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cxl000 | jtjj222, I recommend using the multirom kernel to boot and not share it to start. That way you will get the menu and when you select which rom its kernel will be kexec'd | 00:13 |
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olafh | cx1000, but it does not go beyond the Google screen for me that way | 00:18 |
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olafh | cxl000, it does not go beyond the Google screen for me that way | 00:24 |
olafh | Wow, after I did swap my ROMs, eg. making Sailfish OS the primary ROM, I seem to be able to boot it, at least I do get the inital Sailsfish welcome screen now.. | 00:29 |
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cxl000 | olafh, Is you multiboot failing or is it failing when launching the sailfish rom? | 00:30 |
olafh | it was failing when launching sailfish os, when sailfish os was non-primary | 00:30 |
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cxl000 | olafh, from the hanging google screen reboot to recovery and adb pull /proc/last_kmsg if the kernel had booted that should give some idea how far it got. | 00:39 |
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olafh | cxl000, I can try that later.. am happy now that I can explore sailfish for the 1st time ;-) I would need to swap ROMs back again to be able to test that | 00:50 |
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kinezo | who | 04:13 |
kinezo | err .. hello | 04:14 |
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pratik | hello all.. | 04:53 |
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pratik | sailfish is running pretty smooth on my nexus 4 and i love it.. | 04:55 |
lpotter | good to hear | 04:59 |
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aironoeus | So if they get the other items working you will stay with it and keep flashing nightlies? | 05:03 |
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pratik | yeah definitely i love it and i would love to test each and every build of it... | 05:11 |
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pratik | The only thing which is bugging me right now it that i'm trying to install android support from the store but it keeps waiting and never install.. Is that a bug? | 05:13 |
* tbr guesses, that this is not supported right now | 05:13 | |
kengu | I remember chats from yesterday stating it is not supported | 05:16 |
pratik | yeah! i guess its not supported because it wont install any app from the store.. | 05:18 |
pratik | Although .apk files does install but yet they need android support to work.. | 05:19 |
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tbr | if only people would read their emails: | 05:29 |
tbr | * The image SW is not currently upgradeable, nor is any typically licensed multimedia codecs (MP3, etc), HERE maps, Android application compatibility layer, or word prediction for virtual keyboard preinstalled. | 05:29 |
tbr | and yeah, not preinstalled is a nice wording for "probably won't work" | 05:32 |
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coderus | morning :P | 05:56 |
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Stskeeps | good morning | 06:00 |
Stskeeps | also, how did people get store working.. | 06:00 |
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tortoisedoc | ahoi sailors! | 06:06 |
Stskeeps | ahoi hoi | 06:06 |
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squidd | rum for everyone! | 06:16 |
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fogWraith | now!? | 06:16 |
squidd | :o | 06:16 |
squidd | why not? | 06:16 |
fogWraith | but i just got to work :( | 06:16 |
squidd | its friday | 06:16 |
fogWraith | a strong argument, though | 06:17 |
fogWraith | its friday :P | 06:17 |
squidd | yeah :) | 06:17 |
fogWraith | well thank god i only work 10 hours today then :P | 06:19 |
coderus | ejjoman: No cell routes for (making call/sending sms) caused by your operator. ... | 06:19 |
squidd | .... | 06:19 |
squidd | 10 hours is too much | 06:20 |
coderus | ejjoman: aeguments are next to this item | 06:20 |
fogWraith | 10 hours is kinda ... not too much really | 06:20 |
fogWraith | its when it hits 12-16 hour shifts it can get tiresome after a week or two | 06:20 |
jussi | morning all | 06:20 |
squidd | thinking of "working" 6 hours today | 06:20 |
jussi | squidd: Ill take some of that rum | 06:20 |
fogWraith | haha | 06:20 |
fogWraith | morning jussi | 06:20 |
ejjoman | coderus: i am unsure what 'cell routes' could be in german | 06:21 |
jussi | its 8:20 am here, and rum sounds great :D | 06:21 |
squidd | and from that ive already spent 3 by staring at irc | 06:21 |
jussi | morning fogWraith | 06:21 |
coderus | ejjoman: that means "whatsapp can't call you/send you sms" | 06:21 |
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coderus | ejjoman: no cell routes from whatsapp call center to your country operator | 06:21 |
jussi | so, how are people getting new apps onto their N4's? | 06:21 |
fogWraith | meh, i got up at 4am, questioned everything | 06:21 |
fogWraith | until coffee, of course | 06:22 |
Stskeeps | mmm coffee | 06:22 |
jussi | oh coffee, brilliant idea | 06:22 |
* jussi leaves the rum and goes to find coffee | 06:22 | |
fogWraith | pro-tip, if you want a slave at minimum wage that will work till he wears out, get a swede :P | 06:22 |
jussi | hrm, maybe coffee+rum... | 06:22 |
squidd | a swede.... not too sure aboutthat... i hear they bit lazy | 06:23 |
* jussi inserts finnish jokes about swedes at this point... | 06:23 | |
jussi | :P | 06:23 |
ejjoman | coderus: okay, i think i got it :) will translate it later | 06:23 |
* fogWraith retorts with swedish jokes about finns at some point | 06:23 | |
fogWraith | :P | 06:23 |
tortoisedoc | 15 man and a dead man's chest - howhowhow! | 06:24 |
fogWraith | why is the man dead and why does he have a chest, to begin with? :P | 06:24 |
tortoisedoc | jolla : when will we get sailfish code? | 06:25 |
tortoisedoc | fogWraith : that's the point of the song , the 15 man are trying to figure it out with rum :P | 06:25 |
Stskeeps | hm> | 06:25 |
Stskeeps | ? | 06:25 |
fogWraith | haha | 06:25 |
jussi | fogWraith: most people have chests, even dead ones | 06:25 |
jussi | :P | 06:25 |
tortoisedoc | Stskeeps: sailfish/silica/qmlplugins | 06:25 |
fogWraith | meh :P | 06:26 |
coderus | ejjoman: sure. current release is stable enough to wait a week for new one | 06:26 |
squidd | jussi: unless they died cos of alien thingy coming out of their chest! | 06:26 |
squidd | then they dont have chest anymore! | 06:26 |
Stskeeps | tortoisedoc: part of it is, the qml part, rest isn't atm | 06:26 |
jussi | squidd: entirely possible | 06:26 |
Stskeeps | tortoisedoc: sailfish browser is oss, virtual keyboard layouts.. | 06:26 |
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tortoisedoc | Stskeeps : im just nagging cause the parts that interest me arent :P | 06:27 |
tortoisedoc | otherwise it's pretty awesome that it is so open | 06:27 |
coderus | tortoisedoc wants lipstick :) | 06:27 |
squidd | tortoisedoc: nagging isnt very nice :O | 06:27 |
tortoisedoc | squidd : tell that to my wife (with all the respect to the women) :P | 06:28 |
squidd | tortoisedoc: you should know better then not to nag! :D | 06:28 |
tortoisedoc | :D | 06:28 |
jussi | hehe | 06:29 |
jussi | well played squidd | 06:29 |
squidd | its the rum speaking :D | 06:29 |
tortoisedoc | :D | 06:29 |
squidd | we wait for a bit and it will start looking for a fight | 06:29 |
ejjoman | coderus: okay, that should be enough time :P | 06:29 |
tortoisedoc | squidd : it? | 06:30 |
squidd | tortoisedoc: rum | 06:30 |
tortoisedoc | the rum? | 06:30 |
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fogWraith | why is the rum gone? | 06:30 |
tortoisedoc | cause squidd drank it :P | 06:30 |
fogWraith | figures :( | 06:30 |
squidd | not all of it! | 06:30 |
squidd | jussi had some too with coffee | 06:30 |
jussi | twas good | 06:30 |
jussi | :P | 06:31 |
* fogWraith shakes fist | 06:31 | |
virtuald | jussi björling | 06:31 |
fogWraith | now i have to visit the systembolag after work... or during lunch :P | 06:31 |
jussi | fogWraith: I have some port if you like :P | 06:31 |
fogWraith | come on over, then ;) | 06:31 |
jussi | virtuald: huh? | 06:31 |
virtuald | nah, just an association | 06:31 |
jussi | oh | 06:32 |
virtuald | the only jussi i know of | 06:32 |
squidd | swedish tenor! | 06:32 |
jussi | virtuald: obviously doesnt know many finns | 06:32 |
virtuald | true | 06:34 |
squidd | jussi: well, I cant remember knowing anyone named jussi and I know many finns | 06:34 |
jussi | squidd: its like almost the most popular name here.... | 06:35 |
squidd | it is? :D | 06:35 |
jussi | thing is, many people get called Jussi who are really some other longer name... | 06:36 |
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squidd | yeah, that I know | 06:36 |
squidd | what I dont understand is that someone named juha is called jussi | 06:37 |
jussi | squidd: juha -> juhannus ->jussi | 06:37 |
squidd | yeah, guess so | 06:38 |
jussi | me, Im just a random outsider that came and stole a finnish name | 06:38 |
jussi | Guess living here for almost 10 years does that... :P | 06:38 |
squidd | scary | 06:38 |
fogWraith | steal ALL the names! | 06:39 |
squidd | dont steal mine | 06:39 |
jussi | fogWraith: shhh swedish person :P | 06:39 |
fogWraith | meh :( | 06:39 |
fogWraith | at least you're forced to take a course of our fine language during school | 06:39 |
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squidd | yeah caused me to dislike swedes even more :P | 06:41 |
fogWraith | awww ;) | 06:41 |
jussi | hehe | 06:41 |
squidd | wasnt too good at sweden in school, think i ended getting 5 from it | 06:41 |
fogWraith | oh, those weird grades... you must be old? ;) | 06:42 |
squidd | oh nope | 06:42 |
fogWraith | i think we had a similar grading system in the 40's? :o | 06:42 |
fogWraith | Now everything is getting americanized | 06:43 |
* jussi is now confused about squidd | 06:43 | |
jussi | :D | 06:43 |
squidd | how so? | 06:43 |
jussi | I have been squidded! | 06:43 |
squidd | whats confusing your tiny mind | 06:43 |
jussi | squidd: in whioch land you were edumacated? | 06:44 |
squidd | finland | 06:44 |
fogWraith | we cant all be winners ;) | 06:45 |
squidd | lol | 06:45 |
jussi | fogWraith: yeah, we feel for you :P | 06:47 |
jussi | fogWraith: unfortunately you were not educted in this great land :D :D | 06:47 |
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fogWraith | meh :P | 06:47 |
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jussi | squidd: you were educated in Finland, and yet you know nobody of the name Jussi...? | 06:48 |
coderus | zchydem_: how is your daughter's health? | 06:49 |
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fogWraith | Quest for the Village without a Jussi! | 06:49 |
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squidd | jussi: no, no one | 06:50 |
squidd | no one with actual name jussi | 06:51 |
jussi | squidd: well now you do... me. | 06:51 |
squidd | i know few juha | 06:51 |
jussi | squidd: now think about this... how many finns do you know with a name startign with J... | 06:52 |
Thybo | lol | 06:52 |
Thybo | joakim | 06:52 |
fogWraith | Oh! Oh! i know ONE Juhani! | 06:52 |
* fogWraith feels so proud | 06:52 | |
squidd | i know quite few | 06:52 |
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fogWraith | i also think that the finnish national anthem should be switched out for pomppufiilis by that munamies thingamajig | 06:54 |
squidd | lol | 06:54 |
Thybo | moi moi y'all | 06:55 |
squidd | moi | 06:55 |
fogWraith | its a happy little tune | 06:55 |
coderus | thp: QClipboard->mimeData() not working at all. | 06:55 |
coderus | thp: check please https://github.com/nemomobile/fingerterm/pull/31/files for proper copy/paster fix | 06:56 |
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fk_lx | coderus: hehe that's what I was also missing in fingerterm - copy/paste from other places | 06:58 |
fk_lx | I guess it's still not possible to copy/paste from browser | 06:59 |
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coderus | i have experience with mozembed and can add copy/paste to browser, but need to finish mitakuuluu first :) | 07:03 |
fk_lx | coderus: would be great :-) | 07:03 |
squidd | coderus: you will never finish mitäkuuluu | 07:04 |
Thybo | whats mitakuuluu? | 07:05 |
squidd | you must keep developing it | 07:05 |
squidd | for lomg time | 07:05 |
Nicd- | Thybo: it's a native whatsapp client | 07:06 |
Thybo | ahyaaaaa ok | 07:07 |
Thybo | hehe | 07:07 |
Nicd- | coderus: I for one want to thank you so much for all the hard work you've done with mitakuuluu :) | 07:07 |
Thybo | thank god he didn't create whatsap | 07:07 |
Thybo | imagine the thing | 07:07 |
Thybo | ud be sayin | 07:07 |
Thybo | ill mitakuuluu u | 07:07 |
Thybo | instead of | 07:07 |
Thybo | ill whatsapp u | 07:07 |
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Nicd- | I like mitäkuuluu, but maybe because I'm Finnish :P | 07:08 |
Nicd- | coderus: I installed 0.2-6 to replace 0.2-2 and now I have to reregister | 07:10 |
Nicd- | but it worked fine and now I'm back in | 07:11 |
coderus | at least there are not much missed functions left | 07:13 |
Nicd- | I lost all of my conversation history though | 07:13 |
coderus | i'll push all sources to opensource after implementing all functions | 07:13 |
coderus | and can go to new project then :) | 07:13 |
Nicd- | nice :) | 07:13 |
coderus | Nicd-: thats sad, but its mandatory database drop | 07:15 |
coderus | major changes, i can't fix all regressions on the fly | 07:15 |
Nicd- | ok, I understsand | 07:15 |
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coderus | but in v0.2-6 you can use old saved database, it will fix database if can, or drop all tables if cant :D | 07:17 |
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Nicd- | how can I do that? | 07:17 |
coderus | if you have saved whastapp.db you need to shutdown and replace file | 07:18 |
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Nicd- | ok, maybe I'll just start from scratch, I didn't really have anything important there anyway so no harm done :) | 07:18 |
coderus | okay | 07:19 |
coderus | i should do it in early versions, but forget :D | 07:19 |
* coderus means database tables upgrade | 07:19 | |
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thp | coderus: commented | 08:04 |
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coderus | thp: updated | 08:09 |
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olidadude | good morning guys :D | 08:10 |
olidadude | hue? | 08:13 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | morning guys | 08:16 |
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thp | coderus: thx, will do a test build to see if copy'n'paste works. looks good now, code-wise | 08:19 |
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ouafnico | Hello | 09:07 |
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ouafnico | I'm searching how to join Early Sailfish OS Adopters ? | 09:07 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | ping sledges | 09:07 |
tbr | ouafnico: message sledges | 09:07 |
tbr | give him your email address and info which device you have and how you can help | 09:08 |
ouafnico | okay thanks :) | 09:08 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | morning faenil_ | 09:09 |
faenil_ | Sfiet_Konstantin, o/ how you doing mate :) | 09:10 |
ouafnico | do you knwo how to mail him ? | 09:10 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil_: courses | 09:10 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | but easy ones | 09:10 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | so rather cool : | 09:10 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 09:10 |
faenil_ | Sfiet_Konstantin, :) you finish in April right? | 09:13 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil_: yep | 09:14 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | soon | 09:14 |
faenil_ | Sfiet_Konstantin, cool stuff, no thesis eh :D | 09:14 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | yep | 09:15 |
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vans01 | HI. I'm glad to be able to use Sailfish on my Nexus 4 and to test and report possible bugs... | 09:27 |
vans01 | So... | 09:27 |
ouafnico | a lot of people are :) | 09:27 |
ouafnico | ask Sledges | 09:27 |
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vans01 | Btw. The cell netwrok name is visible, I see some WiFi networks too... But, can't connect to the internet, neither through mobile network, nor via wifi. | 09:28 |
vans01 | Does anybody know, could it be due to fact, I've wiped prevoius data, or smth else? | 09:29 |
vans01 | *I've _not_ wiped | 09:29 |
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sledges | vans01: WPA2 Enterprise WLAN (user/pass pair) is not supported | 09:30 |
sledges | do you have any open/WPApersonal APs? | 09:31 |
vans01 | sledges, hm... But what about wpa personal? | 09:31 |
vans01 | I do. | 09:31 |
sledges | those should work | 09:31 |
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sledges | what happens when you click on an IP? | 09:31 |
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sledges | *AP | 09:32 |
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vans01 | sledges, when I tap AP there is a message: "Connection error" or smth. like it. I can just have look for exact message. | 09:33 |
sledges | vans01: it should ask you for password | 09:33 |
sledges | are you doing it via Settings->System->WLAN->(pulley)->Connect to Internet ? | 09:33 |
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vans01 | sledges, it should, but doesn't. | 09:34 |
vans01 | sledges, yep, right hat way. | 09:34 |
Yaniel | is this the same bug there was with the first version that if you typo the password once it will not ask again? | 09:34 |
vans01 | *that | 09:34 |
sledges | Yaniel: nexus4 is running 1.0.4.20 | 09:34 |
vans01 | sledges, btw, should I do some wipe from recovery? | 09:34 |
sledges | vans01: you can, and then reinstall sailfish again | 09:35 |
sledges | but that problem should not give you WLAN at all | 09:35 |
vans01 | I mean, I've had Cyanogen installed for some time before flashing Sailfish | 09:35 |
vans01 | sledges, ok, I'll try. | 09:35 |
sledges | vans01: are there any APs in the memorised list? | 09:35 |
sledges | vans01: cm 10.1.3 ? | 09:36 |
vans01 | sledges, may be, there is smth. with wpa_supplicant. May be I have saved networks from previous installations. | 09:36 |
vans01 | Yep, there are some | 09:36 |
sledges | forget them ;) | 09:36 |
vans01 | :D | 09:36 |
vans01 | sledges, may be I could just rm wpa_supplicant.conf? But... Do i have terminal to do it? O_o | 09:38 |
sledges | vans01: long tap on AP | 09:38 |
sledges | and choose Forget | 09:38 |
vans01 | Oh... Just that easy ^_^ | 09:38 |
sledges | i wasn't joking you see ;) | 09:39 |
vans01 | yep... | 09:39 |
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vans01 | Oops, long tap does nothing... Seems the network isn't saved one... Ok, I'll just wipe, no reason to not to do it.;) | 09:41 |
sledges | vans01: in the bulleted list of APs | 09:42 |
sledges | settings->system-wlan | 09:42 |
sledges | > | 09:42 |
Mnsu | is the n4 sailfish ready for "daily" use, or missing some very obvious stuff? don't have the device, just curious | 09:44 |
vans01 | Mnsu, there is image http://www.thejollablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Adptations-for-android.png | 09:45 |
vans01 | According to it there are some parts missing for daily use. | 09:45 |
sledges | Mnsu: vans01: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 09:46 |
NoGy | you are missing the wireless charging column ;) | 09:47 |
sledges | NoGy: good point ;) and it just works :D | 09:47 |
NoGy | exactly | 09:47 |
* sledges remembers Nokia N9 FM radio made possible entirely by the community :)) | 09:48 | |
NoGy | one of the few times where it really is not a bug, but a feature | 09:48 |
Mnsu | vans01: sledges: thanks | 09:48 |
sledges | (and discovered) | 09:48 |
vans01 | sledges, Magick! I've done nothing, but now it asks for pass for the ap. And connected.... | 09:49 |
vans01 | Dark magick of few reboots and clicks | 09:49 |
sledges | vans01: miraculous! ;) | 09:49 |
sledges | what's your wlan router? | 09:49 |
vans01 | But I was ready for it - this is "development software. This is not production quality". )) Kinda beta test. | 09:50 |
vans01 | sledges, some soho Zyxel Kintetic | 09:51 |
vans01 | *Kinetic | 09:51 |
sledges | ta, put a note | 09:51 |
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vans01 | ok, btw, I have no other router somewhere near, but I'll try some open APs later. | 09:57 |
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sledges | thanks, great field testing vans01 :) | 10:04 |
vans01 | sledges, no prob., nice to be helpful a bit. | 10:05 |
vans01 | btw, Is there a reason to make jolla account? Is it "a must" for something? | 10:06 |
Yaniel | to access jolla's app store | 10:07 |
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vans01 | Yaniel, of course, yep... | 10:07 |
vans01 | that should be obvious for me >_< | 10:08 |
sledges | vans01: store is disabled on nexus4 now ;) | 10:08 |
sledges | where did you find "a must" bit? :) | 10:08 |
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vans01 | sledges, I mean to activate/access some services. | 10:08 |
sledges | they should all be disabled | 10:08 |
sledges | could you tell me where you found those? | 10:09 |
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sledges | (email says, jolla account/store is not available in this release) | 10:09 |
sledges | :) | 10:09 |
vans01 | well... I have a look... | 10:09 |
sledges | thanks again for helping ;) | 10:10 |
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fzk | sledges: ill try out some wpa2 enterprise on i9305 when it comes out | 10:12 |
sledges | fzk: thanks, but it's a known bug in sailfish, hardware independent | 10:13 |
sledges | we have a ticket about it on together.j.c | 10:13 |
fzk | ok | 10:13 |
vans01 | sledges, well... If I tap any previously installed (in Cyanogen) android app | 10:13 |
sledges | vans01: that means you had to wipe ;) | 10:14 |
vans01 | there is a screen | 10:14 |
sledges | and didn't follow email ;) | 10:14 |
vans01 | asking for account | 10:14 |
sledges | can't support you there :) | 10:14 |
vans01 | sledges, ok, ok, I see | 10:14 |
sledges | but thanks for pointing out, android apps bring that up | 10:15 |
vans01 | I've meant that there is way to access account creation screen.)) | 10:15 |
sledges | i'll keep in mind | 10:15 |
vans01 | ok;) | 10:15 |
sledges | yep ;) | 10:15 |
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fzk | sledges: ah ok, ill submit any findings there then | 10:18 |
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sledges | fzk: email kindly asks you to submit them here pls | 10:18 |
sledges | im just commenting on your finding ;) | 10:18 |
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sledges | apologies about confusion, but jolla is not sailfish ;) | 10:20 |
fzk | ah yes, i forgot that for a moment | 10:20 |
sledges | think about Dell and Linux example ;) | 10:21 |
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sledges | we are thrilled to introduce more devices running sailfish, but since those are early stages, bug reporting is focused here | 10:22 |
fzk | okay, perhaps should have bugtraq | 10:22 |
sledges | until proper infrastructure is built for rock solid releases | 10:22 |
sledges | fzk: im putting all what you say into a bugtraq | 10:22 |
sledges | will be used against you | 10:23 |
sledges | :D | 10:23 |
sledges | (enough jokes for this morning :D) | 10:23 |
fzk | sledges: i c, ill msg any findings with logs when i start testing then | 10:23 |
fzk | :-) | 10:23 |
sledges | sure, thanks fzk ! | 10:24 |
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olidadude | sledges when does the second wave come? | 10:27 |
sledges | soon | 10:28 |
Morpog_Jolla_ | :) | 10:29 |
olidadude | will this have a updated version of the jolla zip? | 10:30 |
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sledges | if you are already registered, yes | 10:31 |
olidadude | what will be the improvements? what is your progress? | 10:32 |
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jussi | olidadude: is the stock market going to go up or down? :D | 10:34 |
sledges | olidadude: good | 10:35 |
olidadude | jussi: do you mean that's the same akward question?... I think not | 10:36 |
stephg | will my house be reposessed if I don't keep up my mortgage repayments? | 10:37 |
fzk | for fun, somebody should add to sailfish as language of the swedish dialect from närpiö in finland, all swedes would go crazy :-) | 10:37 |
olidadude | sledges: cant you say what you're working on to get fixed? | 10:37 |
fzk | probably best to wait and see | 10:38 |
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coderus | can i get gstreamer help there? | 10:40 |
coderus | jolla-mediaplayer cant play some aac files: | 10:40 |
coderus | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7167728/ | 10:40 |
sledges | olidadude: calls audio ofc | 10:41 |
olidadude | calls is nice. yesterday someone called me and i answerd but there was a awkward silence the whole time :D | 10:43 |
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sledges | :D | 10:43 |
sledges | as long as it's not TOH, all good ;) | 10:44 |
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olidadude | by audio you mean audio jack? Cause audio worked for me just fine :D | 10:45 |
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sledges | calls-audio | 10:46 |
olidadude | ic | 10:46 |
olidadude | ^^ | 10:46 |
Stskeeps | silly question, how are you guys creating jolla accounts on n4..? | 10:46 |
Stskeeps | and where do you read it | 10:46 |
sledges | calls work, who needs audio? ;) | 10:46 |
Stskeeps | i thought i nuked it quite well | 10:46 |
sledges | Stskeeps: keep reading backlog ;P | 10:46 |
sledges | 12:13 < vans01> sledges, well... If I tap any previously installed (in Cyanogen) android app | 10:46 |
Stskeeps | i'm in a train, tldr | 10:46 |
sledges | 12:14 < vans01> there is a screen | 10:46 |
sledges | 12:14 < vans01> asking for account | 10:46 |
Stskeeps | sledges: doh | 10:46 |
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Stskeeps | well, another case of people not reading my email | 10:47 |
Stskeeps | :P | 10:47 |
sledges | you have all time on your hands on a train, no? ;) | 10:47 |
Stskeeps | yes but not a good internet connection | 10:47 |
sledges | yes, i already told that to vans01 ;) | 10:47 |
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sledges | not that you said something bad ofc | 10:48 |
sledges | :D | 10:48 |
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* Stskeeps mumbles :) | 10:48 | |
jussi | is there a prize for finding places that it asks for the jolla creds? | 10:49 |
jussi | :D | 10:49 |
sledges | beer is always a prize | 10:49 |
Stskeeps | sze plank | 10:49 |
Stskeeps | :P | 10:49 |
stephg | I like beer | 10:49 |
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jussi | stephg: me too! | 10:49 |
sledges | but probably not for -every- findings category :)) | 10:49 |
stephg | ha | 10:50 |
sledges | walk the plank Stskeeps ? :)) | 10:50 |
olidadude | what you could use the apps you previosly installed on the cm you flashed? :O Doesn't the Jolla account still block you? | 10:50 |
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Ni-Cola | Hi | 10:51 |
stephg | completely trivial thing, on boot if the battery is full you get a notification that charging is complete | 10:51 |
stephg | (even if it's not plugged in) | 10:51 |
jussi | anyone here know when the next hack day in Helsinki is? | 10:52 |
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Ni-Cola | Sorry, anyone can help me? I want to join early adopters with my Nexus 5! | 10:53 |
sledges | stephg: thanks :) | 10:53 |
sledges | olidadude: no android support | 10:54 |
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sledges | Ni-Cola: pm me your name and email and why :) | 10:54 |
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coderus | AAC Bug at TJC: https://together.jolla.com/question/36731/cant-play-some-aac-files/ | 10:54 |
coderus | check/vote please | 10:54 |
CvP | sledge any free give aways? :) | 10:54 |
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sledges | CvP: it's free | 10:55 |
CvP | but what? :) | 10:55 |
Ni-Cola | <sledges> ok I will do | 10:55 |
sledges | CvP: the image | 10:56 |
Ni-Cola | <sledges> I have some trouble in PM via webchat, I will do by irc client | 10:56 |
sledges | Ni-Cola: type /msg sledges hi | 10:56 |
vans01 | Sorry if I missed that info, what's the username for ssh connection? | 10:58 |
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jussi | think it was nemo | 10:58 |
vans01 | I'll try... | 10:58 |
jussi | yeah, read the email again | 10:58 |
jussi | section entitled: To SSH into your device via USB (Linux) | 10:59 |
joonahoi | Ni-Cola: judging by the comments (and the problems people are having), listing "ability to read" as one of the reasons will give you a huge advantage | 11:00 |
jussi | joonahoi: :D | 11:00 |
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vans01 | omg, my bad. | 11:00 |
* vans01 going to re read it 3 times | 11:00 | |
sledges | joonahoi: it's ok to save his time by giving out one irc command , instead of having him reading the whole irc manual now | 11:01 |
coderus | its time for #sailfishandroid channel? :D | 11:03 |
Stskeeps | coderus: at some point | 11:04 |
Stskeeps | sailfishos isn't only sdk :) | 11:04 |
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NoGy | Is there any way to keep the device from entering sleep mode except having a charger plugged or a crude console hack? | 11:07 |
jussi | hrrr, my daughter has disappeared with my n4... I cant find it. :/ | 11:07 |
Stskeeps | mcetool might do it | 11:07 |
Stskeeps | jussi: you installed sailfish and now it's suddenly more attractive? | 11:07 |
jussi | Stskeeps: something like that | 11:08 |
Yaniel | :D | 11:08 |
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squidd | jussi: more rum?! | 11:10 |
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jussi | squidd: yes please | 11:10 |
* squidd passes the bottle | 11:10 | |
jussi | thanks | 11:11 |
coderus | Stskeeps: but its more general discussions than specific android adaptations :) | 11:12 |
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jussi | Found it! Under her bed... | 11:12 |
jussi | (actually I asked my wife where it was, would never of found it otherwise) :P | 11:13 |
squidd | :D | 11:13 |
squidd | wifes rock! :D | 11:13 |
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joonahoi | sledges: yeah, I was referring more into the difficulties people have a) reading the email by Stskeeps or b) understanding what they just read | 11:15 |
jussi | btw, what is the little thing that looks like a angled egg timer on the left of the time? (idle screen) | 11:15 |
Yaniel | 3G? | 11:15 |
stephg | yeah mobile data? | 11:15 |
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stephg | joonahoi, I think it's because people are/were excited | 11:15 |
joonahoi | yup, its mobile data up & down indicators | 11:15 |
joonahoi | stephg: i know | 11:16 |
Yaniel | two triangles indicating activity | 11:16 |
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sledges | joonahoi: Ni-Cola is very new person, let's make him feel welcomed | 11:16 |
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joonahoi | Yeah, I'm sorry, was just trying to be funny, the awkward finnish way | 11:16 |
jussi | Yaniel: stephg ok, I guess. bit cryptic, but ok :D | 11:17 |
sledges | joonahoi: np peace :) | 11:17 |
stephg | jussi, you don't have a jolla? | 11:17 |
jussi | stephg: only the N4 | 11:17 |
squidd | JOLLA \o/ | 11:17 |
stephg | ah that'd be why you're not familiar with the icons | 11:18 |
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jussi | stephg: My bank account had a fit when I told it I wanted to buy one. | 11:18 |
jussi | :P | 11:18 |
squidd | :O | 11:19 |
stephg | I'm sure if you asked her nicely she'd have let you ;) | 11:19 |
jussi | Im actually suprised how damn smooth this is. very nice work | 11:19 |
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squidd | stephg: pretty sure that doesnt work | 11:21 |
joonahoi | jussi: check https://jolla.com/guide/ it applies to sailfish only for some parts too | 11:21 |
joonahoi | eg. the icons and such | 11:21 |
jussi | joonahoi: hey, Im a 30 something male - do you seriously expect me to read a user guide? :P :P :P :P | 11:22 |
Stskeeps | people don't even read emails these days | 11:23 |
Stskeeps | :P | 11:23 |
stephg | meow lol | 11:23 |
sledges | lel | 11:23 |
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olidadude | lel script not activated i think :( sad story | 11:30 |
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stephg | on the n4: presume this counts as 'sensors' but landscape no worky in browser | 11:31 |
sledges | he's not here | 11:31 |
Stskeeps | stephg: if you switch orientation manually, it does | 11:32 |
stephg | ah so yeah, sensors | 11:32 |
stephg | okies | 11:32 |
stephg | this is tough you know, lots of it works :) | 11:32 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 11:32 |
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jussi | apps ftw :D | 11:43 |
Lafi | anyone tried to install sailfish on Galaxy S ? Is it possible? | 11:46 |
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tbr | Lafi: does it run CM10.1? | 11:48 |
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leszek | hi | 11:49 |
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vans01 | btw, I prefer cm10.1 over cm10.2 personally. 10.2 made huge battery drain (for my setup), may be it's something related to curent setup or due to some software, but there was no such problem with 10.1.(2,3) | 11:58 |
vans01 | so I have flashed 10.1.3 after giving a try for 10.2 | 11:59 |
vans01 | and finally flashed sailfish)) | 11:59 |
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Devaux | Thank you for the Mako image :) | 12:00 |
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petersen77 | Can't wait for a i9305 image ;-) | 12:01 |
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jussi | hrm, onyone know if there is an elisa viihde application for sailfish? | 12:04 |
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jussi | (there is an open client for android) | 12:04 |
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Sequenced | jussi: yes there is. goviihde | 12:09 |
Sequenced | in jolla store | 12:09 |
jussi | Sequenced: ok, thanks. Ill go try find an RPM somewhere | 12:10 |
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coderus | any dirty hackish whatever way to load html code to WebView dynamically, not with file/url? | 12:25 |
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stephg | anyone know if the meecast devs hang around here? | 12:27 |
jussi | hrrr. can you get rpms from the jolla store somehow? google not turning much up for goviihde rpm | 12:28 |
leszek | coderus: isn't there the html: option available ? So html: "<html><body>Your content</body></html> ? At least it was there in qtwebkit 1.0 | 12:29 |
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coderus | leszek: in WebKit 3 no | 12:40 |
coderus | i solved it by loadHtml function | 12:40 |
leszek | ah ok. Interesting | 12:41 |
leszek | loadHtml function has a couble more features | 12:41 |
coderus | stephg: no | 12:41 |
coderus | stephg: https://github.com/Meecast/meecast | 12:41 |
stephg | ah cool, thx coderus | 12:41 |
stephg | they have many many resolution dependent things :) | 12:42 |
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_aortmann | hi :) | 13:00 |
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sledges | hello :) | 13:01 |
sledges | and welcome! | 13:01 |
sledges | _aortmann: pm me more details about you pls | 13:01 |
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Devaux | Volume control doesn't work in the mako-Build | 13:03 |
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jussi | Devaux: seems to work for me... ? | 13:06 |
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bentz | hello | 13:10 |
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jussi | hi bentz! | 13:11 |
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Devaux | jussi: Hmmm. I get a lot of Notification sounds from Google | 13:14 |
Devaux | Even when it's muted, it had the same volume | 13:14 |
Devaux | Google Messenger | 13:14 |
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jussi | yeah, I dunno about notifications, but when I put this one too silent, the clicks from pulley menus disappear | 13:18 |
sledges | Devaux: we mentioned something about notification sounds yesterday, will check the backlog | 13:18 |
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netzvieh | jussi: "hrrr. can you get rpms from the jolla store somehow? google not turning much up for goviihde rpm" -> pkcon -d install "rpm-name", that puts it to /var/cache/zypp/packages/$repo/rpms/ | 13:20 |
Devaux | sledges: ok :) | 13:20 |
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netzvieh | jussi: you'd need the store working though | 13:21 |
jussi | netzvieh: ahh excellent. No I just have to go bother the brother inlaw and steal his Jolla | 13:22 |
jussi | Unless someone here wants to get me the goviihde rpm.... | 13:22 |
Nicd- | jussi: just a sec | 13:23 |
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netzvieh | hmm the path is only valid for the store repo, but it's always /var/cache/zypp/packages/$repo somewhere under this folder :) | 13:25 |
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Nicd- | jussi: http://files.nytsoi.net/harbour-goviihde-1.5-1.armv7hl.rpm | 13:26 |
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jussi | Nicd-: thanks very much... ill give it a go :) | 13:27 |
natorious | N4 possible issues found last night: | 13:29 |
natorious | Web Browser | 13:29 |
natorious | - Should auto complete url based on history, bookmarks, or common interests | 13:29 |
natorious | - Url bar ‘X’ should clear url and focus cursor | 13:29 |
natorious | - When typing new url in existing tab, net tab label is displayed | 13:29 |
natorious | - In new tab screen, favorites is misspelled | 13:29 |
natorious | - Double tap to zoom page does not work | 13:29 |
natorious | 13:29 | |
natorious | - Gmail account stuck at updating when web pages load fine? | 13:29 |
natorious | General | 13:29 |
natorious | - Missing audio feedback from volume rocker | 13:29 |
natorious | - Display orientation setting appears to do nothing | 13:29 |
natorious | - Ringtone slider doesn’t preview spund | 13:29 |
natorious | - Device lock not setting | 13:29 |
natorious | - Not able to enable untrusted software | 13:29 |
natorious | - Mobile data counters not increasing | 13:29 |
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netzvieh | natorious: display orientation und device lock are mentioned in the mail iirc | 13:30 |
Nicd- | favorites misspelled? | 13:30 |
natorious | netzvieh: didn't see it listed | 13:31 |
natorious | the display orientation from sensors obviously wouldn't work | 13:32 |
natorious | but, overriding the setting to landscape should | 13:32 |
netzvieh | natorious: favourites is spelled fine. its british english | 13:32 |
natorious | haha | 13:32 |
sledges | just like harbour ;) | 13:32 |
natorious | I somehow managed to hard lock last night but, don't have steps to reproduce | 13:33 |
Nightmare__ | colour :D | 13:33 |
sledges | natorious: great work, thanks \o/ | 13:33 |
natorious | :) | 13:34 |
natorious | bbiab | 13:34 |
Nicd- | natorious: you misspelled natorios ;) | 13:34 |
jussi | oh, this is a disappointment - seems go viihde doesnt support actually watching the stuff. | 13:34 |
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sledges | natorious: some of the issue are in jolla phone too, will report those all by kicking the concerning parties ;) | 13:35 |
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netzvieh | damn | 13:43 |
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netzvieh | set time bc it didn't work yesterday | 13:43 |
netzvieh | *timer | 13:43 |
netzvieh | for one minute and after dunno 10 minutes it now rings | 13:43 |
netzvieh | and the display stays off -.- | 13:44 |
sledges | netzvieh: timers fall under the non-working 'alarms' category in the email ;) | 13:44 |
netzvieh | sledges: i know ;) but it's still fascinating | 13:45 |
sledges | what | 13:45 |
sledges | the bug? | 13:45 |
sledges | :)) | 13:45 |
netzvieh | that it rings after ~10 minutes | 13:45 |
netzvieh | and the display stays off | 13:45 |
sledges | lol yea ok | 13:45 |
sledges | just in case you wouldn't be too late anywhere :D | 13:46 |
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carepack | hope jolle is getting bigger than nokia. to show them that they made a mistake letting meego die. | 13:58 |
coderus | please help!!! how can i go offline in google talk with sailfish built-in google account? | 13:58 |
coderus | i want to go offline on my phone and receive messages to my desktop only :) | 13:58 |
Nightmare__ | coderus, notificationscreen, pulldownmeno,statusinformation, set to offline | 13:59 |
sledges | Nightmare__: you mean show presence details ? | 13:59 |
jussi | is there some sort of media player plugin for the Jolla browser? | 13:59 |
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Nightmare__ | maybe :) i use it on german | 14:00 |
sledges | jussi: on n4 we were happy it showed html5 video and sound on jolla.com out of box :) | 14:00 |
jussi | sledges: :D | 14:00 |
sledges | the rest is up to gstreamer plugins onboard i guess | 14:01 |
sledges | haven't dived in there | 14:01 |
jussi | sledges: Im attempting to get the eliisa viihde stuff working - it needs VLC plugin on Ubuntu, so I guess Im looking for the equivalent | 14:01 |
sledges | because on jolla i sometimes see flash video plugin look-alikes, but i see dead people too, so.. | 14:01 |
jussi | sledges: :D | 14:01 |
sledges | jussi: ask on #jollamobile | 14:01 |
jussi | sledges: ok fair point, thanks | 14:02 |
sledges | how they use eliisa | 14:02 |
sledges | on jollas | 14:02 |
sledges | or also ask Nicd- ;) | 14:02 |
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Nicd- | jussi: I don't watch it on my phone | 14:06 |
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jussi | Nicd-: oh :( | 14:07 |
Nicd- | I can barely look at short videos on youtube, the screen is just too small for anything more :P | 14:07 |
Nicd- | tried watching movies on my 13" laptop earlier, just got a headache | 14:07 |
jussi | hehe | 14:07 |
jussi | I like to watch <1h shows on my galaxy note. | 14:08 |
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Nicd- | I only use goviihde for setting recordings | 14:08 |
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Nicd- | it's convenient for that | 14:08 |
jussi | yeah, i can imagine. | 14:09 |
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coderus | Nightmare__: i see no offline here. only online and dont disturb | 14:13 |
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coderus | ah found it, thanks | 14:14 |
coderus | status information | 14:14 |
coderus | always missing that menu item :D | 14:14 |
coderus | that helps me a lot, thanks :) | 14:14 |
Nightmare__ | i'm not happy with that label too | 14:14 |
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jussi | sledges: WRT the power button not working sometimes item (in the email list) it seems it actually is pretty consistent that is doesnt work on a short press, but works on a longer press. (or maybe harder press) | 14:26 |
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jussi | Not a long difference, but kinda like the difference if you press on a capacitive touch screen vs a resistive | 14:27 |
natorious | I noticed the notes export via email didn't seem to produce a valid vnt file. Tried copy/pasting the contents of the file into a vnt/txt converter and also decrypting with base64 which was a tjc solution but, didn't work | 14:27 |
natorious | have the source file if needed | 14:28 |
vans01 | strange... seems cellular network connect but no internet.... According to the email ,it should work, shouldn't it | 14:28 |
sledges | natorious: could someone on that tjc ticket verify that? | 14:28 |
vans01 | ? | 14:29 |
jussi | also, is there a reason the tutorial thing stays in your menu ? | 14:29 |
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sledges | jussi: yes if you want to show to friend to get around :) | 14:29 |
natorious | sledges: possibly, I can post nfo there | 14:29 |
jussi | sledges: ok. Just noticing that most other systems hid that somewhere after first run | 14:30 |
sledges | vans01: you most likely need to set APN manually | 14:30 |
vans01 | sledges, yep. I'd like to... but where? | 14:30 |
* vans01 should read more manuals | 14:30 | |
sledges | vans01: settings-system-mobile internet | 14:30 |
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sledges | *mobile network | 14:30 |
sledges | long press on the first bullet (with arrows fav icon) | 14:31 |
vans01 | yep.... | 14:31 |
sledges | you'll see edit | 14:31 |
vans01 | Oh... | 14:31 |
vans01 | I've thought it's usb connection only... | 14:31 |
vans01 | oops, I see.... | 14:32 |
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sledges | natorious: link to that ticket pls? | 14:36 |
natorious | https://together.jolla.com/question/20391/sharing-from-notes-as-vnt-doesnt-work-please-add-plain-text-support/ | 14:36 |
sledges | natorious: great thanks | 14:37 |
natorious | np | 14:37 |
natorious | here is the contents of the vnt file I noticed this on too | 14:38 |
natorious | http://pastebin.com/qs8Y92g4 | 14:38 |
vans01 | sledges, now I have mobile iternet, great. Works quite smooth, cool | 14:40 |
vans01 | thx | 14:40 |
sledges | \o/ | 14:41 |
SpeedEvil | Bring back OSS! | 14:41 |
natorious | any plans on mako supporting lte? | 14:43 |
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natorious | looks like these radios support it | 14:45 |
natorious | http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/updated-zip-one-lte-enabler-flash-one-t2358931 | 14:45 |
sledges | can't say really | 14:45 |
sledges | natorious: notes taken, ta | 14:45 |
coderus | waht is name of text selection handlers? | 14:46 |
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NoGy | natorious: they don't support all LTE channels. Supporting it would not work for all countries/providers, so you end up with a lot of bogus bug reports. | 14:46 |
coderus | means name of icons | 14:46 |
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natorious | NoGy: if its just a matter of flashing the modem/radio, I might give it a try and see if it plays nice. Imagine I could flash back to the CM 10.1.3 ones after | 14:49 |
NoGy | natorious: wasn't the 4.2.2 release the one with hidden LTE setting which google removed in a later release? | 14:52 |
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natorious | NoGy: not sure, I'm new to the n4. In that xda post the provided radios enable band 4 on 4.2 though | 14:53 |
NoGy | I have no LTE data plan, so I never went for it :) I just remember there was sth. like that | 14:54 |
natorious | the t-mobile n4 supports 3g/hdspa+/lte | 14:54 |
natorious | on sailfish it seems to only pull 3g speeds | 14:54 |
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flotron | sledges: the main bug i found is the touch, sometimes i need to swipe from side to side to minimize an app and sometimes just a 50% swipe work | 14:59 |
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flotron | maybe depends of the swipe speed? | 15:01 |
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sledges | flotron: on the swipe edge :) | 15:08 |
sledges | takes a bit of getting used to | 15:08 |
sledges | always should be enough 30% of width to minimise app | 15:09 |
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flotron | ok, i thought it would be the same as n9. Good to know | 15:19 |
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flotron | Another thing is that sometimes left edge swipe doesnt work, and i have to edge-swipe from right | 15:23 |
sledges | flotron: try holding phone in another hand | 15:24 |
sledges | if your palm touches the screen, swipe is interrupted | 15:24 |
flotron | is not that i tried with one finger with the phone on desk, for ex is happening now with irc app | 15:25 |
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flotron | i can video the bug if you want | 15:27 |
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flotron | now that i lock and unlock is start to work again, but then same happens | 15:30 |
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sledges | hmm, are you sure you are swiping from the very very edge? flux | 15:39 |
sledges | s/flux/flotron who disappeared/ | 15:39 |
sledges | ;) | 15:39 |
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NoGy | argh, you screwed me. I now miss swipe gestures in android | 16:30 |
leszek | :) | 16:31 |
leszek | Everyone I know who used android before said that | 16:31 |
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Mnsu | yeah, those gestures become to feel so natural very quickly :) | 16:33 |
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stephg | he sledges what do you have in your bugtracker for sleepy things on the n4 | 16:36 |
stephg | s/^he/hey/ | 16:36 |
stephg | it does so much sleeping that xmpp don't alert | 16:36 |
* stephg now has a lovely stereo effect for new messages, jolla one side, n4 the other | 16:37 | |
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kimmoli_sailing | 3.0 audio ... | 16:44 |
stephg | heh | 16:47 |
sledges | pulseaudio 4.0 ;) | 16:52 |
sledges | stephg: so you mean sync doesn't work when sleeps? | 16:53 |
stephg | someone sends me a jabber message | 16:53 |
stephg | both n4, and jolla are 'sleeping' | 16:53 |
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stephg | the jolla will notify immediately | 16:53 |
stephg | the n4 will notify only when I wake the screen | 16:53 |
stephg | is what it looks like | 16:53 |
sledges | ok, noted down ;) thanks! | 16:53 |
stephg | like it's sleeping too deeply | 16:53 |
sledges | what about emails? | 16:53 |
stephg | pass, not set my mail up | 16:54 |
stephg | will do that now | 16:54 |
sledges | oki | 16:54 |
special | does it notify if you wait (up to) 2.5 minutes after receiving the message, without touching anything? | 16:54 |
* sledges afk a bit o/ | 16:54 | |
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stephg | special, will do that now | 16:54 |
stephg | one sec | 16:54 |
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special | (the device wakes every 2.5 minutes to ping IM servers; it should be waking on network traffic too, but apparently isn't) | 16:55 |
sledges | stephg: one sec is too short | 16:56 |
* sledges ducks | 16:56 | |
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stephg | lol | 16:56 |
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Stskeeps | NoGy: now imagine if we had added double tap to wake up | 16:56 |
Stskeeps | err.. ok, i was scrolled up like hell | 16:56 |
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stephg | special, looks like it is a length of time but it does notify | 16:57 |
stephg | let me do again and time it | 16:57 |
Stskeeps | stephg: fwiw i'm not sure suspend is 100% good on n4 | 16:57 |
stephg | (this is actually a reply from a misbehaving app that doesn't honour the device-specific xmpp stuff | 16:57 |
stephg | ) | 16:58 |
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stephg | Stskeeps, I'm sure there's lots of oddness | 16:58 |
stephg | hence wondering if there were other sleepy things going on | 16:58 |
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* stephg message sent | 16:59 | |
* stephg n4 notifies 56s after message sent | 17:00 | |
* stephg jolla did it within ~1s | 17:00 | |
stephg | may not be 'broken', but it behaves differently to the jolla | 17:01 |
Stskeeps | it might just be sleeping too deepily | 17:01 |
stephg | yup | 17:01 |
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* stephg now working on the next important thing, getting this installed on the servers for tuesday: https://github.com/gbigwood/Clippo | 17:03 | |
Stskeeps | stephg: we should be logging in journal when we sleep | 17:09 |
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stephg | Stskeeps ok cool | 17:10 |
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Stskeeps | natorious: thanks for good reports | 17:15 |
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Stskeeps | flotron: that might factually be a sailfishos general bug | 17:15 |
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yourname | HELLO ALL PEOPLE OF THE CHANNEL | 17:16 |
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Stskeeps | HELLO YOURNAME | 17:16 |
yourname | oh, shit | 17:16 |
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squidd | THATS BETTER :D | 17:16 |
stephg | lol | 17:16 |
stephg | half way there :) | 17:16 |
squidd | something like that | 17:16 |
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stephg | Stskeeps all I can see out of the box in the journal is the display dimming then sleeping | 17:21 |
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stephg | may need to up the logging if that's possible, I don't know very much about the systemd journal yet | 17:22 |
Stskeeps | hmm, ok | 17:22 |
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stephg | entirely probably me not doing something right | 17:24 |
stephg | anyway, pub, see you guys later | 17:24 |
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coderus | can you give me info how to put my application logs to journal? | 17:33 |
Stskeeps | stdout/stderr? | 17:34 |
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special | it will just happen if you're launched by something under systemd - including lipstick and boosters | 17:34 |
kimmoli_sailing | see tohkbd | 17:34 |
kimmoli_sailing | coderus: ^ | 17:35 |
kimmoli_sailing | but y, that starts under systemd | 17:36 |
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coderus | kimmoli_sailing: ^^ ?? | 17:41 |
coderus | :D | 17:41 |
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kimmoli_sailing | just that journal logging.... | 17:42 |
coderus | setlinebuf | 17:42 |
coderus | ? | 17:42 |
kimmoli_sailing | but need to start with systemd afaik | 17:43 |
kimmoli_sailing | printf goes then to journal | 17:43 |
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kimmoli_sailing | how about sd_journal_print ? | 17:46 |
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coderus | what is it? | 17:53 |
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locusf | error: #error "You must build your code with position independent code if Qt was built with -reduce-relocations. " "Compile your code with -fPIC or -fPIE." <- any ideas about this error? Comes while compiling another homescreen | 18:07 |
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antoniolatiano | hello | 18:11 |
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antoniolatiano | someone know how to install mp3 codec to our very awesome sailfish installation? | 18:12 |
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locusf | if I do add -fPIC then it errors out like this: http://pastie.org/8976581 | 18:14 |
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mike7b4_jolla | hi all, testing irc on sailfishos :) | 18:20 |
leszek | mike7b4_jolla: nice ;) | 18:20 |
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mike7b4_jolla | shame cant use in 3g mode since op does not allow port used by irc :/ | 18:21 |
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sledges | locusf: mb2 ? | 18:41 |
locusf | sledges: yes | 18:42 |
carepack | mike7b4_jolla: which irc client? the one I#ve tried can't save server settings | 18:42 |
sledges | which homescren? | 18:42 |
locusf | sledges: glacier-home | 18:43 |
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sledges | but it worked yesterday | 18:43 |
jpnurmi | carepack: can't save server settings? | 18:44 |
locusf | yeah worked ok just before | 18:45 |
sledges | locusf: hmph cache? | 18:45 |
locusf | sledges: which one? | 18:45 |
locusf | I make cleaned | 18:45 |
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sledges | mb2 clean | 18:45 |
sledges | is better | 18:46 |
locusf | no clean | 18:46 |
locusf | prints usage | 18:46 |
sledges | mb clean then :D | 18:46 |
locusf | lol that worked | 18:47 |
sledges | :D | 18:47 |
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carepack | jpnurmi: yes. I'm using this irc client and can't add for example freenode as a server . http://forum.jollausers.com/sailfish-applications/(beta)-okeanos-sailfish-irc-client/ | 18:47 |
jpnurmi | ah | 18:48 |
jpnurmi | carepack: have you tried the one available in store? | 18:48 |
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locusf | sledges: but nothing happened, it just hanged | 18:48 |
sledges | locusf: worth informing lbt about this (on #mer) | 18:48 |
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locusf | sledges: ok | 18:48 |
* sledges continues afk \o | 18:48 | |
carepack | jpnurmi: no. sailfish on n4. | 18:50 |
jpnurmi | carepack: https://github.com/communi/communi-sailfish/releases | 18:50 |
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carepack | jpnurmi: thx a lot ;-) | 18:51 |
jpnurmi | np :) | 18:51 |
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carepack | another question. I'm on N4. Warehouse showing me a lot of updates. But I can't select them all. I have to manually update every single package. Is an terminal command for it? Or is it not recommend to update? | 18:53 |
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cvp | hi | 18:58 |
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M4rtinK | carepack: "zypper up" should do | 19:00 |
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carepack | M4rtinK: thx | 19:03 |
carepack | is working | 19:03 |
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flotron | command to refresh desktop? | 20:05 |
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Almindor | is there a class/method in Qt5/sailfish/QML to format numerical seconds value into something like 1 day 5 hours 34 minutes 5 seconds? | 20:23 |
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suy | Almindor: try with QTime::addSeconds for starters | 20:27 |
stephg | good evening | 20:27 |
Almindor | suy, but that doesn't give an interval string as output, QTime gives 12:54:40 or such | 20:27 |
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suy | Almindor: I think KDE had something like this. Probably has been introduced, but I can't recall now. A quick look to QLocale gives some possibilities. | 20:30 |
suy | *introduced to qt in 5.x, i mean | 20:30 |
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Shin_NeMeSiS | Hi | 20:34 |
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Shin_NeMeSiS | the early n4 rom works great, but i found that the text in the search boxes is misaligned | 20:35 |
stephg | Shin_NeMeSiS, where? | 20:36 |
stephg | got an example? | 20:36 |
stephg | (or steps to reproduce?) | 20:36 |
Shin_NeMeSiS | in openrepos warehouse for sailfish app for example | 20:36 |
stephg | anything in any of the default apps? | 20:37 |
stephg | the 3rd party apps may not deal with the screen resolution | 20:37 |
stephg | meecast forexample doesn't? | 20:37 |
Shin_NeMeSiS | no, the default apps work great, but i miss music playback :) | 20:37 |
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suy | coderus: this is more or less what I've done successfully for logging to the journal at work: http://pastie.org/8976872 | 20:38 |
suy | qt 5.3 will have native support, fortunately | 20:39 |
Shin_NeMeSiS | is there a way to install the missing codecs or activate music playback in the media player? | 20:40 |
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stephg | Shin_NeMeSiS, assuming the media player works (dunno if it does) you may be able to sideload the codecs from the jolla repos | 20:46 |
stephg | but they probably can't be 'distributed' | 20:46 |
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stephg | can anyone quickly remind me how to take a screenshot via dbus | 20:53 |
stephg | if not, sledges lbt Stskeeps tbr or special got an odd case on the n4 with notifications of double messages on xmpp | 20:54 |
stephg | going to bed now but my notification screen shows 8 new mails (fine), 15 new messages and 13 new messages | 20:55 |
stephg | will be a mixture of FB and xmpp but the probably should be one consolidated list | 20:55 |
stephg | anyway *really* going to bed now | 20:55 |
Acce | dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=org.nemomobile.lipstick \ /org/nemomobile/lipstick/screenshot org.nemomobile.lipstick.saveScreenshot string:"$filename" | 20:57 |
Acce | maybe? it's from the mailing list | 20:57 |
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M4rtinK | Acce: BTW, is dbus-send pre-installed ? | 21:04 |
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Acce | M4rtinK: seem so, as I have it | 21:11 |
Acce | and I haven't installed much extra packages | 21:12 |
M4rtinK | Acce: looks like a nice harbor friendly DBUS interface | 21:12 |
M4rtinK | Acce: at least for simple stuff like screen blanking control | 21:12 |
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Acce | mhmm, although why not just use the Qt's dbus interface classes? | 21:13 |
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sledges | stephg: to bed? it's just 9:30pm ;) | 21:40 |
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G-Ray | Just tried sailfish OS on my N4 ! I have to say WOW !! I really like the gesture based UI concepts ! | 22:44 |
Hartzi | so you never tried nokia n9? | 22:45 |
satmd | n9+sailfish... I still need a guide to _replace_ the existing os | 22:45 |
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G-Ray | When Sailfish OS source code should be published ? | 22:48 |
Hartzi | most of it is already public. Only UI is closed atm | 22:49 |
G-Ray | Yeah, I mean UI | 22:50 |
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G-Ray | Why Jolla's team focused on an old android release to port Sailfish N | 23:00 |
G-Ray | ? | 23:00 |
sledges | G-Ray: at the start of the project cm10.1 was around and stable, it was too much risk to go for anything less-explored | 23:03 |
sledges | and we leave the porting to any newer cm(android) fun to the community | 23:04 |
sledges | it won't be complicated, but needs to be done, meanwhile we concentrated on release | 23:04 |
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G-Ray | sledges: Is there dev doc to build our own ? I would like to conrtibute :) | 23:18 |
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sledges | that's the 3rd deliverable we'll do G-Ray ;) | 23:51 |
G-Ray | It Seems I can't download any app from my Nexus 4 ? | 23:54 |
sledges | G-Ray: sideload RPMs | 23:55 |
sledges | or install warehouse | 23:55 |
sledges | (by sideloading an RPM ;)) | 23:55 |
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