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| sailer | hi | 04:24 |
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| sailer | anyone out there ? | 04:24 |
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| jake9xx_ | sure | 05:02 |
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| situ | Morning | 05:38 |
| Stskeeps | morn situ | 05:39 |
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| stephg | morning everyeone | 07:02 |
| Arkkis | HA! | 07:03 |
| Arkkis | Woke up same time as me | 07:03 |
| Arkkis | This requires ultimate skills | 07:03 |
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| Arkkis | stephg, the only thing to be an early adopter was to send msg to sledges with email 'n' stuff? | 07:16 |
| stephg | Arkkis, yep that's it | 07:16 |
| stephg | did you talk to him here as well? | 07:17 |
| Arkkis | Nope. | 07:17 |
| Arkkis | He hasn't been online since I came here.. | 07:17 |
| Arkkis | or not at same time atleast | 07:17 |
| stephg | ah | 07:17 |
| stephg | well if you mailed him that should be enough | 07:17 |
| stephg | he's the one keeping The List | 07:17 |
| Arkkis | Mailed? | 07:17 |
| Arkkis | I only sent private msg in IRC | 07:18 |
| stephg | messaged | 07:18 |
| Arkkis | ;) | 07:18 |
| stephg | with your email in tho yeah? | 07:18 |
| Arkkis | Fooled me. | 07:18 |
| Arkkis | yeah | 07:18 |
| stephg | cool | 07:18 |
| stephg | that's it then | 07:18 |
| Arkkis | eta? | 07:18 |
| stephg | well Stskeeps said unless something goes terribly wrong, it'd be today | 07:18 |
| Arkkis | Yep.. heard it. Actually got you two mixed up. I hope he wokes up soon too : D | 07:19 |
| Stskeeps | today. | 07:21 |
| Arkkis | Ha! again.. | 07:21 |
| stephg | that full stop looks very final ;) | 07:21 |
| Arkkis | I already installed 10.1.3 last night | 07:22 |
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| gabriel9|work | is there any plans to create tabs on sailfish? | 08:17 |
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| stephg | tabs? | 08:23 |
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| gabriel9|work | https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-October/000812.html | 08:25 |
| gabriel9|work | i found this thread | 08:25 |
| gabriel9|work | tabs like in tweetian | 08:25 |
| gabriel9|work | i am creating app for cinema, and i heve 2 pages: what is playing now and what is coming next | 08:26 |
| gabriel9|work | Main page is what is playing now and in pulley i put refresh | 08:27 |
| gabriel9|work | and for some reason i don't like idea to put link to new page in pulley menu | 08:28 |
| stephg | aaah | 08:28 |
| stephg | gotcha | 08:28 |
| stephg | the reply to that iirc was tabs no, but pages as you say like in tweetian | 08:28 |
| flux | soo, where do I find the things I need to know to write a new Account type (for sharing pictures) to Jolla? | 08:29 |
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| flux | this probably is a better starting point than some, but.. https://code.google.com/p/accounts-sso/downloads/list | 08:33 |
| gabriel9|work | as i see in sailfish silica lib there is no tabs | 08:35 |
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| flux | though it doesn't answer my question, it's cool things like this exists: http://hardcodes.de/SailfishOS/Developing-with-SailfishOS.pdf | 08:38 |
| Nightmare__ | gabriel9|work, you can load a page in background, it is indicated by a dot, with swipe you can navigate between the pages | 08:46 |
| gabriel9|work | like in friends app | 08:48 |
| gabriel9|work | hm, i dont like it | 08:49 |
| gabriel9|work | it is not user friendly | 08:49 |
| Nightmare__ | like in messeging app, after you oppened a conversation | 08:50 |
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| gabriel9|work | yea | 08:59 |
| gabriel9|work | that also | 08:59 |
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| roboro | hey... its tomorrow... today | 09:10 |
| Arkkis | it is morning also :) Soon | 09:11 |
| Nightmare__ | tomorrow never dies :) | 09:12 |
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| Jaggl | Hello everyone. I have a spare Nexus 4 on my desk - is there a way to get an alpha of sailfish to try on it? | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | you sign up with a message to sledges with your name / nickname / email and why | 10:23 |
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| jussi | yay, my package containing the xperia pro has arrived... now just to wait for the porting guide :D | 10:27 |
| jussi | so that will be the second device for sailfish to go on :D | 10:27 |
| jussi | (well, 3rd, but the other 2 are a pick any one, but not both) | 10:28 |
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| netzvieh | flux: SailfishOS sync - to test caldav, see http://pastebin.com/qmdhteGW and http://pastebin.com/kZzVh045 maybe that gives you a starting point. It's for the caldav sync stuff (and not fully operational). you might also want to look at the buteo-sync* stuff at nemomobile github, not sure if there's proper docs atm | 10:51 |
| netzvieh | flux: basically you need the service and provider stuff, qml for the settings and some other code | 10:52 |
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| flux | netzvieh, ok. I suppose those are part of Sailfish OS, not Qt itself? | 11:08 |
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| netzvieh | flux: I'm not sure what you're talking about | 11:10 |
| flux | so can I look into Qt documentation about this or not?-) | 11:11 |
| flux | but thanks for the pointers | 11:12 |
| netzvieh | well it uses libaccounts-qt5 and libsignon-qt5, so at least for part of it you should be able to find qt docs | 11:12 |
| flux | actually things like /usr/share/accounts/services/picasa.service seem relevant | 11:12 |
| netzvieh | flux: yes, you need a provider & a service file | 11:13 |
| netzvieh | placed in the corresponding subfolders of /usr/share/accounts | 11:14 |
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| leszek | hi | 11:27 |
| coderus | Mitakuuluu update v0.2-4. Major bugfixies included. | 11:28 |
| Nightmare__ | :) | 11:28 |
| leszek | roboro: hi, read your comment on my videoplayer. Its a nice idea with QtAV but it lacks hardware acceleration support for jolla currently and that is something not easily done I guess. All in all I still hope for gstreamer 1.0 to hit sailfishos which should fix most of the problems that are there today | 11:30 |
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| roboro | hi leszek | 11:31 |
| roboro | yeah... I looked into qtav a bit more... looks like there are a few dependencies that we would have to settle as well | 11:32 |
| roboro | any idea when gstreamer 1.0 may hit? | 11:32 |
| roboro | the other issue is how to get around all the harbour requirements | 11:32 |
| leszek | coderus: Mitakuuluu asks me to register after the update on v0.2-4. I already did that some time ago with the old version ? Is it a bug ? | 11:34 |
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| coderus | roboro: leszek: is GStreamerVideoOuput component not hardware accelerated? | 11:34 |
| leszek | coderus: it is | 11:34 |
| coderus | leszek: no idea, send me logfile to confirm | 11:34 |
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| avivbyo | Today is the big day :D i cant wait | 11:35 |
| Nightmare__ | coderus, mine did ask for reg too, just entered the phonenumber again->everything was ok | 11:36 |
| Nightmare__ | but there is a little bug in the ui | 11:36 |
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| coderus | Nightmare__: do shutdown engile and start again | 11:37 |
| kyo167 | Hi | 11:37 |
| coderus | will be registration asked again? | 11:37 |
| Nightmare__ | https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_SufwEBV2XkRnE0aEVROVZ5NTA/edit?usp=sharing | 11:38 |
| Nightmare__ | reg worked for me, wasn'T a problem | 11:39 |
| avivbyo | Umm may i ask about what are you talking? | 11:39 |
| Nightmare__ | new mitäkuuluu version 2.4 | 11:39 |
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| Nightmare__ | coderus, that link above is the ui bug i ment | 11:40 |
| Nightmare__ | you can push the pushupmenu too far | 11:41 |
| leszek | roboro: the only thing I guess that would allow into harbour would be a fork or copy of sailfish.media 1.0 like ytplayer did it | 11:42 |
| Almindor | what component is the circular slider? can't seem to find it in silica reference | 11:43 |
| leszek | roboro: see the "ugly hack" here: https://github.com/tworaz/sailfish-ytplayer/blob/master/src/YTPlayer.cpp | 11:43 |
| roboro | leszek: sorry... on phone brb | 11:43 |
| Almindor | oh it's just timepicker.. | 11:43 |
| Almindor | I thought there was a singular circle one | 11:43 |
| coderus | Nightmare__: oh thanks, missed that bug, will be fixed in next release | 11:46 |
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| coderus | Nightmare__: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu/commit/b1ce0095293632b681a3ab7be9b9220153775b59 | 11:50 |
| coderus | use this for hotfixing if want | 11:50 |
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| ChimChim | Hey guys :) Big release today?:) | 11:51 |
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| Nightmare__ | oh thx, i'll do that :D | 11:53 |
| avivbyo | ChimChim: probably , yeah | 11:53 |
| ChimChim | AWesome! | 11:53 |
| coderus | what is Big Release? | 11:54 |
| coderus | Sailfish SW? | 11:54 |
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| roboro | leszek: ha ha... I love the ugly hack | 11:56 |
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| roboro | so as long as you hide your import in a chunk of binary its fine with harbour | 11:56 |
| leszek | roboro: it seems just to be hack to trick the automatic harbour checking system | 11:56 |
| roboro | sort of makes harbour a bit of a joke... doesn't it | 11:56 |
| leszek | yeah. But I guess no one checked the code really. They just ran the build checker and tested if the app started and worked | 11:57 |
| roboro | why is importing sailfish.media 1.0 out of bounds? | 11:57 |
| lbt | depends .. if you think of the harbour checker as something to be fooled or something we offer to help responsible app developers ensure their users get the best experience :) | 11:58 |
| avivbyo | coderus: Sailfish OS for N4\SGSIII(4G) | 11:59 |
| roboro | well... I'm all for providing the best experience... but I also realize that there are always going to be shortcomings.... if I can't make my app harbour compliant... I'll keep it available on openrepos | 11:59 |
| lbt | leszek: we don't have the resources to check the code - we hope we can trust our devs to work with us and respect the rules we lay out. | 12:00 |
| Nightmare__ | coderus, your hotfix for the pushupmenu works fine | 12:00 |
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| roboro | I'm not that fussed... if it works for me... then I'm happy... I just thought more people might enjoy exposure to the app | 12:00 |
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| lbt | roboro: that's cool too - and working through these issues is what we want to do | 12:00 |
| leszek | lbt: the ytplayer example shows that it seems not to be possible to code a video player "harbour" compliant | 12:00 |
| roboro | lbt: why is sailfish.media 1.0 not allowed as an import? | 12:00 |
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| lbt | roboro: I wish I knew - almost certainly because we've not nailed down the API yet | 12:01 |
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| roboro | it seems to me that if it is used for a base jolla application, then we should be able to use it as well... | 12:01 |
| leszek | roboro: I guess they planned api changes thats the reason why | 12:02 |
| lbt | well - that doesn't hold for all apis | 12:02 |
| lbt | we can ensure that all internal apps are changed in lock-step with a release | 12:02 |
| lbt | we can't do that for store apps | 12:02 |
| leszek | it would break our apps if they would change the api with an update and it would look bad then | 12:03 |
| lbt | and please don't think I like this either :) | 12:03 |
| lbt | yep | 12:03 |
| roboro | point taken... it would just be nice to know when this will be permitted | 12:03 |
| lbt | and if you go AWOL ... what then ? | 12:03 |
| lbt | roboro: yep - we had a meetup at FOSDEM and discussed this | 12:03 |
| roboro | heh... fair enough | 12:03 |
| lbt | (just fyi) | 12:03 |
| lbt | so it's something we try to discuss as openly as possible (it doesn't get much more open!) | 12:04 |
| lbt | it's also quite hard to explain in irc in a few lines | 12:04 |
| roboro | awesome... I'm fine with that... | 12:04 |
| lbt | and in docs it's *waay* too tl;dr; | 12:04 |
| roboro | I'll stick with openrepos and if things change in the future, I'll think about copying over to harbour | 12:05 |
| lbt | so there is an element of 'trust us' ... but feel free to verify, nag and suggest :) | 12:05 |
| lbt | yeah - you may want to help tbr with the community QA'ed repos too | 12:05 |
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| roboro | no problem... the kind of stuff I generally do is probably not going to make it into harbour anyway | 12:05 |
| lbt | that's something I'll try to help push (Mer/community hat on there) | 12:06 |
| lbt | yeah - chum and OBS is more for providing QA'ed shared libraries etc | 12:06 |
| lbt | and allowing a more linuxy-distro feel | 12:06 |
| roboro | mmmm I'd be glad to get involved... not sure what I can do or where to start... but I'm keen to see mer grow | 12:06 |
| roboro | I use OBS to build bits and bobs that I need as it is... not even sure how to get stuff approved for mer... | 12:07 |
| tbr | lbt: maybe he could help you shape policies and things first. I'm for various reasons currently reduced to do janitorial work on chum, aka testing SRs | 12:07 |
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| lbt | would be great | 12:07 |
| roboro | mmm happy to help | 12:08 |
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| roboro | if you want to get in touch... drop me a mail at roboro@xplode.org | 12:08 |
| * roboro just sees his spam index jump | 12:08 | |
| lbt | hehe | 12:08 |
| roboro | I'd love to get more involved with this stuff... | 12:09 |
| sledges | roboro: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution#Contributing_to_packages | 12:09 |
| lbt | it's been brewing for a while: http://mer-l-in.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/meego-community-development-apps.html | 12:09 |
| lbt | has some background | 12:09 |
| sledges | slightly outdated, but has the gist (note, that's for mer-core) | 12:09 |
| roboro | I have a full time job... so I could probably only be able to handle small chunks at a time | 12:09 |
| lbt | roboro: that's how I started on this stuff :) | 12:10 |
| roboro | mmm I'll do some reading and then see if I can get involved | 12:11 |
| lbt | also - do ask about sailfish.media 1.0 on together... it's more persistent there | 12:12 |
| roboro | I'll try get around to it today | 12:12 |
| lbt | :) ty | 12:13 |
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| roboro | lbt: https://together.jolla.com/question/36606/stabilize-the-sailfish-media-api-and-provide-harbour-support-for-video-apps/ | 12:30 |
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| Almindor | hmm I can't get emulator to work, keys never match up (even after regeneration) | 12:32 |
| Almindor | am I doing something wrong? | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | bing! | 12:35 |
| NoGy_ | yay | 12:36 |
| * lbt checks his email.... | 12:37 | |
| NoGy_ | lbt: make sure to be seated while checking | 12:37 |
| stephg | lol | 12:37 |
| sledges | D; no email in my inbox | 12:39 |
| lbt | F5 | 12:39 |
| stephg | only the servers email me :/ | 12:39 |
| stephg | all the time | 12:39 |
| stephg | it never ends | 12:39 |
| lbt | stephg: my servers love me too ... | 12:39 |
| stephg | hehe | 12:40 |
| sledges | i'll wait patiently until the times comes :) | 12:40 |
| stephg | hey sledges that's my line ;) | 12:40 |
| stephg | oooh | 12:40 |
| stephg | a greylisted email | 12:40 |
| stephg | from jolla | 12:40 |
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| * fogWraith straps himself to a chair | 12:45 | |
| fogWraith | Lovely e-mail, let me follow the guidelines | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | ok, all sent out | 12:45 |
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| RocketD0G | Hey, a quick question. I'm getting a Nokia Lumia 900 for free if i want it. Can i port Sailfish to it ? | 12:46 |
| avivbyo | WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I GOT THE MAIL! | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | RocketD0G: no, it has a locked bootloader and doesn't run sailfishos | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | err | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | run android | 12:47 |
| RocketD0G | Aww, damn. It's trash then. :) | 12:47 |
| squidd | :O | 12:47 |
| tanty | guys, what do you use in your qmake .pro files | 12:47 |
| lbt | RocketD0G: you can do what I did and sell it on eBay to buy a decent phone... | 12:47 |
| tanty | to identify you are running in Sailfish? | 12:48 |
| squidd | lbt: no, he said its trash! | 12:48 |
| squidd | RocketD0G: send your trash to me! | 12:48 |
| RocketD0G | squidd: I'll check XDA if they're done something fun to it. :) | 12:48 |
| RocketD0G | lbt: Lumia 900 goes for no money here in Finland :D | 12:49 |
| ChimChim | avivbyo not sure if troll or.. | 12:49 |
| squidd | RocketD0G: older people seem to like lumia thingies | 12:49 |
| avivbyo | no really , i got it | 12:49 |
| ChimChim | ;_; | 12:49 |
| chat375 | ooh no email for me :( | 12:49 |
| ChimChim | the wait and then the slap in the face ;_; | 12:50 |
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| Stskeeps | if you haven't gotten it, msg me your e-mail | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | and check your spam folders | 12:50 |
| RocketD0G | squidd: True, I had a Samsung Galaxy Young that sold for quite good money when i themed it to W8 :D | 12:50 |
| jepped | stskeeps, still time to raise my hand or did you already select your testers? | 12:51 |
| squidd | :D | 12:51 |
| alin | once again what was the address for early adapters? | 12:51 |
| ChimChim | I checked and got nothing ;_; | 12:51 |
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| * lbt wonders what the prize is for the first community youtube ? | 12:52 | |
| Stskeeps | a hug? | 12:52 |
| sledges | jepped: never too late until it's public ;) | 12:53 |
| RocketD0G | what the actual shite. how come a lumia 900 is locked down that badly :D | 12:53 |
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| sledges | RocketD0G: you just answered your question :) | 12:54 |
| * Stskeeps looks for a cold beer | 12:54 | |
| * jussi hands a carlsberg elephant to Stskeeps | 12:55 | |
| RocketD0G | sledges: yes. went to xda to try to find something to do with the free one I can get if i wanted it. but that's just evil by nokia :D | 12:55 |
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| stephg | ooh it is nearly beer o'clock | 12:56 |
| lbt | please! ... it's nearly bacon o'clock! | 12:56 |
| jussi | lbt: ITS always BACON OCLOCK | 12:56 |
| Mnsu | why not both? | 12:56 |
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| NoGy | bearcon? | 12:56 |
| lbt | jussi: mmm | 12:56 |
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| jussi | hrm, oops, had caps lock on there... | 12:57 |
| Mnsu | bacon flavored beer? | 12:57 |
| jussi | Mnsu: errr.... | 12:57 |
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| sledges | gin o'clock (c) the Queen | 12:59 |
| stephg | hic | 13:00 |
| * Stskeeps hopes it all works | 13:00 | |
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| carepack | yeah. email received! | 13:04 |
| carepack | thx a lot | 13:04 |
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| bentz | hello! | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | hewwo | 13:04 |
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| * Morpog_Jolla_ looks at his poor Nexus7 | 13:08 | |
| Stskeeps | Morpog_Jolla_: don't worry, you'll get it in due time | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | one thing at a time | 13:08 |
| Morpog_Jolla_ | :D | 13:08 |
| ChimChim | oh snap, no call audio yet ;_; Guess I'll have to wait for the next release.. | 13:09 |
| fk_lx_j_ | Congratulations for the work to team Sailfish on Android devices | 13:09 |
| avivbyo | Installing right now , video capturing is on! | 13:09 |
| Aliander | Woohoo! Can't wait to get out of work today | 13:10 |
| fogWraith | Best part of sending files and trying to install this, is that people are calling and interrupting the process :P | 13:10 |
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| Stskeeps | ChimChim: yeah, it's a silly permissions issue supposedly | 13:10 |
| netzvieh | Stskeeps: why installing 4.2.2 and then 10.1? | 13:12 |
| jussi | I guess either Im lower on the list, or just not loved anymore... | 13:12 |
| NoGy | netzvieh: first guess: radio rom revision is essential | 13:13 |
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| ChimChim | Stskeeps, shame because I don't really mind about the other bugs and such but I really need to make calls haha | 13:14 |
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| Stskeeps | netzvieh: modem images | 13:16 |
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| netzvieh | NoGy: Stskeeps, mhh makes sense :) | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | i just want to have a stable config underneath | 13:17 |
| SergioKravtsov | Thank you! Will try today at evening to install it in dualboot with android | 13:18 |
| * jussi cries on Stskeeps's shoulder | 13:18 | |
| * Stskeeps comforts jussi with a kangaroo lullaby | 13:19 | |
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| jussi | Stskeeps: I'm incredibly disappointed and hurt | 13:19 |
| lbt | more beer will fix that | 13:19 |
| jussi | sniff | 13:19 |
| lbt | see - it's working already :) | 13:20 |
| jussi | heh | 13:20 |
| jussi | lbt: but but but!!! I want my sailfish.... | 13:20 |
| lbt | right ... food time ... all that bacon talk... | 13:20 |
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| NoGy | Stskeeps: One question: How long does the step "Running installation script" take? >5min? | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | NoGy: it takes quite a bit | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | if it dosen't fail, that's good | 13:22 |
| NoGy | no, still going strong | 13:22 |
| NoGy | ah, there we go | 13:22 |
| sledges | it's something substantial ;) | 13:23 |
| * NoGy feels welcome aboard | 13:23 | |
| kimmoli | hmm, i feel i have missed something great | 13:26 |
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| SergioKravtsov | kimmoli, check your e-mail | 13:27 |
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| avivbyo | Damn , no hebrew :( | 13:28 |
| sledges | SergioKravtsov: he's not on ;) | 13:28 |
| kimmoli | i'm loyal to the hw | 13:29 |
| sledges | and TOHs it gives ;) | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | btw, first impressions of nexus 4 image welcome | 13:30 |
| kimmoli | waiting my own schedule entry "power up UDOO" | 13:30 |
| tbr | ah, NoGy popped up as expected :D | 13:30 |
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| sledges | avivbyo: how's your hebrew l10t team doing? ;) | 13:31 |
| avivbyo | sledges: finally formed a group of 10 people | 13:31 |
| sledges | vgood | 13:31 |
| avivbyo | sledges: we can start working now but sailfish it self seem not to under stand hebrew | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | avivbyo: it's a conf file, AFAIK | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | and a font issue | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | i think there's a talk.maemo.org issue on VKB.. sec | 13:32 |
| avivbyo | There is | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91917 | 13:32 |
| avivbyo | i got it | 13:32 |
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| NoGy | tbr: sure | 13:35 |
| avivbyo | And how do i change my ambiance color :) ? | 13:35 |
| stephg | avivbyo, on the N4 in the gallery | 13:35 |
| Stskeeps | avivbyo: go change ambience in gallery for example | 13:35 |
| avivbyo | Got it , awesome | 13:36 |
| NoGy | the browser is surprisingly nice for such an early firmware | 13:37 |
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| tbr | NoGy: and it's open source, so you can send pull requests | 13:38 |
| sledges | it's jolla's u4 | 13:38 |
| sledges | as-is | 13:38 |
| sledges | no-one's left out :) | 13:39 |
| tbr | now I just need jusa to show up and bring back my Nexus4 ;) | 13:39 |
| flux | what is the /swap subvolume in jolla? an unfinished idea? | 13:39 |
| rusty88 | hi everyone, i got the early adopter e-mail.. just got a question, I have a galaxy s3 (I9300) if I install the rom for the galaxy s3 lte (I9305) will it work? i mean aside from more memory and the modem the rest of the HW is the same | 13:39 |
| sledges | no | 13:39 |
| sledges | sorry :) | 13:39 |
| rusty88 | oh ok, what a shame :( | 13:42 |
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| sledges | wait till next iteration :) | 13:42 |
| tbr | rusty88: I guess you could take the hardware adaptation for the 9305 and try to create one for the 9300 based on that. But it's more work than "drop in this zip" | 13:42 |
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| avivbyo | Calendar app seems to crash | 13:44 |
| Thybo | is there so much difference between s3 and s3 4g? | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, modem is different | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | avivbyo: hmmm, crash? | 13:45 |
| avivbyo | Yeah | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | works for me | 13:45 |
| avivbyo | Like force closeing | 13:45 |
| Thybo | who needs a modem anyways '-_- | 13:45 |
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| Stskeeps | avivbyo: sure you're not accidentially pulling from the top by chance? | 13:45 |
| avivbyo | I am actually pulled | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | does it show the (x) thing? | 13:45 |
| avivbyo | then it crashes | 13:46 |
| avivbyo | once i use the pulley menu | 13:46 |
| avivbyo | but sometimes he | 13:46 |
| avivbyo | he is fine* | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | ok, get a video of it and we'll take it forward -- this is exactly the same os as is running latest jolla devices | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | so it might just be a touch sensitivity issue | 13:46 |
| avivbyo | Okay | 13:46 |
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| Stskeeps | avivbyo: thanks for reporting :) | 13:49 |
| avivbyo | another bug found lol | 13:49 |
| rusty88 | does anyone want to help porting to s3 ? xD | 13:49 |
| rusty88 | or at least point me in the right direction ? | 13:49 |
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| Stskeeps | rusty88: it'll be quite easy once the hardware adaptation kit comes out | 13:49 |
| avivbyo | Settings app Device lock feature crashes when using pulley menu | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that's expected | 13:50 |
| rusty88 | Stkeeps: ahh ok :) i'll be waiting | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | and noted in the known issues | 13:50 |
| avivbyo | What noted? | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | oh feh | 13:51 |
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| Stskeeps | somebody renamed device lock to device clock :) | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | my bad, that should have been noted | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | it uses a special security partition to store lock code and that's not available in this port just yet | 13:52 |
| sledges | let's see how many others test device lock ;) | 13:53 |
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| Stskeeps | avivbyo: performance is fine, right? | 13:54 |
| avivbyo | Yes it is | 13:54 |
| avivbyo | Actually quite smooth | 13:54 |
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| Stskeeps | good | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | this is the first rollout to factual users of this, so a bit worried about how our baby deals with real life ;) | 13:55 |
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| Stskeeps | anybody hit any installation problems so far? | 13:57 |
| rm_work | Stskeeps: ooh, sailfish rollout to the public? :P | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | rm_work: nexus 4 | 13:57 |
| rm_work | ah, nice | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | rm_work: got one? | 13:57 |
| rm_work | yes | 13:57 |
| natorious | Stskeeps: just downloaded. Will find out soon :) | 13:57 |
| rm_work | but i gave it to my GF :( | 13:57 |
| olidadude | Hello my name is /Me and i would love to install sailfish on my nexus 4 :D anybody got instruchtions? | 13:57 |
| rm_work | using N5 ow | 13:57 |
| rm_work | *now | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | rm_work: ah, good time to steal it back then ;) | 13:58 |
| rm_work | hehe | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | olidadude: sign up with sledges as an early adopter | 13:58 |
| avivbyo | Damn , i can't connect to the ssh | 13:58 |
| sledges | olidadude: pm me your real name, and related motivational experience :) | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | avivbyo: settings->system->developer mode , remote connection ? | 13:58 |
| sledges | avivbyo: via usb? | 13:58 |
| avivbyo | Got it via wifi | 13:59 |
| olidadude | @sledges already wrote you in hangouts my name is Olivier Gafer | 13:59 |
| avivbyo | can posibbly login as root? | 13:59 |
| sledges | olidadude: thanks, next task it to pm me here ;) | 13:59 |
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| Stskeeps | avivbyo: devel-su -> use same password | 13:59 |
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| avivbyo | How can i move files to ny device? | 14:01 |
| avivbyo | im trying for a hour or so | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | avivbyo: scp? mtp isn't working | 14:01 |
| avivbyo | Okay | 14:01 |
| avivbyo | how do i login via SCP? | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | ssh credentials | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | scp = secure copy over ssh :) | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | sftp also exists | 14:02 |
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| avivbyo | got me confused | 14:02 |
| avivbyo | so i'll get in via SSH | 14:02 |
| avivbyo | then? | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok, let me say it a different way | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | from your pc | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | scp filename nemo@your-nexus4-ip:~ | 14:03 |
| avivbyo | Oh i get it | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | that places it in ~ / home directory of nemo on the device | 14:03 |
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| fogWraith | ah, finally... no more interruptions, time to install this... smooth sailing! | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 14:06 |
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| fogWraith | It's definately doing stuff, booting for the first time now | 14:08 |
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| Thybo | fogWraith: lucky uu | 14:09 |
| Thybo | btw any one knows how to unbrick a N9? | 14:09 |
| pp_ | reflash? | 14:10 |
| sledges | Thybo: it's unbrickable (unless you messed with CAL) | 14:10 |
| Thybo | CAL is? | 14:11 |
| carepack | stskeeps: the email you send is ready for beeing shared public? | 14:11 |
| Thybo | it was flashing | 14:11 |
| Thybo | and i sort of unplugged it in the first step | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | carepack: well, we say for early adopters only, but we know how people love forbidden fruit.. | 14:11 |
| sledges | Thybo: along the lines of 'area of loader of the bootloader' | 14:11 |
| Thybo | my brain only activated after i moved | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | carepack: it's all about mutual trust :) | 14:11 |
| Thybo | i'm afraid it might be that sledges | 14:11 |
| carepack | stskeeps: fast http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general/sailfish-android-devices-release-t2696409 | 14:11 |
| rm_work | oh, I do still have ny N950 | 14:11 |
| Thybo | coz screen is just black :( | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | carepack: yeah, 30 minutes, i was impressed | 14:11 |
| sledges | Thybo: if you interrupted flashing, try flashing again | 14:12 |
| rm_work | is there an updated image for that along with this release? | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | no, n9 isn't supported by our effort | 14:12 |
| Thybo | i can't connect anymore | 14:12 |
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| Stskeeps | carepack: perhaps we should try the Streisand effect, ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect | 14:13 |
| rm_work | :( | 14:13 |
| Stskeeps | rm_work: long story short jolla can't support it as licensing on it is evil | 14:13 |
| carepack | FIRTS IMPRESSION - GREAT | 14:13 |
| Thybo | hehe | 14:13 |
| rm_work | wow, licensing on N950 evil? gogo Nokia? :/ | 14:14 |
| Thybo | if the firts impression is great then it's all good hehe | 14:14 |
| rm_work | so much for "open platform" | 14:14 |
| rm_work | (not that it really was, ever, but...) | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | carepack: we're happy that people share their experiences, blog about it, tweet, pictures, videos | 14:14 |
| carepack | stskeeps: the only thing - was this intended by jolla ;) | 14:14 |
| carepack | we do | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | carepack: the alternative would just be way too much effort | 14:14 |
| Thybo | sledges: any solution if CAT is messed up? | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | hiding things is so burdensome | 14:14 |
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| fogWraith | First impression; awesome | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | good | 14:16 |
| fogWraith | The subtle watermark, I kind of feel that its in the way, as in not subtle enough :P | 14:16 |
| Thybo | lol | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | fogWraith: i did wonder if we should make it clippy style instead | 14:17 |
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| Stskeeps | "Did you know that this software is not production quality?" | 14:17 |
| fogWraith | ;D | 14:17 |
| Flyser | apple does a better job at "leaking" things :P | 14:17 |
| fogWraith | All the transparency and sweeping here and there is great and all, but having that thing in the back when trying to read the menus makes it kinda get in the way | 14:19 |
| fogWraith | Then again, it will go away later, so, ill live with it ;) | 14:19 |
| flotron | Sailfish is better than my dreams | 14:20 |
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| carepack | flotron: +1 | 14:20 |
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| Flyser | Stskeeps: will you release a document describing how to port sailfish os to other android devices? or is something like that already available? | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | Flyser: yes, but not yet | 14:22 |
| starkers | happy to have sf up on my mako :-) | 14:22 |
| Flyser | great :) | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | starkers: cool, works fine? | 14:22 |
| starkers | seems OK | 14:22 |
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| starkers | stuffs borked as expected but at least its not android haha | 14:23 |
| flotron | i didn't wipe after installation and i have aptoide and some other android apps that don't work | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | Flyser: hehe | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | er, flotron | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | flotron: i had the exact same thing in MWC. | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | flotron: i was starting to wonder a bit wtf when i saw ubuntu and google play icons | 14:24 |
| starkers | heh | 14:24 |
| flotron | hehe, the wipe and reinstall solved that | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | and i realized that the person who flashed the device didn't wipe the deviec first, so it picked up /data/app/* | 14:24 |
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| Nicd- | Stskeeps + other Jolla/Mer folk: congrats on the release :) | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 14:26 |
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| sledges | :) | 14:28 |
| Nicd- | btw, just remember the Galaxy Gio has only 512 MB space total, I assume that's not enough? | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | ram? | 14:28 |
| flotron | Stskeeps: check out this photo http://1drv.ms/1g3Y9Pp | 14:28 |
| Nicd- | Stskeeps: storage | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | flotron: hehe, yes | 14:29 |
| Stskeeps | Nicd-: not bad | 14:29 |
| Stskeeps | Nicd-: microsd? | 14:29 |
| Nicd- | wonder if it would be possible to make it boot from SD | 14:29 |
| Nicd- | yep, it has microsd up to 32 gn | 14:29 |
| Nicd- | gb* | 14:29 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:29 |
| Stskeeps | that helps | 14:29 |
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| natorious | this is odd. After downgrading to 4.2.2 I'm not able to connect the nexus as a media device to copy over cm or sf | 14:29 |
| fogWraith | the ringtone is nice, now if there was some audio ;) | 14:29 |
| Nicd- | Stskeeps: good to hear :) | 14:29 |
| Stskeeps | fogWraith: audio works, but it might be in mp3 format | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | natorious: adb sideload works too | 14:30 |
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| natorious | k, I'll give that a go | 14:30 |
| fogWraith | Oh I meant audio for calls :P | 14:31 |
| netzvieh | mhh I crashed the UI :D | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | netzvieh: cool, how? | 14:32 |
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| netzvieh | starting camera app and pulling to see clock | 14:32 |
| netzvieh | (while it was initializing) | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | netzvieh: ah, interesting | 14:33 |
| * Stskeeps tries | 14:33 | |
| flotron | the browser is so smooth | 14:34 |
| euroelessar | netzvieh: I got camera app freezed by your instruction :) | 14:34 |
| netzvieh | so how do I kick UI back on again? | 14:34 |
| netzvieh | never had the problem on my jolla :D | 14:34 |
| flotron | The browser is smoother than Lumia's but the refresh rate of screen seems lower on animations | 14:35 |
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| sledges | flotron: im glad you are comparing this to a productised device ;) | 14:36 |
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| Stskeeps | flotron: we are actually intentionally slowing down animations a bit some places, i think.. | 14:36 |
| netzvieh | well and I have a whole lot of these upowerd[875]: GLIB WARNING ** UPower-Linux - energy_full (2091.000000) is greater than energy_full_design (0.000000) | 14:36 |
| flotron | ok | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | netzvieh: that's just upower being retarded.. | 14:36 |
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| netzvieh | well and the hostname is Jolla instead of localhost on the actual Jolla :D | 14:38 |
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| Stskeeps | netzvieh: nice find | 14:38 |
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| netzvieh | Stskeeps: so can I revive the UI from commandline? | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | netzvieh: it shoould really start up on it's own again | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | power button doesn't work? | 14:40 |
| netzvieh | nope | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok, hold down power button and volume down | 14:40 |
| netzvieh | Mar 27 15:38:58 Jolla mce[826]: modules/display.c: mdy_renderer_set_state_cb(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. | 14:40 |
| netzvieh | Mar 27 15:38:58 Jolla mce[826]: modules/display.c: mdy_stm_step(): ui stop failed, retrying | 14:40 |
| netzvieh | every 2 minutes | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | netzvieh: ok, do a reboot perhaps | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | reboot -f is best i guess | 14:41 |
| coderus | my ubunty received gstreamer1.0 update :) | 14:41 |
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| ryukafalz | Think it's likely that the Moto G will be supported at some point? It's a Snapdragon 400 and officially supported by Cyanogen. Trying to evaluate my options for a new phone. :) | 14:42 |
| netzvieh | ryukafalz: buy a Jolla ;) | 14:42 |
| ryukafalz | netzvieh: Oh how I would love that. ;) Unfortunately it's a bit above my price range. | 14:44 |
| ryukafalz | ...and isn't sold in my country (US) | 14:44 |
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| Sailor10336 | any chance of getting in on being an early adopter of sailfish on nexus 4 | 14:44 |
| ryukafalz | netzvieh: (also doesn't support tmo's 3G bands in most places AFAIK) | 14:45 |
| kengu | Sailor10336: just download the thingies | 14:45 |
| kengu | ? | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | (fwiw it's better to be registered..) | 14:46 |
| NoGy | Hm, screen lock does not work | 14:46 |
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| Stskeeps | NoGy: it works for me, which kind of screen lock? | 14:47 |
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| sledges | Sailor10336: register with me (pm) | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | well | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | works and works, it's a bit buggy | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | (as noted in the release notes) | 14:47 |
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| NoGy | If I set a device lock pin (5 digits), it is double checked, but not used. I'm displayed that ther is no lock in place and I should pull down in order to set one | 14:48 |
| natorious | Stskeeps: how would you go about using sideload if you installed cwm? | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | NoGy: ah | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | NoGy: device lock doesn't work | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | natorious: install zip -> from sideload? | 14:48 |
| Sailor10336 | sledges: how do i register with you | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | and then adb sideload cm first, then sailfish zip | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | NoGy: the release notes should have said device lock, not device clock | 14:49 |
| natorious | k | 14:49 |
| sledges | Sailor10336: send me private message (pm) | 14:49 |
| sledges | via /msg | 14:49 |
| Sailor10336 | sledges: if you.need an email address, it's | 14:51 |
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| natorious | Stskeeps: odd, my nexus 5 cable(which works fine with the nexus 5) seemed to be the issue. Switched cables and it worked :) | 14:52 |
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| Umeaboy | Hi! | 14:54 |
| Umeaboy | Will there be a possibility of dualbooting between two systems? | 14:55 |
| sledges | hello | 14:55 |
| Umeaboy | For non-Jolla devices. | 14:55 |
| Umeaboy | For instance if I'd like to boot either Ubuntu Touch or Sailfish OS on my i9305. | 14:56 |
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| bluebleep | hello, i am interested in becoming an early adopter | 14:57 |
| sledges | bluebleep: pm me | 14:58 |
| Umeaboy | Same here if I can. ;) | 14:58 |
| Umeaboy | I run CM 10.1.3 on my phone now. | 14:59 |
| NoGy | nice, Wireless charging works | 14:59 |
| Eztran | really getting an army of early adopters now the email's gone out, huh? | 14:59 |
| bluebleep | sledges: hello | 14:59 |
| Stskeeps | NoGy: n4 has wireless charging? | 15:00 |
| sledges | bluebleep: it's /msg sledges hello | 15:00 |
| sledges | ;) | 15:00 |
| NoGy | Stskeeps: sure | 15:00 |
| Umeaboy | sledges: Can I PM you as well? | 15:00 |
| sledges | Umeaboy: sure | 15:00 |
| NoGy | Stskeeps: Qi standard | 15:00 |
| sledges | Umeaboy: dualboot - it needs a study of how multiboot/multirom works and how sfos installs it - anyone's welcome to help even now ;) | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | NoGy: good to know, i didn't actually know it :P | 15:01 |
| * jussi hugs Stskeeps and grins | 15:04 | |
| sledges | =^_^= | 15:04 |
| netzvieh | hmm is it normal that the screen stays black when calling someone? even when I press the powerbutton? (don't have a sim in my jolla) | 15:06 |
| * netzvieh is talking about the mako release | 15:06 | |
| Stskeeps | netzvieh: if proximity sensor is activated it turns off to conserve power | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | ie, longer talk time | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | there's something really foobar about proximity sensor on n4 atm | 15:09 |
| netzvieh | Stskeeps: well I called, screen goes black -> can't get it back on | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | netzvieh: ok, noted as a bug | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | as i also wrote, we didn't really test that through terribly well :) | 15:09 |
| netzvieh | ;) | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | plus, call audio doesn't work | 15:10 |
| carepack | fileupload sftp is working fine. | 15:10 |
| tbr | hmm, didn't jusa get call audio working recently? | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: yes but not in this release | 15:10 |
| tbr | ah :) | 15:10 |
| netzvieh | and it froze when i refused the call on the other phone | 15:11 |
| tbr | something for people to look forward to then :) | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | we're planning on many hw adaptation updates, fwiw :P | 15:11 |
| * NoGy sets aside some bandwidth | 15:11 | |
| Stskeeps | and hopefully updateability soon, too | 15:12 |
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| netzvieh | well this time it did not freeze. but the screen stays black after refusing the call :D | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | netzvieh: you're a good tester :) | 15:15 |
| natorious | wpa wireless? | 15:16 |
| netzvieh | Stskeeps: https://gist.github.com/netzvieh/237f1296e74ec696024c this is what I get now when pressing power button | 15:16 |
| jussi | network is getting a hammering right now | 15:16 |
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| natorious | trying to connect to a wpa2 wifi network and am not able to | 15:17 |
| natorious | not sure if its been reported | 15:17 |
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| natorious | just says sorry couldn't connect to the internet | 15:23 |
| natorious | with encryption disabled, it works though | 15:23 |
| sledges | natorious: is wpa2 with user/pass pair? | 15:24 |
| natorious | sledges: yeah, doesn't even ask for auth | 15:24 |
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| sledges | WPA auto here with passphrase - works | 15:25 |
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| sledges | thanks, noted | 15:25 |
| natorious | np, thats wpa2 enterprise. I'll try when I get home on wpa2 personal | 15:25 |
| sledges | yep, ok | 15:26 |
| olidadude | how long does the installation usually take, I mean the hybris installer? | 15:26 |
| sledges | olidadude: sailfish for android installer .zip ? | 15:26 |
| sledges | ~5-7mins | 15:26 |
| sledges | just patience ;) | 15:27 |
| olidadude | and it already finished :D | 15:27 |
| olidadude | boots up fast :D | 15:27 |
| sledges | natorious: https://together.jolla.com/question/3775/wpa-enterprise-eg-eduroam-support/ | 15:28 |
| sledges | is how it all comes along together nicely ;) | 15:28 |
| * Stskeeps needs to go for a while | 15:28 | |
| sledges | olidadude: it's first boot, takes longer ;) | 15:28 |
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| natorious | sledges: right on, this is using PEAP too | 15:29 |
| fogWraith | wpa2 personal worked fine after a restard of the device, if someone wants to know :P | 15:30 |
| sledges | Stskeeps: o/ | 15:30 |
| jussi | hrm, should I root the device? do I need to? | 15:31 |
| sledges | no need | 15:31 |
| jussi | ok, thanks | 15:31 |
| sledges | np :) | 15:31 |
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| natorious | sledges: should we be submitting issues to tjc? | 15:36 |
| sledges | instructions say here ;) | 15:37 |
| natorious | k, thought so | 15:37 |
| natorious | landscape web browsing? | 15:37 |
| sledges | no sensors | 15:37 |
| sledges | not yet ;) | 15:37 |
| natorious | ah, also noticed that inserting or switching sims didn't seem to register | 15:37 |
| natorious | ie no data | 15:38 |
| sledges | thanks | 15:38 |
| natorious | np | 15:38 |
| flotron | the keyboard is awesome | 15:38 |
| sledges | noted ;) | 15:38 |
| sledges | thanks | 15:38 |
| sledges | :D | 15:38 |
| flotron | the browser is unique!!!!! | 15:38 |
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| flotron | wireless charging working | 15:40 |
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| sledges | very nice \o/ | 15:43 |
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| jussi | right, sailfish install happening now... waiting :D | 15:51 |
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| * Thybo is pissed not to have a nexus 4 right now | 15:52 | |
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| * jussi hugs Thybo | 15:52 | |
| * Thybo thanks jussi (but would rather have his nexus4 :p) | 15:52 | |
| Xray2000 | Hi Guys just install Sailfish on my N4 but i have one problem no sound when i call... Other guys the same problem ? | 15:53 |
| jussi | Thybo: how much money do you have? :P :P | 15:53 |
| Thybo | lol | 15:53 |
| Thybo | Xray2000: did you not read before installing? :) | 15:53 |
| Eztran | Xray2000: you didn't read the email, right? | 15:53 |
| Thybo | there was some text... | 15:53 |
| kkruglov | to xray, yes, there are several issues. read letter ) | 15:53 |
| Thybo | lol | 15:54 |
| Thybo | RTFM :) | 15:54 |
| Thybo | jussi: available for a smartphone purchase sadly 0 :s | 15:54 |
| kkruglov | one question, guys | 15:54 |
| kkruglov | i 100% need to flash full 4.2.2 stock image | 15:54 |
| Xray2000 | yes i have read that ok i'm read it again ... | 15:54 |
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| kkruglov | or i can just flash bootloader of 4.2.2? | 15:55 |
| Stskeeps | kkruglov: modem images | 15:55 |
| Xray2000 | yes indeed sorry guys look that over... | 15:55 |
| Stskeeps | and some other stuff, else wlan doesn't work | 15:55 |
| jussi | and we are done, booting now :D | 15:55 |
| kkruglov | so, modem would be enough? | 15:55 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Congrats on the Nexus 4 first build! I'm still working on getting a Nexus 4 lined up but as soon as I can do that I'll install it and give it a whirl. | 15:55 |
| Stskeeps | dwangoAC: thanks | 15:55 |
| natorious | possible bug? back in browser doesn't reload page from cache | 15:56 |
| Thybo | guys guys let's stop bothering the devs so they can actually work hehe :p | 15:56 |
| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Would you prefer beta commentary here or #jollamobile? | 15:56 |
| jussi | Ahoy! Welcome | 15:56 |
| Stskeeps | dwangoAC: here | 15:56 |
| dwangoAC | You got it. | 15:56 |
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| natorious | didn't seen any tjc posts | 15:56 |
| sledges | natorious: known issue since jolla | 15:57 |
| natorious | k | 15:57 |
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| flotron | root password? | 16:02 |
| Stskeeps | does anybody actually read the e-mails i send.. | 16:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:02 |
| * lbt raises his hand ... | 16:02 | |
| lbt | oh wait ... no. | 16:02 |
| flotron | haha | 16:02 |
| tbr | reading is overrated! | 16:02 |
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| tbr | 140chars is the average attention span nowadays | 16:02 |
| flotron | bla bla... download | 16:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:03 |
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| lbt | "where's the blue text ... ah ... click" | 16:03 |
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| Nightmare__ | ctrl+f "downl" :D | 16:04 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | !rtfm QString | 16:09 |
| Merbot | Sfiet_Konstantin: Error: "rtfm" is not a valid command. | 16:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :( | 16:09 |
| qtassistant | Sfiet_Konstantin: QString Class | QtCore 5.2 - http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qstring.html | 16:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | aah :) | 16:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks for qtassistant | 16:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | !tell Sfiet_Konstantin rtfm QString | 16:09 |
| qtassistant | Sfiet_Konstantin: rtfm QString | 16:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | !tell Sfiet_Konstantin !rtfm QString | 16:10 |
| qtassistant | Sfiet_Konstantin: !rtfm QString | 16:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum ... | 16:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | !rtfm Label | 16:10 |
| Merbot | Sfiet_Konstantin: Error: "rtfm" is not a valid command. | 16:10 |
| qtassistant | Sfiet_Konstantin: QLabel Class | QtWidgets 5.2 - http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qlabel.html | 16:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | conflicts between Merbot and qtassistant though :( | 16:11 |
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| Stskeeps | O_o | 16:12 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | !tell Sfiet_Konstantin [rtfm QString] | 16:12 |
| Merbot | Sfiet_Konstantin: Error: "rtfm" is not a valid command. | 16:12 |
| qtassistant | Sfiet_Konstantin: QString Class | QtCore 5.2 - http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qstring.html | 16:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | aaah | 16:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | works | 16:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sorry Stskeeps | 16:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | spamming | 16:13 |
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| avivbyo | Okay , N4 release is pretty good for first one ! | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | avivbyo: happy you like it | 16:17 |
| netzvieh | Stskeeps: so when does the next one come? :D | 16:19 |
| kimmoli | that was fast | 16:20 |
| stephg | slightly serious but related question, how do you want to do feedback? | 16:20 |
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| stephg | I mean where there are problems with the fully open bits we can feed back that way via github | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | here at first | 16:21 |
| stephg | but tracking things that are silica or jolla specific | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | it's in the mail, too | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:21 |
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| stephg | oh ffs ;) | 16:22 |
| * stephg should read the mail | 16:22 | |
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| tbr | stephg: btw, if you look at the OSS dump you will realize that 98% of that is either on github or on merproject git. that also should give you an idea how and where to contribute | 16:23 |
| * tbr had some very ugly find |grep|grep|wc -l incantation to verify this | 16:24 | |
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| Aliander | Anyone got it up with MultiROM? Getting stuck at Google logo. Suspecting wrong bootloader or kernel not kexec-hardboot patched. | 16:27 |
| netzvieh | Aliander: read the mail :) | 16:27 |
| netzvieh | * Multiboot / multirom is not supported currently | 16:27 |
| sledges | 17:00 < sledges> Umeaboy: dualboot - it needs a study of how multiboot/multirom works and how sfos installs it - anyone's welcome to help even now ;) | 16:28 |
| sledges | yet ;) | 16:28 |
| Aliander | One can try and hope? | 16:28 |
| Aliander | ;) | 16:28 |
| Thybo | one can also fail :P | 16:29 |
| sledges | better erroneously begin, instead of flawless hesitation ;) | 16:29 |
| sledges | (a great German quote btw) | 16:29 |
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| Thybo | anywazzzz | 16:32 |
| Thybo | im off guyzzz | 16:32 |
| Thybo | u best be working on the i9300 ;) | 16:32 |
| netzvieh | sledges: didn't know that one :O | 16:32 |
| Thybo | btw why was sailfish ported to 4g galaxy s3 and not just s3? | 16:32 |
| Thybo | s3 is more popular aint'it? | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | Thybo: it comes down to that we didn't have it | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:32 |
| Thybo | that's pure bad luck maaaaan | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | well | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | it will be trivial to get s3 non-lte going | 16:34 |
| Thybo | and i greatly look forward to that | 16:34 |
| Thybo | i can lend you my s3 for test purposes if your gonna send it back with sailfish on it ^^ | 16:35 |
| raa70 | how about noteII, got one lying around | 16:35 |
| Thybo | anywayss | 16:36 |
| Thybo | see yall :) | 16:36 |
| sledges | netzvieh: after digging, apparently it's Thomas Edison's quote :D http://gutezitate.com/zitat/179669 | 16:37 |
| Thybo | so long for the germans '^^ | 16:38 |
| stephg | so I've been tinkering | 16:39 |
| stephg | and I've noticed that when the alarm is on, and the screen is on, the power button doesn't work | 16:40 |
| sledges | same for jolla ooi? | 16:40 |
| stephg | if the alarm is going, and the screen is off, the power button doesn't work if the screen is off | 16:40 |
| stephg | on the jolla obvs the alarm wakes the screen first | 16:41 |
| * stephg doesn't know, sets alarm on jolla | 16:41 | |
| sledges | from what you said: power button doesn't work when phone's alarming, regardless the screen | 16:41 |
| netzvieh | sledges: http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/dont-believe-everything-you-see-on-the-internet.jpg ;) well maybe it's him, maybe not :D we'll never know | 16:42 |
| stephg | sledges, I believe so | 16:42 |
| sledges | hahah netzvieh | 16:42 |
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| stephg | sledges, you're right about the jolla, when the alarm goes, the power button won't blank the screen | 16:43 |
| sledges | ok | 16:43 |
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| sledges | y u no kil alarmz | 16:43 |
| sledges | :) | 16:43 |
| stephg | that's exactly what everyone in the office said ;) | 16:43 |
| stephg | but yeah, the alarm on the n4 can't wake the screen it seems | 16:44 |
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| sledges | is a feature on jolla ;) | 16:46 |
| * sledges overslept too much thanks to the 'autopilot' function ;) | 16:46 | |
| * sledges of me brainz | 16:46 | |
| sledges | yep, alarms glitches are on the release notes | 16:46 |
| netzvieh | hmm timer freezes the UI somehow | 16:48 |
| netzvieh | and stands at 00:001 :D | 16:48 |
| netzvieh | *00:01 | 16:48 |
| sledges | thanks, noted | 16:48 |
| netzvieh | same with alarm. | 16:49 |
| netzvieh | seems to be a blanco page | 16:50 |
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| sledges | netzvieh: ah | 16:51 |
| sledges | that's the same class as alarms | 16:51 |
| sledges | timer expires and then an alarm should go off | 16:51 |
| netzvieh | and i had to dismiss the timer 3 times | 16:51 |
| netzvieh | it kept popping up again | 16:51 |
| sledges | will add to release notes, that timer doesn't work until alarms are fixed | 16:51 |
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| sledges | netzvieh: did timer start making a sound when expired? | 16:53 |
| sledges | or stayed at 00:01 ? | 16:53 |
| netzvieh | sledges: stayed at 00:01 | 16:53 |
| sledges | my one just started the alarm ringtone fine | 16:53 |
| sledges | probably your ui was active at that time | 16:53 |
| sledges | yet the rootcause remains the same | 16:53 |
| netzvieh | want the journal? | 16:53 |
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| sledges | once you're at it ;) | 16:54 |
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| netzvieh | I'll just throw out the upower lines :D | 16:54 |
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| sledges | yes pls :) | 16:58 |
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| coderus | please help me to remind - how to generate vcard with QContact? | 17:10 |
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| admiral0 | Stskeeps: received the mail. thanks. How many people are in the testing list? | 17:11 |
| dwangoAC | admiral0: I'm curious about that as well | 17:17 |
| dwangoAC | admiral0: Stskeeps said he's sleeping, so you won't get a direct response right away | 17:18 |
| dwangoAC | ...I just made a gender assumption on IRC, bad form on my part | 17:18 |
| Eztran | if you mean the 'he', you at least assumed correctly. | 17:21 |
| dwangoAC | Eztran: Good :) | 17:21 |
| dwangoAC | I try not to assume unless that exact person has stated their gender | 17:21 |
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| dwangoAC | Eztran: I've made the mistake of assuming gender of people in #nethack and been corrected enough times to be gunshy :) | 17:21 |
| Eztran | sure, kinda understandable :) | 17:22 |
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| dwangoAC | There are all kinds of strange unwritten rules on IRC, netiquitte if you like, things like not being required to end sentences with punctuation even though it would look odd in nearly every other context | 17:22 |
| dwangoAC | I suspect in part because the newline is its own punctuation | 17:23 |
| dwangoAC | But I digress | 17:23 |
| admiral0 | dwangoAC: lol | 17:23 |
| dwangoAC | Yeah, I *really* digressed there. :) | 17:23 |
| admiral0 | anyways, I'm on a train going home | 17:23 |
| dwangoAC | (And I just used a . to end a sentence, albeit followed by an emoticon... I should really stop typing now.) | 17:23 |
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| admiral0 | so as soon as I get there, i'll install it | 17:24 |
| dwangoAC | admiral0: Good luck! | 17:24 |
| Eztran | dwangoAC: or stop worrying about how you type, could try that :) | 17:24 |
| dwangoAC | admiral0: I'm still trying to convince my wife to give up her Nexus 4 so I can test on it, but that will require motivating her by finding a Nexus 5. | 17:24 |
| dwangoAC | Anyone have a Nexus 5 they will sell me for Bitcoins? | 17:24 |
| dwangoAC | Eztran: I type far too fast for my own good and can quickly get myself in trouble, and I just ate a donut and the sugar rush is apparently getting to me. | 17:25 |
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| dwangoAC | So far the only option I've found so far is to buy a Gyft card for Amazon (using Bitcoins) and then purchase the phone that way, but there's a huge markup. | 17:25 |
| admiral0 | sigh | 17:26 |
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| admiral0 | NSA hates you | 17:26 |
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| Acce | dwangoAC: you need to sell some random stuff for cash | 17:27 |
| dwangoAC | admiral0: As the President of the North Bay Linux User's Group, I can say that the feeling is mutual. | 17:27 |
| dwangoAC | Acce: I was considering selling a pinball machine, but I don't want to let it go... | 17:27 |
| Acce | then buy whatever you're buying with that cash in a place without surveillance cameras | 17:27 |
| admiral0 | lel, i was president of my lug too for a year | 17:27 |
| hookey | lel lel lel | 17:27 |
| dwangoAC | Acce: Heh | 17:27 |
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| dwangoAC | lel? | 17:28 |
| hookey | lel lel lel | 17:28 |
| dwangoAC | hookey: lel? | 17:28 |
| Acce | mau mau | 17:28 |
| Eztran | channel's gone weird all of a sudden. | 17:28 |
| dwangoAC | Must be a hook | 17:28 |
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| dwangoAC | Eztran: It's probably all my fault. | 17:28 |
| dwangoAC | admiral0: Yeah, I was "voluntold" into the position - I didn't particularly want to take it on, but everyone felt I would be the best person for it and voted me in before I could stop them. :) | 17:29 |
| admiral0 | it's a bot | 17:29 |
| admiral0 | lel | 17:29 |
| admiral0 | no? | 17:29 |
| hookey | lel lel lel | 17:29 |
| dwangoAC | Maybe so | 17:29 |
| dwangoAC | hookey: What else do you respond to? | 17:29 |
| dwangoAC | Sailfish? | 17:29 |
| Eztran | If it's not, they're doing a good job of impersonating one. | 17:29 |
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| dwangoAC | I never, ever type this, but... | 17:29 |
| dwangoAC | lol | 17:29 |
| Eztran | Is there a reverse-Turing test? | 17:29 |
| dwangoAC | ..hmm, no trigger on that one | 17:30 |
| dwangoAC | Eztran: Good question. | 17:30 |
| Eztran | 'determine whether they're a bot or a person pretending to be one. | 17:30 |
| dwangoAC | Eztran: I figured that's where you were going with that question. :) | 17:30 |
| olidadude | hello, i cant login to jolla account on my nexus 4? can anyone help? | 17:31 |
| dwangoAC | olidadude: Did it say that worked in the E-Mail? | 17:31 |
| dwangoAC | olidadude: I need to re-read but I thought I saw something about it not working | 17:31 |
| olidadude | ok, I'll ckeck | 17:32 |
| dwangoAC | olidadude: Found it, it reads: "* Jolla account / Store is removed from the image due to problems with registering with Jolla infrastructure." | 17:32 |
| Eztran | wouldn't it have been best to have checked first? | 17:32 |
| olidadude | sorry guyz | 17:32 |
| dwangoAC | olidadude: It's totally OK, I had to look it up too. :) | 17:33 |
| admiral0 | spank spank olidadude | 17:33 |
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| dwangoAC | Eztran: There were a *lot* of caveats in that E-Mail, I don't blame olidadude for mising one of them. | 17:33 |
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| Eztran | Mmm, sure. It was more the not looking after finding the problem I was commenting on. | 17:34 |
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| Eztran | incidentally, I think the 'list of questions asked which are answered in the email' count is 3 right now, sure it'll be higher by tomorrow :) | 17:35 |
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| admiral0 | make a bot that counts | 17:36 |
| admiral0 | like | 17:36 |
| admiral0 | bot: uselessquestions++ | 17:36 |
| Eztran | Maybe we could repurpose the possible lel-bot? | 17:36 |
| hookey | lel lel lel | 17:36 |
| admiral0 | bot has seen 3 useless questions since 27-03-2014 | 17:36 |
| Eztran | Yeah, I was hoping to catch a person offguard. Definitely a bot. | 17:36 |
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| Stskeeps | admiral0: quite a good interest | 17:37 |
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| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: That wasn't a very long nap | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | well, it wasn't a nap, it was going with wife to baby's swimming practice.. :P | 17:39 |
| dwangoAC | The only thing hookey has said (as far as I have in my log) is the response lel lel lel | 17:39 |
| hookey | lel lel lel | 17:39 |
| dwangoAC | Oh, shut up. :) | 17:39 |
| dwangoAC | (not you, Stskeeps, I was talking to hookey) | 17:39 |
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| dwangoAC | Stskeeps: Fun! Yeah, we did a lot of really early swimming with our first kid as well, less so with our second for some reason though | 17:39 |
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| admiral0_ | sigh | 17:40 |
| Stskeeps | wb admiral0 | 17:40 |
| admiral0_ | the tethering.... | 17:40 |
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| admiral0_ | hey Stskeeps :) | 17:41 |
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| admiral0 | soon(tm) | 17:42 |
| admiral0 | guys tunnels incoming | 17:43 |
| admiral0 | bbl | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | watch out for oncoming bright lights looking like sunshine | 17:43 |
| olidadude | ok, so I installed sailfish on my nex4 and it works great but to install a app I couldnt install it via terninal because i didnt know the devel-su password. so I disabled the devmode to enable it again to set a password that I know and now it sais that dev mode can only be activated if i sign in with my jolla account :) (via the GUI in settings--> system it didnt let me eather install an app) so what can I do? :D | 17:43 |
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| Stskeeps | olidadude: reflash and read the email | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:43 |
| olidadude | Okey :D | 17:44 |
| stephg | beginning to think you need a new instruction mechanism, we all seem to be fail at email ;) | 17:44 |
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| pp_ | hehe, instructions for early adopters are now advertised on facebook :P | 17:44 |
| Eztran | also: 4. | 17:44 |
| SK_Sailfish | irc for sailfishos is fun | 17:44 |
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| SK_Sailfish | pulley menus all around the screen | 17:45 |
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| coderus | wow my jolla just rebooted :D | 17:50 |
| coderus | didnt touched it | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | when did you get it again? | 17:50 |
| leszek | coderus: really rebooted with red light ? Or did just wayland crash (green light blinking) ? Because after 1.0.40 I also head the wayland crash twice already | 17:53 |
| leszek | -e | 17:53 |
| coderus | well | 17:53 |
| coderus | my pc said SDK connection deactivated and i looked at phone | 17:53 |
| coderus | Jolla splashscreen | 17:53 |
| leszek | ok thats a total crash then | 17:53 |
| coderus | i dont think it wayland/lipstick crash | 17:54 |
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| coderus | didnt looked at led, sorry | 17:54 |
| leszek | ssh keeps alive on wayland crash | 17:54 |
| coderus | yeah | 17:54 |
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| leszek | Interesting as I only had those total crashes with upgrading to 1.0.3 and in 1.0.4 I did not experience that | 17:55 |
| olidadude | so, I've read now the email multiple times but i didnt found the Dev Mode password... Am I dumb? | 17:56 |
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| Stskeeps | olidadude: | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | 1. Enable remote connection in Settings->System->Developer mode | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | 2. Set your USB interface on host machine to IP 192.168.2.2 | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | 3. ssh nemo@192.168.2.1 | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | 4. Use the password from developer mode to log in | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | 5. Use the 'devel-su' command with the same password in order to gain root | 17:56 |
| olidadude | but dev mode is already on? | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | tap remote connection? | 17:57 |
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| Stskeeps | might need a 'generate' | 17:58 |
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| Markster | Hi, who should I ask to try Sailfish OS on my Nexus 7 2012 Wi-Fi (grouper)? | 18:00 |
| Markster | (to let me try Sailfish OS) | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | Markster: we're first publishing nexus 4, then later samsung galaxy s iii lte, then a hardware adaptation development kit, where people can build for any device that runs cyanogenmod 10.1 | 18:01 |
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| Stskeeps | so, guys | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | how irritating is the watermark? | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:01 |
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| NoGy | Stskeeps: around a 6 on the 1/10 annoyance scale | 18:02 |
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| Markster | Thank you Stskeeps :) | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | NoGy: excellent | 18:03 |
| olidadude | watermark irritating level 8/10 for me... | 18:03 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: i'll see what i can do about it for next releases | 18:05 |
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| Stskeeps | and ease of installation? | 18:08 |
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| kkruglov | how to take a screenshot? and what can be wrong if wifi doesnt work? | 18:12 |
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| jussi | Stskeeps: yeah, I agree with NoGy, about a 6 or 7 | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | kkruglov: n4 right? | 18:14 |
| kkruglov | yes | 18:14 |
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| Stskeeps | kkruglov: did you flash 4.2.2, then cm10.1, then sailfish? | 18:15 |
| kkruglov | network is working, 2g, but wifi is not. | 18:15 |
| jussi | how do we go about getting more apps? Store isnt there of course, can we manually install? | 18:15 |
| kkruglov | not fully | 18:15 |
| kkruglov | i flash modem of 4.2.2 | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | that's why then | 18:15 |
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| Stskeeps | configuration of wifi and firmware is in that image too | 18:15 |
| kkruglov | ok, sorry | 18:15 |
| kkruglov | watermark is not very annoying | 18:16 |
| kkruglov | depends on wallpaper | 18:16 |
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| kkruglov | ) | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:16 |
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| jussi | Stskeeps: I take that back - normally 6 or 7, if you have a wall of text... bloody annoying | 18:17 |
| natorious | maybe move the watermark to the top or bottom | 18:17 |
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| natorious | so it doesn't affect readability | 18:18 |
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| natorious | or horizontal? | 18:18 |
| natorious | vertical rather | 18:18 |
| kkruglov | is there an ability to take a screenshot? | 18:18 |
| natorious | is there anything specific we should be testing for btw? | 18:18 |
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| jussi | good question. Stskeeps? | 18:19 |
| natorious | would be nice to have sensors for landscape, gsm voice, media playback, camera and store | 18:20 |
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| antoniolatiano | Hi folks | 18:20 |
| antoniolatiano | i just flashed the alpha version of sailfish | 18:21 |
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| antoniolatiano | it's awesome!!!!! | 18:21 |
| kkruglov | yes, it is | 18:21 |
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| kkruglov | ) | 18:21 |
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| antoniolatiano | i tried to call a number | 18:22 |
| natorious | antoniolatiano: howd that work out for you? | 18:23 |
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| Eztran | bet there was no audio. :) | 18:23 |
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| Arkkis | RC's not out right? | 18:28 |
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| natorious | Arkkis: EA1 went out this morning | 18:32 |
| natorious | or afternoon, depending on where you live | 18:32 |
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| Arkkis | oh | 18:33 |
| Arkkis | dang | 18:33 |
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| Arkkis | Got no mail :< | 18:34 |
| Arkkis | Where did it release? | 18:34 |
| kkruglov | really? | 18:34 |
| sledges | Arkkis: you did not provide your email ;) | 18:34 |
| sledges | or it got cut off in irc msg limit | 18:34 |
| sledges | i got all your details, but in email field it stands <FORGOT_TO_WRITE_IN_HIS_EMAIL> :) | 18:35 |
| Arkkis | Oh O.o | 18:35 |
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| Arkkis | oops | 18:35 |
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| Arkkis | I waited all morning : D | 18:36 |
| sledges | Arkkis: got it now | 18:36 |
| sledges | but release is only for n4 for now | 18:36 |
| sledges | next one is for i9305 | 18:36 |
| sledges | and you have i9300 right ? | 18:36 |
| Arkkis | oh :s | 18:36 |
| Arkkis | another dang | 18:36 |
| sledges | :) | 18:36 |
| sledges | you need to wait till community ports to i9300 after we release docs | 18:37 |
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| olidadude | so, i installed it on my nex4. do you guys need to know anything, should I test something, report something or just shut up? | 18:39 |
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| sledges | just enjoy | 18:41 |
| sledges | the experience | 18:41 |
| sledges | and report annoyances | 18:41 |
| sledges | scratch your itch oss principles really | 18:41 |
| kkruglov | sometimes browser displaying old page when i loaded new (title of tab is new but picture of page is still previous site) | 18:42 |
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| kkruglov | that is only thing i notice... which look like bug or smth | 18:43 |
| kkruglov | for 3 hours of usage.. | 18:43 |
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| sledges | thanks, i spotted that on my jolla too | 18:45 |
| sledges | will check the state of the bug | 18:45 |
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| antoniolatiano | I'm using it for about 30 minutes | 18:46 |
| antoniolatiano | sometimes when i pull down the menu, the application stop working | 18:46 |
| sledges | antoniolatiano: which app? | 18:46 |
| sledges | spotted on camera and calendar so far | 18:47 |
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| olidadude | the browser makes it sometimes hard to click on links. when you reload and not zoom then it works again. | 18:51 |
| antoniolatiano | where i have to put my media to be visible from gallery and multimedia? | 18:53 |
| sledges | olidadude: which website? if sfw ;p | 18:53 |
| sledges | i can click on links on non-mobile (zoomable) websites fine | 18:54 |
| sledges | antoniolatiano: anywhere really | 18:54 |
| sledges | best bet - Pictures | 18:54 |
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| olidadude | no, gmail.com when zoomed.... and also on maemo | 18:55 |
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| sledges | olidadude: strange, cannot reproduce | 18:56 |
| sledges | just went to talk.maemo.org | 18:56 |
| sledges | zoomed in quite a bit | 18:56 |
| sledges | clicked on linke '3' (go to 3rd page of thread) - fine | 18:56 |
| olidadude | it is not always the case.. atm it works here too | 18:57 |
| sledges | ic | 18:57 |
| sledges | will keep an eye on, thanks | 18:58 |
| sledges | (also, could be browser issue, hardware independent, so worth searching tjc for such things) | 18:58 |
| sledges | (but report here still ;)) | 18:58 |
| olidadude | now its here again ^^ | 18:58 |
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| sledges | any particular types of links? | 18:59 |
| olidadude | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92160 | 18:59 |
| olidadude | on this page the download link that links to open repository | 18:59 |
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| sledges | olidadude: it's a link which supposed to open in a new tab | 19:00 |
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| sledges | a good measure?) | 19:01 |
| sledges | what do you think | 19:01 |
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| olidadude | o yes | 19:02 |
| sledges | also, can be tab mixup issue | 19:02 |
| sledges | (known) | 19:02 |
| sledges | 20:42 < kkruglov> sometimes browser displaying old page when i loaded new (title of tab is new but picture of page is still previous site) | 19:03 |
| sledges | olidadude: ^ ? | 19:03 |
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| Guest44549 | Oh man, I love IRC. I identified but it's still locking me out of my nick. | 19:11 |
| sledges | maybe someone took over? :) | 19:12 |
| *** Guest44549 is now known as Valter | 19:12 | |
| Valter | Nah, I just had to use "regain" apparently. | 19:12 |
| sledges | nice and easy :)) | 19:12 |
| Valter | So, I got news of this fancy new OS having an early version released for the Nexus 4. | 19:13 |
| Valter | I wasn't signed up for anything but there's links on XDA to download the image. Would this be immoral of me? | 19:13 |
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| sledges | 16:46 < Stskeeps> (fwiw it's better to be registered..) | 19:14 |
| sledges | :) | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | Valter: best to sign up with sledges so you're onboard for next emails | 19:14 |
| Valter | Where do I sign up? | 19:14 |
| sledges | yep, pm me your name and email | 19:14 |
| Valter | Sure thing | 19:14 |
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| sledges | and a bit about yourself so we know you | 19:15 |
| sledges | i.e. devices you got, and experience | 19:15 |
| Valter | I'm lazy and used the freenode web chat. I'm just figuring out how to PM with it. | 19:15 |
| Valter | I'll just msg | 19:15 |
| sledges | yep /msg | 19:15 |
| Nicd- | /msg == pm | 19:16 |
| fzk | sledges: whats status for other devices than nexus? coming later? | 19:16 |
| sledges | fzk: i9305 is coming | 19:16 |
| fzk | ah, sounds promising | 19:17 |
| sledges | was it a promise? | 19:17 |
| sledges | :)) | 19:17 |
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| olidadude | somewhat it was sledges | 19:21 |
| sledges | ;) | 19:22 |
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| * keithzg is hoping that once the general Mer-atop-Cyanogenmod bit is entirely solid, the Nook Colour can be given a new lease on life | 19:25 | |
| Stskeeps | keithzg: i have a nook color too | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | i'm mostly afraid of mmc speed | 19:25 |
| * natorious wipes the dust off his kindle 3G | 19:27 | |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: congratulations to the #sailfishforandroid release! :) | 19:27 |
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| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: must have been lots of work to make it happen :) | 19:27 |
| satmd | :) | 19:27 |
| keithzg | Yeah, fair enough, it's some pretty cheap flash storage in the Nook Colour. Still, it's kindof useless otherwise in this day and age, definitely willing to sacrifice it (if it bricks in the process, well, that's just a hero's death). | 19:30 |
| fzk | sledges: i meant it seems nice | 19:31 |
| sledges | fzk: sorry, bad pun from me (were them ever goods? :D) | 19:31 |
| fzk | ah, irony | 19:31 |
| _r_ | dear sledges | 19:34 |
| _r_ | i love you | 19:35 |
| sledges | i love you too | 19:35 |
| _r_ | when i get out of work I plan on installing jolla on my nexus ;') | 19:35 |
| lbt | keithzg: I too have a nook - and a local build of the kernel and CM for it ... but not spent too much time since pre-xmas ... not sure which xmas that was though,,, | 19:36 |
| sledges | _r_: share some love for the whole team ;) | 19:36 |
| _r_ | insert mass hilight I love you | 19:36 |
| _r_ | /hi i love you all | 19:36 |
| * lbt hugs everyone back :D | 19:37 | |
| _r_ | group houg | 19:37 |
| sledges | <begin_mass_hugging> | 19:37 |
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| * satmd falls over | 19:37 | |
| _r_ | lel | 19:37 |
| sledges | ohnoez we're missing our lel mascot! | 19:38 |
| sledges | hookey ? | 19:38 |
| hookey | Sorry, forgot to disable that script for this channel earlier | 19:38 |
| flotron | Warehouse installed :D | 19:39 |
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| sledges | hookey: re-enable pls :D | 19:42 |
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| hookey | Alright | 19:42 |
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| hookey | Done | 19:42 |
| sledges | lel thanks! | 19:42 |
| hookey | lel lel lel | 19:42 |
| sledges | \yay/ | 19:43 |
| sledges | \lel/ | 19:43 |
| hookey | lel lel lel | 19:43 |
| _r_ | lel | 19:43 |
| hookey | lel lel lel | 19:43 |
| _r_ | ;') | 19:43 |
| * sledges is away for a bit, laters! | 19:43 | |
| hookey | You can also do hue, but don't overuse it or use me to spam | 19:43 |
| _r_ | hue | 19:43 |
| hookey | hue hue hue | 19:43 |
| _r_ | hue lel | 19:43 |
| _r_ | lel hue | 19:43 |
| hookey | hue hue hue | 19:43 |
| hookey | There's a 5-second buffer | 19:43 |
| Valter | What an incredibly useful script xD | 19:45 |
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| Valter | I love it, lel | 19:45 |
| hookey | lel lel lel | 19:45 |
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| Nicd- | stupid script :( | 19:45 |
| hookey | They have colours too, but this channel has +c on | 19:46 |
| Nicd- | thank heavens for that | 19:46 |
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| olidadude | so much lel very hue | 19:55 |
| hookey | hue hue hue | 19:55 |
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| ismaro3 | USB data connection not working on Sailfish EA Release 1 on Mako | 19:56 |
| ismaro3 | I use Linux Mint and it doesn't recognise the phone, and Sailfish says it is in Charge mode | 19:56 |
| ismaro3 | Can't even ssh through USB | 19:57 |
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| olidadude | could install an apk but jolla accounts blocks me from using the app, any way around that? | 20:01 |
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| flotron | I ssh via LAN | 20:07 |
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| ismaro3 | olidadude, android app support is not included on non-jolla devices | 20:08 |
| ismaro3 | it seems that you need an account to download Android compatibility, but even if you create one, you can't download from jolla store | 20:09 |
| olidadude | will it never come? | 20:09 |
| olidadude | :O | 20:09 |
| Morpog_PC | it works fine on my Jolla device ;) | 20:10 |
| hookey | How long until SailfishOS for the N9 is usable? | 20:10 |
| ismaro3 | No, Android compatibility layer is supported only on Jolla devices because of licenses | 20:10 |
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| olidadude | okey, sad. | 20:14 |
| flotron | is it possible to install the Jolla Store? | 20:14 |
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| kkruglov | will it be possible to install jolla store in future? | 20:24 |
| kkruglov | may be it will come as external installer, not with os | 20:25 |
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| Stskeeps | kkruglov: yes, in the future | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | we just had a bit of a messup that made it impossible for first release | 20:37 |
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| olidadude | I cant controll cuteSpotifys volume globally only in the app, is this normal? | 20:37 |
| gabmus | exit | 20:38 |
| gabmus | ops sorry | 20:38 |
| gabmus | bye | 20:38 |
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| avivbyo | Well i've been playing with sailfish for the day and it's amazing and brilliant, but due the fact there is no voice call i must leave back to android simply because thats a phone , lol. love the OS | 20:45 |
| carepack | after few hours - respect. the os makes a lot of fun. nice and modern ui. works pretty well for this early stage. | 20:45 |
| carepack | never went bck to android. a few days without voice calls in can live with | 20:45 |
| carepack | it wil b | 20:46 |
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| flotron | i can live without voice call too | 20:46 |
| carepack | e will be hard for android ubuntu etc | 20:46 |
| carepack | flotron: hands up | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | voice call will come pretty soon to be honest | 20:46 |
| flotron | yeah! | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | we need to sort out the proximity sensor a bit ; and fix a permissions issue | 20:46 |
| Elleo | carepack: yeah, the volume can't be controlled properly until this is fixed: https://together.jolla.com/question/421/qaudiooutput-isnt-integrated-with-system-volume-and-libresource-like-qmediaplayer/ | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | and that's it | 20:47 |
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| carepack | Elleo: ?. Had i say something? | 20:47 |
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| Stskeeps | he probably meant olidadude :) | 20:48 |
| Elleo | carepack: sorry, yeah meant olidadude | 20:48 |
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| carepack | ;) | 20:48 |
| Elleo | olidadude: ^ | 20:48 |
| carepack | no prob | 20:48 |
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| avivbyo | I really hate android UI after using sailfish | 20:51 |
| carepack | someone able to add a server in okeanos irc client? | 20:51 |
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| cxl000 | sledges, multirom extracts boot, root etc from the android zip or a mrom file, there is a config file that specifies the locations and boot args, the kernel is kexec'd, an initrd scans /proc/cmdline and sets root etc | 20:52 |
| raa70 | http://www.pidjin.net/2014/03/27/early-adopters/ | 20:53 |
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| cxl000 | sledges, there is a tool at https://github.com/Tasssadar/plasma_multirom_packer.git to help package mrom | 20:54 |
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| Stskeeps | avivbyo: just imagine how crazy you would if we had implemented double tap to wake up.. | 20:55 |
| avivbyo | Stskeeps: it's kernel related right? | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | well | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | yes and no | 20:56 |
| avivbyo | Software + Kernel? | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | touchscreen firmware but you can approximate it at a bit of power loss | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | with kernel | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | or software | 20:56 |
| avivbyo | Cool | 20:57 |
| Stskeeps | flotron: congrats on winning the bet on how quickly somebody installed warehouse.. | 20:58 |
| avivbyo | BTW i want to contribute more, like help fixing things , got any hints? | 20:58 |
| Stskeeps | avivbyo: https://github.com/mer-hybris is basics atm | 20:58 |
| carepack | stskeeps: why was an bet about it | 20:59 |
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| Stskeeps | carepack: we have a lot of beer bets in jolla :) | 20:59 |
| Stskeeps | and some go on what people will do with certain things | 20:59 |
| avivbyo | aaand will jolla app store become available at some builds? | 21:00 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 21:00 |
| carepack | lol. it is as expected. what was the tip of flotron? | 21:00 |
| olidadude | ok, thanks Elleo | 21:00 |
| Stskeeps | avivbyo: it would be installed on first release if we didn't discover a major flaw in way we handled different devices.. | 21:01 |
| Stskeeps | so, it was release, or store.. | 21:01 |
| avivbyo | oh | 21:01 |
| Stskeeps | avivbyo: besides voice calls, what's missing in order to make it your daily device, in your opinion? | 21:04 |
| avivbyo | GPS > NFC > BT > CAMERA | 21:05 |
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| avivbyo | GPS is the first thing i need | 21:05 |
| kkruglov | camera at first, for photos as minimum. | 21:05 |
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| kkruglov | and android apps support, can't live without onenote ;/ | 21:05 |
| Darakian | Hi all, thanks for the rom. I love it :D | 21:06 |
| Stskeeps | why NFC, ooi? | 21:06 |
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| avivbyo | Stskeeps: NFC tags are helping me actually everty where | 21:13 |
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| avivbyo | every* | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | o | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | k | 21:13 |
| avivbyo | and im planning to create an NFC based door lock | 21:14 |
| avivbyo | a NFC* | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | it's libnfc-nxp in n4 right? | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | 1879 carsten 20 0 5412036 3.357g 21596 S 0.7 43.6 949:09.80 cinnamon | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | what the f***k | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | no wonder my system has been trashing like hell | 21:16 |
| tigeli | :D | 21:16 |
| tigeli | moar ram | 21:16 |
| avivbyo | lol | 21:16 |
| tigeli | pgrep chrom|xargs ps -o rss --pid|ruby -nae 'k||=0;puts k+=$_.to_i/1024/1024.0'|tail -n1 -> 4.40234375 (I like these light browsers) | 21:17 |
| avivbyo | Reminds me i need to get a new PC | 21:17 |
| flotron | Installing and running a lot of apps in background and no problem at the moment | 21:17 |
| Stskeeps | i just want sailfishos for desktop | 21:18 |
| avivbyo | As a main OS? | 21:18 |
| avivbyo | not virtual box? | 21:18 |
| flotron | the only thing annoying is the left swipe too long, not short as n9 | 21:19 |
| Stskeeps | avivbyo: yeah | 21:19 |
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| avivbyo | Would love to see it running | 21:20 |
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| avivbyo | Im eager to see it running on a bigger tablets like 10" and even bigger... | 21:21 |
| Stskeeps | i wish i had a exodesk with sailfishos | 21:22 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:22 |
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| avivbyo | Im feeling so bad for moving back to android :( | 21:24 |
| Stskeeps | avivbyo: i don't have any expectations of people using this as a daily device until basic usecases are met, fwiw | 21:25 |
| Stskeeps | if there's the slightest draw to try out again when there's an updated image, that's good enough for me | 21:25 |
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| SamZaNemesis | Ahoy | 21:26 |
| Stskeeps | ahoy ahoy | 21:26 |
| * Stskeeps opens a cold beer to celebrate a good release today | 21:28 | |
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| artemma | Stskeeps and all others: Congrats! | 21:29 |
| kengu | \o/ | 21:29 |
| * artemma is trying to open log file in the browser via Qt.openUrlExternally("file:///home/nemo/.cache/harbour-log4qtdemo/harbour-log4qtdemo.log") and gets xdg-open: no method available for opening 'file:///home/nemo/.cache/harbour-log4qtdemo/harbour-log4qtdemo.log' | 21:34 | |
| artemma | why? | 21:34 |
| artemma | can't browser open any local link? | 21:34 |
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| artemma | that's on device | 21:34 |
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| flotron | Congrats! | 21:35 |
| * artemma needs an easy way to show log file to user's eyes, no good in-app UI is needed. Main point is to show that log file indeed exists and looks sort of proper | 21:35 | |
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| * artemma has his device screen flashing (like turning on and then on) every several seconds. It happens second time already. After 1.0.4.20 update | 21:43 | |
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| Stskeeps | artemma: yeah, reboot, a silly wakelock issue | 21:46 |
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| Stskeeps | not a hw problem | 21:46 |
| artemma | Stskeeps: thx | 21:46 |
| ejjoman | good evening | 21:46 |
| artemma | in general after 1.0.4.20 device feels quite faster. Except if I launch some 5-10 apps | 21:46 |
| artemma | then UI tends to shutter still | 21:46 |
| artemma | but less, then it used to | 21:47 |
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| artemma | hmm, /usr/bin/sailfish-browser file:///home/nemo/.cache/harbour-log4qtdemo/harbour-log4qtdemo.log works just fine in command line, but of course Qt.openUrlExternally can't open the command line | 21:48 |
| artemma | r-r-r, why can't it open a file URL, that browser opens without issues? | 21:48 |
| artemma | it looks like it just calls xdg-open and xdg-open simply fails if it can't find an app for .log even if argument is a URL | 21:49 |
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| artemma | okay, I give up. Will have to call C++ for opening this url | 21:51 |
| Turski | artemma: why do you think it would open a .log file with browser? | 21:53 |
| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.2-6 https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu | 21:53 |
| artemma | Turski: it's the other way around. I want to open it in the browser, so thinking if some URL could force Qt think it's html | 21:54 |
| Nightmare__ | coderus, did you even eat today or just coding? :D | 21:54 |
| artemma | or something that would be opened in browser exactly | 21:54 |
| artemma | Qt.openUrlExternally sounds to me like it should follow the Browser logic. I.e. open a special app if it exists, otherwise in a browser | 21:55 |
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| Turski | artemma: url doesn't mean that it should be opened in web browser | 21:55 |
| artemma | docs say otherwise though | 21:55 |
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| Turski | oh... | 21:56 |
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| artemma | yeah, I can see it and it's sad [to me] | 21:56 |
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| artemma | if I could set baseUrl somehow.. | 21:56 |
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| CorvusCorax | Hello guys | 22:09 |
| Stskeeps | hewwo | 22:10 |
| CorvusCorax | What does it mean to be an "Early Adopter" of Sailfish OS? I saw that in the Nexus 4 article (I'm just about to install it on my N4). | 22:10 |
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| Stskeeps | CorvusCorax: well, until somebody got the clever idea to leak an entire mail i sent, we signed people up to be early adopters | 22:11 |
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| Stskeeps | ie, that they got info/mail/images when things got published and the chance to work with early day software :) | 22:11 |
| CorvusCorax | That is cool :) | 22:11 |
| CorvusCorax | How can I sign up for "Early Adoption"? :) | 22:12 |
| ottulo | Stskeeps: well, the email does say "whenever you do screenshots, videos, forum and blog posts (and we're happy if you do!)..." | 22:14 |
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| Stskeeps | sure | 22:15 |
| Stskeeps | CorvusCorax: send a message to sledges with your name/email/why/devices | 22:16 |
| CorvusCorax | Ok, sts. Thanks :) | 22:16 |
| Stskeeps | ottulo: in practice i'm kinda joking, if people are excited enough about something to share it, whom am i to say it's a bad thing? | 22:17 |
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| sledges | Aliander: cxl000's answer was for you re multirom ;) but i noted too somewhere down todo list :) thanks cxl000 ! | 22:22 |
| ejjoman | coderus: what does "No cell routes for %1 caused by your operator" mean? I need more context to translate it properly :) | 22:23 |
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| Aliander | Sledges: Yeah, read it. But have to get more info about MultiROM itself - won't happen before weekend | 22:29 |
| Aliander | cxl000: Thx for the Infos | 22:29 |
| Aliander | :) | 22:30 |
| sledges | grt | 22:30 |
| sledges | :) | 22:30 |
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| cxl000 | Aliander, There are many easy to follow install guides. It basically a modified twrp. I've tweaked to mrom builder script to also support directories produced with mic create fs | 22:38 |
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| NaEaP | Having absolutely no knowledge of MultiROM's internas. Could you point me to some information - else I'd start code | 22:40 |
| NaEaP | Args... Reading Code ;) | 22:40 |
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| NaEaP | (butterfingers on mobile) | 22:41 |
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| sledges | cxl000: could you blog/wiki about it maybe? | 22:41 |
| sledges | would be awesome | 22:41 |
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| Aliander | cxl000 : could you point me to some wiki or something for a start? | 22:43 |
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| Aliander | Seems to be a good start: https://github.com/Tasssadar/multirom/wiki/Add-support-for-new-ROM-type ;) | 22:52 |
| Aliander | Damnit, have to leave this until friday night or saturday... Bye everyone | 22:54 |
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| stephg_j | brrr is cold here | 23:08 |
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| Hitorijanae | On the nexus 4, the terminal flashes white when you press backspace and there is nothing there. | 23:12 |
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| sledges | Hitorijanae: that's what backspace is for | 23:13 |
| sledges | and flashes are the good old terminal 'bell' equivalent | 23:13 |
| sledges | (will flash with left/right arrow keys too) | 23:14 |
| Hitorijanae | I see, not used to seeing that on my terminals. | 23:14 |
| sledges | Hitorijanae: im sure your terminals make a sound instead ;) | 23:14 |
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| Hitorijanae | Typically, yes. | 23:15 |
| sledges | ha i just got it working | 23:15 |
| sledges | by unmuting the "Beep" channel in `alsamixer` :D | 23:16 |
| sledges | (and typing `xset b on` in terminal if needed) | 23:16 |
| Hitorijanae | I used to hate having to use alsamixer on arch. | 23:17 |
| sledges | arch here too :) | 23:17 |
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| sledges | now you got pulseaudio on nexus4 ;P | 23:17 |
| Hitorijanae | It's weird, because I walk around with two usbs, one arch, the other mint | 23:18 |
| sledges | i like pulseaudio and systemd, but i heard one stops liking those when looked into the src code ;) | 23:18 |
| Hitorijanae | Lol | 23:18 |
| Hitorijanae | Honestly, it's nice to get away from android for a change. | 23:18 |
| Hitorijanae | To be honest, most of the nexus 4 ROMS start to become the same over time. | 23:18 |
| sledges | 'nuf said ;) | 23:19 |
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| Hitorijanae | I tried to port Sailfish once, when I was first getting started. | 23:20 |
| Hitorijanae | And I didn't even understand what git was, and I refused to use any guides. | 23:20 |
| jtjj222 | (Noob question) I'm trying to install sailfish ea using multiboot on n4 (I know it isn't supported). It works with trinity kernel on cm 10.1 (which has kexec hardboot), but the multiboot screen doesn't come up, even after I inject it. Any ideas? | 23:21 |
| sledges | jtjj222: other than reading few lines up on this channel, i can't shed you more ideas atm | 23:22 |
| sledges | jtjj222: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/latest.log.html | 23:22 |
| sledges | just an hour before you joined ;) | 23:23 |
| sledges | Hitorijanae: if there's a will there's a way it seems ;) and now you got awarded, and it's just the beginning | 23:23 |
| jtjj222 | k, thanks. I'll try it as guest with trinity to see if that was causing the hanging. | 23:24 |
| Hitorijanae | Yep! Bout to get fun. I think sailfish is going to be the new android. | 23:24 |
| sledges | fingers cross(compil)ed - world domination ;) (if you aim lower, you can get only below that ;)) | 23:25 |
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| jtjj222 | No, no. We don't need a new android. I, for one, am tired of google's anticompetitive scare tactics. It's going to be better than android :P | 23:26 |
| Hitorijanae | That's true. | 23:26 |
| Hitorijanae | Google has really changed over the years. | 23:26 |
| Hitorijanae | They used to be the anti-company. | 23:26 |
| Hitorijanae | They used to honor their motto, | 23:26 |
| Hitorijanae | "Don't be evil." | 23:27 |
| jtjj222 | I'm reading 1984. So similar. | 23:27 |
| Hitorijanae | Now they're replacing open source versions of apps that used to be updated with android versions with they're closed source equivalents. | 23:28 |
| Hitorijanae | Look at the AOSP music app, it's not even Holo yet. | 23:28 |
| jtjj222 | closed source equivlents that funnel your personal data to google... | 23:28 |
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| Hitorijanae | Exactly, and that require money for their service. | 23:30 |
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| Hitorijanae | Google needs a good blow to their capital to remind them of what they used to be. | 23:31 |
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| Hitorijanae | I'll be back | 23:40 |
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| jtjj222 | Is there an ea of the sailfish launcher for android? | 23:50 |
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| jtjj222 | How does the launcher take screenshots or recent apps? | 23:57 |
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