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| coderus | zchydem_: who seen this man onlile? | 07:46 |
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| HoloIRCUser | Hey developers, I'm a mako user | 07:56 |
| HoloIRCUser | You guys are doing a really good job :) | 07:56 |
| coderus | mako? | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | nexus 4 | 07:56 |
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| CallMeAldy | Hey developers | 07:59 |
| CallMeAldy | How do i become a tester for mako? | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | you send a message to sledges with your name/e-mail/devices you have and why you'd like to | 07:59 |
| coderus | ah :D | 08:01 |
| CallMeAldy | Done :) | 08:02 |
| CallMeAldy | Thanks stskeeps for the info | 08:03 |
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| zchydem_ | coderus: I'm here:) | 08:10 |
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| artemma | How do I kill browser default input controls styling (textarea, button) in Sailfish Browser? CSS -webkit-appearance: none; obviously doesn't work, but -moz-appearence: none; doesn't work either | 08:28 |
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| artemma | and firebug lite doesn't show any browser specific properties that e.g. add jolla specific input control graphics (gradient border) | 08:48 |
| artemma | or is it some sort of -jolla-appearence? :) | 08:54 |
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| VDVsx | artemma, maybe veskuh knows about that :) | 09:01 |
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| artemma | VDVsx: For now I gave up. Styling on all the other browsers I have access to seems to be fine In general it would be interesting to understand Jolla browser styling too indeed | 09:02 |
| artemma | BTW, Firebug Lite works with Jolla browser, but almost kills pinch-zooming for some reason (sometimes it works, but rarely) | 09:02 |
| artemma | not sure if anybody else in this channel is interested though :) | 09:03 |
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| veskuh | VDVsx, artemma I don't think we have any real styling on input controls, so far we are just using defaults and maybe a bit bigger font size. | 09:10 |
| artemma | veskuh: hmm, I see gradiented text-area top borders | 09:11 |
| artemma | also buttons get gradient styling by default (I didn't try to kill default button styling though) | 09:11 |
| Nicd- | hey, I have a SilicaListView with a pulldown menu, but the elements start right at the top and are overlapped partly by the menu. how can I make them start lower? | 09:12 |
| Andy80 | 'morning! | 09:12 |
| Andy80 | this morning I tried to avoid using Mitakuuluu, but in any case, after 5 minutes from disconnecting the charger, my battery was already at 96% :( | 09:13 |
| Andy80 | I'm now at 88% after 1 hour more or less.... | 09:13 |
| Andy80 | how can I understand why it's draining so fast? | 09:13 |
| Acce | Andy80: you can install "powertop", but I don't remember which repository you need to enable to get it.. | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | Andy80: what accounts do you have? | 09:16 |
| Nicd- | Acce: mer-tools | 09:16 |
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| Andy80 | Stskeeps, 1 Twitter, 1 Facebook, 2 Google, 1 Jolla | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | Andy80: okay, try to disable facebook | 09:19 |
| artemma | veskuh: try opening http://jsfiddle.net/3M64S/2/ in Jolla browser for unkillable controls styling, That is unless I am missing something. Also note not working pinch-zoom there | 09:19 |
| Andy80 | Stskeeps, I can disable even Twitter... for how much I use the "integration" :/ | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | Andy80: facebook i'm particularly interested in | 09:21 |
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| Andy80 | ok I disable only that one | 09:22 |
| Andy80 | p.s: to be honest I use a lot the details integration of it... and the chat quite often | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | we changed something there so | 09:22 |
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| Andy80 | I just see if the battery keeps draining a lot of there is any test I can do in the mean time? | 09:24 |
| veskuh | artemma, yeah, and overriding with some value did not help? Just thinking if that is really mozilla's default.. | 09:24 |
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| artemma | veskuh: I am not exactly a CSS pro, so there is a possibility I messed up with something. E.g. www.google.com is able to style Search button as it likes.. though maybe it's not a <button> | 09:25 |
| chriadam | Andy80: running just normal "top" on terminal should help. if you see msyncd a lot, that's a bit of a smoking gun | 09:25 |
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| artemma | veskuh: however, killing styling for e.g. android and iPhone via -webkit-appearence works just fine, -moz prefixes are supposed to do same in mozilla world | 09:26 |
| veskuh | artemma, yep, I'll look into this. | 09:27 |
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| artemma | veskuh: thx! | 09:27 |
| Andy80 | just spotted a non sense voicecall-ui taking 10% | 09:28 |
| Andy80 | and I haven't done a call since two days and it's closed | 09:29 |
| Andy80 | uhm... | 09:29 |
| Andy80 | msyncd is appearing sometimes.. and topping 15-20% of CPU | 09:30 |
| cos- | can anyone here confirm that it's impossible to inject/record call audio on sailfish? we'd buy a bunch of jollas if it was possible but looks like we need to hunt N9's for the task. | 09:31 |
| chriadam | Andy80: by "sometimes" how often do you mean? | 09:32 |
| chriadam | I would expect to see it once every 15 minutes if you don't otherwise touch the device, or once every time you open the calendar or email application. | 09:33 |
| cos- | yesterday i played around with sailfish's pulseaudio. playing to any of the sinks active during call does nothing but i didn't figure out if it's a sw or hw limitation. | 09:34 |
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| artemma | veskuh: BTW, Firebug Lite works in Jolla browser (though kills pinch-zooming most of the time). Might help debugging | 09:34 |
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| Andy80 | chriadam, I just watched my phone for a couple of minutes.... and I saw it a couple of times. Ireally can't stare at my phone all day :) | 09:35 |
| Andy80 | isn't there any tool that logs the battery usage? | 09:35 |
| chriadam | Andy80: interesting... that's still far more than I would expect, if you weren't otherwise using the phone. thanks. | 09:36 |
| chriadam | not sure about the battery usage logging tbh. some form of powertop automation would be very useful. | 09:36 |
| Andy80 | I would have never expected to see again voicecall-ui, since that app is always closed | 09:38 |
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| Stskeeps | Andy80: it is in the background at all times | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | to listen for phone calls | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | you don't want to wait for app startup for that | 09:39 |
| Andy80 | ah ok | 09:39 |
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| Andy80 | I did think there was just a service running | 09:39 |
| Andy80 | but I understand that it must be started fast | 09:40 |
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| netzvieh | is there something like cron on the jolla? | 09:40 |
| netzvieh | (on sailfish in general) | 09:41 |
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| veskuh | artemma, just overriding background-image will get rid of the bg gradient | 09:54 |
| veskuh | artemma, so -moz-appearance: none will not wipe defaults, but you can just override defaults anyway | 09:55 |
| veskuh | There is some issues though in upstream. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/-moz-appearance | 09:56 |
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| m4g0g | new browser update break addons support ^-( | 09:57 |
| Sidde | m4g0g: yes. and i havn't seen any respons from jolla about it | 09:58 |
| m4g0g | worse update | 09:59 |
| veskuh | We have not officially supported add-ons, they might have worked or not. | 09:59 |
| m4g0g | autoconnection to internet periodically, battery drain | 09:59 |
| m4g0g | veskuh: but they worked before this update | 09:59 |
| Sequenced | at least with adblock, it will work until you close the browser. | 10:00 |
| m4g0g | I can't even install it because all mozilla windows haven't reaction on my actions | 10:01 |
| Sidde | veskuh: is there any progress on supporting add-ons at all? | 10:01 |
| Sequenced | i had it installed previously, so that's probably why it works | 10:01 |
| veskuh | Sidde, No, we are still working on basic issues like having real tabs and better text input. | 10:02 |
| veskuh | Sidde, so maybe after that we will have time | 10:02 |
| Sidde | veskuh: ok | 10:02 |
| Sidde | veskuh: it was really practicall to have adblock for example. Too bad it's now broken | 10:03 |
| veskuh | Of course if anybody from community wants to do something it is possible. browser is open source. | 10:03 |
| veskuh | Sidde, yes, I know. Couole of my collegues used it as well, but we simply do not have many people working on these things. | 10:04 |
| Sidde | veskuh: :( | 10:04 |
| m4g0g | is it possible to select text in browser? | 10:04 |
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| veskuh | m4g0g, no | 10:04 |
| m4g0g | :-( | 10:05 |
| m4g0g | is there any information about api stabiliztion in jolla (notification, transfer-engine, accounts)? | 10:05 |
| Sidde | in some cases it might just be easier to use the android firefox browser. But then all DNS lookups are sent through google | 10:05 |
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| m4g0g | it will be fine if you improve text zooming as in opera mini. It zooms text to width of screen with text wrapping | 10:15 |
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| artemma | veskuh: thx! Will try background-image | 11:04 |
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| tabasko | is it possible to use unicode symbols in qml? | 11:12 |
| tabasko | like Label{ text: "Hello U+2139" } | 11:13 |
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| smokerbo1 | sup | 11:16 |
| ProNoob | 'zzup mah niggahs! | 11:17 |
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| Jonni | tabasko: \u2139 | 11:19 |
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| smokerbo1 | btw some ones running sailfish on sony xperia s? | 11:21 |
| cos- | tabasko: i don't know about that notation, but i use just normal copy-pasted symbols | 11:24 |
| artemma | veskuh: bacground-image helped indeed. Apparently my css resets were not complete. Thanks a lot! | 11:25 |
| cos- | they work even in c++ code, but i'm not sure if it is generally a good idea to use them | 11:25 |
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| Nicd- | I have a list with ListItem { Column { Label {} Label {} } } | 11:38 |
| Nicd- | the items are all bunched up together, I'd like to add padding to them | 11:38 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: listView.spacing: Theme.paddingLarge | 11:42 |
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| Nicd- | coderus: that gives me spacing but then I have non-clickable space between them | 11:46 |
| Nicd- | I'd like the items to fill the space between and center the content of the Column vertically | 11:46 |
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| Nicd- | I can also give height to the listitem itself by setting contentHeight but then all them items are at the top of the item (would look nicer if they were centered vertically) | 11:48 |
| Andy80 | a quick battery update, I'm at 63% already | 11:55 |
| zutto | how long ago were you at 100%? | 11:57 |
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| Nicd- | yay, I did it! | 12:00 |
| Nicd- | by setting anchors.verticalCenter: parent.verticalCenter for the column | 12:01 |
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| Nicd- | and then setting contentHeight: Theme.itemSizeLarge for the listitem | 12:01 |
| Andy80 | zutto, I unplugged at 8:00 (now it's 12:01 here) | 12:01 |
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| zutto | ow | 12:01 |
| zutto | how stressed is the phone, or just idle/normal use(checking time, background service updates, short calls) | 12:02 |
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| Andy80 | zutto, basically never used.... just connected to 3g/wifi with a couple of Android apps running (but they never go over 2% CPU) | 12:12 |
| zutto | so pretty much idle state | 12:13 |
| zutto | thats quite fast depletion ;l | 12:13 |
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| phaeron | Andy80: the android apps were running ? | 12:14 |
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| Andy80 | phaeron, yes, as I said... I've two Android apps running (WhatsApp and Telegram) | 12:16 |
| phaeron | I have found that some android apps are quite power hungry | 12:16 |
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| flux | even 2% is a lot more than 0% | 12:24 |
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| Andy80 | I talk about "peaks"... if we consider all the system services there are more greedy apps | 12:25 |
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| ChimChim | hey guys :) | 12:32 |
| kempe | I'm building an app and I want to sync the database with owncloud so it can be synced with other devices but i don't realy know where to start. does anyone have any good resorces they can recommend to read? | 12:32 |
| smokerbo1 | sup | 12:36 |
| leszek | kempe: first of all csync I guess which ownclouds own client uses for syncing | 12:37 |
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| kempe | leszek, thanks will look in to that.. | 12:43 |
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| ChimChim | you guys still working hard on the n4 port?:) | 12:54 |
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| Nicd- | ChimChim: they are | 12:56 |
| ChimChim | awesome, whats the status on it tho? | 12:56 |
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| Nicd- | ChimChim: there was a wiki page on that but I can't find it now | 13:03 |
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| ChimChim | Hmm, I´ll have a look then | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | ChimChim: we're just preparing to put it out atm, getting last touches on, but not this week | 13:04 |
| ChimChim | Ah alright, good to know then ;) | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 13:04 |
| ChimChim | Thanks! | 13:05 |
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| Nightmare__ | is there something like #define in QML files? | 14:05 |
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| Andy80 | another bug with 1.0.4: I tried to unlock with a tap, it seems unresponsive, the led starts blinking in green, the UI seem to have restarted and all the apps that were running are now terminated (no, it didn't reboot because the uptime is not recent). :( | 14:13 |
| tabasko | Andy80: I had that bug before 1.0.4 :P | 14:15 |
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| chriadam | Nightmare__: see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zlvbHow9Gw | 14:16 |
| chriadam | alan talks about file selectors | 14:16 |
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| chriadam | but not in Qt 5.1 unfortunately | 14:17 |
| Nightmare__ | thx, i'll have a look | 14:17 |
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| coderus | Morpog_Mobile_: ping | 15:05 |
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| coderus | Sailfish have qml audio recorder wrapper? | 15:17 |
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| Tumeezi | coderus Can I backup MitäKuuluu chat messages? | 16:42 |
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| coderus | for what purpose? | 17:03 |
| coderus | Morpog_Mobile_: ping | 17:03 |
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| Tumeezi | coderus if i reset my jolla | 17:05 |
| Tumeezi | i can restore my mitäkuuluu chat logs | 17:05 |
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| Tumeezi | ? | 17:13 |
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| coderus | Tumeezi: aha | 17:30 |
| coderus | just save /home/nemo/.whatsapp/whatsapp.db | 17:30 |
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| Tumeezi | coderus okay :) | 17:57 |
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| coderus | oops. no AAC encoder in sailfish QAudioEncoder? really? | 18:46 |
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| coderus | QAudioRecorder* | 18:46 |
| AL13N | AAC encoder isn't free iinm | 18:46 |
| AL13N | maybe that's why | 18:46 |
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| coderus | how to live then? :( | 18:49 |
| Yaniel | vorbis? | 18:49 |
| coderus | what is default encoder in jolla? vorbis? | 18:49 |
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| Yaniel | I'd imagine vorbis | 18:52 |
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| PojntFX | Hi guys Di. | 20:04 |
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| PojntFX | Hi guys can we have a Release Date for the First Testers of sailfish on Nexus 4? thanks! | 20:05 |
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| stephg | no! | 20:06 |
| stephg | soon! | 20:06 |
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| PojntFX | Yay Love *Soon* that much waiting for it;) Best os since android | 20:13 |
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| Acce | best soon(tm) since duke nukem forever | 20:16 |
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| avivbyo | Any news my friends? | 20:46 |
| m4g0g | I am want to know - who create default facebook transfer-engine plugin | 20:48 |
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| stephg | (I'm probably wrong) | 20:49 |
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| crazy_imp | heyho | 21:04 |
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| perfoliate | I'm really interested in being an early adopter tester for mako. sullivan77atgmail | 22:30 |
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| Nightmare__ | is it possible to reload a whole qml page? i'm too lazy to update all contents manuel | 22:53 |
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