Wednesday, 2014-02-05

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achipastupid question of the day - is debugging supposed to work out of the box? I can't seem to be able to get QtCreator to connect to the app...00:17
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Yanielachipa: not the way you thing00:31
Yanielgah, think*00:31
achipaYaniel: ...00:36
Yanieliirc logging works?00:36
achipathe problem is that the app works just fine on the emu but segfaults on-device and a "real" debugger would be helpful...00:36
Yanielbut breakpoints, stepping, etc not00:36
achipaI would be happy with a stack trace00:37
achipaI tried with gdb directly on device, but all I can see is it dies in the bowels of libQt5Qml, which doesn't tell much00:37
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edips_Im trying to manage QML objects within c++ or python. But I dont know how to control it using objectName.00:39
edips_ For example TextField components can be controlled using onAccepted with signal. and c++ can manage QML file with rootObject()00:41
edips_but I couldnt find a way to control it with QObjectName00:42
edips_Im new to QML, can you tell me some keywords to google :)00:43
Dima^I do!00:45
Dima^keyword: qml00:45
Dima^I know!00:46
edips_there r qobjectname, QAbstractItemModel, id .. which can i use for control QML objects with c++?00:46
Dima^Try to as in the daytime ;)00:47
edips_maybe some people live in USA :)00:47
edips_or china00:47
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edips_i can control this
Dima^but I'm the wrong person to help you in this case :/00:53
edips_but there are many parameters to control QML objects in my main app, so it is hard to use onAccepted: inputsChanged(a.text, b.text...z.text)00:53
edips_no problem :)00:53
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situveskuh: Morning05:50
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tbrgeeeze, when did sailfish-dev become a lowlight bar where people think it's ok to dish out insults and swear words06:19
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* Stskeeps needs more coffee to read that 06:20
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* tbr doesn't have to put up with that and *plonk* s the thread and goes back to doing other things in different communities06:36
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jake9xx__coderus: sent you email, stuff is progressing06:47
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cos-yesterday's hack
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coderusjake9xx__: what a news :D08:42
coderusdbus .service User= option working in sailfish?08:43
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TheBootroohi, what is the syntax to copy a file to the emulator ?09:21
TheBootroo(linux ubuntu with ssh)09:21
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ko__you can scp files in09:25
TheBootrooko__: yeah i know but the syntax i can't remeber09:28
Acceor, sftp://nemo@localhost:2223/ in your file browser, I think Nautilus can do it09:28
TheBootrooand sdk/emu use key files instead of passwords09:28
TheBootrooAcce: nope, because of keys09:29
Accehmm I don't remember how I did it, but I disabled the keys09:29
Acceprobably logged in once and set a password09:29
kaltsiscp -P 2223 -i ~/SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/SailfishOS_Emulator/nemo your_file nemo@
kaltsibut you can also set a password for nemo from the emulator settings and give a password if the key is scary09:31
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TheBootrooseems my Mer SDK VM doesn't use up to date files to create RPM09:39
TheBootrooit uses very old files09:39
TheBootroofrom some past release09:39
TheBootrooi have clean, rebuild and all, but still the same old files09:39
TheBootrooso new package is created from old files09:39
TheBootrooPS: i have corporate proxy here and i'm pretty sure it's why i have all these issue09:40
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walokracos-: are you writing later some details about the parts you used?09:58
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Abby28 I give you some pictures. I hope you like!
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suyLately, spam is quite annoying on freenode. :(10:06
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cos-walokra: is there something specific you'd like to know?10:17
cos-receiver is some generic one for S3 from ebay10:17
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walokracos-: not really, just thought about it make my own now as there's TOHs available. TMO had some pictures about the pins and stuff10:27
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cos-the pins & stuff are well documented in toh development kit10:29
cos-any receiver which outputs 5V should work10:29
walokraok, haven't looked at it at all yet10:30
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radiofreesigh... just when you thought connection problems were fixed!10:46
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wickwireHi guys, Qt Creator isn't displaying console.logs when using the emulator, but they work when using a jolla mobile11:01
wickwireis there some particular option that I have to enable11:01
wickwirewhen using the emulator?11:01
wickwireI do have one IDE update pending, I was trying to avoid it as it broke a previous dev environment11:02
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Nicd-wickwire: I didn't have to configure anything, they worked on the emulator out of the box11:25
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wickwirethanks, I'll have a look11:49
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kaltsiwickwire: the ide update will enable logs11:53
kaltsiwickwire: if you've installed the "1312" installer, one quick IDE update was made on top of it to ship a workaround for getting logs to qtc11:54
wickwireok, I've gone with 1312 on a fresh install and will apply the update as soon as possible11:55
wickwiremany thanks!11:55
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Nicd-hmm, jolla reports about 160 MB of available high memory12:03
Nicd-I mean total high memory12:04
Nicd-I thought high memory is userspace memory, why would it be so low?12:04
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kaltsihow much is in buffers?12:11
Nicd-about 6 MB12:11
Nicd-that's what it reports12:12
Nicd-sharedmem is 012:12
kaltsiwell I'll be. quite low also on mine12:12
Nicd-available high memory is 0.3 MB now :D12:12
kaltsidoes "top" agree with your prog's output?12:12
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kaltsiwhat's the most memory hungry process you have? 'm' arranges top output by mem usage (RES size)12:15
Nicd-can't get top to work12:20
Nicd-according to crest harbour-mitakuuluu uses 54.40 MB of RSS12:20
Nicd-sorry, I had apps only12:20
Nicd-/usr/bin/lipstick uses 126.66 MB12:21
kaltsiok.. hmm why won't top work?12:24
kaltsiah the arrange by memory is capital-m 'M'12:25
Nicd-it says lipstick too12:27
Nicd-next is vmtouch12:27
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achipaooh - a surprise: detected components:
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achipawut indeed ;)12:36
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fluxsharedmem being 0 probably refers to SysV shared memory12:45
fluxI mean, it's going to share stuff like libraries anyway12:45
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edipsnokia disconnected to share harmattan docs =)12:53
Stskeepsvmtouch is intentionally huge12:54
Stskeepsit helps something when shit hits the fan12:54
edipsthere is a way to control QT Designer widgets with object name. But how to control QML objects whitin c++?12:56
edipsis it possible to manage Qml objects in c++ with id, QObjectName or something else?12:57
fk_lxedips: it is -> read the documentation, there is a plenty of it on Qt Project website12:58
edipsfk_lx, I researched QT docs, also QML with c++ docs, but I didnt find an easy way to manage them12:59
achipaedips: ?12:59
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achipaedips: specifically,
edipsachipa, yes it is QObject *rect = object->findChild<QObject*>("rect");13:01
edipsachipa, so QObject is like Object Name? can we use objectName like QT Designer's object name?13:02
edipsI research about its examples about c++-QML, but many examples use different way to control QML objects13:03
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edips_labtob suddenly locked --13:07
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edips_for example :
edips_there r 3 TextInputs, which a,b,c13:13
edips_so can I use QObject *a = object->findChild<QObject*>("a");  ?13:14
edips_ok :)13:16
edips_thanks for links, they r really useful13:16
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TheBootroohow to deploy imageformat plugin for jpeg and gif in my package ?13:54
Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: add them as dependencies in the yaml13:56
TheBootrooSfiet_Konstantin: how ?13:56
Sfiet_KonstantinRequires: qt5-plugin-imageformat-gif (something like that)13:56
TheBootrooSfiet_Konstantin: is there a FAQ somewhere with available values ?13:58
Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: SSH into emulator13:59
Sfiet_Konstantinas root13:59
Sfiet_Konstantinand zypper se qt5 | grep imageformat13:59
Sfiet_Konstantinyou get your package list13:59
TheBootroozypper : command not found13:59
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Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: pkcon search instead of zypper se14:00
Sfiet_Konstantinor pkcon install zypper :)14:00
Sfiet_Konstantinand there is nothing for gif ?14:01
TheBootroostill have Unsupported image format error14:01
Sfiet_KonstantinYou should add in your yaml: Requires: qt5-plugin-imageformat-jpeg14:02
TheBootroobut nothing changed14:02
Sfiet_Konstantin(it is pkcon search name not pkcon search)14:02
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Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: what imge do you want to open ?14:03
TheBootrooSfiet_Konstantin: an url returned by Feedly API14:03
Sfiet_Konstantinthis should work out of the box :/14:03
Sfiet_KonstantinImage { source: thisUrl } don't work ?14:03
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TheBootrooi got Unsupported image format error14:04
Sfiet_Konstantintry with a local jpg file14:04
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TheBootrooi don't have any14:05
TheBootrooi use only png in my app14:06
TheBootroojpeg sucks14:06
TheBootroobut i can't control which type is returned on the web so i need jpg support14:06
TheBootrooSfiet_Konstantin: when using the image on my pc it works14:09
TheBootrooso something is missing on emulator14:09
Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: interesting14:09
Sfiet_Konstantinwait what14:09
Sfiet_Konstantinusing Qt on your computer ?14:09
Sfiet_Konstantincheck if the imageformat plugin is installed ?14:09
TheBootrooSfiet_Konstantin: yeah Qt on computer has LOT of plugins14:10
TheBootrooall installed14:10
Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: use emulator14:10
TheBootroobut i'm not sure if the plugin dependency has been pulled on emulator14:10
Sfiet_Konstantincheck if it is installed14:10
TheBootrooInstalled    qt5-plugin-imageformat-jpeg-5.1.0+git28-1.10.1.i48614:10
TheBootrooseems installed14:10
Sfiet_Konstantintry to install an image file locally14:11
Sfiet_Konstantinor open one from /home/nemo14:11
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TheBootrooSfiet_Konstantin: i think i found the issue14:12
TheBootroothe issue is called "fucking corporate proxy that screws up images"14:12
TheBootroojpeg plugin is working fine on emulator14:13
Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: ha ha ha14:13
TheBootroonot funny14:13
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TheBootrooyou can't even wonder how much time this proxy already made me lose14:13
juke_what's it trying to do?14:14
Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: you are french aren't you ?14:14
TheBootrooSfiet_Konstantin: yep14:15
Sfiet_Konstantindo you have a Jolla or an android phone that can do tethering14:15
TheBootrooand you too i know14:15
Sfiet_Konstantintether some 3G network (Free and Sosh etc have a good plan)14:15
Sfiet_Konstantinno more proxies14:15
TheBootrooSfiet_Konstantin: my corporate computer has no wifi14:15
Sfiet_Konstantinhum ...14:15
juke_android phones can tether over usb14:15
TheBootrooi already use my own proxy for the rest, but doesn't work on emulator, socks proxy14:15
TheBootroojuke_: why the hell would i have an android phone14:16
juke_so jolla can't tether over usb?14:16
TheBootroojuke_: not atm using the app in store14:16
EztranCommits to Nemo suggest it's coming.14:16
Nicd-juke_: it can but manual assembly required14:17
TheBootrooofficial support from jolla coming Soon(TM)14:17
juke_TheBootroo, there's your reason14:17
Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: bluetooth ?14:17
TheBootroojuke_: unsufficient reason14:17
Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: and why the hell are you developing on your corporate comp ?14:17
TheBootrooSfiet_Konstantin: already seen Desktop old computer (XP on it) with bluetooth ?14:17
Sfiet_Konstantinjuke_: there is a reason I have now a Nexus 714:17
Sfiet_Konstantinto put sailfish on it :P14:17
Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: well there are some computers with bt14:17
TheBootrooSfiet_Konstantin: ubuntu dual boot, don't worry14:18
TheBootrooi'm not fool :D14:18
TheBootroonot yet14:18
Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: on a corporate computer ?14:18
TheBootrooi'm kinda free, except from proxy point of vie14:19
TheBootroowell i guess i could bring some Wifi usb dongle and put it on the computer14:19
TheBootroono one would care14:19
TheBootroocause no one could see it D14:20
Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: that was my point14:21
TheBootrooanyway, issue considered as [FIXED]14:22
TheBootroowill check later if it works on my Jolla using 3G14:22
Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: would say: WORKSFORME14:22
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Sfiet_Konstantinhi Armadillo14:23
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Armadillois there a way to activate scrolling for dialogs?14:24
Sfiet_KonstantinArmadillo: what kind of scrolling ?14:25
Sfiet_Konstantinvertical, horizontal ?14:25
Sfiet_Konstantinswipe ?14:25
Armadilloerm vertical14:25
Sfiet_KonstantinArmadillo: Use a SilicaListView / SilicaFlickable :)14:25
Armadilloi knew that this would be the answer... :D14:26
Sfiet_KonstantinArmadillo: why ask then :D14:26
Sfiet_Konstantinor you are asking for specificities ?14:26
Armadillobecause I had problems to arrange the Elements when I used a SilicaItem wihtin a Dialog14:27
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Armadillomaybe I have to give it another try14:27
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Sfiet_KonstantinArmadillo: what issue do you faced14:28
Armadillothe elements within the SilicaListView overlapped the DialogHeader14:29
matokingWhat QML element should I use when playing videos14:29
Armadillobut I think I had the DialogHeader within the Silica because it was a Column before I changed it to the ListView14:29
matokingMediaPlayer from QtMultimedia doesn't work, VideoPlayer from Sailfish.Media is undocumented and I haven't tried GStreamerVideoOutput yet14:30
Armadillojust wanted to know if there is another way to get scrolling to work with the Dialog, but I'll invest some more time into the Dialog/Silica combination when I'm at home14:30
Armadillowas just a short try in my lunch break14:30
Sfiet_Konstantinmatoking: for harbour: MediaPlayer14:32
matoking@Sfiet_Konstantin Like I said, it doesn't work14:32
Sfiet_Konstantinmatoking: it is the only solution though14:32
matokingVideoPlayer does work14:32
matokingAlthough I'm having a hard time getting any information about the playback state and such14:33
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Sfiet_Konstantinmatoking: what do not work14:34
matokingNot a single video I've tried with MediaPlayer works14:34
Sfiet_Konstantinmatoking: which format how do you tried14:34
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat are the debug ouput and errors14:34
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm not expert in video, but some sailors around might be14:35
matoking.mp4 and .mkv too I think14:35
matokingLet me check14:35
matokingYes, .mp4 and .mkv14:36
matoking.mp4 files being what's preinstalled on the device plus recorded videos14:36
radiofreeis it possible to find out the reason why and e-mail update failed?14:36
radiofreecan't use my works mail server and the only message i get is "Sync Failed"14:36
matokingAnyway, I'll probably go with GStreamerVideoOutput + MediaPlayer since that seems to work in one application I used14:37
Acceradiofree: if you have dev mode enabled, try journalctl14:39
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Armadilloscrolling doesn't work within the dialog14:46
Sfiet_KonstantinArmadillo: anchored your view ?14:46
Armadillothe arrangement is now ok14:46
Sfiet_Konstantintesting with emu ?14:46
Armadilloanchors fill every parent one14:48
Sfiet_KonstantinArmadillo: send me a screenshot14:48
Sfiet_KonstantinArmadillo: using silicalistview or flickable ?14:48
ArmadilloDialog { DialogHeader{} SilicaListview{ VerticalScrollDecorator{} many items } } is the structure14:49
ArmadilloI'll try the flickable14:49
Armadillosame problem14:49
Armadillomaybe the scrolling doesn't work if the Silicas are located within a Dialog14:51
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AcceArmadillo: scrolling does work, did you use clip: true for your listview / flickable?15:07
Acceif clip is not set, I think it won't allow contentHeight to be larger than height15:08
Armadillohm nope didn't use this15:08
Accethis is my settings page, which is a Dialog and the scrolling is working15:10
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Acceprobably the clip and contentHeight properties are important.. you could also have contentHeight: childrenRect.height15:11
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Armadillohm I see, I#m trying this15:13
Armadillofunny, the scrollpanel appeary at the right side and it's size shows that there's more content, but the scrolling itself doesn't work15:16
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AcceArmadillo: can you pastebin your Dialog so I can take a look?15:17
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ArmadilloI'm a bit busy at the moment, sorry :)15:27
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lainwir3dQt 5.2.1 available.... 5 minutes after I finished downloading Qt 5.2.0....15:30
* lainwir3d cries15:30
xyllHello! I discovered strange bug by disabling call forwarding. Does anybody tried to change call forwarding settings already?15:31
satmdI did15:31
satmdit fails to read and write these at all for me15:32
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xyllThe problem is: i enabled successfully call forwarding in version, the updated to foreign country). Then, after i came back to Germany i tried to disable call forwarding. It fails. I got it done by sending ussd code "##002#" from the phone application.15:33
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xyllHow can i supply information about this issue to jolla core developers team??? Does anybody from these guys reading this channel? :)15:34
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fluxxyll, is the official way15:36
Stskeepsxyll: -> make a question, tags 'bug' and 'telephony'15:36
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ArmadilloAcce haha, thank you very much! I'm an idiot. I used in the flickable to an element which didn't exist :)15:42
AcceArmadillo: oh, okay, glad you got it working :)15:43
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kaltsixyll: please include the longer problem description in your bug report in together.jc .. the upgrade might be relevant, and thanks for the report :)15:48
ArmadilloAcce btw: clip: true is not needed in my app to get it working. only contentheight has to be set15:50
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AcceArmadillo: ok, good to know!16:04
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Nicd-is it possible to overlay a QML item on top of another one (text on top of a rectangle)? whatever I try I can't seem to get it to work16:18
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Nicd-also if the Rectangle ends the text should continue (overflow it)16:18
Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: explain again16:19
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat are you trying to do16:19
Sfiet_Konstantinyou can anchors.left/ a text in a rectangle16:19
Sfiet_Konstantinand use wrapMode: Text.WordWrap16:19
Nicd-Sfiet_Konstantin: well, I have a bar which consists of two rectangles (it shows how much memory is used)16:19
Nicd-I'd like to have text on top of it so that the text overlaps both the rectangles if needed16:20
Sfiet_Konstantinput your two rects in an item and ahcnors a label in the item16:21
Nicd-the rectangles are inside a row and I just change their width so that their width combined stays the same16:21
Sfiet_Konstantinor anchors the item over the two rectangles16:21
Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: ah ...16:21
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Sfiet_Konstantinwhere should the text be ?16:21
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Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: screenshot ?16:21
Nicd-I'll take one16:22
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Sfiet_Konstantinhello Morpog_Mobile16:27
Sfiet_Konstantinand Morpog_Jolla_16:27
Sfiet_Konstantinand Morpog in general16:27
Nicd-I want the text below the Mem bar to go on top of it16:28
Morpog_Jolla_hello Sfiet_Konstantin16:28
Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: what is "on top of it" ?16:28
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Nicd-Sfiet_Konstantin: overlaying the bar16:29
Nicd-so there is text on the bar16:29
Nicd-the bar is currently formed of a row with a lable ("Mem") and two rectangles16:29
Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: discard the row for label16:29
Yanielnot using the silica prograss bar? :P16:30
Morpog_Jolla_give the bar an id and anchor the text in it16:30
Sfiet_Konstantindiscard the row16:30
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_Jolla_: nope, the bar is inside a row16:30
Nicd-Yaniel: it's ugly :P16:30
Sfiet_Konstantinanchors your 3 elements16:30
Morpog_Jolla_ah ok16:30
Sfiet_Konstantinand anchors the text based on the rectangle16:30
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Nicd-Sfiet_Konstantin: but the row allows me to put the label on the left and the bar next to it16:32
AcceItem { Row { width: parent.width; height: parent.height; Rect {} Rect {} } Label {anchors.centerIn: parent} } ?16:32
AcceIf I understood correctly..16:32
Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: you can anchors the rectangle to the label too16:33
Sfiet_Konstantinso it will be next to it16:33
Accesorry, misunderstood, forget what I said orz16:33
Nicd-Sfiet_Konstantin: all my stuff is in a Column and it will break with anchors I think16:34
AcceNicd-: if it's not direct child to the Column, it's ok16:34
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Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: put the 3 anchored stuff in a big "Item"16:34
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Nicd-I now have Item { Label {} Rectangle {} Rectangle {} Label {} }, is that what you were going for Sfiet_Konstantin?16:41
Nicd-didn't get it to work16:41
Nicd-the first three items disappear completely and the last label is drawn to the top left of the screen16:42
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Nicd-well, I'll go for dinner and look at this some other time16:42
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Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: you need to set the height of your item16:44
Sfiet_Konstantinset it as childrenRect.height should be ok16:44
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BeholdMyGloryIs it possible to use the "Select from music files" dialog, used e.g. when picking a ringtone, in third party apps?17:07
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coderus BeholdMyGlory there are no filepickers provided by Sailfish17:25
coderusyou need to make your own for now17:25
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BeholdMyGloryWell that's unfortunate17:34
BeholdMyGloryNot really looking forward to reimplementing stuff like scanning for music files and being able to filter by song name/artist/album17:35
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BeholdMyGloryAny idea when Jolla might add a proper file picker to Silica, and if they're planning on providing the song picker?17:36
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coderuswhen the pigs fly :)17:54
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coderusyou can try to find that picker in qml files on device17:54
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Nicd-the best feeling ever when you debug your program for an hour and then find out you used the wrong variable name18:21
sjtoikhere are my udev rules for the phone, if you are interested:
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John24hello, does anyone know how to update the app icon on the app store?18:53
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WntJohn24: Maybe it's the one you upload on the Harbour app submission page?19:24
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John24Did that already Jolla store still shows my old icon with old screenshots. It's like the only thing they update is the .rmp rest is ignored :(19:25
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AcceJohn24: they did the updates before, I think they are having some problems currently19:30
Nicd-Sfiet_Konstantin: I got it to work, thanks for your help :)19:31
John24ohh so you think their just having some issues?19:32
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Nicd-hmm, my app was published over a week ago but the stats in harbour still all show 019:34
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walokrasame here19:49
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FuzzillogicWill there be a simulator in the SailfishOS SDK, just like there was an simulator for the N9 / Harmattan? The emulator VM is nice and fast (and it actually works, as opposed to the VM for N9 on my system), but it seems to lack the simulation of multi-touch, GPS, battery, orientation and such. Or am I missing something?19:54
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FuzzillogicAlso, the simulator for N9 was blazingly fast. The app was running in the simulator within 3 seconds after pressing the play button in Qt Creator.19:56
juke_i wish19:58
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coderususing %ghost files or %postun ?20:05
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lbtFuzzillogic: yes, simulation is planned20:49
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lbtjuke_: feedback on slow paths and patched/optimisation suggestions are welcome ... the source is out there :)20:49
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juke_i'm guessing the developers already know what is slow and probably why21:07
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juke_but what can you expect when it's in alpha, i'm just happy it's not crashing21:08
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tbrlbt: ok, thanks21:24
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Fuzzillogiclbt: Great, looking forward to it. Emulator and real device suffice for now, it's already much more convenient and faster than the tools for Android.21:51
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