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| coderus | what the preferable way to measure current battery consumption? | 06:22 |
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| radekp | coderus: hi, i am using this https://openrepos.net/content/radekp/battery-monitor | 06:30 |
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| blackish | Greetings everyone! I'm on my way to build my first sailfish app and i have noob problem, which i didn't solve with google. QML is straightforward: ApplicationWindow -> Dialog ->SilicaFlicable -> a couple of TextField and TextArea. When TextField or TextArea get focus virtual keyboard appearing on top of all elements instead of moving them upward. | 06:54 |
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| coderus | Flickable should be anchored | 06:56 |
| Nicd- | I have that same problem btw | 06:56 |
| Nicd- | and when the keyboard comes up, I'm unable to scroll the page so that I can get the rest of the elements into view | 06:57 |
| blackish | Flicable is anchored to fill parent | 06:59 |
| Nicd- | I'll gist my code | 07:00 |
| Nicd- | https://gist.github.com/Nicd/21b9692b12a9f9692f1f | 07:01 |
| Nicd- | my flickable has anchors.fill: parent | 07:02 |
| Nicd- | when the keyboard comes up it overlaps the ComboBox at the bottom | 07:02 |
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| admiral0 | hello | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | hewwo | 07:37 |
| admiral0 | dvorak user? | 07:37 |
| admiral0 | :) | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | oh dear god no | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:37 |
| admiral0 | is there a wiki page showing status of sailfish os on the nexus 4? | 07:38 |
| admiral0 | like what works/ what needs some work | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | well, right now we're signing up early adaptors | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | adopters, i mean | 07:39 |
| admiral0 | well, sign me in please | 07:39 |
| admiral0 | i'm an ex n900 and n9 user | 07:39 |
| admiral0 | and dev | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | send sledges a message with your name and e-mail and device(s), as well as what you expect to work the moment you install it understanding it's early days | 07:39 |
| admiral0 | the important thing I expect is calls and sms | 07:40 |
| admiral0 | the rest (camera gps accelerometers) are not essential | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:40 |
| admiral0 | at least not as an early adopter | 07:40 |
| admiral0 | (but this is my main phone) | 07:40 |
| admiral0 | can i send a mail? or via IRC | 07:41 |
| admiral0 | ? | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | irc | 07:41 |
| admiral0 | is the status public? | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris - wip as always, many things are about wirign things up | 07:43 |
| admiral0 | libhybris affascinates me | 07:44 |
| admiral0 | you are using ofono for the telephony? | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | of course | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | ofono-ril specifically | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | you have to remember we got all this working enough to put out the jolla phone using same technologies, so | 07:45 |
| admiral0 | i love interacting via dbus with stuff(tm) | 07:46 |
| admiral0 | mad scripting here i come | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 07:46 |
| admiral0 | what's the problem with wifi? | 07:46 |
| admiral0 | the kernel exports a normal network interface | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | i don't recall right now but it should be easy | 07:47 |
| admiral0 | yep | 07:47 |
| admiral0 | there's also an OSS driver afaik | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | ye | 07:47 |
| admiral0 | well, telephony is down, but as always i think it's an audio routing problem.... | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | the fun part about mako is that the modem is factually external | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | connected over usb | 07:49 |
| admiral0 | nitdroid had these problems too | 07:49 |
| admiral0 | oh i get it | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | but in practice the image is already quite nice | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | because most of OS just works, it's just down to hw adaptation interface | 07:50 |
| admiral0 | can the android compat layer be hacked in? | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | as in alien dalvik, or | 07:51 |
| admiral0 | the thingie jolla uses | 07:52 |
| admiral0 | I haven't looked at an actual jolla phone yet | 07:52 |
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| Stskeeps | ah, i don't want to promise too much; also, the alien dalvik for jolla phone isn't redistributable for other devices | 07:52 |
| admiral0 | i presumed that, so that's why I used "hacked in" | 07:53 |
| Stskeeps | trust me, not easy to 'hack in' :) | 07:53 |
| admiral0 | i do trust you about that because it needs to interact with the whole system | 07:54 |
| flora- | Stskeeps | 07:54 |
| flora- | Can sailfish os open camera by libhybris? | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | flora-: yes | 07:55 |
| flora- | but in Adaptations/libhybris, camera doesn't work well | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | flora-: yes, but that's because camera stacks are different | 07:56 |
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| flora- | Stskeeps, would you tell me if camera works on android device well by libhybris? | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | flora-: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/SailfishFOSDEM2014_vfinal.pdf | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | flora-: on jolla device it works | 07:58 |
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| flora- | someone says jolla device is android hw, right? | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it's deep down based on an existing android hardware design | 08:00 |
| flora- | Stskeeps, do jolla device need to run android os or framework? | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | sailfishos -can- run without android hw adaptation; but in practice you don't do this | 08:01 |
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| flora- | Stskeeps, if sailfish is not android hw adaptation, libhybris does only transfer bionic to glibc? | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | flora-: basically | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | but view my slides, it helps explain | 08:05 |
| admiral0 | I think it actually chooses the libc via a linker hack | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | admiral0: it's worse; it's the bionic linker built for glibc | 08:05 |
| admiral0 | oh | 08:05 |
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| Stskeeps | flora-: if i may ask, what is your interest? | 08:06 |
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| admiral0 | so you have the linker choosing at runtime which set of libs? | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | admiral0: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/SailfishFOSDEM2014_vfinal.pdf | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | as well as a video.. sec | 08:06 |
| admiral0 | thanks | 08:06 |
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| flora- | I want to use libhybris to implement android camera hal | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed8duAnlwHc | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | flora-: ok | 08:08 |
| admiral0 | Stskeeps: LOL | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | admiral0: mm? | 08:09 |
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| flora- | Stskeeps, do you think my idea is feasibility? | 08:12 |
| admiral0 | it's actually crazier than i thought | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | flora-: yes, we did that for jolla device | 08:12 |
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| flora- | Stskeeps, it is wonderful | 08:15 |
| flora- | Stskeeps, I look into libhybris, as for camera, the example program is used by jolla device? | 08:18 |
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| Stskeeps | flora-: no, we use another not yet public approach | 08:23 |
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| flora- | Stskeeps, OMG, it is difficult for users to develop. | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | it is not the easiest technology in the world no | 08:28 |
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| technologov | hi ! One of the problems in Nokia N9 was codec support. How it goes for Sailfish ? | 08:28 |
| technologov | any official list ? | 08:28 |
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| flora- | Stskeeps, I worship you very much | 08:29 |
| stephg | technologov don't know of a list, what are you looking for in particular? | 08:29 |
| technologov | WebM (VP8/VP9) | 08:29 |
| technologov | and Ogg Vorbis :) | 08:30 |
| admiral0 | i think it uses gstreamer underneath | 08:30 |
| stephg | it does | 08:30 |
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| flora- | Stskeeps, could you share some info ? | 08:31 |
| flora- | I am very fun about that | 08:31 |
| rcg | morning all | 08:31 |
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| cos- | is it a known problem that phone displays "Problem with store. Other half is already in use." randomly? | 09:19 |
| cos- | probably related to https://together.jolla.com/question/8153/unable-to-download-ambience-2nd-hand/ | 09:20 |
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| coderus | Is powertop report: "The battery reports a discharge rate of 1.58 W" okay? | 09:20 |
| Nicd- | coderus: screen on/off? | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: the watt measurements there are a bit inaccurate at times | 09:21 |
| coderus | screen on | 09:22 |
| coderus | 83% and "The estimated remaining time is 4 hours, 17 minutes" | 09:22 |
| coderus | will test if it true | 09:22 |
| Nicd- | I just got 2.06 W with screen on | 09:23 |
| coderus | okay, no worries then :) | 09:24 |
| coderus | almost celan device for now | 09:24 |
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| decibyte | Does Android apps have access to the NFC chip? | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | no; also it's not useful for anything but the TOH | 10:52 |
| decibyte | Why not useful for anything but? | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | it's not a real antenna there | 10:53 |
| decibyte | Ahh... Too bad :( | 10:53 |
| decibyte | but thanks for a prompt answer :) | 10:53 |
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| leszek | hi | 11:21 |
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| coderus | Stskeeps: its impossible for bank card emulation? O( | 11:37 |
| coderus | time for "Real NFC TOH" then :D | 11:38 |
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| mornfall | Stskeeps: is it a fake antenna then? :P | 11:58 |
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| coderus | any way to hide window totally? | 12:33 |
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| leszek | coderus: not of that I know. The only thing that comes into my mind is QWindow::hide that could be used but I did not test this | 12:41 |
| raininja | is there a way to livestream from sailfish ? | 12:42 |
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| leszek | raininja: what do you mean by streaming ? Streaming the camera output to a computer or the desktop / user interface ? Or the other way around streaming content on sailfish ? | 12:45 |
| raininja | the former | 12:46 |
| raininja | I probably have to try to write the code myself, it seems | 12:46 |
| leszek | I never tried it but gstreamer streaming should be possible via the command line gstreamer tools. I don't think there is a qml or qt bridge for that yet | 12:47 |
| raininja | someone else must want this, though? even a simple ip camera would be great | 12:47 |
| raininja | well ffmpeg should do it np | 12:48 |
| leszek | yeah it should be possible already with gstreamer commandline available already | 12:48 |
| raininja | oh | 12:48 |
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| coderus | leszek: in wayland it only minimized window :( | 12:49 |
| raininja | leszek: thanks | 12:49 |
| leszek | coderus: thats a bummer. Maybe the sailfish devs need to implement it in their window manager | 12:53 |
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| leszek | raininja: maybe this instructions will work for the jolla phone aswell: https://wiki.maemo.org/Streaming_video_from_built-in_webcam It worked perfectly on the n900 | 12:55 |
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| raininja | well I have an N9 leszek | 12:56 |
| raininja | so even better :D | 12:57 |
| leszek | hmm... might work there too but I know that the camera and gstreamer stuff is a little bit tricky there | 12:57 |
| raininja | oh -_- | 12:58 |
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| bentz | Hi! | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | moo | 13:04 |
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| Khertan- | Still none update of the sdk with working debug ? | 17:59 |
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| kempe | is there anyway to browse the default images? For example when you create a new application there is an example cover-page with two images e.g image://theme/icon-cover-next can i see whats more availible? | 18:09 |
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| coderus | kempe: /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch/icons | 18:14 |
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| edips_ | thp: I try to build pyotherside for Android using python3.2, I set pathes to python.pri as: | 18:20 |
| edips_ | sd | 18:20 |
| edips_ | /home/edips/Desktop/deneme-android/pyotherside-BUILDING/working_python3.2_android_libs/libs/python32 | 18:20 |
| edips_ | /home/edips/Desktop/deneme-android/pyotherside-BUILDING/working_python3.2_android_libs/libs/python32/build_dependencies | 18:21 |
| edips_ | first includes .so files, second has build headers for android. | 18:21 |
| edips_ | but it does not install. output: "make[1]: Nothing to be done for `install'." | 18:22 |
| edips_ | there is not error too | 18:22 |
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| edips_ | I tryed both /opt/QT5_ANDROID/5.2.0/gcc_64/bin/qmake and /opt/QT5_ANDROID/5.2.0/android_armv7/bin/qmake, however it did not build | 18:25 |
| edips_ | I also set a path to Android NDK before building. (export ANDROID_NDK_ROOT="/home/edips/Public/adt-bundle-linux-x86_64-20131030/android-ndk-r9b") | 18:26 |
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| avivbyo | Any News? | 18:37 |
| Stskeeps | waiting for next update to go out :P | 18:38 |
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| raa70 | so, who's stalling it? =) | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | some good people who know how to say no.. | 18:40 |
| raa70 | damn it, it's always those | 18:41 |
| avivbyo | Stskeeps: It shoud be released soon isn't it? (a few weeks?) | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | avivbyo: yeah we said early march | 18:42 |
| Shin_NeMeSiS | any chances to get a new SDK like Blackberry (eclipse+Vmware plyer emulator)? | 18:42 |
| avivbyo | Will we get a new SDK version? | 18:42 |
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| Nicd- | Shin_NeMeSiS: they probably won't change from Qt creator since you write the apps in Qt after all | 18:42 |
| Nicd- | don't know what changing to eclipse would bring | 18:43 |
| Turski | avivbyo: no, it should be released Soon™ | 18:43 |
| Turski | soon != Soon™ | 18:44 |
| avivbyo | Turski: That "Soon" is always there :) I am really exicited though | 18:44 |
| Shin_NeMeSiS | more modular and a preview of what you are making... BB10 uses QML | 18:45 |
| Turski | i assume Ohijärvi will be released on friday | 18:45 |
| Nicd- | Shin_NeMeSiS: you can get QML previews in Qt Creator too - there's a graphical GUI builder (though not in Sailfish SDK but it's not Qt Creator's fault) | 18:45 |
| rumkin | Hi! Everyone! Does sailfish could be run on desktop pc? | 18:51 |
| Yaniel | why would you want that? | 18:51 |
| Yaniel | but sure why not | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | Yaniel: because windows 8.1 sucks? | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:52 |
| Yaniel | but that is a tablet OS | 18:52 |
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| rumkin | I'm searching for os to use like ChromeOS. There is a lot of programmers who really loves Qt, and there is new fresh OS built with it. So why not to make it widely used? | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | rumkin: have you seen hawaii desktop? | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | desktop based; built around qt5 and wayland | 18:59 |
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| rumkin | Stskeeps: no | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.maui-project.org/ | 19:00 |
| gobbe | http://www.maui-project.org/ | 19:00 |
| gobbe | too slow :/ | 19:00 |
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| edips_ | why all linux distros dont merge for being more perfect and stable.. there are maybe 200+ distros.. | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | well | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | in this particular case, afaik, hawaii actually runs on top of mer too | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | edips_: my proposition was simple; work on a common core and differentiate on ui | 19:03 |
| edips_ | so QML ui with fedora core would be fine :) | 19:04 |
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| rumkin | Stskeeps: I wish os that looks more clear and beauty, like Sailfish, and i want it to work on my desktop, netbook, phone, anywhere! | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | yeah but there's a reason why you do mobile cores.. | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | rumkin: hehe | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | rumkin: i think there's a sailfish on desktop item on together.jolla.com | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | give your ideas how it could look there | 19:05 |
| Yaniel | edips_: merging all linux distros will never work | 19:06 |
| Yaniel | it will fall apart starting with the politics | 19:06 |
| edips_ | yes, but communities can work together for debian and fedora cores.. | 19:07 |
| edips_ | 100 debian distros can merge for 3 stable distros, so it will be always best OS in the world | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | edips_: in practice; if you shed away and concentrate and focus on mobile core and cutting everything unrelated; you get a much leaner and meaner and easier QA'able core | 19:07 |
| Yaniel | weelll | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | so you don't spend 10 seconds opening a calendar app | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | without intending any offense to any ubuntu touch coders in the audience | 19:08 |
| Yaniel | I'm pretty sure the core components are worked on in separate projects anyway | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | there's a -lot- of weeds to be cut to be properly mobile | 19:08 |
| rumkin | Stskeeps: yeah it looks like a crazy dream :) But I'm tired of switching betwwen linux, iOS, MacOS, brothers ElementaryOS and Mom's windows. To be honest i'm angry like a hell. Linux is like a live organism and it should be so. It should to mutate and live. But i wish just to find one more stable mutation :) | 19:09 |
| edips_ | there is qt razor desktop project, so it can be possible to make QML components distros in future :) | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | rumkin: https://archive.fosdem.org/2012/schedule/event/391/79_beyond.pdf | 19:10 |
| rumkin | It should not use one core, but one strict way. | 19:10 |
| edips_ | hey anyone interested with python QML app? | 19:11 |
| edips_ | pyotherside | 19:12 |
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| rumkin | Stskeeps i understand difficultness of multi-everything system, but i'm sure there is a way to make not all-in-one core but create infrastructure that more clear for user and developer. And it should be created! Why not? | 19:18 |
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| Stskeeps | rumkin: i don't disagree | 19:21 |
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| rumkin | Stskeeps: Which shell does sailfish use? Is it portable? Could i run it as a standalone application? | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | rumkin: we use our own homescreen that is our wayland compositor; built on qtcompositor and a framework called lipstick | 19:25 |
| AL13N | trying to get a cachefiles module , but it appears there's no kernel source available | 19:28 |
| AL13N | could anyone build me this module for testing? | 19:28 |
| AL13N | is this where the kernel is: kernel-adaptation-sbj ? | 19:28 |
| AL13N | or is that an addon to the kernel | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that's the kernel | 19:30 |
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| rumkin | Stskeeps: Would sailfish work on the virtualbox? | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | it already does | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | our emulator comes with it | 19:33 |
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| AL13N | Stskeeps: there is no srcpackage for the kernel :-( | 19:39 |
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| rumkin | Stskeeps: Do you mean SDK Installer? | 19:40 |
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| Stskeeps | rumkin: yes | 19:43 |
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| rumkin | Stskeeps: Thanks! | 19:47 |
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| kempe | coderus, thanks but how do i browse the filesystem of the emulator? | 20:16 |
| Acce | does anyone know how I can add another merSDK machine in qt creator? | 20:19 |
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| Acce | where does it store the settings? | 20:19 |
| Acce | add in gui doesn't seem to do anything | 20:19 |
| m4g0g | hm | 20:21 |
| m4g0g | sometimes I hate sailfish and it's gui guidlines | 20:21 |
| m4g0g | guidelines* | 20:22 |
| Raim | AL13N: https://github.com/KonstaT/sailfishos_kernel_jolla_msm8930 | 20:22 |
| Acce | m4g0g: what particularly? | 20:23 |
| M4rtinK | anyone else has repo files being eaten by something ? | 20:23 |
| Raim | AL13N: I can give it a shot to build CONFIG_FSCACHE=m | 20:23 |
| m4g0g | Acce: paticulary pagestack with limited pages | 20:23 |
| M4rtinK | looks like anything under /etc/zypp/repos.d/ that does not begin with the ssu_ vanishes after a while | 20:23 |
| M4rtinK | m4g0g: I'm thinking about replacing the page stack indicator with a number | 20:24 |
| M4rtinK | for say depth > 4 or 5 | 20:24 |
| m4g0g | and how it help you? | 20:24 |
| Raim | AL13N: arg. wrong channel :-) | 20:24 |
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| M4rtinK | BTW, I made a question for making the page stack indicator more interactive: https://together.jolla.com/question/14134/suggestion-pagestackindicator-long-press-action/ | 20:25 |
| Acce | mhmm, still, if the depth is great, it's really impractical navigating to any pages in between the page at the bottom and on the top.. | 20:25 |
| M4rtinK | like for example make it pop all pages on long press | 20:26 |
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| Acce | I still feel that making the page stack too deep just results in bad UX, but maybe the indicator improvements can help it | 20:27 |
| Acce | pagestack is good for some stuff, and really bad for others | 20:27 |
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| Acce | we should not forget we have other options | 20:27 |
| m4g0g | Acce: +1 | 20:27 |
| m4g0g | it's good for some pages app | 20:28 |
| m4g0g | but when you can naviagete throw 10 pages and more?! | 20:28 |
| m4g0g | through* | 20:28 |
| Acce | yes, all too much swiping | 20:28 |
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| m4g0g | guys, is it possible to develop with qtcreator and deploy to real device? | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 20:40 |
| Acce | m4g0g: tools -> options -> devices -> add -> Mer ARM target | 20:41 |
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| m4g0g | I want to try to create nemo-transfer-plugin | 20:45 |
| Acce | Stskeeps: who to ping about MerSDK VM? | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | Acce: in which regard | 20:48 |
| Acce | I want to set it up on remote server for remote compiling | 20:49 |
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| Acce | So.. I guess someone who knows the build process and what folders etc. it needs.. or perhaps there is some resource where I can find the info? | 20:51 |
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| lbt | Acce: what kind of remote server | 20:57 |
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| lbt | the main requirement is that it shares some folders: home(for src) and headers/libs | 20:58 |
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| lbt | also I don't know if the SDK will be happy without a VM running | 20:59 |
| Acce | lbt: just a regular debian running server, on which I'll run the VM | 21:00 |
| Acce | so the folder sharing might be a problem.. | 21:01 |
| Acce | unless I sshfs those folders to the local machine | 21:01 |
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| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox | 21:01 |
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| lbt | and https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/SDK_on_VirtualBox/Design | 21:02 |
| Acce | so how does the qtcreator know the VM is running? does it ping it over ssh or something? | 21:02 |
| lbt | but that is quite old now | 21:02 |
| lbt | yeah - something like that | 21:03 |
| Turski | Acce: it uses ssh i think | 21:03 |
| lbt | the src is coming ... soon :D | 21:03 |
| Turski | Acce: and also the sdk vm uses shared folders for /home at least | 21:03 |
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| lbt | home and targets | 21:04 |
| lbt | Acce: what you want to do is non-trivial but it is within the original design goals | 21:04 |
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| lbt | you should be able to use nfs or something | 21:05 |
| Turski | just ssh in and look what it does :) | 21:05 |
| lbt | however the QtC code got a bit hardcoded | 21:05 |
| Acce | lbt: ok, thanks for the load of info! and Turski too | 21:05 |
| Turski | with some tweaking it's probably possible to take whole build system out of the vm and in to a chroot or something | 21:05 |
| lbt | Turski: I wrote most of it back then - so I'm pretty sure :) | 21:05 |
| Acce | so, since it's hardcoded I need to make it look like the VM is running on the local machine? | 21:05 |
| lbt | Turski: actually it's the other way around | 21:06 |
| Turski | lbt: well, my comment was meant for Acce | 21:06 |
| lbt | :P | 21:06 |
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| Acce | Turski: There was some stuff about running the SDK in chroot in mer wiki.. but currently setting up the VM sounds simpler | 21:06 |
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| lbt | we started with the mer Platform SDK and put it in the VM | 21:26 |
| lbt | I personally would love to use that chroot with QtC | 21:26 |
| Turski | ah, i'm not familiar with mer sdk | 21:26 |
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| lbt | well - the VM runs the platform SDK and some minimal mer-core systemd stuff | 21:26 |
| lbt | Acce: what's the idea? quicker compile? | 21:26 |
| Turski | Acce: of course it simpler | 21:26 |
| lbt | well - I wouldn't be so sure :) | 21:26 |
| lbt | if you have a linux box then the chroot is pretty easy | 21:26 |
| Turski | well, install the sailfish sdk and that's it? | 21:26 |
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| lbt | you lose the integration with QtC though | 21:26 |
| lbt | the SDK is supposed to be dead simple - but it's not terribly flexible | 21:26 |
| lbt | it works on more OSes - especially windows/mac | 21:26 |
| Turski | lbt: i was trying to find a simple way to build projects without ctcreator but lost interest before finding the way... | 21:26 |
| Turski | since i don't really like qtcreator | 21:26 |
| lbt | fair enough | 21:26 |
| lbt | in that case you can just use the mb2 command | 21:26 |
| lbt | it's what QtC runs via ssh | 21:26 |
| Turski | instead i just created a hackish script that rsyncs my project to device and starts it since i'm just just qml/python stuff at the moment | 21:26 |
| lbt | "mb2 deploy" | 21:26 |
| Turski | dirty script since it rsyncs as root directly to device /usr/ :P | 21:26 |
| lbt | https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sdk-setup/blob/master/sdk-setup/src/mb2#L423 | 21:26 |
| Turski | and then starts with sailfish-qml | 21:26 |
| lbt | ouch | 21:26 |
| lbt | so we use /opt/sdk/<root> | 21:26 |
| lbt | and some simple tricks to determine where <root> is | 21:26 |
| lbt | that lets rsync work nicely | 21:26 |
| Turski | lbt: would be nice if sailfish-qml would accept a path for the qml-project to be launched | 21:26 |
| Turski | (qmlscene is a bit bugged with sailfish...) | 21:26 |
| lbt | "mb2 run" was on my todo list before I moved on to other things :) | 21:26 |
| lbt | now I'm happy with the SDK for my hacking and I use it in preference to emacs so I can feel like a 'standard' developer | 21:26 |
| lbt | but I think what you want is valid | 21:26 |
| Turski | also my script causes instant re-rsync of the project and re-launch when the application exits with exit code 0 | 21:26 |
| lbt | feel free to build on mb2 and submit patches | 21:26 |
| lbt | interersting | 21:26 |
| Turski | so just save the project in vim and swipe to close the app -> re-rsync and relaunch :) | 21:26 |
| lbt | nice idea | 21:26 |
| Turski | takes just two seconds to get a new version running over wlan | 21:26 |
| lbt | yeah - the rsync stuff wasn't popular at first. I think people like it more now | 21:26 |
| lbt | Turski: I do encourage you to add it to the mb2 I just showed you - it's a fairly big script but quite tidy | 21:26 |
| Turski | yeah, need to try that | 21:26 |
| lbt | the relaunch on close would need to be an option and you'd have to think how it would stop | 21:26 |
| lbt | mb2 --help is quite good | 21:26 |
| Turski | using ctrl-c on pc stops the app :) | 21:26 |
| lbt | :) | 21:26 |
| lbt | anyhow... on with the 3D dice | 21:26 |
| Turski | but yeah, my script is really hackish | 21:26 |
| Turski | and does absolutely no cleanup of the stuff it spills over /usr/ :P | 21:27 |
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| coderus | kempe as usual. ssh to it and do what you want. | 22:33 |
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| coderus | Any luck on launching BBM Messenger on Jolla? | 22:39 |
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