should do, if they worked like real profiles. | 20:52 |
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| Acce | Milo-: make it happen and maybe it will become official :) | 20:57 |
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| Milo- | first I need to sniff some dbus events to see if it can do stuff "safely", and then I need to get my head wrapped around the qml stuff. | 20:58 |
| jupaja | coderus: Thanks!!!! for Your help got it to work :D will ping u when app is on onpenrepos.net hard way is some time the best way :D | 20:58 |
| Milo- | back in the olden days, when I learnt to do QT, we didn't have no fancy things called qml :P | 20:58 |
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| Acce | Milo-: I think you can do everything from Qt still, using QWindow? | 20:59 |
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| Milo- | yep | 20:59 |
| Acce | well, personally I think Qml is pretty neat for building up the UI, much like building a web page with Html, but easier | 21:00 |
| juke | compared to the xml horror of android, qml is nicer | 21:00 |
| Milo- | I heard nice things about QML's dbus integration | 21:01 |
| juke | and those states are so good | 21:02 |
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| Acce | juke: I haven't really used states much yet, what are they best for? | 21:06 |
| * stephg absolutely nothing, say it again! | 21:06 | |
| juke | Acce, for ui states, like click button -> change ui state to represent program state | 21:08 |
| juke | i don't know how to explain it, sorry :D | 21:08 |
| Milo- | I'm unable to find any information on how to use dbus from qml-'code'. | 21:09 |
| Acce | like, different modes? can you change groups of elements to different elements? | 21:09 |
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| juke | i'm not sure, atleast you can change visibility and enable stuff | 21:12 |
| juke | probably you can do anything you like | 21:12 |
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| Acce | Milo-: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-dbus <- maybe this has something to do with it? | 21:14 |
| Milo- | I guess I just have to read the source to know how to use that | 21:16 |
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| Acce | yep, the documentation apparently lacks quite much so far | 21:20 |
| Milo- | kimmoli seems to be a huge QML guru, maybe I need to contact him ._· | 21:21 |
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| Acce | who is kimmoli? Qt / Jolla active? | 21:32 |
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| AL13N | Milo-: he seems more a hw guru | 21:40 |
| Milo- | AL13N maybe he's just a all-around guru. | 21:40 |
| AL13N | :-) | 21:40 |
| Milo- | 30 000 line logfile from turning mobile data connection off and on again. | 21:40 |
| Milo- | it's going to be fun tracking what was sent to initiate the chain. | 21:41 |
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| Acce | does someone happen to know, how to assign a property null value in QML? | 21:53 |
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| Acce | oh, is kimmoli the guy making the OLED TOH? | 22:07 |
| faenil | yep | 22:07 |
| Acce | cool | 22:11 |
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| AL13N | Acce: i just did "property Type varname: null;" | 22:58 |
| AL13N | null should be valid for any ClassType | 22:58 |
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| krnlyng | does anybody know where i can find the GLES devel packages? | 23:04 |
| AL13N | pkcon search name dev | grep -i gles | 23:05 |
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| krnlyng | AL13N: http://pastebin.com/r0LAHsKM | 23:08 |
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| AL13N | don't know anything about that | 23:10 |
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