Friday, 2014-01-31

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fengshaunis it possible to get sailfish os running on galaxy nexus?00:44
fengshaunis there a compatibility list somewhere+00:44
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Yanielin theory yes00:46
Yanielbut there is no official support and no guides for doing so00:46
fengshaunoh, sour00:46
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coderus Mitakuuluu  v0.1-23 update. New protocol, bugfixies and nice bubbles chat skin.  Mandatory update 06:00
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Bloobwell, since we're advertising: :)06:06
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mike7b4_webHI, my Jolla is now reboot looping :-/ and recover with volume down seems not work :(08:08
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mike7b4_webWhen connect to linuxbox it find my Jolla and setup eth1 without address/netmask and when I set it manually to:  sudo ifconfig eth1 netmask up and telnet to I get Unable to connect?08:09
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max87any sailfish rom available ( or will be available ) for galaxy s plus ( i9001 ) ?08:22
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jake9xxmax87: you might wanna talk to vgrade , he's been posting the youtube links. Basically everything you need is our repos08:24
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max87ok. thx08:46
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coderusw00t: jake9xx: is there any *fix* for landscape framebuffer in
jake9xxcoderus: whaddyamean?08:54
coderusjake9xx: just in case you may ask my question inside jolla08:55
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coderusi'm asking because in AppWindow rotation TOTALLY broken08:56
coderusi suppose it caused by trying someone to fix orientation08:57
coderusand i want to know if i right or not :)08:57
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jukkaeklundcoderus, which device you run that on?08:58
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veskuhcoderus, do you have gconf value for /desktop/jolla/components/screen_rotation_angle defined?09:05
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coderusveskuh: hmm no, its unset09:07
veskuhcoderus, that should define needed base change so for landscape panel it should be set. It at least used to work and be the correct way.09:08
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veskuhI haven't taken a look at portrait/landscape panel in ages but it used to be so that you just had to define that for landscape panel devices and all silica apps worked just fine09:10
veskuhand home, vkb, etc. but like I said last time I looked at these things was in X11 ages09:11
coderusveskuh: eh. its usable now, but...09:11
coderusi'll take a picture09:11
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pp* Wed Jan 29 2014 Joona Petrell <> - 0.16.1409:12
pp- [homescreen] Support landscape in Connection selector. Fixes JB#1517109:12
ppLast moment changes in that area at least O:)09:13
coderuspp: what the component?09:13
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coderusveskuh: pp:
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coderusthats how *fix* looks on my N909:15
* coderus gonna to hack lipstick again...09:15
veskuhIs that what stock lipstick and silica or is there hacks?09:16
coderusveskuh: stock09:16
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coderusi need to hack it again09:17
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artemmaQuick Launcher saga continues. 8 days since submission, 4 days since approval by now. Anybody wanna bet when update is actually downloadable in app store?09:27
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Tofeartemma: there's an app for that, but it's still pre-alpha version ;)09:30
artemmaTofe: for betting on app review times? :)09:31
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TofeIs QtJsonDb QML module available in Sailfish ? or even in Qt 5.1 ?09:33
ballockI am intending to hack the call routing.09:35
ballockIdeally to make a telepathy conference between GSM and SIP.09:36
ballockAnd I'll gladly accept some help to get started with it.09:36
ballockThe calls are handled by 'voicecall' package in the UI09:37
ballockand telepathy is used at the backend09:37
ballockbetween them there seems to be a 'call manager'09:37
ballockumm... telepathy-mission-control09:38
ballockStarting trivial, I'd like to know how the current stuff is routed.09:38
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ballockI can't find any configs for that, so perhaps its configured by voicecall with an API.09:39
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ballockSo, does anybody know how/where the telepathy framework is configured?09:41
ballock... ok, so where should I ask?09:44
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veskuhcoderus, btw; did you try different values on the gconf value, as far as I remember 90 degree was right one landscape panel.09:45
artemmaI tried looking a little at optimizations yesterday and it seems that minimal time needed to start app with a listview, a search field and get ready for user input is something like 1300-1600 ms09:48
artemmaI didn't *really* study it hard, but maybe somebody did09:48
artemma1.5 sec is quite a lot, especially without any splashscreens. What are your formal or informal experience regarding app starting time?09:49
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coderusveskuh: it rotating, but width not changed.09:53
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veskuhcoderus, right, I think silica just hardcodes the shorter one as width09:54
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coderusno, it using Screen,width as width09:55
veskuhcoderus, there is Screen qml-type in Silica09:57
veskuhand that's what I was refering to09:57
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winfrieddcoderus: I installed Mitakuuluu 1.24. Can you explain how to download the avatar picture? Can't get it to work...10:24
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coderuswinfriedd: click avatar and click save button10:37
winfrieddAnd then it should appear in the gallery ?10:45
coderusyes, probably :D10:46
winfrieddBecause no matter how may times I click on the cloud icon, nothing appears in the gallery...10:46
coderusits copied to /home/nemo/Pictures/%110:46
winfrieddOn my phone /home/nemo/Pictures has no %1 subdir10:50
coderusits filename placeholder, its not a (sub)dir =|10:52
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winfrieddAh ok. But no avatars in the Pictures directory10:54
winfrieddI checked also via terminal10:55
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coderusthen its not working10:57
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matokingI seem to have found a bug with Slider11:20
matokingNamely, if I try to set the maximumValue to audio.duration (which is the length of the Audio element)11:20
matokingThe handle and  the value text aren't visible11:20
matokingIf I set it to a static value like 50000, they are visible11:21
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Accematoking: are you sure your audio element is initialized at that moment? no "cannot assign" errors?11:23
matokingIt updates correctly according to the audio's length and current position11:24
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Sail0rwhat are the requirements for XMLHttpRequest(); to parse xml?11:26
matokingIt seems to break if I change the maximumValue11:26
Sail0ri always have an empty connection.responseXML11:26
Sail0rbut connection.responseText is filled with xml ...11:26
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matokingNvm, it seems to break if it's given an invalid value11:28
matokingAlthough it doesn't seem to log an error11:29
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coderusmatoking: try parseInt(audio.duration)11:29
matokingI did fix it already11:29
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Accematoking: sometimes no errors are given, when it would matter yeah.. let's hope it gets better eventually11:31
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matokingI had assigned the maximumValue to audio.duration11:31
matokingAnd I thought that even if it did get an invalid value at first11:32
matokingIt would start behaving normally once it got an actual number11:32
matokingLike it did, except that value text and the handle became invisible11:32
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matokingIf you set both minimumValue and maximumValue to 011:36
matokingIt breaks11:37
matokingIf you set maximumValue to -1 instead it works11:37
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Accematoking: weird stuff, well great you got it working11:53
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makmanalpHello, I'm interested in fiddling with the nokia n9 community port to clear out some of the bugs, like camera not working, etc. Anyone know anyone here who's working on that?11:58
makmanalpand also, does anyone know if the android compat layer is closed source and ONLY for official ports or it exists for all ports, and just needs to be fixed to work?12:00
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VDVsxmakmanalp, closed source, 3rd party solution12:45
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coderusmatoking: afaik nobody working on n9 port. only some work at kernel 3.4/512:51
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matoking@coderus You replied to the wrong person :P12:57
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makmanalpcoderus: I found some n9 work13:42
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valdur55old stuff13:51
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Aardcoderus: there isn't _that_ much porting to do. kernel is the main thing, ideally getting wayland perform better, and writing native statefs-providers for some contextkit-bits. rest should just work14:01
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Mellissa93xOxOI found it!14:06
Mellissa93xOxO !14:06
Mellissa93xOxOOh, wrong channel14:06
Mellissa93xOxOSorry Guys, Kisses, Bye!14:06
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makmanalpAard: did you mean me?14:20
Aardyou and coderus. though originally only read his comment :)14:20
Nicd-does anyone know if sys/sysinfo.h is available in sailfish?14:20
AcceNicd-: Can't you find out by just trying?14:21
makmanalpAard: I would love if you could give me anything to read or at least a highlevel overview of how I can get my hands dirty with that14:21
Nicd-Acce: yep, but I can also find out by asking14:21
Nicd-the thing I need it for is in the planning stages14:22
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Aardmakmanalp: android layer won't work on n9, camera is tricky (though might be doable).14:22
Aardmakmanalp: what kind of experience do you have / what do you think you could do?14:22
makmanalplooks like contextkit is basically a wrapper of common nemomobile stuff, so I'd have to implement the interfaces to do n9-specific stuff, right?14:23
makmanalpAard: well, I've done a ton of programming, no mer stuff before but a decent amount of c and I've also worked a bit on KDE for google summer of code14:23
makmanalpI have a reasonable understanding of kernel stuff, but not too deep14:23
kaltsiNicd-: it is part of normal glibc development environment, so yes the header is there14:24
makmanalpI've done the old "write your own syscall" homework that all systems courses seem to have, but that's about it :)14:24
Nicd-kaltsi: ok, thanks :)14:24
Nicd-I'll rewrite the SailTime uptime checking entirely14:24
kaltsiNicd-: haven't you installed the sdk yet? it would have been easy to check with it14:25
Aardmakmanalp: I guess the contextkit/statefs bits would be a good starting point then, that'd allow dropping qt4 from n9 images14:25
Nicd-kaltsi: I have but I haven't had time to do anything with it14:26
makmanalpAard: because mer / nemomobile is qt5?14:26
makmanalpAard: is this what we're talking about?
Aardmakmanalp: sailfishos is qt5, nemo is moving towards qt5 only as well. mer still supports both14:27
makmanalpAard: none of the power stuff seems to use qt at all14:29
Aardmakmanalp: contextkit uses qt14:29
makmanalpoh the tests do14:29
Aardso by them still being contextkit providers you still pull in qt414:30
makmanalpah, and what's the qt5 equivalent that i'd need to rewrite to?14:30
makmanalpoh I see14:30
Aardsailfishos dropped support for contextkit, though statefs has some compatibility apis14:31
makmanalpi just saw statefs-contextkit14:31
makmanalpAard: sorry if i'm nagging you but i just learned more in 5 minutes than I did in the past few hours :)14:32
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makmanalpAard, coderus: looks like some of the n9 contextkit stuff has been ported already:
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matokingI have a GridView with a lot of IconButtons, and I want a ContextMenu to appear when an IconButton is held down for long enough14:34
matokingIt works, but the items below don't move out of the way14:34
Aardmakmanalp: possible, but don't ask me about the exact status, I didn't have time to play with sailfish on n9 in the last few months14:35
matokingI should mention that the ContextMenu is not inside the delegate Item14:36
makmanalpAard: okay, thanks, I'll try to grep through the commit logs14:36
Aarddeztructor: ^^ maybe you can comment?14:36
Aarddeztructor is the guy who wrote statefs14:36
makmanalpah, okay14:37
matokingInstead, I have one ContextMenu on the root, like how it's demonstrated here
makmanalpAard: so the way I understand, most of the device-specific stuff comes from statefs, and then maybe some kernel drivers for nonstandard components?14:37
Aardstatefs is the bit giving middleware and upper layers a view of the state components are in (plus signalling if it changes)14:38
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Sail0ri think it's coming14:38
AardSail0r: yes, we're just doing the final preparations14:39
Sail0rcool :). thank you Aard14:39
matokingI should mention that I meant SilicaGridView when I said GridView earlier :P14:40
makmanalpAard: is it also writeable? i.e. does the nemo / mer code "write" stuff to statefs that, say, turns wireless on and off?14:40
Aardmakmanalp: it's read only (not sure if provider could provide write access, deztructor could answer that)14:42
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makmanalpOk, I'll nag him later :)14:44
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* artemma hopes that after update his struggling QuickLauncher update will eventually make it to store14:51
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deztructormakmanalp: statefs provider api supports write access15:15
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makmanalpdeztructor: thanks! and if I wanted to help port sailfish to the n9, do you know what's next on the list? looks like BME is ported already15:19
makmanalpdeztructor: that's all the contextkit-nemo-n9 seems to have already:
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MellissaTheBest_I found it!15:24
MellissaTheBest_ !!!15:24
MellissaTheBest_No way, wrong channel15:24
MellissaTheBest_Sorry Guys, Love you, Bye!15:24
deztructormakmanalp: there is also hw kbd info support for n95015:24
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deztructorthis is the only left part from contextkit and statefs pov15:24
deztructormakmanalp: contextkit-nemo-n9 is the old stuff, current is statefs-providers15:25
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deztructormakmanalp: there are also location providers that are not ported but n9(50) requires special treamtment, it uses binary daemon to supply location information and this binary is not included in nemo mobile because of licensing limitations15:28
deztructorand it uses nokia protocol to supply location information, while it is partially reverse-engineered and results are documented somewhere, I do not know is it feasible to do smth. with it15:29
deztructorat least, nitdroid guys have not managed to get gps working, iirc15:29
deztructormaybe this is not hard, I do not know15:30
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Nicd-if I deploy a dev version of my app as RPM package to the phone, will it replace the store version?15:33
Nicd-from the SDK I mean15:33
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kaltsiyes.. if you want to be sure, make the SDK built RPM version bigger15:35
kaltsior you can choose not to deploy it as rpm, but as binaries, in which case the binaries and resources are copied under /opt/sdk/appname15:36
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BearT1hey, a system update. if i brick my device by updating, my i hand it to some jolla employee tomorrow in brussels? ;-)16:49
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Nicd-BearT1: probably not16:51
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BearT1Nicd-: so let's hope the update works.16:53
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raa70is there changelog somewhere?17:02
Nicd-yes, on together.jolla.com17:02
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zbenjaminyay new update17:11
Sail0rsave important app settings17:13
Sail0rI lost all my app settings in webcat, irc, screenshot and so on17:13
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seiichiro0185hello there, Just did the Sailfish update an I now see a strange effect. The Location of the LocalStorage DB of my app SailOTP seems to have changed. before the update it was at /home/nemo/.local/share/harbour-sailotp/QML/, now it is at /home/nemo/.local/share/harbour-sailotp/harbour-sailotp/QML18:26
seiichiro0185does anyone else see this?18:26
EztranYes, it's moved.18:26
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seiichiro0185So is this move intentional or is it a bug? I would assume the later, cause I see no real reason for the second harbour-sailotp folder18:29
tortoisedoccan someone quickly remind me18:29
tortoisedocwhat was the trick to make updates for a certain version visible through pkcon?18:30
tortoisedocpkcon release <something>?18:30
tortoisedocfor some reason18:30
tortoisedocmy phone updated to
tortoisedocbut still shows the old update18:30
hzbseiichiro0185: see also
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seiichiro0185well, I just tried the setOrganizationName / setOrganizationDomain fix mentioned by thp in the irc log, unfortunately it doesn't help18:56
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tortoisedocfor the record19:40
tortoisedocversion --dup fixed it19:40
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coderusseiichiro0185: you the same person writing emails to devel mailing list?20:29
seiichiro0185coderus: yes, I also wrote to devel, I go under my real name "Stefan Brand" there20:29
coderusseiichiro0185: okay then you see my answers :)20:30
coderussettings properties doesnt bring old wrong local storage path to your application20:31
coderuszbenjamin: mitakuulu not affected by update20:31
zbenjamincoderus: yep saw it :)20:32
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coderusi'm not using localstorage, i have my own sql backend :)20:32
zbenjamincoderus: btw when you are here anyway. Can't you add a setting to give mitakuulu its own gallery for incoming media?20:32
Morpog_PCzbenjamin, ?20:33
zbenjaminMorpog_PC: ?20:33
zbenjaminMorpog_PC: whats the question20:34
coderuszbenjamin: Morpog_PC didnt understood your question same as me :)20:34
zbenjaminwell you see when i get a picture in Mitakuulu its saved in the same gallery as my own pictures20:35
coderuszbenjamin: i cant create own category inside gallery, if you mean this20:35
zbenjamincoderus: yeah !20:35
coderuspictures is pictures20:35
coderusthere are no way to create another one :)20:35
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zbenjamincoderus: i have a own facebook category/gallery whatever20:36
Morpog_PConly way is to save them in a folder which does not get tracked, but then you don't see them at all in gallery20:36
coderusits implemented in system by jolla ;)20:36
zbenjaminmeee lame ;)20:36
Morpog_PCzbenjamin, it's a good question for tother.jolla.com20:37
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Morpog_PCso that devs can plug in there20:37
zbenjamincoderus: another thing: when i'm in a group chat all users there are automagically added to my mitakuulu contacts which is a bit annoying because i maybe don't even know some of them, happend to me for a birthday invite chat20:37
coderusMorpog_PC: seems i can do it20:38
coderusi test it later20:38
coderuszbenjamin: thanks for the question ;)20:38
zbenjamincoderus: np :)20:38
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Morpog_PCbtw coderus, when you are here :)20:38
coderuszbenjamin: there are settings in application20:38
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coderusand adding unknown contacts are there20:39
Morpog_PCis it a bug that i cannot set a picture for group chat, or just not yet implemented?20:39
Morpog_PCI can select a pic and scale it, but no way to upload it to the group20:39
coderusMorpog_PC: zbenjamin
zbenjamincoderus: for me it says "Accept messages from unknown contacts" in german20:40
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coderuszbenjamin: yes, if option is unchecked contacts from group not appear in your list20:40
zbenjamincoderus: ok but do i see their messages?20:41
zbenjaminin the group chat20:41
jonpackeris there any way I can make a TextField not have a huge amount of padding at the bottom if don't have a label set?20:41
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coderusMorpog_PC: it may be broken after upgrade to new protocol, get log with issue, mail me and create new issue on bugtracker please20:41
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coderuszbenjamin: really i not sure20:42
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coderusnot tested group chats :D20:42
coderuszbenjamin: you can try it yourself20:42
zbenjaminlol not tested ;)20:42
coderusjonpacker: by "padding" you means?20:42
coderuszbenjamin: i'm not using groups in whatsapp :)20:42
cvpis some one work on a Teamspeak Client or a owncloud client ?20:43
jonpackercoderus: I'll take a screenshot, one sec.20:43
coderusi have only one person i write, and some persons writing me sometimes :)20:43
zbenjamincoderus: well i'll just live with the added contacts20:43
coderuszbenjamin: i might need some mtakuuluu testing group chat :D20:44
coderusi remember i have same for wazapp nightly :D20:44
Axel__Does someone know if install sailfish on android devices is possible?20:44
coderusAxel__: everything possible if you port it20:45
zbenjamincoderus: btw wasn't there some settings for location in a earlier version? DId you plan something like that?20:45
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Axel__yes, but I'm not a developer, at the least not a this level >.<20:45
coderuszbenjamin: what you mean?20:46
coderusAxel__: there are no ready to use solutions20:46
zbenjamincoderus: like sharing your location or something like that20:46
coderusif you need it you should do it yourself20:46
Axel__ok, thank you. And do you know if it willl be possible?20:47
coderuszbenjamin: i have no jolla, i cant make gps/audio/video/etc. functions :)20:47
zbenjamincoderus: dude what are you working on? ;)20:47
coderusAxel__: it possible. check youtube demos.20:47
zbenjamincan someone please send a Jolla to coderus?20:47
coderuszbenjamin: i'm working with sailfish on my N920:47
zbenjamincoderus: there is a way to get sailfish on the N9? without the jollaui i guess20:48
coderuszbenjamin: there is a well done nemomobile port, and sailfish workin on top of it well :)20:48
zbenjamincoderus: link? ;)20:48
jonpacker@coderus - first one = how it is, second one = how i'd prefer it20:48
zbenjamincoderus: ah is it the nemomobile + desktop from the SDK?20:49
coderusjonpacker: you can set negative margins ;)20:49
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coderuszbenjamin: no. everything comes from jolla repositories20:50
Morpog_PCcoderus, both done20:50
* zbenjamin needs to do this20:50
zbenjamincoderus: but camera and gps does not work20:50
jonpackercoderus: wow. i thought i tried that, but apparently not. cheers :)20:50
coderuszbenjamin: yes20:50
coderusthere lack of hardware adaptation20:51
coderusonly most important things like display, sound, accelerometer and battery :)20:51
coderusjonpacker: i never tried, but negative spacing inside column might not work (if you using column)20:52
zbenjaminhmpf ;) i hoped for another jolla for free ;)20:52
jonpackercoderus: no I just tried it, it works20:52
Morpog_PCzbenjamin, it's the real deal on N9. but with a few bus and no Alien Dalvik20:52
jonpackerMorpog_PC: it's a bit laggy too, and some of the hardware doesn't work20:53
jonpackerunless that stuff has changed recently20:53
Morpog_PCI'm sure smart people will fix that stuff sooner or later ;)20:53
jonpackeralso it always got confused between portrait and landscape, you'd have to swipe from the top or bottom of the phone to put an app in the background, from the right to close it and from the bottom to open notifications20:54
jonpackerbut otherwise it works good :P20:54
jonpackerfrom the left for notifications*20:55
Morpog_PCjonpacker, I know someone who fixed that20:55
coderusjonpacker: i have my private hack for orientation :D20:55
Morpog_PCerm, lol ;)20:56
coderusMorpog_PC: someone :D20:56
Teguthe new sailfish update actually does it like that20:56
Morpog_PCnope tegu it does not :)20:56
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Teguhm? then I misunderstood20:56
coderusTegu: i didnt understand what are you talking about :D20:57
TeguI meant the swipes. when an app is in landscape mode the swipes rotate along20:58
Morpog_PCsure, but on n9 it's the other way around tegu21:00
jonpackeroh yeah that would be expected I guess - but on the N9 it would do it in portrait mode lol21:00
jonpackerso you're holding the phone in portrait, you need to swipe in from the right to close an app21:00
Teguokay then :P21:00
coderusN9 is a different story21:01
coderusin new update jolla broken everything i hacked for orientation fix for N921:01
coderusit need 10x more time to hack it again21:01
coderususing old lipstick home and sailfishsilica packaged do the job, but..21:02
coderusand there some other problems too. my N9 booting with only once. after shutdown/reboot it  no longer booting.21:02
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Morpog_PChopefully a solution can be found21:05
coderusMorpog_PC: i bet on 3.4 kernel :)21:08
Morpog_PCyeah you have too, I guess in next update they will update systemd which won't work with older kernels21:09
coderusMorpog_PC: not in next. Aard said about ~3 months work.21:10
Morpog_PCah ok, missed that somehow21:10
Aardcoderus: well, the work is basically done, but we want to test it a bit more, plus give you a bit more time to prepare21:12
* zbenjamin disabled lots of repositories 21:12
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coderusAard: last update already broken display orientation adaptation, and something else21:22
coderusAard: device booting only once with maybe you have any idea why?21:22
Aardcoderus: do you have some logs?21:22
coderusAard: so you can just push systemd in next update, it wont affect us :D21:22
coderusAard: no i cant. journal is volatile :(21:23
Aardcoderus: you could work on making the complete nemo hw adaptation git-packaged with webhooks, that'd allow me to build the hw-adaptation on jolla-side, and do easy test-images of non-published releases :p21:24
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coderusAard: "complete adaptation" sounds like a fairy tale for us :D21:26
Aardcoderus: I started the work back then, but then didn't have time to continue21:26
Aard(actually, I wasn't motivated to do the monkeywork of touching each package, it's pretty simple to do, same steps for each package)21:27
Aardand while doing that kick out stuff not needed anymore21:27
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coderusAard: yeah, motivation...:D21:29
Aardcoderus: your motivation would be that maintaining sailfish on n9 will become a lot easier :p21:29
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coderusAard: thats not a problem for maintaining21:34
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coderusactual problem is kernel, you know :)21:35
valdur55"same steps for each package" << interesitng... maybe explain the steps and someone can do a script for that purpose.21:35
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Aardcoderus: let me rephrase, if adaptation gets to a state like that we'll break it less when releasing as I'll be able to do images without much time spent21:36
coderusAard: also maybe you can give a tip for saving journal logs between boots?)21:36
Aardcoderus: in /etc/systemd/journald.conf set Storage=persistent21:36
coderusAard: i'll try it, but seems journalctl not working under chroot21:38
coderusis there any wayt to export log to syslog file maybe? :D21:38
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coderusAard: and well, clear now. just let know wnat and how exactly it should be done.21:39
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Turskicoderus: just take a journal file, open it with external journalctl and redirect output to a text file21:41
Turskicoderus: newer journalctl versions have --file21:42
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coderusTurski: so, what file?21:43
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Turskicoderus: umm... so do you have persistent journal?21:44
coderusand yes, i never had business with journal before. all the time i was pure debian guy.21:44
coderusTurski: not yes.21:44
coderusjust tell where it will be created21:44
Turskialso, if you set Storage=persistent, you need to create /var/log/journal21:44
coderusnot yet*21:44
coderusthank you21:45
Turskithat's the place21:45
coderuscool :)21:45
coderuswill try everything later :)21:45
coderusits sleep time now21:45
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jonpackerwhat are the best ways of maintaining application state in a QML-only app?21:51
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Nicd-hmm, so there's no way to give a struct from the C++ side to QML? (a struct that does not inherit from QObject that is)22:04
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Nicd-so do I have to create my own class to store the struct's values with a 1:1 mapping?22:04
Nicd-and give that to the QML22:04
elenrilhmm, i wonder how many of my custom hacks will the update break22:13
elenrilshould probably make a snapshot22:13
elenrildoes it update the kernel?22:13
jake9xxelenril: it gives:
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elenrilany of the devs can say what changed?22:29
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Armadilloany clue, if this will be integrated in the next sdk releases?
Armadilloworks great23:17
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