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coderus_ | ping anyone with Jolla | 07:55 |
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coderus | what is goupId for privileged? | 07:56 |
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joonahoi | lemme check | 08:13 |
joonahoi | 998 | 08:13 |
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coderus | thanks | 08:34 |
coderus | can anyone check new mitakuuluu build with no entry in applauncher privileges? | 08:35 |
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Sviox | I'm looking at MIME registration files (e.g. /ush/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml) there are icon references such as "x-office-document" and "image-x-generic". Where are these icons loaded from? On Harmattan, it was possible to refer to any icon known by theme, is this still possible? Can't find any of the referred icons from theme at least... | 10:00 |
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Morpog_PC | coderus, I can remove the lines and check the build if you still need someone to test | 10:24 |
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thp | coderus: ping | 10:30 |
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thp | coderus: %attr(2755, root, privileged) could work, you'd have to try it out. if not, make it setuid root and then call setuid(2) and setgid(2) - the uid and gid you can obtain via getpwnam("nemo") and getgrnam("privileged") | 10:32 |
matoking | I have a somewhat big problem with my file manager application | 10:32 |
matoking | I don't have a good name for it :/ | 10:33 |
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thp | matoking: fish filet -> fishfiled? | 10:33 |
matoking | Hm | 10:34 |
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thp | matoking: http://www.macmillandictionary.com/thesaurus-category/british/Parts-of-boats-and-ships and http://phrontistery.info/nautical.html are usually also good inspiration sources | 10:35 |
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thp | matoking: "Nautilus" ;) | 10:36 |
matoking | @thp Thanks :) | 10:36 |
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matoking | I don't want to do any bad puns, but having the kind of SailfishOS-style "theme naming" would be great | 10:36 |
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matoking | Dolphin and Nautilus are both names for existing file managers now that I think of it :P | 10:38 |
thp | http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Finding_Nemo_characters and http://pixar.wikia.com/Category:Finding_Nemo_Characters | 10:38 |
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Sviox | How can I turn off text fade? I'm having a grid with 2 lines of text per item and it looks all wrong because the fade is effective even for the first line and even when the text fits the field. | 11:09 |
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trex6 | Hi all. Does sailfish port for Nexus7(2013) are ready? | 11:11 |
Yaniel | no | 11:11 |
trex6 | But have any public progress? Something where I can start to help. | 11:12 |
achipa | I'm updating my Sailfish Qt project to Qt5 (yes, I know, it's been a while) but there is some package funk going on,,, | 11:15 |
Yaniel | trex6: you need to be able to run cm 10.1 or which one was it | 11:15 |
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achipa | for example qt5-qtdeclarative in the SailfishOS/Target tab has both install and delete | 11:16 |
achipa | when clicking install it says already installed, soo... | 11:16 |
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* satmd today found out that his SIM did not register | 11:18 | |
satmd | fortunately I had a previous auto-deflect | 11:18 |
trex6 | Yaniel: And after that what can I do for start SailfishOS on my Nexus? | 11:18 |
Yaniel | that you have to ask someone else, I only remember that much and there are no guides online yet | 11:19 |
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tbr | achipa: might be better to reinstall SDK if it's quite outdated? | 11:25 |
achipa | tbr: I did - in fact, I did that even before I tried porting :) | 11:26 |
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achipa | also, Maadajävri? fatfungring teh reelase name? :) | 11:27 |
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thp | Sviox: truncationMode property on Label controls text fading | 11:46 |
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thp | achipa: should be some lake in finland | 11:48 |
faenil_ | connection refused to MerSDK, ssh'ing into it works, any idea? | 11:48 |
faenil_ | haven't used the sdk in months | 11:48 |
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coderus | Morpog_PC: ready? | 11:55 |
thp | coderus: did setgid privileged in the specfile work? or suid root + setuid(nemo), setgid(privileged)? | 11:56 |
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achipa | thp: yes, yes, I know *that* much Finnish :) | 11:57 |
achipa | thp: what I'm saying is there is a typo in the release name | 11:57 |
achipa | as in, it should be Maadajärvi, NOT Maadajävri (which is what appears on the device) | 11:57 |
coderus | thp: i have no idea. need to test it on real Jolla phone with latest update. I'll upload new build now and let anyone to test it :) | 11:57 |
coderus | thp: remember, i have no Jolla :) | 11:58 |
achipa | Change Ibb1fb2e5: Rename the QtQuick1 module back to QtDeclarative | 11:58 |
thp | achipa: probably wrongly copied from http://www.jarviwiki.fi/wiki/Maadaj%C3%A4vri | 11:59 |
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thp | Aard: ^ s/jävri/järvi/ in release name? | 11:59 |
HarhaanJohtaja | well the name probably isn't finnish | 11:59 |
achipa | thp Aard hopefully I don't need to file a bug report | 12:00 |
HarhaanJohtaja | it is sami | 12:00 |
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mikma | achipa: there is no typo in the release name. it's Maadajävri | 12:00 |
achipa | mikma: ooookay | 12:00 |
coderus | thp: also. is losing connection to server in standby "privileged" issue too? | 12:00 |
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coderus | ## Mitakuuluu test build ## | 12:01 |
thp | coderus: no, that's probably wakelock issue | 12:01 |
coderus | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/jolla/harbour-mitakuuluu-0.1-25.armv7hl.rpm | 12:01 |
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coderus | please remove mapplauncherd/privileget mitakuuluu entry if have | 12:01 |
Aard | achipa: jävri is the sami word for loke. maadajävri is a lake in lapland. | 12:02 |
achipa | mikma: so then the *other* references are wrong, eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_mobile_operating_systems | 12:02 |
coderus | thp: hm. it was never happened before update. is thet feature opensource and can be checked somewhere? | 12:02 |
mikma | achipa: yeap | 12:03 |
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mikma | achipa: it's sami-language, they use it in northern parts of finland+sweden (+norway?) | 12:04 |
thp | coderus: you can call MCE keepalive in d-bus: https://github.com/nemomobile/mce-dev/blob/master/include/mce/dbus-names.h | 12:04 |
thp | coderus: and at some point https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-keepalive will be available and working (it might already be, haven't checked lately) | 12:05 |
achipa | mikma: yes, I'm not that far geographically, just simply ignorant :) | 12:05 |
mikma | achipa: Maadâjävri = Tyvijärvi, http://goo.gl/maps/PDY1c :) | 12:06 |
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achipa | mikma: aaaha, well, if I saw the â in there that might have raised some suspicion :) | 12:07 |
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mikma | achipa: *brings out the sherlock holmes spyglass* | 12:08 |
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Aard | mikma: iirc correctly it'd be even jāvri, but I decided to go with the spelling used in jarviwiki | 12:09 |
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mikma | aard: maps.google.com recognizes it as Maadâjävri, but, i dunno. i'm not sami-person :) | 12:10 |
coderus | anyone to test mitakuuluu? | 12:10 |
mikma | what's there to test then | 12:11 |
coderus | mikma: you using it already? | 12:12 |
mikma | coderus: 0.1.24 but i downloaded the latest and now uploading it to phone | 12:12 |
coderus | mikma: okay :) | 12:12 |
coderus | you need to remove privileges lines from mapplauncher/privileges, if added. if not you dont need to do anything, just launch | 12:13 |
coderus | and need to test adding contacts | 12:13 |
coderus | is it able to fetch contacts or not | 12:14 |
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coderus | thp: thanks, i'll try mce | 12:14 |
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coderus | thp: cant find keepalive anything in repos | 12:14 |
mikma | coderus: well, with just installing and starting 0.1.25, it can't fetch the contacts | 12:15 |
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thp | coderus: yeah, that keepalive module is quite new, might not be in repos yet. mce definitely works, though | 12:20 |
thp | coderus: https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/PackageKit/blob/master/PackageKit/src/pk-engine.c#L269 for how we do it in packagekit; for your app, you probably don't have to worry too much about mce restarting / disappearing | 12:22 |
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Morpog_PC | coderus, I can confirm mikmas observation. It can't fetch the contacts. | 12:29 |
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coderus | Morpog_PC: mikma: please check [ls -la /usr/bin/harbour-mitakuuluu] | 12:32 |
Morpog_PC | -rwxr-sr-x 1 root privileged 594128 Feb 2 12:57 /usr/bin/harbour-mitakuul | 12:34 |
Morpog_PC | erm, mitakuul? | 12:34 |
mikma | -rwxr-sr-x 1 root privileged 594128 Feb 2 13:57 /usr/bin/harbour-mitakuuluu | 12:34 |
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Morpog_PC | ok, so the 2 missing u is a putty issue :D | 12:36 |
coderus | thp: getpwnam? maybe its getpwuid and getgrgid? | 12:38 |
coderus | thp: ah no, sorry, its reverse named linux things :) | 12:39 |
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coderus | building with setuid(getpwnam("nemo")->pw_uid); and setgid(getgrnam("privileged")->gr_gid); now | 12:41 |
coderus | Morpog_PC: mikma: smae link: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/jolla/harbour-mitakuuluu-0.1-25.armv7hl.rpm | 12:42 |
coderus | same link* | 12:42 |
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mikma | coderus: contacts list popped up now | 12:44 |
mikma | coderus: and i was able to sync my friend in | 12:44 |
coderus | thp: ^ | 12:45 |
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coderus | mikma: thaks for testing :) | 12:45 |
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mikma | coderus: np :) | 12:45 |
Morpog_PC | coderus, worked fine here too, all contacts shown and synced one contact | 12:45 |
Morpog_PC | I guess you are aware of that notification priority mess | 12:46 |
coderus | Morpog_PC: this build contain high priority | 12:47 |
coderus | you can test it | 12:47 |
Morpog_PC | ah great | 12:47 |
Morpog_PC | writing myself a message :) | 12:47 |
Morpog_PC | ok, doesn't work with own contact, mitäkuuluu is too fast :) | 12:48 |
Morpog_PC | it worked on wazapp on n9 | 12:48 |
coderus | Morpog_PC: ping me in whatsapp, i'll send you mesage | 12:49 |
Morpog_PC | don't have you as contact | 12:49 |
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coderus | thp: btw, is there any signal to check when system waiting for suspend? | 12:50 |
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coderus | thp: or i should send it always anyway? | 12:54 |
coderus | Morpog_PC: +79090909912 | 12:54 |
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Morpog_PC | coderus, did you see the message? | 13:04 |
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coderus | Morpog_PC: i hear something :D | 13:05 |
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achipa | Is there a qmake scope for sailfish nowadays? | 13:11 |
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thp | coderus: send it always. by sending it, you tell mce "i want to keep the cpu alive" | 13:24 |
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achipa | ...also, any way of detecting silica availability on qmake level? | 13:36 |
achipa | I used silicabackground in the past, but unsurprisingly that moved and is not that portable :) | 13:37 |
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achipa | thp: what would be the correct scope for doing CONFIG += sailfishapp ? | 13:39 |
Morpog_PC | coderus, didn't get any notification | 13:41 |
Morpog_PC | not even in mitäkuuluu cover | 13:41 |
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coderus | thp: okay, added timer, starting when connected and stopping when disconnected. | 13:52 |
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coderus | Morpog_PC: what you mean? did you get message? | 13:52 |
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Morpog_PC | yes, I got the message | 13:52 |
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Morpog_PC | but no notification | 13:53 |
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Morpog_PC | not in events screen, not on lock screen, not even in mitäkuuluu cover | 13:53 |
Morpog_PC | it was still at no unread messages | 13:53 |
Morpog_PC | but I got 2 messages in the meantime | 13:53 |
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jpnurmi | achipa_: how about packagesExist(sailfishapp) { ... } ? | 13:54 |
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achipa_ | jpnurmi: sold! certainly better than contains(LIBS,-lsailfishsilicabackground): {...} | 13:56 |
coderus | Morpog_PC: thats impossible :) | 13:58 |
Morpog_PC | send me a message and I send you a screenshot :) | 13:58 |
Morpog_PC | or log? | 13:59 |
coderus | log | 13:59 |
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Morpog_PC | log sent | 14:00 |
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achipa_ | is there a way to stop a Virtualbox startup loop? | 14:49 |
achipa_ | gets stuck and QtCreator happily keeps realunching it after every kill... | 14:49 |
tbr | :/ | 14:50 |
achipa_ | (gets stuck = never starts up, just sits there at 0%) | 14:50 |
tbr | build engine? | 14:50 |
achipa_ | no, the emu | 14:50 |
tbr | hm | 14:50 |
achipa_ | build engine worked OK | 14:51 |
achipa_ | in fact, most of my problems were due to Qt5.0 -> Qt5.1 changes | 14:51 |
achipa_ | wish Qt guys wouldn't keep renaming things without deprecation for kicks | 14:52 |
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achipa_ | Waiting for VM "SailfishOS Emulator" to power on... | 14:55 |
achipa_ | and to make it worse, it's a modal one, so vbox getting stuck also gets qtcreator stuck... ugh | 14:56 |
achipa_ | aha! it's the audio. Don't listen to internet radio while developing... | 14:59 |
Yaniel | or disable audio from the VM? | 14:59 |
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achipa_ | That's what I did | 15:00 |
achipa_ | a) not exactly intuitive, b) what if you actually dev something that DOES need audio? Audio mixing is not exactly 22nd century tech :) | 15:00 |
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achipa_ | let's see if we can brings this into harbour quickly... | 15:03 |
achipa_ | You should restart QtCretor | 15:03 |
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achipa_ | honestly, running that spellchecker on your translation strings doesn't take that much time | 15:04 |
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Sviox | Is there a way in Silica to produce synchronous dialog of any sort? For example, QNetworkAccessManager::authenticationRequired requires synchronous user prompty. | 15:31 |
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thp | achipa_: probably packagesExist(sailfishapp) { ... } | 15:46 |
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achipa_ | thp: yep, thx | 15:55 |
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Sviox | Hmm, I'm unable to use QQmlNetworkAccessManagerFactory with QML. Any idea if this is Sailfish limitation? | 16:17 |
Sviox | Specification says "The factory must be set before executing the engine." - I'm using it from next line from SailfishApp::createView(); | 16:18 |
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Fuzzillogic | Hello. In QML I've used an AnimtedImage item. In the i486 VM emulator I get "QML AnimatedImage: Error Reading Animated Image" when trying to display an animated gif or mng. When deploying to a (real) Jolla, it works fine. Am I missing a package in the emulator, or something else? | 16:32 |
Fuzzillogic | Non-animated images do work in the emulator, using AnimatedImage. | 16:33 |
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walokra | do you have added - qt5-plugin-imageformat-gif | 16:41 |
walokra | to Requires:. | 16:41 |
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Sviox | Is silica source codes available somewhere? I would like to know what happens inside SailfishApp::createView() | 16:43 |
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jpnurmi | Sviox: https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/libsailfishapp | 16:43 |
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Fuzzillogic | This is my first dabbling with the SDK, so no, I did not... Didn't know it was required. But it works now, thanks! | 16:47 |
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walokra | had the same problem when I started :) | 16:47 |
Fuzzillogic | I don't understand why it is required on the emulator, but works just fine without it on the device.Also, on Harmattan it also just worked. | 16:49 |
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Sviox | jpnurmi: ty | 17:42 |
Sviox | It seems that sailfish is not providing any default D-Bus service like libmeegotouch did.. | 17:43 |
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shoeb751 | hello there | 17:49 |
shoeb751 | I am really excited with what jolla has done to the meego os | 17:50 |
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Abby24 | I give you some pictures. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 17:50 |
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shoeb751 | any news when it is going to launch in india? | 17:51 |
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Sviox | Great.. Seems I was asking too much: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-32198 - it's impossible to do what I was trying to do. Thank you Qt for not documenting this. | 17:58 |
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sejo | is there a place where I can find how I can get an app to listen for notifications? | 19:58 |
coderus | sejo: what? | 20:03 |
sejo | coderus: trying to find the documentation about the notification system, I think it's dbus, is that correct? | 20:03 |
sejo | I already asked once, and got some links but lost them :/ | 20:04 |
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coderus | sejo: mlite5. MNotification class. | 20:19 |
sejo | mlite5 | 20:19 |
sejo | ok thanks | 20:19 |
sejo | coderus: is there a api doc of the library somewhere? | 20:22 |
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coderus | its same with harmattan one | 20:32 |
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sejo | coderus: ok I'll check that | 20:33 |
sejo | thanks | 20:33 |
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edipss | How to run PySide Mobility examples with Qt Simulator | 20:49 |
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coderus | edipss: pyside not supported on sailfish | 20:50 |
coderus | there are pyotherside | 20:50 |
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edipss | yes | 20:50 |
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coderus | possible you need to build and install pytotherside on emulator manually | 20:51 |
edipss | I think pyqt5 will support sailfish in future | 20:51 |
edipss | it is a linux distro like fedora, so it can be | 20:52 |
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achipa_ | Ah the joys of packaging. The joys of wanting to hurt yourself, that is: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: /usr/lib/debug/.build-id/b5/97e51be8ad1c979098f2f0c432c820e3038cb8 | 21:01 |
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fk_lx | achipa_: hi :-) | 21:05 |
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edipss | i didnt understand anything from pyotherside although I checked its examples and api | 21:08 |
achipa_ | fk_lx: well hello there! | 21:10 |
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fk_lx | achipa_: long time, no see ;-) | 21:11 |
edipss | *.* | 21:11 |
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achipa_ | fk_lx: indeed | 21:12 |
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fk_lx | :-) | 21:12 |
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fk_lx | achipa_: still in HK? | 21:12 |
achipa_ | fk_lx: back in snowy Finland (oddly enough, not as snowy as Serbia these days ;) | 21:13 |
AlmAck | hi, someone knows where I can find the component example, I would like to know how to create the "Formatter" page | 21:13 |
achipa_ | fk_lx: going to stick around till MWC | 21:14 |
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fk_lx | hehe, I'm happy that here in Belgium is warmer then in Poland | 21:16 |
fk_lx | on Thursday evening in Warsaw it was -17C and very windy in addition | 21:17 |
AlmAck | ok found under: SDK/examples/componentgallery/qml/pages/ | 21:17 |
fk_lx | achipa_: hmm, interesting | 21:18 |
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fk_lx | achipa_: will you be at MWC? | 21:18 |
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achipa_ | fk_lx: yep, both as speaker and booth babe | 21:24 |
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edipss | that shows sailfish supports both pyotherside and pyqt https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/Python_Development | 21:25 |
fk_lx | achipa_: interesting, will drop in at your booth to see Norman... I mean your stuff :-P | 21:27 |
fk_lx | achipa_: just a wild guess (seen some speculations about what Nokia will show), but I'll find out in just a couple of weeks :-) | 21:28 |
* achipa_ talks in robotic voice "Can. Not. Comment. On. Future. Devices. Or. Products." | 21:30 | |
achipa_ | fk_lx: but yes, anyone here is more than welcome to look me up, it's certainly going to be fun - it always is :) | 21:30 |
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fk_lx | yeah, I'm looking forward to the fun ;-) | 21:32 |
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achipa_ | will jolla jave a booth? last year it was very-much-under-cover... | 21:34 |
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fk_lx | achipa_: yes, they will have | 21:38 |
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Abby29 | I give you some pictures. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 22:04 |
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edipss | oh no I saw Abby29's link wrongly :(( | 23:30 |
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