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| artemma | WARNING [/usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/harbour-flashlight.png] File must not be executable (current permissions: 755) | 00:49 |
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| artemma | ha?? | 00:49 |
| artemma | in the source folder permissions are -rw-r--r-- 1 artem staff 7551 Nov 23 18:02 harbour-flashlight.png | 00:49 |
| artemma | is rpm setting executable bit somehow? | 00:50 |
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| artemma | .spec seems to have a way to force exact file attribute, but it has to be specified before some files… so has to be in a part generated by .yaml | 00:56 |
| artemma | how do I set file attributes in yaml? | 00:56 |
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| artemma | never mind, defattr works in .yaml too | 01:05 |
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| artemma | Harbour validation script tells validation failed yet there are zero warnings :/ | 01:05 |
| artemma | I guess I just try submitting then | 01:05 |
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| n9mx | Stskeeps: Hi Carsten. Is your FOSSDEM talk going to be video recorded? | 03:05 |
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| dafox | good morning all! Does anyone know if it is possible to see information about the sim-card on the jolla phone? I've cut down my sim to micro-sim, and forgot to save the simcard number that is printed on the card. However I think that number should also be on the card (readable by software, e.g. it seems iPhone can do it). I think what I am looking for is the ICCID. Any ideas, perhaps poking around somewhere in /sys? | 06:37 |
| tbr | querying ofono might be a good bet | 06:38 |
| special | ofono-tests, /usr/lib/ofono/test/list-modems. | 06:39 |
| dafox | tbr, special: thank you, looks like I'll need to install that first. Unfortunatly I can't do that right now since I'm on a public wifi right now, and for some reason my jolla can't get past the log-in page :( | 06:41 |
| chriadam | lpotter: ^ captured portal issue? | 06:42 |
| * lpotter grumbles | 06:43 | |
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| lpotter | known issue. sorry | 06:43 |
| tbr | for me this was a browser issue, last time I was at a hotel with captive portal | 06:43 |
| special | dafox: gdbus call -y -d org.ofono -o /ril_0 -m org.ofono.SimManager.GetProperties | 06:43 |
| special | you're welcome :p | 06:43 |
| dafox | chriadam: yes, I think so. They redirect all webpages to their login page. | 06:44 |
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| dafox | special: awesome, there is a lot of info there. I think it is the CardIdentifier I'm looking for? | 06:47 |
| dafox | or the SubscriberID? I was going to switch providers, and would like to keep my current phone nr., for which they need the 'simcard id' | 06:48 |
| special | "CardIdentifier" "Contains the Integrated Circuit Card Identifier (ICCID) and is read directly from the SIM." | 06:49 |
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| special | SubscriberIdentity is IMSI | 06:50 |
| dafox | special: thank you! | 06:50 |
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| dafox | chriadam: btw, is that a known issue? | 06:59 |
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| dafox | (and would you like me to make e.g. a wireshark capture of logging in on my laptop?) | 07:01 |
| artemma | Phone is hot, Hunger meter shows 2.6-3+ W when running no apps (and email sync was finished 5 min ago), top shows lipstick and timed each taking 35% of CPU. Seriously? | 07:06 |
| special | journal? | 07:06 |
| artemma | msyncd, contactsd and crash-reporter- take about 35% each too (yes, makes it well over 100% - probably 2 cores) | 07:07 |
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| artemma | special: can't ssh in, jolla doesn't connect to wifi | 07:07 |
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| artemma | ah, maybe that's related and one of the reason why jolla completely freezes down on connectivity problems | 07:07 |
| special | that's a lot of things, and all of them are Qt-running daemons | 07:08 |
| special | it's interesting if they're all trying to eat the CPU at once. | 07:08 |
| special | er, not sure about crash-reporter | 07:08 |
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| artemma | special: if you can tell some fingerterm command to show useful journal entries on a tiny screen, I'll run it | 07:08 |
| artemma | oh maybe i reboot quickly and journal entries are still there | 07:09 |
| special | no | 07:09 |
| special | devel-su, journalctl -a > crazy-cpu-journal.log | 07:09 |
| special | reboot and review the file | 07:09 |
| artemma | trying | 07:09 |
| artemma | saved, rebooting | 07:10 |
| artemma | special: analyzing it is beyond me anyway. You want to get file to email? | 07:11 |
| artemma | or pastebin can be better probably | 07:11 |
| special | uploaded somewhere might be better. Probably too big for pastebin. You can mail it to john.brooks@jolla.com if you like and I'll see if anything jumps out tomorrow | 07:12 |
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| special | for now I'm going to adhere to the no-debug-logs-after-midnight rule | 07:13 |
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| special | (also note that it could contain all sorts of sensitive information) | 07:19 |
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| chriadam | uhoh | 07:29 |
| chriadam | msyncd, contacts + crash reporter, suggests that one of the two at least is crashing. my money would be on msyncd tbh. | 07:29 |
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| special | sounds like you want to take responsibility | 07:30 |
| special | feel free :> | 07:30 |
| artemma | dump is on laptop, who wants it to his email except for john brooks? :) | 07:31 |
| artemma | special: it's not you, is it? | 07:31 |
| special | hm? | 07:31 |
| * artemma thinking about email text | 07:31 | |
| special | john.brooks@jolla.com is me | 07:31 |
| artemma | ah, ok | 07:31 |
| special | cc chris.adams@jolla.com :> | 07:31 |
| chriadam | chris.adams@jollamobile.com too please artemma | 07:31 |
| chriadam | err, @jolla.com i mean | 07:32 |
| artemma | special, chriadam done | 07:33 |
| chriadam | tyvm | 07:34 |
| artemma | .me running to office now | 07:34 |
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| chriadam | i can't see any "exited with status 11" style segfault entries in that log. if something is crashing, i'd expect to see something there tbh. certainly, all of those network issues could just mean that the contactsd roster stuff is going nuts, but I dunno. | 07:40 |
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| special | timed, lipstick.. | 07:40 |
| special | (I haven't looked yet) | 07:40 |
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| kaltsi | artemma: the file permissions become 0755 because of the build engine.. you can put %defattr and %attr lines to the files section in yaml to fix it | 08:45 |
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| artemma | kaltsi: thanks, solved yesterday with it | 08:46 |
| kaltsi | ok | 08:46 |
| artemma | guys, are there any news on when app store issues are likely to be fixed? My app update is trying to get through for 8 days already.. | 08:46 |
| kaltsi | for some historical reason the build engine mounts user's home directory so that it sees all files with 0755 access rights, I wasn't around when that was made so I don't really know why it does it.. perhaps it has something to do with windows hosts | 08:47 |
| tbr | artemma: as you were told, there are backend issues. I expect they are doing their best and your app will get updated as everything else will once those issues are solved. | 08:51 |
| artemma | tbr: uhm.. yes, that's why I asked if anybody has an idea when it's likely to be fixed | 08:55 |
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| artemma | tbr: also sorry, but experience tells me that individual app things in jolla app store get forgotten unless I ask in this chat (happened at least 2-3 times by now), developer comms didn't work for me ever (3 questions to developer-care are not answered for over a month), so I can't know if it's my app-only issue by now without asking here | 08:56 |
| tbr | artemma: look at the store, if updates start coming through, ask again, but I would probably wait until the platform update gets released. | 08:57 |
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| kaltsi | artemma, juke libQt5v8 will be replaced with another library in Qt5.2 which is most probably why it's not allowed in harbour now | 10:18 |
| artemma | kaltsi: that's understandable. Then I am surprised even helloworld links to it according to ldd | 10:18 |
| kaltsi | here's some discussion about it http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/33278 | 10:18 |
| artemma | or maybe helloworld links to it indirectly, but via something else? | 10:19 |
| special | artemma: everything using QtQml needs V8 in 5.1 | 10:19 |
| kaltsi | helloworld? do you mean the default template application? | 10:19 |
| artemma | yep | 10:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: how is it linked ? | 10:20 |
| kaltsi | hmm for me the validator script does not complain about it | 10:20 |
| * artemma doesn't know how to ask ldd or any other tools to show link hierarchy | 10:20 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe v8-private is not allowed | 10:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however, v8 is | 10:20 |
| artemma | to be precise I analyzied linking for HelloWorld Pro, but it's in harbour for ages by now | 10:20 |
| special | v8-private isn't a separate library, it's just headers. | 10:20 |
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| kaltsi | artemma: I just built helloworldpro on my machine and it passes the validator script | 10:26 |
| artemma | kaltsi: it does. Look at "ldd /usr/bin/harbour-helloworldpro" | 10:26 |
| artemma | or whatever was the binary name | 10:27 |
| artemma | it shows some not allowed libs, V8 among them | 10:27 |
| artemma | why I need to know linking hierarchy at all: I am bundling with app a couple of libs (most notably gstreamer) and have to bundle everything they link to except if they link to allowed system stuff | 10:28 |
| artemma | that was my thinking at least | 10:28 |
| kaltsi | you can see how the validator checks the dependencies in the github repo where the allowed libs are | 10:29 |
| kaltsi | it's not using ldd but objdump -x harbour-helloworld-pro-sailfish | grep NEEDED | 10:29 |
| kaltsi | ldd shows all the deps of those needed libs too | 10:29 |
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| artemma | kaltsi: thanks, didn't know about objdump, will check it out | 10:33 |
| kaltsi | the problem with v8 comes if your app directly links it I guess | 10:34 |
| * artemma never used objdump before | 10:34 | |
| kaltsi | you'll love it :) | 10:34 |
| artemma | will it show the library if one of my sublibs links to it? | 10:34 |
| artemma | I bundle gstreamer into app. What if gstreamer then links to something not allowed? | 10:35 |
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| artemma | I guess it will pass current harbour checks, but it's bad anyway, I want to bundle everything not allowed what gtreamer needs too | 10:36 |
| artemma | or maybe then I just ran objdump on gstreamer's .so files.. | 10:36 |
| lbt_ | artemma: ldd -v I think | 10:38 |
| kaltsi | I think the script does that | 10:38 |
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| kaltsi | it uses objdump also for the libs you ship | 10:38 |
| artemma | lbt_: thx, I'll try | 10:39 |
| lbt | heirarchical linking (I found out myself recently) | 10:39 |
| artemma | kaltsi: how does it know it needs to check them? | 10:39 |
| kaltsi | because they're in your package | 10:39 |
| artemma | ah, so it checks all the binaries inside package | 10:39 |
| artemma | ok, thx | 10:39 |
| lbt | artemma: I found a bug in the validator/process (actually in Qt) - so it's worth finding out why things break | 10:40 |
| artemma | interestingly yesterday, checker script told me that validation failed, but there was zero warnings | 10:40 |
| artemma | I still submitted the package then (as there were zero warnings), we'll see what QA says | 10:40 |
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| kaltsi | artemma: interesting, which package is it, I'd like to test it | 10:41 |
| artemma | kaltsi: newest flashligth package | 10:41 |
| artemma | flashlight | 10:41 |
| kaltsi | ok I'll ask if I can get it | 10:41 |
| artemma | kaltsi: if you just need rpm, you can fetch it at http://bit.ly/flashlight23 | 10:42 |
| kaltsi | thanks I'll try that | 10:42 |
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| kaltsi | ERROR [/usr/share/harbour-flashlight/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0] Cannot link to shared library: libdl.so.2 | 10:43 |
| kaltsi | the Libraries part fails for me | 10:43 |
| artemma | kaltsi: script inside QtCreator didn't show it | 10:44 |
| kaltsi | interesting.. I'm running it inside qtcreator | 10:45 |
| artemma | I included libdl initially, but then there was no warning, so I removed it | 10:45 |
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| artemma | kaltsi: i didn't upgrade to latest sdk. Could that influence? | 10:45 |
| kaltsi | artemma: what's your script version.. you can see it when it's run near the beginning | 10:46 |
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| kaltsi | current one is "RPM Validation script v1.4-10.7.1.jolla" | 10:46 |
| artemma | lemme start creator.. | 10:46 |
| artemma | kaltsi: can't see script version anywhere in Sailfish os harbour tools tab | 10:48 |
| artemma | nor when I click validate | 10:48 |
| artemma | ah, stupid me! | 10:48 |
| kaltsi | only if you validate a package with it :p | 10:48 |
| artemma | Output from script was so long, that I was seeing the bottom part only! | 10:49 |
| artemma | All the bottom messages were PASSED | 10:49 |
| kaltsi | ok.. so you have the failure there? | 10:49 |
| * artemma didn't realize there was a scrollbar | 10:49 | |
| artemma | yeah, I see errors now, thanks | 10:49 |
| kaltsi | :) do you see the error bar there | 10:49 |
| kaltsi | scroll bar sorry | 10:49 |
| kaltsi | or don't you have it? just interested in how it works in people's environments | 10:50 |
| artemma | I have a scrollbar, I just didn't realize it exists | 10:50 |
| kaltsi | ok good | 10:50 |
| artemma | you know tab-like layout.. I didn't expect it to have a scrollbar | 10:50 |
| artemma | hmm, why is it telling INFO [/usr/share/harbour-flashlight/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0.30.0] Private shared library shipped | 10:50 |
| artemma | oh.. that's just info.. for who? | 10:51 |
| kaltsi | it's just info for you | 10:51 |
| kaltsi | like "you do know what you're doing" | 10:51 |
| artemma | it's a pity I cannot pull update back from harbour, will burden testers with not needed work | 10:51 |
| kaltsi | every test that has some output but has PASSED in the end is ok.. those that have ERROR have also FAIL | 10:51 |
| Yaniel | flashlight. . gstreamer. . huh? | 10:52 |
| Yaniel | also 0.10 :( | 10:52 |
| artemma | Yaniel: that's how led is rolling nowadays :) | 10:52 |
| Yaniel | what the actual... :D | 10:53 |
| Yaniel | I mean it works nicely but still.. gstreamer? | 10:53 |
| artemma | on the other hand I guess it's faster than to wait for QtMultimedia initialization | 10:53 |
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| artemma | Yaniel: don't tell anybody, but current in-store version actually starts gst-launch process in the background :D | 10:54 |
| artemma | this new version at least creates proper objects. And is way faster therefore | 10:54 |
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| Yaniel | whatever floats | 10:55 |
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| artemma | ERROR [ld-linux-armhf.so.3(GLIBC_PRIVATE)] Dependency not allowed | 11:59 |
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| artemma | What is it and how to deal with it? Harbour FAQ doesn't seem to mention anything about it | 11:59 |
| artemma | kaltsi: maybe you know | 11:59 |
| artemma | or maybe kontio | 11:59 |
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| artemma | I supply ld-linux-armhf.so.3 together with the app | 12:00 |
| kontio | artemma: in which section is it? | 12:00 |
| artemma | Requires | 12:01 |
| artemma | ======== | 12:01 |
| artemma | ERROR [ld-linux-armhf.so.3(GLIBC_PRIVATE)] Dependency not allowed | 12:01 |
| artemma | FAILED | 12:01 |
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| artemma | or shall maybe __requires_exclude help even if message is different | 12:01 |
| * artemma trying | 12:02 | |
| kontio | artemma: yes should be https://harbour.jolla.com/faq#2.7.0 | 12:02 |
| kaltsi | that's a strange lib to ship though | 12:02 |
| artemma | kontio: error message is different | 12:02 |
| artemma | tryn=ing it anyway | 12:02 |
| artemma | kaltsi: gstreamer needs it apparently | 12:02 |
| artemma | i was adding libs step by step as errors were telling something's missing | 12:03 |
| artemma | maybe it uses it for loading plugins | 12:03 |
| kaltsi | that's the linux dynamic loader | 12:03 |
| artemma | okay, excluding helped | 12:04 |
| artemma | thanks you guys! | 12:04 |
| artemma | flashlight all green now | 12:04 |
| artemma | I mean blue - the harbour script OKay color :) | 12:04 |
| artemma | why does qt creator try deploying to the first device in the list of devices even though I set another one as default one? | 12:05 |
| * artemma uses different ip addresses on different networks | 12:06 | |
| kaltsi | you need to set the device in the kit settings | 12:06 |
| artemma | Manage kits, yes | 12:06 |
| artemma | ah, got it! | 12:06 |
| artemma | thanks | 12:06 |
| kaltsi | I'm not sure what the "default" device means tbh | 12:07 |
| artemma | probably one for new projects | 12:07 |
| artemma | rrr, my jolla lost wifi connection yet another time | 12:08 |
| * artemma really hopes some connection fixes make it to the coming firmware update. constant reconnections and freezes on reconnection are pain in the bottom | 12:09 | |
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| artemma | fixed flashlight dependencies and submitted to harbour. Here's RPM link http://bit.ly/flashlight24 kaltsi, kontio: thanks a lot! | 12:46 |
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| Nicd- | MY APP WAS APPROVED! | 12:49 |
| Nicd- | <3 | 12:49 |
| Nicd- | now let's wait for the angry comments | 12:49 |
| Tofe | Nicd-: WeeCRApp ? | 12:49 |
| artemma | Nicd-: do you collect MY DATA?! :D | 12:49 |
| Nicd- | it's in the store! | 12:51 |
| Nicd- | Tofe: no, SailTime | 12:51 |
| Nicd- | artemma: yes, I send it to NSA, FSB, FDF and my mom | 12:52 |
| artemma | Nicd-: is it PUBLISHED or only APPROVED? | 12:53 |
| Nicd- | published | 12:53 |
| * sjn found SailTime in the Jolla shop | 12:53 | |
| Nicd- | it said approved in the dashboard view in harbour | 12:53 |
| artemma | oh, so most of app store functions fine, it's only few apps (mine only?) that got stack | 12:53 |
| Nicd- | but when I view all "my apps" it says published | 12:53 |
| artemma | oh, so most of app store functions fine, it's only few apps (mine only?) that got stuck | 12:54 |
| BearT | Nicd: also found SailTime in the store. quite a nerdy app ... I guess that's why I like the idea | 12:59 |
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| Nicd- | hehe | 13:01 |
| Nicd- | the cover is somewhat ugly, maybe I should fix it | 13:02 |
| Nicd- | pull requests welcome :) | 13:02 |
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| joonahoi | Nicd-: what's the github repo? | 13:15 |
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| Sail0r | https://bitbucket.org/Nicd/sailtime/ | 13:24 |
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| joonahoi | ok, ty | 13:27 |
| ln- | btw, what happens if i've manually installed some harbour-something rpm, and later a newer version of it becomes available in the store? will it update as one could expect? | 13:28 |
| Sail0r | yes | 13:30 |
| Sail0r | had the same thing with tethering | 13:30 |
| Sail0r | installed it via rpm | 13:31 |
| Sail0r | and afterwards it came available in harbour | 13:31 |
| Sail0r | and it updated automatically from store | 13:31 |
| ln- | good | 13:31 |
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| Nicd- | joonahoi: https://bitbucket.org/Nicd/sailtime/ as Sail0r said | 13:47 |
| Nicd- | you can also open it from the app's about page | 13:47 |
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| artemma | SailTime is cool for uptime, but what are the other three unlabeled numbers it shows? :) | 13:51 |
| Acce | artemma: system load averages, just not sure which is which | 13:52 |
| Acce | it said something like that in the description | 13:52 |
| artemma | averages in.. which units? | 13:52 |
| Acce | hmmm percents? :) | 13:52 |
| artemma | like CPU load percent? | 13:53 |
| artemma | or probably more like CPU core load percent | 13:53 |
| juke | artemma, probably man uptime | 13:53 |
| Acce | "load averages for 1, 5 and 15 minutes" | 13:53 |
| Acce | soo, CPU load percentage average for those times is my guess | 13:54 |
| Raim | the system load does not have a unit, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_%28computing%29 for an explanation | 13:54 |
| juke | cpu load and system load are different things | 13:54 |
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| Nicd- | artemma: I could make it more clear, yes | 14:25 |
| Nicd- | I'll insert labels for the next version | 14:25 |
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| Nicd- | but load averages don't have a unit | 14:25 |
| Nicd- | artemma: can you report an issue? ;) | 14:25 |
| artemma | Nicd-: uptime on its own is cool already! | 14:25 |
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| artemma | sure if you were really working for NSA, you could also collect people uptime tricking them into sharing data for cool graphs and leaderboards and badges like "your uptime is within top 10 in Finland!" | 14:25 |
| Nicd- | yep | 14:25 |
| artemma | Fortunately data of Jolla people can never be bought for such silly features :) | 14:25 |
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| Aard | who wants to buy data? how much? :) | 14:53 |
| Venemo | :D | 14:54 |
| artemma | Aard: doesn't matter, jolla users don't sell it at whatever price! | 14:54 |
| artemma | how much you'd pay though..? | 14:54 |
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| Aard | artemma: oh, I thought you wanted to make an offer for data we collect on phone side | 14:54 |
| * joonahoi is already creating a tar.gz of his dick pics | 14:54 | |
| juke | nice | 14:55 |
| Tofe | subtil :D | 14:55 |
| artemma | Aard: my capital isn't on par to the task yet | 14:55 |
| Aard | artemma: you don't know how cheap I am :p | 14:56 |
| artemma | Aard: you don't know how I am :P | 14:56 |
| Venemo | Aard: maybe you could put a checkbox in the jolla accound settings: "yes, I agree to selling my data to the NSA" | 14:56 |
| artemma | well, it's more about finding further buyer, I won't sit on data myself | 14:56 |
| Aard | Venemo: problem is that we'd start collecting data worth selling first :p | 14:57 |
| * artemma thinks world of SW would be so much simpler if everybody switched to NSA account. No more mess with google, yahoo, jolla, dropbox accounts, whatever | 14:57 | |
| Venemo | Aard: you already own a bunch of email addresses and personal details, don't you | 14:57 |
| artemma | there's same nsa account behind anyway | 14:57 |
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| Venemo | lol artemma :) | 14:58 |
| Aard | Venemo: not much personal details. the 'my details' thing you fill in when you start the phone is local to the phone only, we don't have access to that | 14:58 |
| Aard | so we "only" have what you used to order the phone, and create the jolla account | 14:58 |
| Venemo | Aard: ah, so you don't even steal my contacts' details? | 14:59 |
| Aard | no, sorry. | 14:59 |
| Venemo | :D | 14:59 |
| * artemma wants his app updates to be published in store.. how long it could take to solve a database issue for a few records… sigh | 14:59 | |
| Aard | you could suggest it as opt-in feature on together, if you think it's important to have that :p | 14:59 |
| Venemo | he already did, IIRC | 15:00 |
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| Aard | Venemo: we even don't have access to your mail account credentials (like blackberry did) :p | 15:00 |
| tbr | or all your email content... | 15:01 |
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| Venemo | allright, I was just kidding ;) | 15:04 |
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| faenil | bb used it for the Travel app though, didn't it...it didn't have access if you didn't install that app | 15:05 |
| faenil | of course it needs your emails if you want it to tell you which travels you'll be doing | 15:05 |
| faenil | automatically | 15:05 |
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| Aard | faenil: no, they used it to speed up account creation. they'd log in to your email account from their servers, guessing correct parameters, and then sending the correct config options to your device once it works | 15:18 |
| joonahoi | Aard: nokia did so too | 15:18 |
| faenil | Aard, mm | 15:18 |
| joonahoi | i had e75 at the time | 15:18 |
| Aard | joonahoi: yes, but nokia did not go advertising about being especially careful about privacy and security | 15:18 |
| joonahoi | yeah, but they still did it without any warning | 15:19 |
| joonahoi | i stumbled upon it by checking my mail server logs, because i wasn't able to get my mail account to work with the phone | 15:19 |
| joonahoi | (it couldn't handle @ in the user name with the automatic account verification) | 15:19 |
| joonahoi | saw all those failed attempts from something.something.nokmia.com | 15:20 |
| Aard | joonahoi: I didn't say it was right what nokia did, just that imo for blackberry it was even worse due to the 'we keep your shit safe' promise | 15:20 |
| joonahoi | yes, that's true | 15:20 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi ! | 15:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | my sdk is behaving really strangely | 15:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | cannot connect to webapp | 15:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (from QtC) | 15:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and from browser it throws a | 15:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.6 | 15:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Protocol mismatch. | 15:57 |
| kaltsi | Sfiet_Konstantin: where do you try to connect with browser? | 15:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: firefox: localhost:2222 | 15:58 |
| kaltsi | try 8080 | 15:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ah | 15:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: something runnign | 15:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | indeed, I should know that 2222 is for SSH | 15:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well ... it is loading but nothing really loads | 15:58 |
| Waitee | 22 is for ssh | 15:59 |
| kaltsi | hehe.. can you login to the mersdk build engine | 15:59 |
| kaltsi | and once there check if 'rackup' process is running | 15:59 |
| joonahoi | Waitee: 2222 is for ssh in the dev virtual machines | 15:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: well, suddenly everhting is frozen | 15:59 |
| Waitee | joonahoi: oh okay | 15:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | timeout from QtC | 15:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ssh connection not responding | 15:59 |
| kaltsi | Sfiet_Konstantin: what have you done lately with your build machine? .. could it be out of disk space | 16:00 |
| kaltsi | could you try stopping it from virtual box and starting it again | 16:00 |
| joonahoi | Sfiet_Konstantin: seems to be responding (at least something) | 16:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: did several time | 16:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it freeze very quiuckly | 16:00 |
| joonahoi | Sfiet_Konstantin: try ssh -vvvv -p 2222 localhost | 16:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | let's try to restart | 16:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | joonahoi: I can connect to the VM | 16:01 |
| joonahoi | that's (very) verbose output | 16:01 |
| joonahoi | ah, ok | 16:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is the vm that just suddenly freeze | 16:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | right ... right now the vm refuses to stop | 16:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | etc. | 16:01 |
| kaltsi | Sfiet_Konstantin: have you updated anything in your host? | 16:01 |
| kaltsi | like kernel or virtualbox | 16:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: kernel, and I installed the vbox moule accordingly | 16:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | module | 16:02 |
| kaltsi | which kernel and vbox version btw? | 16:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: do you think that a reboot will help | 16:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Linux celestia 3.12.8-300.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jan 16 01:07:50 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 16:02 |
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| kaltsi | "it might".. | 16:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | vbox 4.3.6 | 16:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | let's try then | 16:03 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | damn, frozen again | 16:08 |
| kaltsi | :( | 16:09 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | the SDK don't like connecting to web app | 16:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it seems | 16:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | let's try again | 16:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: indeed, seems that webapp kills everything | 16:10 |
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| kaltsi | Sfiet_Konstantin: strange.. have you checked that you're not running any other service in port 8080 already? | 16:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: well, I have nothing to be run on 8080 | 16:12 |
| kaltsi | check netstat -ant and | 16:12 |
| kaltsi | -anu just to be sure :P | 16:12 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | nothing | 16:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm sure | 16:13 |
| kaltsi | nod | 16:14 |
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| kaltsi | ok if you restart the mersdk and don't go into the webapp yet.. login to it with ssh and see what's going on | 16:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: ok | 16:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm on the sdk | 16:14 |
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| kaltsi | the webserver is/should be running.. 'rackup' | 16:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I also have this "Project ERROR: Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server." | 16:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | when trying to deploy an RPM | 16:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :/ | 16:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: rackup is running | 16:15 |
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| kaltsi | something to do with the ssh connection to either mersdk or emulator there | 16:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I can connect to mersdk :) | 16:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and to nemo too | 16:16 |
| kaltsi | have you reinstalled the sdk recently? | 16:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (emulator) | 16:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, yes | 16:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | like a month ago I guess | 16:16 |
| kaltsi | but it worked after that? | 16:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: yes, just yesterday I wanted to code someting and nothing is working anymore :( | 16:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe I should reinstall ? | 16:16 |
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| kaltsi | if you do reinstall, remember to remove the ~/.config/SailfishAlpha3 directory after you have run the uninstaller | 16:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and also the .scratchbox2 ? | 16:17 |
| kaltsi | it's very difficult to guess what might be the problem | 16:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will for for a reinstall I guess | 16:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thx a lot kaltsi | 16:17 |
| kaltsi | the .scratchbox2 is not important to remove | 16:17 |
| kaltsi | Sfiet_Konstantin: no prob, I hope reinstall works for you | 16:18 |
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| juke | can qml element have a javascript object as its property? | 16:37 |
| artemma | juke: yep, use type var | 16:38 |
| juke | something like: property var obj: { "asd": 1 } | 16:38 |
| artemma | I am not sure you can define it inline like this though | 16:38 |
| artemma | check QML docs, there was something specifically abt it | 16:39 |
| juke | lists seem to work | 16:39 |
| juke | but i really need dict | 16:39 |
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| juke | oh, {} works too | 16:40 |
| juke | nice | 16:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: no luck | 16:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | don't seems to work | 16:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (at least webapp thing) | 16:42 |
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| kaltsi | very strange.. I can't think of a reason for it not to work | 16:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | let me try to deploy | 16:44 |
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| kaltsi | if it fails, could you pastebin the whole compile output from qtc | 16:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | exactly the same symptom | 16:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | failing | 16:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | http://pastebin.kde.org/pviwwzry9 | 16:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | let me try something | 16:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | one sec | 16:47 |
| kaltsi | could you add to your host's /etc/hosts file SailfishSDK | 16:47 |
| kaltsi | as 127.0.0.1 | 16:47 |
| kaltsi | something like this: | 16:47 |
| kaltsi | 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomain localhost SailfishSDK | 16:47 |
| kaltsi | that has worked for some.. I don't know why | 16:47 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: geez | 16:50 |
| kaltsi | that should fix your deploy case at least | 16:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you know | 16:50 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | the SDK works perfectly fine | 16:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the problem is elsewhere | 16:50 |
| kaltsi | ok? | 16:50 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: I mised what you said | 16:51 |
| kaltsi | could you edit your HOST's /etc/hosts file and add SailfishSDK as an alias for 127.0.0.1 there | 16:51 |
| kaltsi | that works for some people for some reason | 16:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: well, here the problem is the hotspot wifi | 16:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :/ | 16:52 |
| kaltsi | it might have something like 127.0.0.1 localhost there already.. just add SailfishSDK at the end of that line | 16:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | under linux: it first refuse any connection | 16:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and then proceed as usual | 16:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | this, somehow, crashes all connections (deployment / webapp) | 16:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :/ | 16:52 |
| kaltsi | uhhuh | 16:52 |
| kaltsi | but please try that /etc/hosts trick and let me know if it works | 16:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | alright | 16:53 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: thanks | 16:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | deployment now works :) | 16:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | funnily, the control center still crashes :D | 16:58 |
| kaltsi | :( | 16:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: this isn't your issue | 16:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | this is the problem of the wifi hotspot | 16:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's weired actually | 16:58 |
| kaltsi | ok.. I wonder if the need to add that line to /etc/hosts also has to do with your hotspot | 16:59 |
| kaltsi | there are some people who have required it, but I haven't found a pattern yet | 16:59 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: so, deployment now works, but actually the webapp seems to try to connect to the hotspot to solve updates etc. | 17:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | since this do not work, the webapp is stuck | 17:03 |
| kaltsi | 5 mins after the mersdk boots up, it will do a 'zypper refresh' for itself and all the targets | 17:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: what I did is: I turn off the wifi, and then have access to the webapp | 17:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I clicked on the update tab | 17:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and turned on the wifi | 17:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and tried to click on the update button: freeze | 17:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and if I turn off the wifi again, no more freeze | 17:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :/ | 17:05 |
| kaltsi | :( | 17:05 |
| kaltsi | if you ssh to the mersdk, can you ping for example www.google.com from there or does that also fail | 17:06 |
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| kaltsi | if you haven't installed the updates to the sdk yet, then you have a webapp that tries to fetch jquery.js from the net.. in later versions that is a local file | 17:07 |
| kaltsi | or jquery.min.js actually | 17:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: If I turn on the internet, I cannot ssh | 17:08 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | I cannot even use the vm | 17:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | everything is freeze :/ | 17:08 |
| kaltsi | what kind of an ip address do you get from there? | 17:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm trying to change dns and see | 17:08 |
| kaltsi | perhaps 10. something that might collide with the internal network that is set up for the virtualmachines | 17:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | 192.168.1.X | 17:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: one more sec, rebooting wifi to use different dns | 17:09 |
| kaltsi | okely dokely | 17:09 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: DNS change is not working either | 17:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I really wonder | 17:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | how come everything is blocked, even SSH | 17:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and even the VM itself | 17:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you cannot interact with anything | 17:10 |
| kaltsi | I don't know.. maybe something in the routing table goes wrong | 17:11 |
| kaltsi | what does 'route -n' show for you | 17:11 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | eh ? | 17:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | something happened | 17:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | weired | 17:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | super weired | 17:12 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: one sec | 17:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: on the host or the sdkvm ? | 17:13 |
| kaltsi | both | 17:13 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: http://pastebin.kde.org/ptvqax5ep | 17:15 |
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| kaltsi | hm in general looks ok I guess.. the interface names in host are interesting | 17:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: fedora way of doing | 17:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | nothing to worry about | 17:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: referring of "enp0s26u1u2" ? | 17:19 |
| Yaniel | aka "predictable interface names" | 17:19 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: anyway | 17:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | don't worry too much | 17:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the /etc/hosts trick already makes my live easier | 17:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks for the help | 17:22 |
| kaltsi | Sfiet_Konstantin: sorry but my ideas seem to stop here... I lack knowledge about the ip stack to be able to do any useful debugging :P | 17:23 |
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| kaltsi | but in general the virtualbox is supposed to create a NAT interface from your localhost to the virtual machine.. maybe something in that routing goes wrong | 17:23 |
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| kaltsi | Sfiet_Konstantin: one more thing that may/may not help.. have you installed the virtualbox extension pack? I think it asks you to do so when you run it.. at least it did so for me | 17:25 |
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| kaltsi | you can check it from virtualbox manager / preferences / extensions | 17:25 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | kaltsi: no extension pack | 17:26 |
| kaltsi | Sfiet_Konstantin: ok.. I checked from kontio, and he doesn't have it either, so maybe it's not relevant | 17:28 |
| kaltsi | but if you want to try, one can be downloaded from here https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads | 17:28 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | k | 17:29 |
| kaltsi | well loks like it has nothing about networking though | 17:29 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | well ... | 17:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | anyway, don't worry | 17:29 |
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| kaltsi | ok.. it's just curious, I would like to understand why it happens for you in case this becomes a more common problem :) | 17:30 |
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| Nicd- | how often are harbour stats updated? | 17:31 |
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| gops | hi | 18:07 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi gops | 18:10 |
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| gops | hi Sfiet_Konstantin i have problem while creating a sailfish os app | 18:11 |
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| gops | Sfiet_Konstantin: the qt creator is not creating the device | 18:12 |
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| gops | hi | 18:18 |
| gops | unable to create a device in qt creatore | 18:18 |
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| joonahoi | gops: creating what device now? | 18:20 |
| jake9xx | gops: SDK version? | 18:21 |
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| gops | joonahoi: i am creating a device in qt creator | 18:22 |
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| gops | joonahoi: it says SSH connection failure: Connection refused | 18:23 |
| gops | Device test failed. | 18:23 |
| gops | jake9xx: i dont know how to check the version | 18:23 |
| Acce | gops: are you trying to connect to emulator? | 18:24 |
| gops | jake9xx: SailfishOSSDK-Alpha-1310-Qt5-linux-64-offline this is the SDK version | 18:24 |
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| Nicd- | gops: is your phone connected with developer mode USB? | 18:24 |
| gops | Acce: yes | 18:24 |
| Acce | hmm, well try downloading the newer SDK first | 18:24 |
| gops | Nicd-: no no phone is connected only emulator | 18:24 |
| Nicd- | ah, emulator | 18:24 |
| Acce | there is 1312 out already | 18:25 |
| gops | Acce: ok let me try that :) | 18:25 |
| balta | hey, next week I want to present the Jolla and the Sailfish UI concepts to my colleagues (I'm working at a small german app/web developing company). Sadly the Jolla has no HDMI output and the emulator has no jolla apps installed. Does anybody here know a way to get the jolla default apps installed on the emulator or better, a way to get the screen of the jolla remotely, something like vnc? | 18:25 |
| gops | thanks for the help | 18:25 |
| jake9xx | gops: wanna go with 1312, use the updater. | 18:25 |
| jake9xx | 1312 is the sdk to deliver the device support | 18:25 |
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| gops | jake9xx: can i use the update button in qt creator | 18:26 |
| Acce | jake9xx: should deploying to the actual device already work? I didn't know that | 18:27 |
| joonahoi | balta: i don't think it's possible, the emulator uses different (virtual) cpu arch | 18:27 |
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| jake9xx | Acce: sure, it works ok | 18:28 |
| Acce | oh | 18:28 |
| jake9xx | gops: yes, that's the way to go | 18:28 |
| jake9xx | Acce: thing is, in windows pc you might need a bigger ssh timeout than 2s ; some 10-15s is just fine. | 18:28 |
| Acce | where do I set the device ip etc? | 18:28 |
| jake9xx | Acce: the device creation widget in qtc | 18:28 |
| balta | joonahoi: I know that, I was hoping there exists some x86 repository :( | 18:28 |
| Acce | okay, thanks a bunch, had not noticed such a thing | 18:28 |
| jake9xx | https://sailfishos.org/develop-firstapp-article.html | 18:29 |
| jake9xx | 'Set ARM kit to deploy to device' | 18:29 |
| joonahoi | balta: there is for the core parts, but not the apps afaik | 18:29 |
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| balta | so do you know some remote desktop server for sailfish? or do I have to use the component gallery? :( | 18:35 |
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| Yaniel | huh? | 18:35 |
| Acce | well, since it's wayland, most old stuff for vnc and stuff probably won't work.. | 18:36 |
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| juke | what QML api i should you for detecting locale?, Qt.locale().name is C | 18:37 |
| Acce | balta: can't you get an overhead projector or document camere? | 18:37 |
| Acce | juke: on the emulator? | 18:38 |
| juke | phone | 18:38 |
| juke | language is finnish | 18:38 |
| Acce | hmm | 18:38 |
| Acce | I used QLocale in c++ and it got it right.. also in QML Date.toLocaleString() works correctly | 18:39 |
| juke | i just need to know the name of thet language | 18:39 |
| * artemma just realized that he was probably pushing debug builds to app store all the time.. Unless Deploy RPM command in creator makes release builds | 18:39 | |
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| balta | Acce: in case of need that would be an idea, thanks :) | 18:40 |
| artemma | I wonder how much speed I am loosing | 18:40 |
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| Acce | I'll check if Qt.locale() is working for me, if not it could be a bug / unfinished feature | 18:40 |
| jake9xx | artemma: should not if you select deployment not to be debug.. well it might create the debug rpm as well, don't file that one in | 18:40 |
| Acce | balta: np :) | 18:40 |
| balta | btw I also get just "C" as locale on my phone... | 18:40 |
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| artemma | jake9xx: Isn't deploy command packaging whatever the current run configuration is? | 18:41 |
| juke | balta, qml or c++? | 18:41 |
| artemma | I always keep it in debug during development and didn't change for deployment | 18:41 |
| balta | I just tried c++ yet | 18:41 |
| jake9xx | artemma: should be | 18:41 |
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| jake9xx | you can see it from the run config icon (above deploy IIRC) | 18:42 |
| * artemma wonders how much is speed/memory difference between debug and release builds for a small QML app | 18:42 | |
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| balta | Qt.locale() or reading the environment variable... it was a few days ago... | 18:42 |
| jake9xx | artemma: not much, but in debug build the symbols are in | 18:42 |
| artemma | jake9xx: menu just says Deploy project project name | 18:42 |
| jake9xx | artemma: no, not menu.. wait | 18:42 |
| artemma | oh well, next builds will be a little smaller then :) | 18:43 |
| jake9xx | click the lower sailfish icon | 18:43 |
| artemma | that is if app store ignorance to my updates will be fixed :) | 18:43 |
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| artemma | jake9xx: I know how to select debug/release stuff normally, was not sure about rpm specifics if any | 18:43 |
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| artemma | three days for fixing app store db issue is quite a lot.. | 18:44 |
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| jake9xx | artemma: true, I was out of office today | 18:44 |
| jake9xx | sent request 'what is going on' | 18:45 |
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| juke | Acce, QLocale::system().name() is also "C" | 18:45 |
| artemma | jake9xx: thanks | 18:46 |
| Acce | juke: I got it, deploy as rpm and restart your app from the icon | 18:46 |
| artemma | 10 days for a routine small fix release is about 2-3 days slower than apple app store btw | 18:47 |
| Acce | looks like the SDK passes C as locale when running from there | 18:47 |
| artemma | just FYI | 18:47 |
| jake9xx | ooh, got a reply | 18:47 |
| Acce | just tested and it worked by restarting | 18:47 |
| juke | Acce, oh, thanks | 18:47 |
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| juke | locale is en_US, system language is finnish | 18:48 |
| artemma | jake9xx: and reply is? | 18:48 |
| juke | though i launched from shell | 18:48 |
| Acce | juke: hmm for me it shows correcly fi_FI, even with Qt.locale() | 18:49 |
| Acce | maybe it's because the shell evn variables are set to en_US? | 18:49 |
| Acce | I get fi_FI even from shell | 18:50 |
| juke | does ssh carries env variables over | 18:50 |
| juke | carry* | 18:50 |
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| Acce | I think it should use those on the device, shown by command "locale" | 18:51 |
| jake9xx | artemma: ... so hmm | 18:51 |
| juke | Acce, launching from icon works | 18:51 |
| juke | i had a typo | 18:51 |
| juke | thanks | 18:51 |
| Acce | ok, it looks like starting via SSH does something, it shows C for me when started from SSH | 18:52 |
| jake9xx | artemma: managed to find a guy working the issue, stay tuned | 18:52 |
| artemma | hope it's fixed soon | 18:53 |
| Acce | yep, running "export LC_ALL=fi_FI.UTF-8" changed it when starting via SSH | 18:53 |
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| artemma | it's funny that issue is specific to my apps | 18:53 |
| jake9xx | artemma: he's getting your stuff by hand | 18:54 |
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| jake9xx | artemma: yeah! I got the stats a while ago and it did not have any 'special' gap.. but maybe it's just you :) I've got similar stuff ; if something can go wrong in any computerized account creation - it fails with my name/address/id | 18:54 |
| artemma | i am usually the other way around - computers are afraid of me :) | 18:55 |
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| artemma | let's hope on day 10 update gets through :) | 18:56 |
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| jake9xx | artemma: well.. problem is how store manages updates and harbour sometimes conflicts with that flow | 18:57 |
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| Nicd- | btw, is sys/sysinfo.h available in sailfish? | 19:02 |
| jake9xx | Aard: ^ | 19:02 |
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| artemma | 425405 liked taloussanomat according to Jolla App Store | 19:19 |
| artemma | Talous Sanomat must be real popular among Jolla users :D | 19:19 |
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| Hartzi | seems to be good magazine ;D | 19:27 |
| mikma | is it the only magazine to have a jolla app? :P | 19:29 |
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| Acce | it's so popular, that even readers without a Jolla downloaded it, looking at the numbers | 19:32 |
| Acce | mikma: well, I guess so, if you don't count rss reader Tidings, which is many magazines in one :p | 19:33 |
| hzb | hmhmh. should I do something more than pagestack.push(Qt.resolvedUrl("foo.qml"), {param: value}) and initialize that property param on the foo.qml page (inside Page element) to see it? read many examples and tried but just can't figure out.. | 19:33 |
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| Acce | hzb: is the page pushed properly? | 19:35 |
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| Acce | you don't have to initialize the property in the foo.qml's root, declaring is enough | 19:36 |
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| hzb | Acce: I have the page on stack yes, but unable to see that param - I tried to declare and I tried to initialize | 19:37 |
| Acce | hmm, it works for me as you describe it.. anything on the console? | 19:38 |
| Acce | like, "cannot assign" errors? | 19:38 |
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| hzb | Acce: nothing that seems to help me, it's just undefined. I'm calling push inside delegate ListItem so that I try to pass index variable to the other page to be able to fetch particular "record" from the model | 19:39 |
| Acce | ah | 19:40 |
| Acce | that can be sometimes tricky, I've noticed | 19:40 |
| Acce | try saving index to a JS variable first | 19:40 |
| hzb | Acce: I see the model, if I hardcode the index I get data, but I cannot pass the index value | 19:40 |
| Acce | or try making a function which takes the index, and call that in the onWhatever instead of pushing directly | 19:41 |
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| Acce | afaik the index does not work sometimes when used directly in the javascript part of QML | 19:41 |
| hzb | Acce: tnx, I'll try, let's see.. First I try to save index into some variable and pass that. | 19:44 |
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| Acce | also, if what I suggested so far does not work, pageStack.push(yourpage); pageStack.currentPage.param = index; might do it | 19:47 |
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| fsck_you | Right, so I installed sailfish in my N9 and zypper is asking for authentication. My Jolla account doesn't work. What do? | 20:00 |
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| mike7b4_on_x230 | hi folks, today my Jolla died in reboot loop and recover seems not work, my linuxbox do see usb but seems jolla does not activate usb network, phones just shows jolla logo and fastboot on top. | 20:02 |
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| hzb | Acce: \o/ wohoo, onClicked: { pageStack.push(); pageStack.currentPage.param = index; } seems to do the trick. not sure how elegant is this, but it works.. | 20:10 |
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| hzb | (I omitted push parameters above, of course there is the url etc) | 20:10 |
| hzb | Acce: so thanks a lot! I can continue with the actual stuff.. that particular problem took quite a lot time.. | 20:11 |
| Acce | hzb: glad it worked, you're welcome :) | 20:11 |
| hzb | Acce: It's still a mystery to me why I just cannot pass that index variable directly even if it's possible to display it in Item { } inside that same ListItem | 20:12 |
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| Acce | hzb: yeah.. I have a feeling I used it directly somewhere and it worked, but haven't figured it out yet. But most probably it has something to do with the namespaces; it could be some of your parent elements had index property too | 20:14 |
| Acce | and it mixed that with the delegates index | 20:14 |
| Acce | since children can refer to their parents properties without id | 20:14 |
| Acce | I always add the id just to be sure | 20:14 |
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| hzb | that seems logical, but I also tried to point it with explicit listViewIdHere.CurrentIndex but without success | 20:15 |
| Acce | hmm, hopefully someone wiser will appear and enlighten us :) | 20:16 |
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| hzb | maybe I'll/we'll figure it out some day.. Just now I'm just happy to continue with the actual logic of the app.. | 20:17 |
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| Acce | hzb, yep, it's sometimes annoying to get stuck with the small things! Like I did yesterday, for some reason my app just crashed without any messages | 20:18 |
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| Acce | and by disabling elements one by one I found out it was because I had ListItem as delegate for something, no idea why it caused a crash | 20:18 |
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| artemma | How do I force to show/hide on screen keyboard again? | 21:05 |
| artemma | and well, how do I check if it's shown? | 21:05 |
| artemma | would also like to see it's dimensions to resize accordingly.. or maybe page is resized automatically then? | 21:06 |
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| Jonni | artemma: I think that vkb show/hide was answered in devel mailing list few days ago. | 21:12 |
| artemma | Jonni: thx, I'll have a look | 21:12 |
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| Jonni | or in together, but I remember seeing that one just a while ago. | 21:13 |
| * artemma stopped actively reading list after switching to Jolla - no convenient way to have a second active folder next to inbox | 21:13 | |
| artemma | thanks, Ill check | 21:13 |
| aivot-on | Alright, just got Jolla and downloaded the SDK. Where do I go now? Drunken dev-foolery is always a good thing but the sdk is not drunk-user-friendly | 21:14 |
| aivot-on | :( | 21:14 |
| Jonni | artemma: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.sailfishos.devel/2254 | 21:14 |
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| artemma | awesome! Thanks, Jonni! | 21:15 |
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| BearT | is there an easy way to get the text of the currently selected MenuItem in a ComboBox? | 21:24 |
| BearT | i tried comboBoxId.menu[comboBoxId.currentIndex].text but thats obviously wrong | 21:24 |
| artemma | I added timestamp logging to qDebug and.. on device QML console output doesn't go through qDebug.. bummer | 21:24 |
| artemma | on emulator it does | 21:24 |
| Yaniel | where does qDebug even go? | 21:25 |
| artemma | Yaniel: to cout | 21:25 |
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| Yaniel | on the device I mean | 21:26 |
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| Acce | would it be possible to point qDebug and console.log to a file? | 21:26 |
| artemma | to cout | 21:26 |
| Yaniel | ok | 21:26 |
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| artemma | Acce: google qInstallMessageHandler | 21:26 |
| Yaniel | stdout, that is | 21:26 |
| artemma | Acce: although as I just discovered, QML console logs on device don't go there somehow :) | 21:27 |
| artemma | but C++ logs do | 21:27 |
| Yaniel | we need debug output to qt creator like in de olde nokia days | 21:28 |
| artemma | Yaniel: stdout is exactly what QtC shows :) | 21:28 |
| artemma | maybe stderr too | 21:28 |
| Yaniel | from the device? | 21:28 |
| artemma | yes | 21:29 |
| Yaniel | oh, so you can actually debug on device already? nice | 21:29 |
| artemma | apparently on device qml logs somehow go through the different message handler.. | 21:29 |
| artemma | Yaniel: well, if logs for you are enough of debugging, then yes | 21:30 |
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| artemma | Acce: @faenil just posted http://qtway.blogspot.it/2009/11/persistent-logging-for-debug-purpose.html | 21:30 |
| Yaniel | ofc stacktraces and breakpoints help a lot | 21:31 |
| Yaniel | but logs are a good start | 21:31 |
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| Acce | artemma: thanks, I'll take a look | 21:35 |
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| BearT | fyi i got the text of the combobox by using internal(?) stuff in combobox like this comboBoxId.menu._contentColumn.children[comboBoxId.currentIndex].text | 21:47 |
| BearT | hacky but works for now | 21:47 |
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| BearT | hmm, when building my stuff for x86 everything works fine. i get my rpm files in my local build output. when compiling for arm i only get a successfull compile but no rpm. of course i can't deploy, since there is no arm device connected, but does that mean the arm rpms are not created either? | 22:17 |
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| BearT | nevermind, you have to use deploy function in the gui i overlooked the last time. of course the run button is greyed out and ctrl+b only builds the code | 22:19 |
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| Andrwe | hi, for me the property Qt.application.version is empty after compiling the app although Qt.application.name is set correctly. The .yaml and .spec files of my project both specify the version. Is the support of Qt.application.version missing on sailfish or am I missing a setting which has to be configured? | 22:27 |
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| jpnurmi | Andrwe: you need to call QCoreApplication::setApplicationVersion("...") in c++ | 22:32 |
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| Andrwe | jpnurmi: why is it needed for version but not for e.g. name and arguments? and can I refer to the values set in .yaml because otherwise I have to remember to change this call on every version update? | 22:34 |
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| jpnurmi | Andrwe: application name defaults to the executable name if not set | 22:35 |
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| jpnurmi | i have the version duplicated in .spec and .pro (where i specify a macro that is used in c++) | 22:37 |
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| Andrwe | jpnurmi: k, thx; maybe I'll find a way to avoid multiple definition but for now I'll use the call you gave me | 22:39 |
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| * artemma was trying to speed up quick launcher by moving part that reads app list to c++ side, but.. measurements showed it's simple qml list rendering that actually eats time, not file access | 22:44 | |
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| artemma | Andrwe: check Wikipedia code. It propagates version numbers from .yaml down to qml - https://github.com/amarchen/Wikipedia/blob/master/rpm/harbour-wikipedia.yaml | 22:47 |
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| Abby27 | I give you some pictures. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 22:50 |
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| Andrwe | artemma: thx very much, works like intended | 22:53 |
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