Sunday, 2014-02-02

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coderus_ping anyone with Jolla07:55
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coderuswhat is goupId for privileged?07:56
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joonahoilemme check08:13
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coderuscan anyone check new mitakuuluu build with no entry in applauncher privileges?08:35
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SvioxI'm looking at MIME registration files (e.g. /ush/share/mime/packages/ there are icon references such as "x-office-document" and "image-x-generic". Where are these icons loaded from? On Harmattan, it was possible to refer to any icon known by theme, is this still possible? Can't find any of the referred icons from theme at least...10:00
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Morpog_PCcoderus, I can remove the lines and check the build if you still need someone to test10:24
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thpcoderus: ping10:30
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thpcoderus: %attr(2755, root, privileged) could work, you'd have to try it out. if not, make it setuid root and then call setuid(2) and setgid(2) - the uid and gid you can obtain via getpwnam("nemo") and getgrnam("privileged")10:32
matokingI have a somewhat big problem with my file manager application10:32
matokingI don't have a good name for it :/10:33
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thpmatoking: fish filet -> fishfiled?10:33
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thpmatoking: and are usually also good inspiration sources10:35
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thpmatoking: "Nautilus" ;)10:36
matoking@thp Thanks :)10:36
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matokingI don't want to do any bad puns, but having the kind of SailfishOS-style "theme naming" would be great10:36
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matokingDolphin and Nautilus are both names for existing file managers now that I think of it :P10:38
thp and
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SvioxHow can I turn off text fade? I'm having a grid with 2 lines of text per item and it looks all wrong because the fade is effective even for the first line and even when the text fits the field.11:09
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trex6Hi all. Does sailfish port for Nexus7(2013) are ready?11:11
trex6But have any public progress? Something where I can start to help.11:12
achipaI'm updating my Sailfish Qt project to Qt5 (yes, I know, it's been a while) but there is some package funk going on,,,11:15
Yanieltrex6: you need to be able to run cm 10.1 or which one was it11:15
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achipafor example qt5-qtdeclarative in the SailfishOS/Target tab has both install and delete11:16
achipawhen clicking install it says already installed, soo...11:16
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* satmd today found out that his SIM did not register11:18
satmdfortunately I had a previous auto-deflect11:18
trex6Yaniel: And after that what can I do for start SailfishOS on my Nexus?11:18
Yanielthat you have to ask someone else, I only remember that much and there are no guides online yet11:19
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tbrachipa: might be better to reinstall SDK if it's quite outdated?11:25
achipatbr: I did - in fact, I did that even before I tried porting :)11:26
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achipaalso, Maadajävri? fatfungring teh reelase name? :)11:27
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thpSviox: truncationMode property on Label controls text fading11:46
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thpachipa: should be some lake in finland11:48
faenil_connection refused to MerSDK, ssh'ing into it works, any idea?11:48
faenil_haven't used the sdk in months11:48
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coderusMorpog_PC: ready?11:55
thpcoderus: did setgid privileged in the specfile work? or suid root + setuid(nemo), setgid(privileged)?11:56
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achipathp: yes, yes, I know *that* much Finnish :)11:57
achipathp: what I'm saying is there is a typo in the release name11:57
achipaas in, it should be Maadajärvi, NOT Maadajävri (which is what appears on the device)11:57
coderusthp: i have no idea. need to test it on real Jolla phone with latest update. I'll upload new build now and let anyone to test it :)11:57
coderusthp: remember, i have no Jolla :)11:58
achipaChange Ibb1fb2e5: Rename the QtQuick1 module back to QtDeclarative11:58
thpachipa: probably wrongly copied from
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thpAard: ^ s/jävri/järvi/ in release name?11:59
HarhaanJohtajawell the name probably isn't finnish11:59
achipathp Aard hopefully I don't need to file a bug report12:00
HarhaanJohtajait is sami12:00
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mikmaachipa: there is no typo in the release name. it's Maadajävri12:00
achipamikma: ooookay12:00
coderusthp: also. is losing connection to server in standby "privileged" issue too?12:00
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coderus ## Mitakuuluu test build ## 12:01
thpcoderus: no, that's probably wakelock issue12:01
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coderusplease remove mapplauncherd/privileget mitakuuluu entry if have12:01
Aardachipa: jävri is the sami word for loke. maadajävri is a lake in lapland.12:02
achipamikma: so then the *other* references are wrong, eg
coderusthp: hm. it was never happened before update. is thet feature opensource and can be checked somewhere?12:02
mikmaachipa: yeap12:03
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mikmaachipa: it's sami-language, they use it in northern parts of finland+sweden (+norway?)12:04
thpcoderus: you can call MCE keepalive in d-bus:
thpcoderus: and at some point will be available and working (it might already be, haven't checked lately)12:05
achipamikma: yes, I'm not that far geographically, just simply ignorant :)12:05
mikmaachipa: Maadâjävri = Tyvijärvi, :)12:06
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achipamikma: aaaha, well, if I saw the â in there that might have raised some suspicion :)12:07
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mikmaachipa: *brings out the sherlock holmes spyglass*12:08
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Aardmikma: iirc correctly it'd be even jāvri, but I decided to go with the spelling used in jarviwiki12:09
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mikmaaard: recognizes it as Maadâjävri, but, i dunno. i'm not sami-person :)12:10
coderusanyone to test mitakuuluu?12:10
mikmawhat's there to test then12:11
coderusmikma: you using it already?12:12
mikmacoderus: 0.1.24 but i downloaded the latest and now uploading it to phone12:12
coderusmikma: okay :)12:12
coderusyou need to remove privileges lines from mapplauncher/privileges, if added. if not you dont need to do anything, just launch12:13
coderusand need to test adding contacts12:13
coderusis it able to fetch contacts or not12:14
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coderusthp: thanks, i'll try mce12:14
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coderusthp: cant find keepalive anything in repos12:14
mikmacoderus: well, with just installing and starting 0.1.25, it can't fetch the contacts12:15
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thpcoderus: yeah, that keepalive module is quite new, might not be in repos yet. mce definitely works, though12:20
thpcoderus: for how we do it in packagekit; for your app, you probably don't have to worry too much about mce restarting / disappearing12:22
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Morpog_PCcoderus, I can confirm mikmas observation. It can't fetch the contacts.12:29
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coderusMorpog_PC: mikma: please check [ls -la /usr/bin/harbour-mitakuuluu]12:32
Morpog_PC-rwxr-sr-x 1 root privileged 594128 Feb  2 12:57 /usr/bin/harbour-mitakuul12:34
Morpog_PCerm, mitakuul?12:34
mikma-rwxr-sr-x 1 root privileged 594128 Feb  2 13:57 /usr/bin/harbour-mitakuuluu12:34
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Morpog_PCok, so the 2 missing u is a putty issue :D12:36
coderusthp: getpwnam? maybe its getpwuid and getgrgid?12:38
coderusthp: ah no, sorry, its reverse named linux things :)12:39
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coderusbuilding with setuid(getpwnam("nemo")->pw_uid); and setgid(getgrnam("privileged")->gr_gid); now12:41
coderusMorpog_PC: mikma: smae link:
coderussame link*12:42
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mikmacoderus: contacts list popped up now12:44
mikmacoderus: and i was able to sync my friend in12:44
coderusthp: ^12:45
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coderusmikma: thaks for testing :)12:45
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mikmacoderus: np :)12:45
Morpog_PCcoderus, worked fine here too, all contacts shown and synced one contact12:45
Morpog_PCI guess you are aware of that notification priority mess12:46
coderusMorpog_PC: this build contain high priority12:47
coderusyou can test it12:47
Morpog_PCah great12:47
Morpog_PCwriting myself a message :)12:47
Morpog_PCok, doesn't work with own contact, mitäkuuluu is too fast :)12:48
Morpog_PCit worked on wazapp on n912:48
coderusMorpog_PC: ping me in whatsapp, i'll send you mesage12:49
Morpog_PCdon't have you as contact12:49
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coderusthp: btw, is there any signal to check when system waiting for suspend?12:50
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coderusthp: or i should send it always anyway?12:54
coderusMorpog_PC: +7909090991212:54
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Morpog_PCcoderus, did you see the message?13:04
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coderusMorpog_PC: i hear something :D13:05
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achipaIs there a qmake scope for sailfish nowadays?13:11
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thpcoderus: send it always. by sending it, you tell mce "i want to keep the cpu alive"13:24
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achipa...also, any way of detecting silica availability on qmake level?13:36
achipaI used silicabackground in the past, but unsurprisingly that moved and is not that portable :)13:37
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achipathp: what would be the correct scope for doing CONFIG += sailfishapp ?13:39
Morpog_PCcoderus, didn't get any notification13:41
Morpog_PCnot even in mitäkuuluu cover13:41
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coderusthp: okay, added timer, starting when connected and stopping when disconnected.13:52
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coderusMorpog_PC: what you mean? did you get message?13:52
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Morpog_PCyes, I got the message13:52
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Morpog_PCbut no notification13:53
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Morpog_PCnot in events screen, not on lock screen, not even in mitäkuuluu cover13:53
Morpog_PCit was still at no unread messages13:53
Morpog_PCbut I got 2 messages in the meantime13:53
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jpnurmiachipa_: how about packagesExist(sailfishapp) { ... } ?13:54
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achipa_jpnurmi: sold! certainly better than contains(LIBS,-lsailfishsilicabackground): {...}13:56
coderusMorpog_PC: thats impossible :)13:58
Morpog_PCsend me a message and I send you a screenshot :)13:58
Morpog_PCor log?13:59
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Morpog_PClog sent14:00
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achipa_is there a way to stop a Virtualbox startup loop?14:49
achipa_gets stuck and QtCreator happily keeps realunching it after every kill...14:49
achipa_(gets stuck = never starts up, just sits there at 0%)14:50
tbrbuild engine?14:50
achipa_no, the emu14:50
achipa_build engine worked OK14:51
achipa_in fact, most of my problems were due to Qt5.0 -> Qt5.1 changes14:51
achipa_wish Qt guys wouldn't keep renaming things without deprecation for kicks14:52
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achipa_Waiting for VM "SailfishOS Emulator" to power on...14:55
achipa_and to make it worse, it's a modal one, so vbox getting stuck also gets qtcreator stuck... ugh14:56
achipa_aha! it's the audio. Don't listen to internet radio while developing...14:59
Yanielor disable audio from the VM?14:59
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achipa_That's what I did15:00
achipa_a) not exactly intuitive, b) what if you actually dev something that DOES need audio? Audio mixing is not exactly 22nd century tech :)15:00
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achipa_let's see if we can brings this into harbour quickly...15:03
achipa_You should restart QtCretor15:03
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achipa_honestly, running that spellchecker on your translation strings doesn't take that much time15:04
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SvioxIs there a way in Silica to produce synchronous dialog of any sort? For example, QNetworkAccessManager::authenticationRequired requires synchronous user prompty.15:31
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thpachipa_: probably packagesExist(sailfishapp) { ... }15:46
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achipa_thp: yep, thx15:55
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SvioxHmm, I'm unable to use QQmlNetworkAccessManagerFactory with QML. Any idea if this is Sailfish limitation?16:17
SvioxSpecification says "The factory must be set before executing the engine." - I'm using it from next line from SailfishApp::createView();16:18
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FuzzillogicHello. In QML I've used an AnimtedImage item. In the i486 VM emulator I get "QML AnimatedImage: Error Reading Animated Image" when trying to display an animated gif or mng. When deploying to a (real) Jolla, it works fine. Am I missing a package in the emulator, or something else?16:32
FuzzillogicNon-animated images do work in the emulator, using AnimatedImage.16:33
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walokrado you have added - qt5-plugin-imageformat-gif16:41
walokrato Requires:.16:41
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SvioxIs silica source codes available somewhere? I would like to know what happens inside SailfishApp::createView()16:43
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FuzzillogicThis is my first dabbling with the SDK, so no, I did not... Didn't know it was required. But it works now, thanks!16:47
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walokrahad the same problem when I started :)16:47
FuzzillogicI don't understand why it is required on the emulator, but works just fine without it on the device.Also, on Harmattan it also just worked.16:49
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Svioxjpnurmi: ty17:42
SvioxIt seems that sailfish is not providing any default D-Bus service like libmeegotouch did..17:43
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shoeb751hello there17:49
shoeb751I am really excited with what jolla has done to the meego os17:50
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Abby24 I give you some pictures. I hope you like!
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shoeb751any news when it is going to launch in india?17:51
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SvioxGreat.. Seems I was asking too much: - it's impossible to do what I was trying to do. Thank you Qt for not documenting this.17:58
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sejois there a place where I can find how I can get an app to listen for notifications?19:58
coderussejo: what?20:03
sejocoderus: trying to find the documentation about the notification system, I think it's dbus, is that correct?20:03
sejoI already asked once, and got some links but lost them :/20:04
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coderussejo: mlite5. MNotification class.20:19
sejook thanks20:19
sejocoderus: is there a api doc of the library somewhere?20:22
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coderusits same with harmattan one20:32
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sejocoderus: ok I'll check that20:33
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edipssHow to run PySide Mobility examples with Qt Simulator20:49
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coderusedipss: pyside not supported on sailfish20:50
coderusthere are pyotherside20:50
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coderuspossible you need to build and install pytotherside on emulator manually20:51
edipssI think pyqt5 will support sailfish in future20:51
edipssit is a linux distro like fedora, so it can be20:52
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achipa_Ah the joys of packaging. The joys of wanting to hurt yourself, that is: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: /usr/lib/debug/.build-id/b5/97e51be8ad1c979098f2f0c432c820e3038cb821:01
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fk_lxachipa_: hi :-)21:05
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edipssi didnt understand anything from pyotherside although I checked its examples and api21:08
achipa_fk_lx: well hello there!21:10
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fk_lxachipa_: long time, no see ;-)21:11
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achipa_fk_lx: indeed21:12
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fk_lxachipa_: still in HK?21:12
achipa_fk_lx: back in snowy Finland (oddly enough, not as snowy as Serbia these days ;)21:13
AlmAckhi, someone knows where I can find the component example, I would like to know how to create the "Formatter" page21:13
achipa_fk_lx: going to stick around till MWC21:14
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fk_lxhehe, I'm happy that here in Belgium is warmer then in Poland21:16
fk_lxon Thursday evening in Warsaw it was -17C and very windy in addition21:17
AlmAckok found under: SDK/examples/componentgallery/qml/pages/21:17
fk_lxachipa_: hmm, interesting21:18
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fk_lxachipa_: will you be at MWC?21:18
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achipa_fk_lx: yep, both as speaker and booth babe21:24
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edipssthat shows sailfish supports both pyotherside and pyqt
fk_lxachipa_: interesting, will drop in at your booth to see Norman... I mean your stuff :-P21:27
fk_lxachipa_: just a wild guess (seen some speculations about what Nokia will show), but I'll find out in just a couple of weeks :-)21:28
* achipa_ talks in robotic voice "Can. Not. Comment. On. Future. Devices. Or. Products."21:30
achipa_fk_lx: but yes, anyone here is more than welcome to look me up, it's certainly going to be fun - it always is :)21:30
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fk_lxyeah, I'm looking forward to the fun ;-)21:32
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achipa_will jolla jave a booth? last year it was very-much-under-cover...21:34
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fk_lxachipa_: yes, they will have21:38
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Abby29 I give you some pictures. I hope you like!
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edipssoh no I saw Abby29's link wrongly :((23:30
edipssnever visit Abby29's link !!23:30
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