Friday, 2014-03-28

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cxl000jtjj222, I recommend using the multirom kernel to boot and not share it to start. That way you will get the menu and when you select which rom its kernel will be kexec'd00:13
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olafhcx1000, but it does not go beyond the Google screen for me that way00:18
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olafhcxl000, it does not go beyond the Google screen for me that way00:24
olafhWow, after I did swap my ROMs, eg. making Sailfish OS the primary ROM, I seem to be able to boot it, at least I do get the inital Sailsfish welcome screen now..00:29
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cxl000olafh, Is you multiboot failing or is it failing when launching the sailfish rom?00:30
olafhit was failing when launching sailfish os, when sailfish os was non-primary00:30
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cxl000olafh, from the hanging google screen reboot to recovery and adb pull /proc/last_kmsg if the kernel had booted that should give some idea how far it got.00:39
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olafhcxl000, I can try that later.. am happy now that I can explore sailfish for the 1st time ;-) I would need to swap ROMs back again to be able to test that00:50
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kinezoerr .. hello04:14
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pratikhello all..04:53
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pratiksailfish is running pretty smooth on my nexus 4  and i love it..04:55
lpottergood to hear04:59
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aironoeusSo if they get the other items working you will stay with it and keep flashing nightlies?05:03
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pratikyeah definitely i love it and i would love to test each and every build of it...05:11
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pratikThe only thing which is bugging me right now it that i'm trying to install android support from the store but it keeps waiting and never install.. Is that a bug?05:13
* tbr guesses, that this is not supported right now05:13
kenguI remember chats from yesterday stating it is not supported05:16
pratikyeah! i guess its not supported because it wont install any app from the store..05:18
pratikAlthough .apk files does install but yet they need android support to  work..05:19
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tbrif only people would read their emails:05:29
tbr* The image SW is not currently upgradeable, nor is any typically licensed multimedia codecs (MP3, etc), HERE maps, Android application compatibility layer, or word prediction for virtual keyboard preinstalled.05:29
tbrand yeah, not preinstalled is a nice wording for "probably won't work"05:32
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coderusmorning :P05:56
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Stskeepsgood morning06:00
Stskeepsalso, how did people get store working..06:00
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tortoisedocahoi sailors!06:06
Stskeepsahoi hoi06:06
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squiddrum for everyone!06:16
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squiddwhy not?06:16
fogWraithbut i just got to work :(06:16
squiddits friday06:16
fogWraitha strong argument, though06:17
fogWraithits friday :P06:17
squiddyeah :)06:17
fogWraithwell thank god i only work 10 hours today then :P06:19
coderusejjoman: No cell routes for (making call/sending sms) caused by your operator. ...06:19
squidd10 hours is too much06:20
coderusejjoman: aeguments are next to this item06:20
fogWraith10 hours is kinda ... not too much really06:20
fogWraithits when it hits 12-16 hour shifts it can get tiresome after a week or two06:20
jussimorning all06:20
squiddthinking of "working" 6 hours today06:20
jussisquidd: Ill take some of that rum06:20
fogWraithmorning jussi06:20
ejjomancoderus: i am unsure what 'cell routes' could be in german06:21
jussiits 8:20 am here, and rum sounds great :D06:21
squiddand from that ive already spent 3 by staring at irc06:21
jussimorning fogWraith06:21
coderusejjoman: that means "whatsapp can't call you/send you sms"06:21
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coderusejjoman: no cell routes from whatsapp call center to your country operator06:21
jussiso, how are people getting new apps onto their N4's?06:21
fogWraithmeh, i got up at 4am, questioned everything06:21
fogWraithuntil coffee, of course06:22
Stskeepsmmm coffee06:22
jussioh coffee, brilliant idea06:22
* jussi leaves the rum and goes to find coffee06:22
fogWraithpro-tip, if you want a slave at minimum wage that will work till he wears out, get a swede :P06:22
jussihrm, maybe coffee+rum...06:22
squidda swede.... not too sure aboutthat... i hear they bit lazy06:23
* jussi inserts finnish jokes about swedes at this point...06:23
ejjomancoderus: okay, i think i got it :) will translate it later06:23
* fogWraith retorts with swedish jokes about finns at some point06:23
tortoisedoc15 man and a dead man's chest - howhowhow!06:24
fogWraithwhy is the man dead and why does he have a chest, to begin with? :P06:24
tortoisedocjolla : when will we get sailfish code?06:25
tortoisedocfogWraith : that's the point of the song , the 15 man are trying to figure it out with rum :P06:25
jussifogWraith: most people have chests, even dead ones06:25
tortoisedocStskeeps: sailfish/silica/qmlplugins06:25
fogWraithmeh :P06:26
coderusejjoman: sure. current release is stable enough to wait a week for new one06:26
squiddjussi: unless they died cos of alien thingy coming out of their chest!06:26
squiddthen they dont have chest anymore!06:26
Stskeepstortoisedoc: part of it is, the qml part, rest isn't atm06:26
jussisquidd: entirely possible06:26
Stskeepstortoisedoc: sailfish browser is oss, virtual keyboard layouts..06:26
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tortoisedocStskeeps : im just nagging cause the parts that interest me arent :P06:27
tortoisedocotherwise it's pretty awesome that it is so open06:27
coderustortoisedoc wants lipstick :)06:27
squiddtortoisedoc: nagging isnt very nice :O06:27
tortoisedocsquidd : tell that to my wife (with all the respect to the women) :P06:28
squiddtortoisedoc: you should know better then not to nag! :D06:28
jussiwell played squidd06:29
squiddits the rum speaking :D06:29
squiddwe wait for a bit and it will start looking for a fight06:29
ejjomancoderus: okay, that should be enough time :P06:29
tortoisedocsquidd : it?06:30
squiddtortoisedoc: rum06:30
tortoisedocthe rum?06:30
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fogWraithwhy is the rum gone?06:30
tortoisedoccause squidd drank it :P06:30
fogWraithfigures :(06:30
squiddnot all of it!06:30
squiddjussi had some too with coffee06:30
jussitwas good06:30
* fogWraith shakes fist06:31
virtualdjussi björling06:31
fogWraithnow i have to visit the systembolag after work... or during lunch :P06:31
jussifogWraith: I have some port if you like :P06:31
fogWraithcome on over, then ;)06:31
jussivirtuald: huh?06:31
virtualdnah, just an association06:31
virtualdthe only jussi i know of06:32
squiddswedish tenor!06:32
jussivirtuald: obviously doesnt know many finns06:32
squiddjussi: well, I cant remember knowing anyone named jussi and I know many finns06:34
jussisquidd: its like almost the most popular name here....06:35
squiddit is? :D06:35
jussithing is, many people get called Jussi who are really some other longer name...06:36
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squiddyeah, that I know06:36
squiddwhat I dont understand is that someone named juha is called jussi06:37
jussisquidd: juha -> juhannus ->jussi06:37
squiddyeah, guess so06:38
jussime, Im just a random outsider that came and stole a finnish name06:38
jussiGuess living here for almost 10 years does that... :P06:38
fogWraithsteal ALL the names!06:39
squidddont steal mine06:39
jussifogWraith: shhh swedish person :P06:39
fogWraithmeh :(06:39
fogWraithat least you're forced to take a course of our fine language during school06:39
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squiddyeah caused me to dislike swedes even more :P06:41
fogWraithawww ;)06:41
squiddwasnt too good at sweden in school, think i ended getting 5 from it06:41
fogWraithoh, those weird grades... you must be old? ;)06:42
squiddoh nope06:42
fogWraithi think we had a similar grading system in the 40's? :o06:42
fogWraithNow everything is getting americanized06:43
* jussi is now confused about squidd06:43
squiddhow so?06:43
jussiI have been squidded!06:43
squiddwhats confusing your tiny mind06:43
jussisquidd: in whioch land you were edumacated?06:44
fogWraithwe cant all be winners ;)06:45
jussifogWraith: yeah, we feel for you :P06:47
jussifogWraith: unfortunately you were not educted in this great land :D :D06:47
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fogWraithmeh :P06:47
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jussisquidd: you were educated in Finland, and yet you know nobody of the name Jussi...?06:48
coderuszchydem_: how is your daughter's health?06:49
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fogWraithQuest for the Village without a Jussi!06:49
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squiddjussi: no, no one06:50
squiddno one with actual name jussi06:51
jussisquidd: well now you do... me.06:51
squiddi know few juha06:51
jussisquidd: now think about this... how many finns do you know with a name startign with J...06:52
fogWraithOh! Oh! i know ONE Juhani!06:52
* fogWraith feels so proud06:52
squiddi know quite few06:52
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fogWraithi also think that the finnish national anthem should be switched out for pomppufiilis by that munamies thingamajig06:54
Thybomoi moi y'all06:55
fogWraithits a happy little tune06:55
coderusthp: QClipboard->mimeData() not working at all.06:55
coderusthp: check please for proper copy/paster fix06:56
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fk_lxcoderus: hehe that's what I was also missing in fingerterm - copy/paste from other places06:58
fk_lxI guess it's still not possible to copy/paste from browser06:59
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coderusi have experience with mozembed and can add copy/paste to browser, but need to finish mitakuuluu first :)07:03
fk_lxcoderus: would be great :-)07:03
squiddcoderus: you will never finish mitäkuuluu07:04
Thybowhats mitakuuluu?07:05
squiddyou must keep developing it07:05
squiddfor lomg time07:05
Nicd-Thybo: it's a native whatsapp client07:06
Thyboahyaaaaa ok07:07
Nicd-coderus: I for one want to thank you so much for all the hard work you've done with mitakuuluu :)07:07
Thybothank god he didn't create whatsap07:07
Thyboimagine the thing07:07
Thyboud be sayin07:07
Thyboill mitakuuluu u07:07
Thyboinstead of07:07
Thyboill whatsapp u07:07
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Nicd-I like mitäkuuluu, but maybe because I'm Finnish :P07:08
Nicd-coderus: I installed 0.2-6 to replace 0.2-2 and now I have to reregister07:10
Nicd-but it worked fine and now I'm back in07:11
coderusat least there are not much missed functions left07:13
Nicd-I lost all of my conversation history though07:13
coderusi'll push all sources to opensource after implementing all functions07:13
coderusand can go to new project then :)07:13
Nicd-nice :)07:13
coderusNicd-: thats sad, but its mandatory database drop07:15
coderusmajor changes, i can't fix all regressions on the fly07:15
Nicd-ok, I understsand07:15
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coderusbut in v0.2-6 you can use old saved database, it will fix database if can, or drop all tables if cant :D07:17
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Nicd-how can I do that?07:17
coderusif you have saved whastapp.db you need to shutdown and replace file07:18
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Nicd-ok, maybe I'll just start from scratch, I didn't really have anything important there anyway so no harm done :)07:18
coderusi should do it in early  versions, but forget :D07:19
* coderus means database tables upgrade07:19
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thpcoderus: commented08:04
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coderusthp: updated08:09
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olidadudegood morning guys :D08:10
Sfiet_Konstantinmorning guys08:16
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thpcoderus: thx, will do a test build to see if copy'n'paste works. looks good now, code-wise08:19
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ouafnicoI'm searching how to join Early Sailfish OS Adopters ?09:07
Sfiet_Konstantinping sledges09:07
tbrouafnico: message sledges09:07
tbrgive him your email address and info which device you have and how you can help09:08
ouafnicookay thanks :)09:08
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Sfiet_Konstantinmorning faenil_09:09
faenil_Sfiet_Konstantin, o/ how you doing mate :)09:10
ouafnicodo you knwo how to mail him ?09:10
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil_: courses09:10
Sfiet_Konstantinbut easy ones09:10
Sfiet_Konstantinso rather cool :09:10
faenil_Sfiet_Konstantin, :) you finish in April right?09:13
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Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil_: yep09:14
faenil_Sfiet_Konstantin, cool stuff, no thesis eh :D09:14
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vans01HI. I'm glad to be able to use Sailfish on my Nexus 4 and to test and report possible bugs...09:27
ouafnicoa lot of people are :)09:27
ouafnicoask Sledges09:27
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vans01Btw. The cell netwrok name is visible, I see some WiFi networks too... But, can't connect to the internet, neither through mobile network, nor via wifi.09:28
vans01Does anybody know, could it be due to fact, I've wiped prevoius data, or smth else?09:29
vans01*I've _not_ wiped09:29
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sledgesvans01: WPA2 Enterprise WLAN (user/pass pair) is not supported09:30
sledgesdo you have any open/WPApersonal APs?09:31
vans01sledges, hm... But what about wpa personal?09:31
vans01I do.09:31
sledgesthose should work09:31
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sledgeswhat happens when you click on an IP?09:31
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vans01sledges, when I tap AP there is a message: "Connection error" or smth. like it. I can just have look for exact message.09:33
sledgesvans01: it should ask you for password09:33
sledgesare you doing it via Settings->System->WLAN->(pulley)->Connect to Internet ?09:33
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vans01sledges, it should, but doesn't.09:34
vans01sledges, yep, right hat way.09:34
Yanielis this the same bug there was with the first version that if you typo the password once it will not  ask again?09:34
sledgesYaniel: nexus4 is running
vans01sledges, btw, should I do some wipe from recovery?09:34
sledgesvans01: you can, and then reinstall sailfish again09:35
sledgesbut that problem should not give you WLAN at all09:35
vans01I mean, I've had Cyanogen installed for some time before flashing Sailfish09:35
vans01sledges, ok, I'll try.09:35
sledgesvans01: are there any APs in the memorised list?09:35
sledgesvans01: cm 10.1.3 ?09:36
vans01sledges, may be, there is smth. with wpa_supplicant. May be I have saved networks from previous installations.09:36
vans01Yep, there are some09:36
sledgesforget them ;)09:36
vans01sledges, may be I could just rm wpa_supplicant.conf? But... Do i have terminal to do it? O_o09:38
sledgesvans01: long tap on AP09:38
sledgesand choose Forget09:38
vans01Oh... Just that easy ^_^09:38
sledgesi wasn't joking you see ;)09:39
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vans01Oops, long tap does nothing... Seems the network isn't saved one... Ok, I'll just wipe, no reason to not to do it.;)09:41
sledgesvans01: in the bulleted list of APs09:42
Mnsuis the n4 sailfish ready for "daily" use, or missing some very obvious stuff? don't have the device, just curious09:44
vans01Mnsu, there is image
vans01According to it there are some parts missing for daily use.09:45
sledgesMnsu: vans01:
NoGyyou are missing the wireless charging column ;)09:47
sledgesNoGy: good point ;) and it just works :D09:47
* sledges remembers Nokia N9 FM radio made possible entirely by the community :))09:48
NoGyone of the few times where it really is not a bug, but a feature09:48
Mnsuvans01: sledges: thanks09:48
sledges(and discovered)09:48
vans01sledges, Magick! I've done nothing, but now it asks for pass for the ap. And connected....09:49
vans01Dark magick of few reboots and clicks09:49
sledgesvans01: miraculous! ;)09:49
sledgeswhat's your wlan router?09:49
vans01But I was ready for it - this is "development software. This is not production quality". )) Kinda beta test.09:50
vans01sledges, some soho Zyxel Kintetic09:51
sledgesta, put a note09:51
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vans01ok, btw, I have no other router somewhere near, but I'll try some open APs later.09:57
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sledgesthanks, great field testing vans01 :)10:04
vans01sledges, no prob., nice to be helpful a bit.10:05
vans01btw, Is there a reason to make jolla account? Is it "a must" for something?10:06
Yanielto access jolla's app store10:07
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vans01Yaniel, of course, yep...10:07
vans01that should be obvious for me >_<10:08
sledgesvans01: store is disabled on nexus4 now ;)10:08
sledgeswhere did you find "a must" bit? :)10:08
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vans01sledges, I mean to activate/access some services.10:08
sledgesthey should all be disabled10:08
sledgescould you tell me where you found those?10:09
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sledges(email says, jolla account/store is not available in this release)10:09
vans01well... I have a look...10:09
sledgesthanks again for helping ;)10:10
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fzksledges: ill try out some wpa2 enterprise on i9305 when it comes out10:12
sledgesfzk: thanks, but it's a known bug in sailfish, hardware independent10:13
sledgeswe have a ticket about it on together.j.c10:13
vans01sledges, well... If I tap any previously installed (in Cyanogen) android app10:13
sledgesvans01: that means you had to wipe ;)10:14
vans01there is a screen10:14
sledgesand didn't follow email ;)10:14
vans01asking for account10:14
sledgescan't support you there :)10:14
vans01sledges, ok, ok, I see10:14
sledgesbut thanks for pointing out, android apps bring that up10:15
vans01I've meant that there is way to access account creation screen.))10:15
sledgesi'll keep in mind10:15
sledgesyep ;)10:15
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fzksledges: ah ok, ill submit any findings there then10:18
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sledgesfzk: email kindly asks you to submit them here pls10:18
sledgesim just commenting on your finding ;)10:18
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sledgesapologies about confusion, but jolla is not sailfish ;)10:20
fzkah yes, i forgot that for a moment10:20
sledgesthink about Dell and Linux example ;)10:21
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sledgeswe are thrilled to introduce more devices running sailfish, but since those are early stages, bug reporting is focused here10:22
fzkokay, perhaps should have bugtraq10:22
sledgesuntil proper infrastructure is built for rock solid releases10:22
sledgesfzk: im putting all what you say into a bugtraq10:22
sledgeswill be used against you10:23
sledges(enough jokes for this morning :D)10:23
fzksledges: i c, ill msg any findings with logs when i start testing then10:23
sledgessure, thanks fzk !10:24
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olidadudesledges when does the second wave come?10:27
olidadudewill this have a updated version of the jolla zip?10:30
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sledgesif you are already registered, yes10:31
olidadudewhat will be the improvements? what is your progress?10:32
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jussiolidadude: is the stock market going to go up or down? :D10:34
sledgesolidadude: good10:35
olidadudejussi: do you mean that's the same akward question?... I think not10:36
stephgwill my house be reposessed if I don't keep up my mortgage repayments?10:37
fzkfor fun, somebody should add to sailfish as language of the swedish dialect from närpiö in finland, all swedes would go crazy :-)10:37
olidadudesledges: cant you say what you're working on to get fixed?10:37
fzkprobably best to wait and see10:38
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coderuscan i get gstreamer help there?10:40
coderusjolla-mediaplayer cant play some aac files:10:40
sledgesolidadude: calls audio ofc10:41
olidadudecalls is nice. yesterday someone called me and i answerd but there was a awkward silence the whole time :D10:43
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sledgesas long as it's not TOH, all good ;)10:44
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olidadudeby audio you mean audio jack? Cause audio worked for me just fine :D10:45
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Stskeepssilly question, how are you guys creating jolla accounts on n4..?10:46
Stskeepsand where do you read it10:46
sledgescalls work, who needs audio? ;)10:46
Stskeepsi thought i nuked it quite well10:46
sledgesStskeeps: keep reading backlog ;P10:46
sledges12:13 < vans01> sledges, well... If I tap any previously installed (in Cyanogen) android app10:46
Stskeepsi'm in a train, tldr10:46
sledges12:14 < vans01> there is a screen10:46
sledges12:14 < vans01> asking for account10:46
Stskeepssledges: doh10:46
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Stskeepswell, another case of people not reading my email10:47
sledgesyou have all time on your hands on a train, no? ;)10:47
Stskeepsyes but not a good internet connection10:47
sledgesyes, i already told that to vans01 ;)10:47
* sledges reminds Stskeeps that this channel is logged10:48
sledgesnot that you said something bad ofc10:48
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* Stskeeps mumbles :)10:48
jussiis there a prize for finding places that it asks for the jolla creds?10:49
sledgesbeer is always a prize10:49
Stskeepssze plank10:49
stephgI like beer10:49
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jussistephg: me too!10:49
sledgesbut probably not for -every- findings category :))10:49
sledgeswalk the plank Stskeeps ? :))10:50
olidadudewhat you could use the apps you previosly installed on the cm you flashed? :O Doesn't the Jolla account still block you?10:50
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stephgcompletely trivial thing, on boot if the battery is full you get a notification that charging is complete10:51
stephg(even if it's not plugged in)10:51
jussianyone here know when the next hack day in Helsinki is?10:52
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Ni-ColaSorry, anyone can help me? I want to join early adopters with my Nexus 5!10:53
sledgesstephg: thanks :)10:53
sledgesolidadude: no android support10:54
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sledgesNi-Cola: pm me your name and email and why :)10:54
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coderusAAC Bug at TJC:
coderuscheck/vote please10:54
CvPsledge any free give aways? :)10:54
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sledgesCvP: it's free10:55
CvPbut what? :)10:55
Ni-Cola<sledges> ok I will do10:55
sledgesCvP: the image10:56
Ni-Cola<sledges> I have some trouble in PM via webchat, I will do by irc client10:56
sledgesNi-Cola: type /msg sledges hi10:56
vans01Sorry if I missed that info, what's the username for ssh connection?10:58
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jussithink it was nemo10:58
vans01I'll try...10:58
jussiyeah, read the email again10:58
jussisection entitled: To SSH into your device via USB (Linux)10:59
joonahoiNi-Cola: judging by the comments (and the problems people are having), listing "ability to read" as one of the reasons will give you a huge advantage11:00
jussijoonahoi: :D11:00
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vans01omg, my bad.11:00
* vans01 going to re read it 3 times11:00
sledgesjoonahoi: it's ok to save his time by giving out one irc command , instead of having him reading the whole irc manual now11:01
coderusits time for #sailfishandroid channel? :D11:03
Stskeepscoderus: at some point11:04
Stskeepssailfishos isn't only sdk :)11:04
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NoGyIs there any way to keep the device from entering sleep mode except having a charger plugged or a crude console hack?11:07
jussihrrr, my daughter has disappeared with my n4... I cant find it. :/11:07
Stskeepsmcetool might do it11:07
Stskeepsjussi: you installed sailfish and now it's suddenly more attractive?11:07
jussiStskeeps: something like that11:08
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squiddjussi: more rum?!11:10
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jussisquidd: yes please11:10
* squidd passes the bottle11:10
coderusStskeeps: but its more general discussions than specific android adaptations :)11:12
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jussiFound it! Under her bed...11:12
jussi(actually I asked my wife where it was, would never of found it otherwise) :P11:13
squiddwifes rock! :D11:13
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joonahoisledges: yeah, I was referring more into the difficulties people have a) reading the email by Stskeeps or b) understanding what they just read11:15
jussibtw, what is the little thing that looks like a angled egg timer on the left of the time? (idle screen)11:15
stephgyeah mobile data?11:15
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stephgjoonahoi, I think it's because people are/were excited11:15
joonahoiyup, its mobile data up & down indicators11:15
joonahoistephg: i know11:16
Yanieltwo triangles indicating activity11:16
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sledgesjoonahoi: Ni-Cola is very new person, let's make him feel welcomed11:16
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joonahoiYeah, I'm sorry, was just trying to be funny, the awkward finnish way11:16
jussiYaniel: stephg ok, I guess. bit cryptic, but ok :D11:17
sledgesjoonahoi: np peace :)11:17
stephgjussi, you don't have a jolla?11:17
jussistephg: only the N411:17
squiddJOLLA \o/11:17
stephgah that'd be why you're not familiar with the icons11:18
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jussistephg: My bank account had a fit when I told it I wanted to buy one.11:18
stephgI'm sure if you asked her nicely she'd have let you ;)11:19
jussiIm actually suprised how damn smooth this is. very nice work11:19
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squiddstephg: pretty sure that doesnt work11:21
joonahoijussi: check it applies to sailfish only for some parts too11:21
joonahoieg. the icons and such11:21
jussijoonahoi: hey, Im a 30 something male - do you seriously expect me to read a user guide? :P :P :P :P11:22
Stskeepspeople don't even read emails these days11:23
stephgmeow lol11:23
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olidadudelel script not activated i think :( sad story11:30
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stephgon the n4: presume this counts as 'sensors' but landscape no worky in browser11:31
sledgeshe's not here11:31
Stskeepsstephg: if you switch orientation manually, it does11:32
stephgah so yeah, sensors11:32
stephgthis is tough you know, lots of it works :)11:32
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jussiapps ftw :D11:43
Lafianyone tried to install sailfish on Galaxy S ? Is it possible?11:46
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tbrLafi: does it run CM10.1?11:48
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vans01btw, I prefer cm10.1 over cm10.2 personally. 10.2 made huge battery drain (for my setup), may be it's something related to curent setup or due to some software, but there was no such problem with 10.1.(2,3)11:58
vans01so I have flashed 10.1.3 after giving a try for 10.211:59
vans01and finally flashed sailfish))11:59
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DevauxThank you for the Mako image :)12:00
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petersen77Can't wait for a i9305 image ;-)12:01
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jussihrm, onyone know if there is an elisa viihde application for sailfish?12:04
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jussi(there is an open client for android)12:04
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Sequencedjussi: yes there is. goviihde12:09
Sequencedin jolla store12:09
jussiSequenced: ok, thanks. Ill go try find an RPM somewhere12:10
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coderusany dirty hackish whatever way to load html code to WebView dynamically, not with file/url?12:25
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stephganyone know if the meecast devs hang around here?12:27
jussihrrr. can you get rpms from the jolla store somehow? google not turning much up for goviihde rpm12:28
leszekcoderus: isn't there the html: option available ? So html: "<html><body>Your content</body></html> ? At least it was there in qtwebkit 1.012:29
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coderusleszek: in WebKit 3 no12:40
coderusi solved it by loadHtml function12:40
leszekah ok. Interesting12:41
leszekloadHtml function has a couble more features12:41
coderusstephg: no12:41
stephgah cool, thx coderus12:41
stephgthey have many many resolution dependent things :)12:42
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_aortmannhi :)13:00
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sledgeshello :)13:01
sledgesand welcome!13:01
sledges_aortmann: pm me more details about you pls13:01
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DevauxVolume control doesn't work in the mako-Build13:03
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jussiDevaux: seems to work for me... ?13:06
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jussihi bentz!13:11
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Devauxjussi: Hmmm. I get a lot of Notification sounds from Google13:14
DevauxEven when it's muted, it had the same volume13:14
DevauxGoogle Messenger13:14
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jussiyeah, I dunno about notifications, but when I put this one too silent, the clicks from pulley menus disappear13:18
sledgesDevaux: we mentioned something about notification sounds yesterday, will check the backlog13:18
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netzviehjussi: "hrrr. can you get rpms from the jolla store somehow? google not turning much up for goviihde rpm" -> pkcon -d install "rpm-name", that puts it to /var/cache/zypp/packages/$repo/rpms/13:20
Devauxsledges: ok :)13:20
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netzviehjussi: you'd need the store working though13:21
jussinetzvieh: ahh excellent. No I just have to go bother the brother inlaw and steal his Jolla13:22
jussiUnless someone here wants to get me the goviihde rpm....13:22
Nicd-jussi: just a sec13:23
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netzviehhmm the path is only valid for the store repo, but it's always /var/cache/zypp/packages/$repo somewhere under this folder :)13:25
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jussiNicd-: thanks very much... ill give it a go :)13:27
natoriousN4 possible issues found last night:13:29
natoriousWeb Browser13:29
natorious- Should auto complete url based on history, bookmarks, or common interests13:29
natorious- Url bar ‘X’ should clear url and focus cursor13:29
natorious- When typing new url in existing tab, net tab label is displayed13:29
natorious- In new tab screen, favorites is misspelled13:29
natorious- Double tap to zoom page does not work13:29
natorious- Gmail account stuck at updating when web pages load fine?13:29
natorious- Missing audio feedback from volume rocker13:29
natorious- Display orientation setting appears to do nothing13:29
natorious- Ringtone slider doesn’t preview spund13:29
natorious- Device lock not setting13:29
natorious- Not able to enable untrusted software13:29
natorious- Mobile data counters not increasing13:29
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netzviehnatorious: display orientation und device lock are mentioned in the mail iirc13:30
Nicd-favorites misspelled?13:30
natoriousnetzvieh: didn't see it listed13:31
natoriousthe display orientation from sensors obviously wouldn't work13:32
natoriousbut, overriding the setting to landscape should13:32
netzviehnatorious: favourites is spelled fine. its british english13:32
sledgesjust like harbour ;)13:32
natoriousI somehow managed to hard lock last night but, don't have steps to reproduce13:33
Nightmare__colour :D13:33
sledgesnatorious: great work, thanks \o/13:33
Nicd-natorious: you misspelled natorios ;)13:34
jussioh, this is a disappointment - seems go viihde doesnt support actually watching the stuff.13:34
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sledgesnatorious: some of the issue are in jolla phone too, will report those all by kicking the concerning parties ;)13:35
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netzviehset time bc it didn't work yesterday13:43
netzviehfor one minute and after dunno 10 minutes it now rings13:43
netzviehand the display stays off -.-13:44
sledgesnetzvieh: timers fall under the non-working 'alarms' category in the email ;)13:44
netzviehsledges: i know ;) but it's still fascinating13:45
sledgesthe bug?13:45
netzviehthat it rings after ~10 minutes13:45
netzviehand the display stays off13:45
sledgeslol yea ok13:45
sledgesjust in case you wouldn't be too late anywhere :D13:46
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carepackhope jolle is getting bigger than nokia. to show them that they made a mistake letting meego die.13:58
coderusplease help!!! how can i go offline in google talk with sailfish built-in google account?13:58
coderusi want to go offline on my phone and receive messages to my desktop only :)13:58
Nightmare__coderus, notificationscreen, pulldownmeno,statusinformation, set to offline13:59
sledgesNightmare__: you mean show presence details ?13:59
jussiis there some sort of media player plugin for the Jolla browser?13:59
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Nightmare__maybe :) i use it on german14:00
sledgesjussi: on n4 we were happy it showed html5 video and sound on out of box :)14:00
jussisledges: :D14:00
sledgesthe rest is up to gstreamer plugins onboard i guess14:01
sledgeshaven't dived in there14:01
jussisledges: Im attempting to get the eliisa viihde stuff working - it needs VLC plugin on Ubuntu, so I guess Im looking for the equivalent14:01
sledgesbecause on jolla i sometimes see flash video plugin look-alikes, but i see dead people too, so..14:01
jussisledges: :D14:01
sledgesjussi: ask on #jollamobile14:01
jussisledges: ok  fair point, thanks14:02
sledgeshow they use eliisa14:02
sledgeson jollas14:02
sledgesor also ask Nicd- ;)14:02
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Nicd-jussi: I don't  watch it on my phone14:06
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jussiNicd-: oh :(14:07
Nicd-I can barely look at short videos on youtube, the screen is just too small for anything more :P14:07
Nicd-tried watching movies on my 13" laptop earlier, just got a headache14:07
jussiI like to watch <1h shows on my galaxy note.14:08
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Nicd-I only use goviihde for setting recordings14:08
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Nicd-it's convenient for that14:08
jussiyeah, i can imagine.14:09
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coderusNightmare__: i see no offline here. only online and dont disturb14:13
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coderusah found it, thanks14:14
coderusstatus information14:14
coderusalways missing that menu item :D14:14
coderusthat helps me a lot, thanks :)14:14
Nightmare__i'm not happy with that label too14:14
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jussisledges: WRT the power button not working sometimes item (in the email list) it seems it actually is pretty consistent that is doesnt work on a short press, but works on a longer press.  (or maybe harder press)14:26
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jussiNot a long difference, but kinda like the difference if you press on a capacitive touch screen vs a resistive14:27
natoriousI noticed the notes export via email didn't seem to produce a valid vnt file.  Tried copy/pasting the contents of the file into a vnt/txt converter and also decrypting with base64 which was a tjc solution but, didn't work14:27
natorioushave the source file if needed14:28
vans01strange... seems cellular network connect but no internet.... According to the email ,it should work, shouldn't it14:28
sledgesnatorious: could someone on that tjc ticket verify that?14:28
jussialso, is there a reason the tutorial thing stays in your menu ?14:29
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sledgesjussi: yes if you want to show to friend to get around :)14:29
natorioussledges: possibly, I can post nfo there14:29
jussisledges: ok. Just noticing that most other systems hid that somewhere after first run14:30
sledgesvans01: you most likely need to set APN manually14:30
vans01sledges, yep. I'd like to... but where?14:30
* vans01 should read more manuals14:30
sledgesvans01: settings-system-mobile internet14:30
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sledges*mobile network14:30
sledgeslong press on the first bullet (with arrows fav icon)14:31
sledgesyou'll see edit14:31
vans01I've thought it's usb connection only...14:31
vans01oops, I see....14:32
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sledgesnatorious: link to that ticket pls?14:36
sledgesnatorious: great thanks14:37
natorioushere is the contents of the vnt file I noticed this on too14:38
vans01sledges, now I have mobile iternet, great. Works quite smooth, cool14:40
SpeedEvilBring back OSS!14:41
natoriousany plans on mako supporting lte?14:43
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natoriouslooks like these radios support it14:45
sledgescan't say really14:45
sledgesnatorious: notes taken, ta14:45
coderuswaht is name of text selection handlers?14:46
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NoGynatorious: they don't support all LTE channels. Supporting it would not work for all countries/providers, so you end up with a lot of bogus bug reports.14:46
coderusmeans name of icons14:46
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natoriousNoGy: if its just a matter of flashing the modem/radio, I might give it a try and see if it plays nice.  Imagine I could flash back to the CM 10.1.3 ones after14:49
NoGynatorious: wasn't the 4.2.2 release the one with hidden LTE setting which google removed in a later release?14:52
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natoriousNoGy: not sure, I'm new to the n4.  In that xda post the provided radios enable band 4 on 4.2 though14:53
NoGyI have no LTE data plan, so I never went for it :) I just remember there was sth. like that14:54
natoriousthe t-mobile n4 supports 3g/hdspa+/lte14:54
natoriouson sailfish it seems to only pull 3g speeds14:54
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flotronsledges: the main bug i found is the touch, sometimes i need to swipe from side to side to minimize an app and sometimes just a 50% swipe work14:59
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flotronmaybe depends of the swipe speed?15:01
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sledgesflotron: on the swipe edge :)15:08
sledgestakes a bit of getting used to15:08
sledgesalways should be enough 30% of width to minimise app15:09
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flotronok, i thought it would be the same as n9. Good to know15:19
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flotronAnother thing is that sometimes left edge swipe doesnt work, and i have to edge-swipe from right15:23
sledgesflotron: try holding phone in another hand15:24
sledgesif your palm touches the screen, swipe is interrupted15:24
flotronis not that  i tried with one finger with the phone on desk, for ex is happening now with irc app15:25
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flotroni can video the bug if you want15:27
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flotronnow that i lock and unlock is start to work again, but then same happens15:30
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sledgeshmm, are you sure you are swiping from the very very edge? flux15:39
sledgess/flux/flotron who disappeared/15:39
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NoGyargh, you screwed me. I now miss swipe gestures in android16:30
leszekEveryone I know who used android before said that16:31
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Mnsuyeah, those gestures become to feel so natural very quickly :)16:33
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stephghe sledges what do you have in your bugtracker for sleepy things on the n416:36
stephgit does so much sleeping that xmpp don't alert16:36
* stephg now has a lovely stereo effect for new messages, jolla one side, n4 the other16:37
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kimmoli_sailing3.0 audio ...16:44
sledgespulseaudio 4.0 ;)16:52
sledgesstephg: so you mean sync doesn't work when sleeps?16:53
stephgsomeone sends me a jabber message16:53
stephgboth n4, and jolla are 'sleeping'16:53
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stephgthe jolla will notify immediately16:53
stephgthe n4 will notify only when I wake the screen16:53
stephgis what it looks like16:53
sledgesok, noted down ;) thanks!16:53
stephglike it's sleeping too deeply16:53
sledgeswhat about emails?16:53
stephgpass, not set my mail up16:54
stephgwill do that now16:54
specialdoes it notify if you wait (up to) 2.5 minutes after receiving the message, without touching anything?16:54
* sledges afk a bit o/16:54
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stephgspecial, will do that now16:54
stephgone sec16:54
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special(the device wakes every 2.5 minutes to ping IM servers; it should be waking on network traffic too, but apparently isn't)16:55
sledgesstephg: one sec is too short16:56
* sledges ducks16:56
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StskeepsNoGy: now imagine if we had added double tap to wake up16:56
Stskeepserr.. ok, i was scrolled up like hell16:56
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stephgspecial, looks like it is a length of time but it does notify16:57
stephglet me do again and time it16:57
Stskeepsstephg: fwiw i'm not sure suspend is 100% good on n416:57
stephg(this is actually a reply from a misbehaving app that doesn't honour the device-specific xmpp stuff16:57
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stephgStskeeps, I'm sure there's lots of oddness16:58
stephghence wondering if there were other sleepy things going on16:58
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* stephg message sent16:59
* stephg n4 notifies 56s after message sent17:00
* stephg jolla did it within ~1s17:00
stephgmay not be 'broken', but it behaves differently to the jolla17:01
Stskeepsit might just be sleeping too deepily17:01
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* stephg now working on the next important thing, getting this installed on the servers for tuesday:
Stskeepsstephg: we should be logging in journal when we sleep17:09
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stephgStskeeps ok cool17:10
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Stskeepsnatorious: thanks for good reports17:15
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Stskeepsflotron: that might factually be a sailfishos general bug17:15
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yournameoh, shit17:16
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squiddTHATS BETTER :D17:16
stephghalf way there :)17:16
squiddsomething like that17:16
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stephgStskeeps all I can see out of the box in the journal is the display dimming then sleeping17:21
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stephgmay need to up the logging if that's possible, I don't know very much about the systemd journal yet17:22
Stskeepshmm, ok17:22
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stephgentirely probably me not doing something right17:24
stephganyway, pub, see you guys later17:24
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coderuscan you give me info how to put my application logs to journal?17:33
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specialit will just happen if you're launched by something under systemd - including lipstick and boosters17:34
kimmoli_sailingsee tohkbd17:34
kimmoli_sailingcoderus: ^17:35
kimmoli_sailingbut y, that starts under systemd17:36
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coderuskimmoli_sailing: ^^ ??17:41
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kimmoli_sailingjust that journal logging....17:42
kimmoli_sailingbut need to start with systemd afaik17:43
kimmoli_sailingprintf goes then to journal17:43
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kimmoli_sailinghow about sd_journal_print ?17:46
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coderuswhat is  it?17:53
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locusferror: #error "You must build your code with position independent code if Qt was built with -reduce-relocations. " "Compile your code with -fPIC or -fPIE." <- any ideas about this error? Comes while compiling another homescreen18:07
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antoniolatianosomeone know how to install mp3 codec to our very awesome sailfish installation?18:12
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locusfif I do add -fPIC then it errors out like this:
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mike7b4_jollahi all, testing irc on sailfishos :)18:20
leszekmike7b4_jolla: nice ;)18:20
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mike7b4_jollashame cant use in 3g mode since op does not allow port used by irc :/18:21
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sledgeslocusf: mb2 ?18:41
locusfsledges: yes18:42
carepackmike7b4_jolla: which irc client? the one I#ve tried can't save server settings18:42
sledgeswhich homescren?18:42
locusfsledges: glacier-home18:43
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sledgesbut it worked yesterday18:43
jpnurmicarepack: can't save server settings?18:44
locusfyeah worked ok just before18:45
sledgeslocusf: hmph cache?18:45
locusfsledges: which one?18:45
locusfI make cleaned18:45
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sledgesmb2 clean18:45
sledgesis better18:46
locusfno clean18:46
locusfprints usage18:46
sledgesmb clean then :D18:46
locusflol that worked18:47
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carepackjpnurmi: yes. I'm using this irc client and can't add for example freenode as a server .
jpnurmicarepack: have you tried the one available in store?18:48
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locusfsledges: but nothing happened, it just hanged18:48
sledgeslocusf: worth informing lbt about this (on #mer)18:48
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locusfsledges: ok18:48
* sledges continues afk \o18:48
carepackjpnurmi: no. sailfish on n4.18:50
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carepackjpnurmi: thx a lot ;-)18:51
jpnurminp :)18:51
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carepackanother question. I'm on N4. Warehouse showing me a lot of updates. But I can't select them all. I have to manually update every single package. Is an terminal command for it? Or is it not recommend to update?18:53
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M4rtinKcarepack: "zypper up" should do19:00
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carepackM4rtinK: thx19:03
carepackis working19:03
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flotroncommand to refresh desktop?20:05
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Almindoris there a class/method in Qt5/sailfish/QML to format numerical seconds value into something like 1 day 5 hours 34 minutes 5 seconds?20:23
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suyAlmindor: try with QTime::addSeconds for starters20:27
stephggood evening20:27
Almindorsuy, but that doesn't give an interval string as output, QTime gives 12:54:40 or such20:27
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suyAlmindor: I think KDE had something like this. Probably has been introduced, but I can't recall now. A quick look to QLocale gives some possibilities.20:30
suy*introduced to qt in 5.x, i mean20:30
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Shin_NeMeSiSthe early n4 rom works great, but i found that the text in the search boxes is misaligned20:35
stephgShin_NeMeSiS, where?20:36
stephggot an example?20:36
stephg(or steps to reproduce?)20:36
Shin_NeMeSiSin openrepos warehouse for sailfish app for example20:36
stephganything in any of the default apps?20:37
stephgthe 3rd party apps may not deal with the screen resolution20:37
stephgmeecast forexample doesn't?20:37
Shin_NeMeSiSno, the default apps work great, but i miss music playback :)20:37
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suycoderus: this is more or less what I've done successfully for logging to the journal at work:
suyqt 5.3 will have native support, fortunately20:39
Shin_NeMeSiSis there a way to install the missing codecs or activate music playback in the media player?20:40
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stephgShin_NeMeSiS, assuming the media player works (dunno if it does) you may be able to sideload the codecs from the jolla repos20:46
stephgbut they probably can't be 'distributed'20:46
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stephgcan anyone quickly remind me how to take a screenshot via dbus20:53
stephgif not, sledges lbt Stskeeps tbr or special got an odd case on the n4 with notifications of double messages on xmpp20:54
stephggoing to bed now but my notification screen shows 8 new mails (fine), 15 new messages and 13 new messages20:55
stephgwill be a mixture of FB and xmpp but the probably should be one consolidated list20:55
stephganyway *really* going to bed now20:55
Accedbus-send --type=method_call --dest=org.nemomobile.lipstick \ /org/nemomobile/lipstick/screenshot org.nemomobile.lipstick.saveScreenshot string:"$filename"20:57
Accemaybe? it's from the mailing list20:57
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M4rtinKAcce: BTW, is dbus-send pre-installed ?21:04
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AcceM4rtinK: seem so, as I have it21:11
Acceand I haven't installed much extra packages21:12
M4rtinKAcce: looks like a nice harbor friendly DBUS interface21:12
M4rtinKAcce: at least for simple stuff like screen blanking control21:12
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Accemhmm, although why not just use the Qt's dbus interface classes?21:13
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sledgesstephg: to bed? it's just 9:30pm ;)21:40
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G-RayJust tried sailfish OS on my N4 ! I have to say WOW !! I really like the gesture based UI concepts !22:44
Hartziso you never tried nokia n9?22:45
satmd n9+sailfish... I still need a guide to _replace_ the existing os22:45
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G-RayWhen Sailfish OS source code should be published ?22:48
Hartzimost of it is already public. Only UI is closed atm22:49
G-RayYeah, I mean UI22:50
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G-RayWhy Jolla's team focused on an old android release to port Sailfish N23:00
sledgesG-Ray: at the start of the project cm10.1 was around and stable, it was too much risk to go for anything less-explored23:03
sledgesand we leave the porting to any newer cm(android) fun to the community23:04
sledgesit won't be complicated, but needs to be done, meanwhile we concentrated on release23:04
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G-Raysledges: Is there dev doc to build our own ? I would like to conrtibute :)23:18
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sledgesthat's the 3rd deliverable we'll do G-Ray ;)23:51
G-RayIt Seems I can't download any app from my Nexus 4 ?23:54
sledgesG-Ray: sideload RPMs23:55
sledgesor install warehouse23:55
sledges(by sideloading an RPM ;))23:55
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