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Guest31580 | how can i install linux on my mobile? | 06:17 |
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tbr | Guest31580: if it runs Android, then it already runs a Linux kernel | 07:02 |
tbr | Guest31580: and if you want to run sailfish, check if it is supported by cyanogenmod 10.1 | 07:03 |
vesurivs | or buy a jolla ;) | 07:05 |
tbr | that's the easy option | 07:06 |
Guest31580 | joll ais very expensive | 07:08 |
Guest31580 | jolla is* | 07:09 |
tbr | they recently had a 40€ discount | 07:14 |
stephg | ends today infact | 07:19 |
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Guest1373 | how can i install jolla? | 08:24 |
Guest1373 | :D | 08:24 |
Guest1373 | ooops not jolla sailfish;) | 08:25 |
Guest1373 | jolla is bit expensive | 08:25 |
Guest1373 | heeeeeeeeeoooooooooooooo | 08:26 |
tbr | 07:03:02< tbr> Guest31580: and if you want to run sailfish, check if it is supported by cyanogenmod 10.1 | 08:27 |
tbr | then there is a chance to run sailfish on it in the future | 08:27 |
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Guest1373 | thanks | 08:35 |
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Almehdin | ateofÿdhwtw udgh | 08:48 |
stephg | that's what she said! | 08:49 |
Almehdin | rte | 08:49 |
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Almehdin | rayan | 08:51 |
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Sef | Hello, last time I had a jolla problem (the landscape mode during december) here was one person that said he /she was from Keuruu | 09:07 |
Sef | still someone from near Keuruu | 09:07 |
Sef | ? | 09:07 |
Sef | This time my jolla is in a boot loop and it run out of battery, I was wondering if I could loan another battery in order to reboot it while pressing volume down | 09:08 |
Sef | now it only starts with usb cable connected and then I am only able to get in fastboot mode | 09:09 |
Sef | it refuses to recharge the battery in looping mode and also in fastboot mode | 09:09 |
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Sef | I use the phone as my work phone, so wouldn't like to be without it for many days (Jolla Care will take some time) | 09:10 |
phaeron | Sef: did you try removing the battery for 10 minutes | 09:10 |
Sef | hmm.. for 10 minutes I didn't | 09:11 |
Sef | for some seconds I have tried many times | 09:11 |
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Sef | I just took it out | 09:11 |
Sef | is there a some smaller battery that can live for 10 minutes? | 09:12 |
Sef | with out the real battery? | 09:12 |
Sef | some condensator | 09:12 |
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Sef | phaeron: What should be the difference after 10 min of waiting? | 09:17 |
phaeron | Sef: just something I remember reading on together... | 09:17 |
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stephg | Sef there's a power bug they're looking at but if you get random reboots or in a boot loop, pulling the battery out for a few minutes seems to work | 09:19 |
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artemma_phone | trying irc for sailfishos, side menus are awesone! @venemo, @jpnurmi, thanks! | 09:36 |
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Skorpy | ^ | 09:37 |
Skorpy | works great with irssiproxy too | 09:37 |
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Sef | I tried to take battery out two times for about 15 minutes. First time it helped a bit: the phone actually started without usb, but for 3 seconds. I was pressing volume down. Then it turned the screen black and nothing happened after that | 10:03 |
Sef | second time it didn't boot at all without usb cable | 10:04 |
Sef | It seems that I have to report this to care and wait for long time to get phone back | 10:04 |
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Jonni | Sef: you are you pressing volume down, as that will only boot to fastbootmode when usb is connected and recovery if not. It only boots to UI if you dont press the volume down? | 10:12 |
Jonni | if its really empty battery and device doesnt want to charge it, then you might want to try external chargers. | 10:12 |
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Sef | Jonni: You got it! I was originally stupid to let the battery drain before knowing the volume down trick | 10:24 |
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Sef | now I cannot go to recovery because there is no juice in battery | 10:25 |
Sef | Jonni: is there a neat way to recharge littlebit without the phone? | 10:26 |
Sef | I think that would solve this problem | 10:26 |
SpeedEvil | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Cell-Phone-Mobile-Battery-Charger-With-USB-Port-3-PIN-UK-/250959448700?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccessories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item3a6e594a7c | 10:28 |
SpeedEvil | These typically do actually work | 10:28 |
Jonni | Im using nokia dt-33 to charge it externally. | 10:29 |
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Jonni | but that kind of universal charger should do the trick too | 10:30 |
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slate | 6 | 10:47 |
slate | mh, sorry. | 10:47 |
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crevetor | Stskeeps: any plans on replacing the libhybris wrapper for the opengl part with freedreno at some point ? | 10:55 |
walokra | is there a way to emulate landscape mode in sdk? | 10:55 |
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Morpog | you could start the emulator in landscape mode | 11:00 |
Morpog | change it'S resolution | 11:01 |
Morpog | not sure what happens though :) | 11:01 |
satmd | since 3 hours, my jolla keeps ringing the alarm clock again and again | 11:02 |
Morpog | search on google for custom resolution | 11:02 |
satmd | does it ever stop on its own? | 11:02 |
Morpog | have you dismised the alarm? | 11:02 |
satmd | no | 11:02 |
satmd | :p | 11:02 |
Morpog | lol | 11:02 |
satmd | I'd expect it to give up eventually | 11:02 |
walokra | Morpog: thanks | 11:02 |
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ln- | satmd: i kind of like the fact that it doesn't give up... even though it is harder to sleep while it's alarming. | 11:04 |
Morpog | yeah, alarm clocks that gave up have made me miss several appointments | 11:06 |
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satmd | Well, right now, I still win over the alarming :P | 11:06 |
satmd | for 3 hours | 11:06 |
satmd | but I need coffee, I give up | 11:07 |
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Sef | anybody from Keuruu here? | 11:30 |
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Hartzi | I'm from keuruu but I dont live there anymore | 11:47 |
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Hartzi | Sef: why you're asking? | 11:49 |
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Sef | Hartzi: I have a problem with my jolla phone having empty battery and reboot loop | 12:06 |
Sef | so if I could have another battery I could reboot to recovery mode and from there fix my phone | 12:06 |
Sef | :) | 12:06 |
Sef | So I was wondering if you were in Keuruu and would have lent me your battery for 5 minutes | 12:07 |
slate | I've revived some flat battery with giving a jolt directly from a +5V charger. Some seconds are usually enough. Not the right way to do it, but has worked. | 12:09 |
slate | If you end up exploding your house, dont blame me. | 12:10 |
slate | You can also kill your battery. Or some cells. | 12:10 |
tbr | the 'right' way is to apply 4V and 100mA for a while (in case of a single cell) | 12:10 |
kor | just use another phone's battery | 12:10 |
kor | i've "jump started" (connected just like two car batteries) a n900 | 12:11 |
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tbr | or go straight for an external charger | 12:11 |
kor | just connected some random samsung battery's terminals over the bl-5j | 12:11 |
tbr | sure, there is going to be balancing current, so don't do that for too long | 12:12 |
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SpeedEvil | If you're doing that sort of thing - stripping a USB lead, and charging using TOH connector is probably more sane | 12:16 |
Sef | hmm, two batteries giving jolt to each other I haven't tried | 12:17 |
Sef | SpeedEvil: what does stripping usb lead mean? | 12:17 |
SpeedEvil | Sef: Take a normal USB lead, cut off the device end to get the red and black 5V and 0V wires. | 12:18 |
SpeedEvil | Connect these to the appropriate pins on TOH | 12:18 |
slate | SpeedEvil: how does that differ from inserting power from microusb? | 12:18 |
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SpeedEvil | I was assumign that for some reason it wasn't charging overUSB | 12:19 |
SpeedEvil | If it is - then do that | 12:19 |
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Sef | yep, its not charging with the usb cable | 12:20 |
slate | I was thinking the battery is dead flat | 12:20 |
slate | btw, old nokia batteries have the same pinout also | 12:21 |
SpeedEvil | Leave it for 5 hours or so. | 12:21 |
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Stskeeps | crevetor: long story short our ref kit comes with support/licenses/etc and other offerings from the soc vendor; so we piggyback on having that support available | 12:46 |
Stskeeps | crevetor: if people want to switch to freedreno or llvmpipe, they can, but may break other functionality | 12:46 |
Acce | anyone who could help me with importing qml c++ plugins? | 12:47 |
Acce | I tried to recreate the example from the documentation, but I cannot get the import right | 12:47 |
Acce | it says that the path of current file is in the import search path; does that mean the root qml file's path? | 12:48 |
Acce | and if my qmldir file is like: module something.out.there plugin myplugin, should I have directory structure something/out/there | 12:49 |
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Acce | in the search path | 12:50 |
Acce | the qmldir file is supposed to be where? in the root of the imports path? | 12:51 |
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Sviox | How can I get a C++ handle to the currently shown page of a QQuickView so I could connect a QML signal sent by the page? | 13:02 |
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prometoys | hi, i tried partly recovery (browser, messages, contact, phone), but it recovered my accounts, too. now i got a sync error in mail | 13:38 |
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prometoys | did anybody had this problem too? | 13:39 |
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prometoys | and can you help me to post this correctly on together.jolla.com? | 13:39 |
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prometoys | how i can debug the mail app? | 13:45 |
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stephg | you need developer mode enabled | 13:46 |
stephg | it's possible to start it via the terminal and it'll give some debugging output | 13:47 |
prometoys | ah, cool | 13:47 |
prometoys | (actually I just realized I asked here and not in #jollamobile, sorry) | 13:47 |
prometoys | stephg, how do I start it from the terminal and do I need special parameters? | 13:49 |
stephg | the UI is started just as /usr/bin/jolla-email | 13:50 |
stephg | but I think you need to look at messageserver5 too | 13:51 |
stephg | also there's a config file that has log levels in it | 13:51 |
stephg | but I don't remember where it is | 13:51 |
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stephg | https://www.mail-archive.com/devel@lists.sailfishos.org/msg02641.html | 13:53 |
prometoys | fun fact: i killed messageserver5 and started it in the terminal, then it worked again | 13:53 |
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prometoys | thanks for the link | 13:54 |
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artemma | Fatal error: Failed to cache rpm database (1). | 14:02 |
artemma | Ha? | 14:02 |
artemma | that's during RPM installation from creator | 14:02 |
artemma | some DB got corrupted? How to fix? | 14:03 |
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Stskeeps | on device? | 14:05 |
artemma | Stskeeps: yes | 14:06 |
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BearT | i have my own list model in c++ and that works fine. if i want to sort that data from qml is the recommended way to hand QSortFilterProxyModels to Qml or simply adding some Q_INVOKABLE functions to my own model? anyone knows some open src (ie. readable) code that sorts stuff from qml I could look at? | 14:09 |
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artemma | BearT: lately I used QSortFilterProxyModel, worked fine. Easy to use if your models has fields you want to sort on (mine had a single field that contained objects for technical reasons) | 14:15 |
artemma | BearT: and if your models are small, you can construct a proxy model right in QML. I used it in the past when source model data was coming from XmlHttpRequest (and hence was already in QML, I didn't want to sort it with a cpp object) | 14:16 |
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Acce | anyone know which package holds qmlplugindump? or how do I search for a file with pkcon? | 14:17 |
BearT | artemma: actually i fail to see how to sort the proxy model from qml. there's just the sortRole property that can be accessed from qml (and has some sort* in the name). but what's the index i need to give? | 14:18 |
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artemma | BearT: I was just creating a separate ListModel in QML and updating it whenever source model was changing | 14:19 |
artemma | My DB was, however, just a few dozens on lines, changing very rarely - currency conversion rates coming from european central bank | 14:20 |
artemma | so performance and memory use didn't matter at all | 14:20 |
BearT | artemma: so as you referring to memory I assume you sorted the model by hand in javascript? | 14:21 |
artemma | BearT: yes | 14:21 |
artemma | actually, thinking about it now, probably I could use a sort proxy model for it too, but those times I wan't very familiar with cpp side of the models | 14:22 |
BearT | artemma: ah, i see, thanks. this might actually be an option and since sorting is only UI related it'd be ok to have that in qml. | 14:23 |
BearT | btw. I'm coming from the opposite direction. I'd love to do as much as possible in C++, because I feel much more confident in that area. ;-) | 14:23 |
artemma | well, I the proxy model is not that complex as well, just try it :) | 14:24 |
BearT | I'm doing currently, but as I said. I fail to actually sort it from qml without adding my own Q_INVOKABLEs which I could also do in my own list model, so there would be no need to use the proxy. | 14:25 |
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BearT | I just recognized none of the property setters are virtual, so probably that's why i don't get anything in my code. so i guess I either use the qt proxy model or override it completely. | 14:31 |
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Acce | does someone know where the lockscreen qml files are located? | 15:31 |
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tbr | I suspect that is part of the homescreen | 15:38 |
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Acce | lipstick stuff? | 15:40 |
tbr | yeah | 15:40 |
Acce | aand lipstick was one of the closed parts? | 15:40 |
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tbr | there's no 'closed' if it's QML | 15:40 |
Acce | yeah, but find /usr/ -name *[Hh]ome* doesn't give anything good :/ wonder how it's named | 15:41 |
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Acce | ah | 15:43 |
Acce | nemomobile/lipstick has some stuff | 15:43 |
Acce | not a simple qml file.. too bad | 15:44 |
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Acce | ok, next try: the events feed page | 15:47 |
Acce | better luck :) | 15:48 |
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Acce | hmm actually no better luck >< was able to find the twitter & facebook stuff, but not how they're added to the events page | 16:10 |
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Venemo_j | Acce: what exactly are you looking for? | 16:13 |
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Acce | I want to add something like that text input for twitter / fb updates to my event page | 16:14 |
Acce | it probably has a lot to do with the lipstick, but not sure | 16:17 |
Acce | either there or in the lockscreen pulley | 16:18 |
Venemo_j | what is “that text input for twitter”? | 16:19 |
Acce | between the notifications and twitter & facebook feed buttons | 16:19 |
Venemo_j | you mean you want to put notifications on the event view? | 16:19 |
Acce | no, I mean I want to add another text field there | 16:20 |
Venemo_j | aah | 16:20 |
Acce | with my custom functionality | 16:20 |
Venemo_j | ok | 16:20 |
Venemo_j | dunno | 16:20 |
Acce | going through nemomobiles github now, but I'm not very used to read code like this.. | 16:21 |
Acce | time to get used to it I guess | 16:21 |
Venemo_j | not sure what it is | 16:21 |
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Venemo_j | try asking on the mailing list | 16:21 |
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javispedro | Acce: I suspect all of that is hidden inside the /usr/bin/lipstick jolla blob | 16:27 |
Acce | I'm suspecting that too, but still trying to find something | 16:27 |
javispedro | e.g. function postStatusUpdate(message) inside lipstick's qrc | 16:28 |
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Acce | hmmm | 16:29 |
javispedro | Acce: var component = Qt.createComponent(Qt.resolvedUrl("file:///usr/share/lipstick/eventfeed/" + element.account.providerName + "-update.qml")) | 16:30 |
Acce | I guess modifying and imitating the files in /usr/share/lipstick/eventfeed might do it | 16:30 |
javispedro | possibly | 16:31 |
javispedro | EventFeedAccountGrid is the one that seems to implement enumerating the "providers" | 16:31 |
javispedro | seems to be C++ though, but unsure. | 16:31 |
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Acce | where did you find that line of code? | 16:31 |
javispedro | /usr/bin/lipstick | 16:31 |
Acce | ah | 16:31 |
Acce | it's in there, in the qrc? | 16:32 |
javispedro | yep | 16:32 |
Acce | ok I didn't know the qrc stuff is stored plaintext in the binary | 16:32 |
javispedro | :) | 16:32 |
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Acce | yep, here they are! thanks! | 16:33 |
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Sef | Hello | 16:33 |
Sef | I was the one with bootloop and dead battery | 16:34 |
Sef | fixed it :) | 16:34 |
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Sef | I took battery from my Nokia 1112 (http://www.mobile2u.com.pk/Images/Classifieds/1368589287_510441721_1-Nokia-1112-full-ok-set-Mughalpra-Lahore_18619.jpg) | 16:35 |
Sef | with a knife took some plastic out of the corner of the battery -> got it to fit inside Jolla. Voltage and orientation of +,0 and - where the same | 16:37 |
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Sef | with duck tape got it to stay in and what do you know.. Jolla started running with this battery | 16:37 |
Acce | Sef: nice job | 16:37 |
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Sef | after that I was able to go into recovery mode and use the option 5 | 16:37 |
Sef | with telbnet | 16:38 |
Sef | telnet | 16:38 |
Sef | Thanks for all of you for help! | 16:38 |
kimmoli | is that BL5C battery! | 16:40 |
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javispedro | so it won't charge with fully dead battery? that's bad | 16:40 |
Stskeeps | javispedro: it should, from everything i know | 16:40 |
Stskeeps | but never tempt fate | 16:40 |
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* javispedro just had to recently "tempt fate" on an hp touchpad, and found that yes, it does 100mA charge with fully dead battery | 16:41 | |
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javispedro | (at 100mA, it will take hours just to get it to boot) | 16:41 |
fk_lx | javispedro: hi :-) | 16:41 |
javispedro | hi | 16:41 |
Sef | it didn't charge because of boot loop, after I got around that using other battery it started to charge the dead battery just ok | 16:42 |
fk_lx | I mean, hola! :-0 | 16:42 |
fk_lx | :-) | 16:42 |
javispedro | fk_lx: hehe :) | 16:43 |
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javispedro | Sef: oh, I see | 16:43 |
javispedro | ... but it should be able to charge if you boot it to recovery? | 16:44 |
Venemo_j | hey javispedro | 16:44 |
javispedro | helo | 16:44 |
Sef | javispedro: I wasn't able to get it in the recovery because the battery was so dead | 16:45 |
Sef | with usb cable connected it doesn't go into recovery | 16:46 |
Sef | it goes to fastboot mode | 16:46 |
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Sef | in there it didn't charge :( | 16:46 |
javispedro | oh :P | 16:46 |
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Sef | so it was a bit problematic situation: phone was in bootloop with dead battery. In order to fix the boot loop I had to go to recovery which wasn't possible without battery | 16:47 |
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Sef | luckily I had a battery from good old Nokia 1112 which was almost right, only had to take out one of its plastic corners to fit it in Jolla | 16:48 |
javispedro | if you had unlocked bootloader you could also have tried to boot any kernel | 16:48 |
Stskeeps | btw, did anybody actually try the unlock functionality yet? | 16:48 |
Stskeeps | :P | 16:48 |
javispedro | it worked here | 16:48 |
Stskeeps | good | 16:48 |
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Stskeeps | there was a deafening silence when we fixed the small issue, so | 16:49 |
Stskeeps | :P | 16:49 |
javispedro | I suspect all of us bastards who wanted it where already using the older bootloader ;P | 16:50 |
javispedro | *were. | 16:50 |
fk_lx | Stskeeps: silence either means everything is ok or that everything is totally wrong and everybody lost hope for improvement, so no sense in complaining | 16:50 |
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javispedro | fk_lx: hah, indeed. | 16:50 |
Yaniel | what was the key combination for that again? | 16:51 |
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javispedro | volume down | 16:51 |
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Yaniel | is it supposed to just wait at the Jolla logo screen when booting while holding volume down? :D | 16:52 |
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Stskeeps | yes | 16:54 |
Yaniel | until what? | 16:54 |
javispedro | maybe some graphics would be nice there, dunno if they'd fit in the recoveryfs space. | 16:54 |
Acce | hmm, how do I act when enter key is pressed in a textField? | 16:55 |
javispedro | Yaniel: what are you trying to do? recovery or fastboot? | 16:55 |
Yaniel | just checking out how this thing works | 16:55 |
javispedro | so I suspect recovery.. | 16:55 |
javispedro | Yaniel: if it's stuck on the Jolla logo, now just plug it in, telnet .. hmm | 16:56 |
Yaniel | I assumed I'd end up with something BIOS/UEFI-like | 16:56 |
javispedro | https://together.jolla.com/question/3612/release-notes-software-version-1025-maadajavri/ | 16:56 |
javispedro | telnet 10.42.66.66 | 16:56 |
javispedro | (speaking of the devil =) ) | 16:56 |
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Yaniel | okay other way, how do I get it out of this to boot normally? | 16:57 |
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javispedro | one way is to get into it via telnet | 16:57 |
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Morpog_PC | yaniel, I just removed the battery :D | 17:00 |
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Yaniel | no response on 10.42.66.66 | 17:01 |
Yaniel | but 192.168.2.15 responded | 17:01 |
Yaniel | ah, nice | 17:02 |
Yaniel | I can live with this :D | 17:02 |
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evk | QtFeedback not allowed in harbour? | 17:29 |
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Acce | is there a guide on how to copy dynamic qml plugins with the rpm? | 17:36 |
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coderus | what repos in emulator i can get wget and libconfig-devel? | 19:52 |
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TheBootroo | Big news ! | 19:53 |
TheBootroo | Feedly client submitted to harbour ! | 19:53 |
tbr | you can use curl instead of wget | 19:53 |
tbr | that's already on the device | 19:53 |
coderus | tbr: i dont need alternative | 19:54 |
Yaniel | what's wrong with curl | 19:55 |
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coderus | i need wget and libconfig-devel okay? | 19:57 |
Yaniel | whatever | 19:57 |
coderus | no help? okay then :D | 19:58 |
Yaniel | not in mer-tools it seems | 19:58 |
Yaniel | nor 1.0.2.5 chum | 19:58 |
coderus | what about libconfig-devel? | 19:58 |
Yaniel | noting under that name | 19:59 |
Yaniel | nothing* | 19:59 |
Yaniel | something wget shows up in a OBS search | 20:00 |
coderus | can replace wget, but not libconfig-devel :) | 20:02 |
Yaniel | build it on OBS | 20:02 |
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tbr | https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=wget&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Aapps - easy enough to rebuild that against the sailfish target | 20:02 |
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coderus | :D | 20:03 |
coderus | i like you guys :D | 20:03 |
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tbr | https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:13.1/libconfig - but will be some work to rip out the tex dependencies | 20:04 |
motiejus | hello. I`m trying to run a SilicaGridView example: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-silicagridview.html. qtcreator is unhappy about "invalid property name 'fruit' (M16)" on every 'fruit' there. what am I doing wrong? | 20:04 |
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motiejus | compiler warns: p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } [W] unknown:38 - file:///usr/share/proj2/qml/pages/FirstPage.qml:38:9: ListElement: cannot contain nested elements \n\n p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } ListItem { fruit: "jackfruit" } | 20:04 |
motiejus | I figured the best way to solve the problem is by dumping the details and kindly asking. :) I would appreciate an answer from someone with knowledge. I basically took the "hello sailors" example and replaced the code with the one from url above. | 20:05 |
Acce | motiejus: could you please put it to e.g. pastebin.com and give a link, so it would be easier to read? | 20:07 |
motiejus | @acce sure. the compile output? | 20:07 |
Acce | yes, and your code, or is it exact copy-paste from the link you gave? | 20:08 |
motiejus | it is exact copy-paste. putting the output to pastebin. | 20:08 |
vgrade | coderus: tbr https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/home:M0ses:branches:X11:QtDesktop/libconfig/libconfig.spec?expand=1 | 20:09 |
motiejus | @acce http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4237605 | 20:09 |
tbr | vgrade: same package/source it seems? | 20:09 |
vgrade | has docbuild define to remove tex? | 20:10 |
Acce | motiejus: try changing the ListItems to ListElements | 20:10 |
tbr | ah, because it lists it still as a build dependency :) | 20:11 |
tbr | aaah, it's ifdefd | 20:11 |
vgrade | yup | 20:11 |
tbr | sorry, missed that bit | 20:11 |
motiejus | @Acce works! | 20:11 |
tbr | coderus: so, just copypac that one and rebuild against sailfish | 20:12 |
Acce | motiejus: it's a mistake in the reference then, ListItem is used for delegates | 20:12 |
motiejus | @Acce where should I read more about this so I don't shoot in the dark? | 20:13 |
motiejus | QML documentation? | 20:13 |
motiejus | now it feels like shooting in the dark, not really pleasant. :) | 20:13 |
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motiejus | is there a QLM tutorial/something, which explains the main concepts and building blocks? | 20:14 |
motiejus | sailfish site has a nice reference, but it requires some background | 20:14 |
Acce | motiejus: well most of the reference is intact. If you're a beginner with qml (and the model delegate stuff) | 20:14 |
Acce | try the general qml docs | 20:14 |
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Acce | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtquick/qtquick-modelviewsdata-modelview.html | 20:15 |
Acce | this for example could be good read | 20:15 |
motiejus | @Acce thanks | 20:15 |
motiejus | I`ll try putting a native QML application first, on my desktop. then port it to Sailfish | 20:16 |
motiejus | (it's a simple app anyway) | 20:16 |
Acce | np :) on another note, if you use @ in IRC, the person doesn't get highlighted message | 20:16 |
motiejus | thanks, the link is exactly what I`m looking for. | 20:16 |
motiejus | Acce: what about colon? | 20:16 |
Acce | nick: is good | 20:16 |
motiejus | thanks for the note. :) | 20:16 |
motiejus | ok, I`m off for some nice reading. talk to you alter | 20:17 |
Acce | good luck! | 20:17 |
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ibins | is anyone trying to get LaTeX to work on SailfisOS? | 20:26 |
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* Stskeeps cries | 20:29 | |
* tbr lols | 20:29 | |
stephg | why do you cry Stskeeps | 20:30 |
tbr | because he spent lots of time ripping it out | 20:30 |
stephg | oh LateX? | 20:30 |
tbr | lots of packages depend on it for documentation | 20:30 |
stephg | aha | 20:30 |
stephg | yes | 20:30 |
tbr | which is not really what you want for an embedded distro | 20:30 |
stephg | spaghetti | 20:30 |
stephg | no | 20:30 |
ibins | no good deed stays unpunished :-) | 20:31 |
Yaniel | next: someone ports cabal to sailfish | 20:31 |
tbr | there is already emacs... | 20:31 |
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vgrade | coderus: http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/vgrade:/libconfig/latest_armv7hl/armv7hl/ | 20:36 |
tbr | pfff, you beat me to it! | 20:36 |
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Acce | I wouldn't mind latex editor on the device, running it is easy to do somewhere else anyways | 20:40 |
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coderus | vgrade: i486 pleaes | 20:43 |
coderus | please* | 20:43 |
vgrade | sec | 20:43 |
coderus | its build depend :) | 20:44 |
vgrade | coderus: http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/vgrade:/libconfig/latest_i486/i486/ | 20:48 |
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Matoking | So, how hard is it to get your app approved on Harbour? | 20:53 |
Matoking | Filetug uses some workarounds that could get it rejected | 20:54 |
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Acce | Matoking: if you don't install stuff in weird places + ship your unsupported libraries, shouldn't be too hard | 20:56 |
Matoking | I'll give it a shot when I'm done with some of the current issues then :) | 20:57 |
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Matoking | What about installing Python modules? | 20:59 |
Matoking | I guess that isn't OK by their rules | 21:00 |
coderus | vgrade: thank you | 21:00 |
coderus | just built Telegram CLI | 21:00 |
M4rtinK2 | Matoking: well, I think you would have to bundle them | 21:01 |
M4rtinK2 | provided you target Harbour | 21:01 |
Matoking | I don't have much experience about Python to be honest | 21:01 |
vgrade | coderus: no probs, OBS does the work | 21:01 |
M4rtinK2 | but mid-term you might be able to get them to Mer/Nemo to be included in base distro | 21:02 |
Matoking | Just thought of porting an application by adding a Silica based GUI on top of it | 21:02 |
M4rtinK2 | Matoking: you should be able to easily import Python modules from an arbitrary folder | 21:02 |
M4rtinK2 | just add it to Python path ad you are set | 21:02 |
M4rtinK2 | *and | 21:03 |
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ln- | Should one BackgroundItem contain only one component? | 21:35 |
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AL13N_jolla | i assume any item may contain more elements? | 21:37 |
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ln- | Dunno. I'm trying to grasp why should one use BackgroundItem rather than not using it. | 21:38 |
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Acce | ln-: backgroundItem has some nice stuff like touch effects built in | 21:48 |
AL13N_jolla | Acce: i thought backgrounditem was lightweight? | 21:51 |
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Acce | AL13N_jolla: lightweight? what do you mean | 22:03 |
Acce | well, compared to ListItem it has less built-in stuff | 22:03 |
AL13N_jolla | Acce: I'm not sure, but I thought that the website said that | 22:04 |
AL13N_jolla | the one with the reference stuff | 22:04 |
Acce | humm | 22:04 |
Acce | currently it says, among a lot of other stuff, that "The BackgroundItem type provides a Sailfish-styled background Item. It provides a default item height and press highlighting behavior. Items that respond to pressing/tapping should use BackgroundItem where possible." | 22:05 |
AL13N_jolla | I thought the listitem page said that the backgrounditem was more lightweight | 22:07 |
AL13N_jolla | well I'm nit sure | 22:07 |
Acce | well it certainly is more lightweight than a listitem | 22:08 |
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Acce | because listitem adds contextmenu and remorseitem etc | 22:08 |
AL13N_jolla | right | 22:08 |
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AL13N_jolla_ | AL13N_jolla_: Acce: do you think backgrounditem would be allowed in a listview? | 22:16 |
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AL13N_jolla | Acce: still here? | 22:25 |
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Venemo | hey AL13N_jolla :) | 22:35 |
Acce | yep | 22:37 |
Acce | AL13N_jolla: I'm here | 22:37 |
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AL13N_jolla | Venemo: hi | 22:49 |
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Venemo | AL13N_jolla: haven't had the chance to say this yet, but it was nice meeting you at fosdem :) | 22:50 |
AL13N_jolla | Acce: so, do you think backgrounditem would be allowed in a listview? | 22:50 |
AL13N_jolla | Venemo: likewise | 22:50 |
AL13N_jolla | Venemo: I'm using your IRC client right now. | 22:51 |
Venemo | AL13N_jolla: you like it? | 22:51 |
AL13N_jolla | yes | 22:51 |
Venemo | AL13N_jolla: thanks :) | 22:52 |
AL13N_jolla | needs an easy / and command completion | 22:52 |
AL13N_jolla | channel and nickname input dont need dictionary | 22:53 |
AL13N_jolla | and possibility to have smaller font maybe | 22:54 |
AL13N_jolla | great stuff though | 22:54 |
AL13N_jolla | Venemo: alot of functionality | 22:55 |
AL13N_jolla | it's fairly complete | 22:55 |
Acce | AL13N_jolla: yes, it's ok for a listview delegate | 22:57 |
AL13N_jolla | Venemo: maybe the / can be on the right of the input | 22:57 |
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Venemo | AL13N_jolla: actually it has command completion | 22:57 |
Acce | if it's not needed to have long press context menu | 22:57 |
AL13N_jolla | Acce: then there's the reason :-) | 22:58 |
AL13N_jolla | Venemo: damn! | 22:58 |
Venemo | AL13N_jolla: type /j and hit the autocomplete button | 22:59 |
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AL13N_jolla | Venemo: you think of everything | 22:59 |
Venemo | AL13N_jolla: actually, this was jpnurmi's achievement, not mine :) | 22:59 |
Venemo | would be unfair for me to take credit | 23:00 |
AL13N_jolla | one more thing: smiley button, but it should be in the regular keyb | 23:00 |
Venemo | man, don't ask for impossible things ;) | 23:01 |
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AL13N_jolla | Venemo: I'm still impressed, though | 23:01 |
Venemo | thank you AL13N_jolla :) it means a lot to me! | 23:02 |
AL13N_jolla | Venemo: the smiley button should be in maaliit itself | 23:02 |
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AL13N_jolla | Venemo: it doesn't feel like a first version | 23:03 |
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AL13N_jolla | anyway, i need some sleep, so I'll ttyl8r | 23:05 |
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