Saturday, 2014-03-22

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rafhow can I become an early adopter for Sailfish os on nexus 4?00:04
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lbtArkkisN: soon - /msg sledges for more info (when he's awake!)00:16
ArkkisNlbt, where does he live?00:17
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keithzgI suppose I should do that too then, my Nexus 5 is being shipped as we speak, so I'm quite prepared to sacrifice my Nexus 4 on the altar of SailfishOS testing ;)00:41
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Normal~Hi.07:36
squiddhi07:36
NormalDo you mind if I ask some questions, of questionable quality?07:38
squiddif you are prepared to not get an answer straight away07:38
squiddits still earlyish for saturday07:38
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NormalWell I have to head off in a little over an hours time.  But I'm always grateful for answers.07:39
tbrhttp://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html07:40
NormalI have my phone set developer mode, and I've played with Qt creator and my phone before but this morning.  When I try to debug a fresh brand new project, Qt Creator want to launch a virtual machine on my PC.  This is even though the device test works fine.  I'm sure I'm missing something simple but I don't know what...07:42
tbrtarget set properly in the lower left?07:43
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NormalI don't see anything with target on it.07:46
tbrsailfish icon in the lower left, click unfold07:47
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tbrmake sure the right items are selected07:48
NormalThe Sailfish icon which has Debug underneath and an arrow pointing to the right.  I click on that the relivant line says 'Kit: MerSDK-SailfishOS-armv4hl'07:51
tbrarmv4 sounds very wrong07:51
NormalSorry, that was a typo, should be '7'.07:52
NormalThe two lowest left Icons are greyed out.07:54
tbrthere are more settings than just the kit, the rightmost should say if it goes to remote device07:55
NormalUnder Run, yes it does.07:56
tbrthen someone else needs to comment. I'm not that familiar with QtC07:57
Normal<Project Name> (On Remote Device)07:57
NormalThanks anyway.07:58
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tortoisedochrmm08:07
tortoisedocim still looking for the code that handles the clock screen icon for ongoing calls :|08:07
coderusNormal: you need running Mer virtual machine to build :)08:07
tortoisedocseems like its not in qml?08:07
coderustortoisedoc: what is "clock screen icon"?08:08
tortoisedoccoderus: the first screen with the clock which appears after you unlock the device08:09
tortoisedocit is not in lipstick08:10
tortoisedocso it has to be in qml08:10
tortoisedocbut in qml i cant find anything08:10
tortoisedoc:|08:10
tortoisedocgrumble08:10
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coderusits in lipstick :)08:11
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Normalcoderus: Right, looks like my VirtualBox driver modules need to be reinstalled.08:13
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Normalcoderus: tbr: It looks like my Virtualbox install is broke and require more time to fix than I have available right now.  So thanks and hopefully I'll be back here with more questions...  Until next time!08:22
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squiddmore questions?! didnt you ask enough?!08:23
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coderusyour questions limit on this channel exceeded. :D08:33
squidd:D08:33
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tortoisedoccoderus : in lipstick=08:38
tortoisedoc*?08:39
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coderustortoisedoc: yes of course08:40
coderusall you see in homescreeh is lipstick parts08:40
tortoisedoccoderus : yes that i know, but while I could find the lockscreen clock , I can't seem to be able to find this call widget08:45
tortoisedoc:<08:45
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coderusdid you unpacked lipstick binary compiled qml resources to search in?08:46
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tortoisedoccoderus : can you do that??08:46
tortoisedocwith what tool?08:47
coderushands.sys and hexedit :)08:47
coderusyes i can08:47
coderusbut probably i cant share content of lipstick to public08:47
tortoisedochttp://www.qt-sys.com.au/ ?08:48
tortoisedocI did not know resource unpackers existed08:48
tortoisedocsorry link above points to completely unrelated web page :D08:49
coderusyou need to reconsruct rcc from binary08:51
coderusmake temp project including precompiled rcc08:51
coderusand make easy recursive resource extract08:51
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tortoisedoccoderus : seems like qtresources sys has no support for res discovery08:54
tortoisedocI assume something more low level is needed?08:54
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coderusQDir(":")?08:57
tortoisedocd'oh08:57
* tortoisedoc has no nose for obvious things and okkam's razor D08:58
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pratikhello09:20
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elenrilare there any changes in the kernel in the update?10:14
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elenrilah, i see encryptfs got enabled and a few other things10:18
elenrilcould i bug someone to enable the tomoyo security module, so i don't have to build my own kernels?10:18
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leszekhi11:39
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coderusQAudioCaptureSource in qt5?12:05
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cos-coderus: was possible on harmattan, but not sure about sailfish14:04
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coderusyes harmattan have QAudioCaptureSource14:05
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coderusqt5 have QMediaSource and QMediaControl but its working in some other way14:06
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cos-i'd need to inject audio to call in a work project, but it seems to be impossible on sailfish14:06
cos-we'll need to buy nexus 4's instead of jollas for the project :/14:06
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coderusi want to record my calls14:11
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Stskeepsisnt a n4 similar modema?14:14
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kuroschhey guys how can I use left, right, top, and bottom swipe/flick in a qml based game?14:31
coderuskurosch: what a problem?14:34
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kuroschwanted to mess around with 2048 (git.io/2048) as an silica app. But I was wondering how to get the swyping working when doing it nativly14:36
kuroschcoderus: wanted to mess around with 2048 (git.io/2048) as an silica app. But I was wondering how to get the swyping working when doing it nativly14:37
coderusthere is only page switching native gestures14:38
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kuroschpooop.. thanks coderus by the way love mitakuuluu14:40
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FireFly<tortoisedoc>   with what tool?    ← `strings` works fairly well15:09
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cos-Stskeeps: dunno, but it has been confirmed that with n4 it's possible to inject audio to call in android15:13
cos-if the modem is same, it's just a sw issue that jolla can't do the same15:14
cos-btw i met jope yesterday, he demoed the oled toh. pretty nice..15:14
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coderuskuwell, thats pretty simple :)15:26
coderusabout 204815:26
coderusyou dont meed swype15:26
coderusswype is for switching object gesture15:26
coderusyou need simple mousemove event15:26
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_r_hello15:31
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coderushi?15:54
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Stskeepsmoo15:55
Stskeepscos-: hmmm might be because the n4 one is wired up over usb15:55
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cos-yep.. there is very little information about the subject. but n4 and N9 are the ones that have been confirmed to work15:57
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itsxaoscoderus16:31
itsxaosdo you plan on making a telegram native client? :D16:31
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Skorpy^16:32
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bentzhello!17:01
_r_how are you17:02
bentzfine, you?17:02
_r_im well17:03
_r_i just joined this chat17:03
_r_:)17:03
squiddI'd be intrested in seeing telegram native client17:04
squiddbut mitäkuuluu is working pretty nicely now too17:05
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bentzsoftware companies will take into considesideration sailfishos, if it became more famous.17:11
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bentzi can't wait to see sailfish on my phone :)17:16
_r_same17:21
Stskeepsdid you guys sign up as early adopters, and which devices?17:22
_r_I have a nexus 417:22
_r_I saw the thing on google plus that sledges posted and would really like to test sailfish on my nexus :D17:22
coderusitsxaos: no17:26
coderusi saw many telegram enthusiasts already starting work17:26
itsxaossweet17:27
itsxaoslinks? :D17:27
_r_is there an xmpp client available17:27
Stskeeps_r_: /msg sledges with your name/nickname and devices you have / why you'd like to17:27
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itsxaosbtw i really enjoy mitäkuuluu17:27
_r_Stskeeps: i did :D17:27
itsxaosgreat work on that17:27
_r_thank you :)17:27
bentzunfortunately i have a lg optimus g. i hope in a futur port17:27
bentze97517:27
Stskeepsruns cyanogenmod 10.1?17:28
bentzyes17:28
coderusitsxaos: just saw it on twitter17:28
coderusso no links :)17:28
itsxaosah k17:28
rusty88i asked for a galaxy s3 (non lte)17:29
ArkkisNrusty88, same here :)17:29
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bentzthis lg has similar hardware specification of n4. it also have lte17:30
itsxaosany plans for the cover-thing? i mean its good but still kinda empty and it doesn't have any "buttons"17:30
rusty88arkkisN oh cool :) i can't wait to try, i've already been playing with the sdk and emulator17:31
itsxaosit could have a Disconnect button17:31
itsxaoscoderus: the cover could have a button to change what your profile text says or a button to do a broadcast17:33
coderusitsxaos: since v0.2 mitakuuluu have cover actions17:40
ArkkisNThat is perfect name for the app..17:41
ArkkisNFinnish and means Whats up : D17:42
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itsxaoscoderus: oh crap i need to update17:57
petersen77Hello, sailfish OS looks very nice. Would like to know if there's any progress in porting to SGS3 LTE (i9305)?18:00
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zoldyck_how can I delete some native app's data or Android app data?18:16
zoldyck_in Android there was a button for that18:16
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Almindoris libproc usable from apps?18:43
AlmindorI found it on my jolla phone, am wondering if I can just include/link and go18:43
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Stskeepswhat's libproc?18:45
Almindorlibrary to read /proc18:46
AlmindorI'd rather use a lib for that than write my own parsers18:46
Stskeepshmm18:47
Stskeepsrpm -qf it for me18:47
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Almindorsec.18:47
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Almindorprocps-3.2.8-1.1.1.armv7hl18:49
Stskeepshmm18:49
Stskeepsit has no development headers though18:50
Almindorsuspect it's built more or less from http://procps.sourceforge.net/18:50
AlmindorI think it's a dependency for some base stuff like top18:50
Stskeepsyeah18:50
Almindorbut if I have the dev headers in the SDK18:50
Stskeepsthough doesn't look like public headers18:50
Almindorit should work no?18:50
Stskeepswell, i am looking at the package itself18:51
Stskeepsand it doesn't have development headers..18:51
Almindorlook for procps-develop18:51
Almindoror somesuch18:51
Stskeepsi know, i maintain the core distro :P18:51
Almindor:D18:51
Stskeepsit's not there18:51
Almindorok sorry ;)18:51
Almindorwell I could always just get the header file and manually put it in the SDK I guess18:51
AlmindorI wanted to write a sysmonitor thing18:51
Stskeepsyeah, i guess18:51
Stskeepsthough i doubt it's an allowed library to link to in harbour qa scripts18:52
Almindor"Lighthouse" :)18:52
Almindorhmm18:52
Stskeepsthought is good though18:52
Almindormaybe add the headers and make it available then?18:52
AlmindorI think it might be very needed eventually18:52
Stskeepsprivate api is never a good idea to publish ;)18:52
AlmindorI can also include the wholy thing myself I guess, that's possible right?18:53
Almindor*whole18:53
Stskeepsyes18:53
Stskeepsprobably saner18:53
AlmindorI think it's just a parser, no kernel connection or anything18:54
Almindorthanks, I'll do it that way18:54
AlmindorI think I'll use a newer one too18:54
Stskeepsyeah, proc is very fun to interact with18:55
Almindor*not*18:55
tbr/sys is fun too, for bdsm-values of fun18:55
Almindor/class in android is fun18:56
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AlmindorI wrote a usb-to-wlan interface pairing parser for /class and /proc once18:56
AlmindorI think it was /sys/class tho, so you beat me to it18:56
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AL13Nheh, at noon, i was at a restaurant, and my battery percentage was 10%... i had forgotten to charge it for a couple of days and forgot the charger as well... actually 5h later, the percentage was  still 10%, then we went to mother-in-laws place and 2h later, the percentage was 9%, but then i started taking pictures for a while, draining the battery to about 6%, and now, 3h after that, when i got home, it was still at 5%, and i could char21:18
AL13Nthe android from work, had been around halfway battery and is turned off before i could charge it21:18
AL13Nboth with wifi + data online21:19
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ruskieAL13N, nice to hear that hehe21:27
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petersen77Hello everybody. Since I love trying different ROMs for my SGS3 LTE I would like to know if there's any progress in porting sailfish OS. Thanks, Peter21:30
fk_lxpetersen77: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H08xR8XvGds21:32
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petersen77Thanks for the link. My phone did just a reboot without warning. Any chance to get somewhere the needed files for testing?21:50
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avivbyoAnynews about early adopters release? I heard it'll be "Early Next week"21:52
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fk_lxpetersen77: ping sledges and ask about early adopters22:31
fk_lxpetersen77: that way you will have chance to test it soon22:31
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ArkkisNsledges, is in London atm I think.22:34
ArkkisNaka not around22:34
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