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| virtuald | GOD MORGON GOD MORGON | 04:00 |
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| tbr | good moaning | 04:31 |
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| Stskeeps | zzz | 05:03 |
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| coderus | Can i get Sailfish.Media/MediaKey 1.0 Sources somehow? | 05:44 |
| Stskeeps | if c++ not that likely, have you checked if qml files aren't in file system? | 05:47 |
| coderus | i need c++ code to implement it myself :) | 05:49 |
| coderus | checked disassembly of mediaplugin | 05:49 |
| coderus | it seems to require QWindow to catch keys | 05:49 |
| coderus | i wanted to make process handling keys with no window... | 05:50 |
| Stskeeps | probably difficult | 05:50 |
| Stskeeps | as keys are sent related to that | 05:50 |
| coderus | okay, need to make patch for lipstick-pandora then to make my ideas internal. | 05:53 |
| Stskeeps | as a general note you don't want to overload the compositor too much with functionality | 05:54 |
| Stskeeps | what's in there is already too much :) | 05:54 |
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| squidd | Stskeeps: time to optimze then! | 06:47 |
| squidd | too much is too much | 06:47 |
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| * lpotter wonders how to debug an app that crashes only when run by clicking on the desktop icon | 09:15 | |
| tbr | replace the desktop execution call with a gdb wrapper or such? | 09:17 |
| tbr | or a strace | 09:17 |
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| merlin1991 | hm tbr whatabout signing the chum repo? and related, is there any convenient way to add the chum repo in such a fashion that it changes url with the sailfishos version? | 09:35 |
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| tbr | merlin1991: that's a question for lbt not for me | 09:41 |
| merlin1991 | wtf is going on, i did zypper ar http://repo.merproject.org/obs/sailfishos:/chum:/1.0.4.20/1.0.4.20_armv7hl/sailfishos:chum:1.0.4.20.repo | 09:41 |
| merlin1991 | then I can see chum in zypper lr, but as soon as I zypper ref the repo vanishes from zypper lr and I can't install packages ... | 09:41 |
| tbr | from my brief looking into OBS signing (for different reasons) it looks like it's not exactly trivial to have things signed by different keys | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | merlin1991: you should probably use ssu ar | 09:42 |
| tbr | merlin1991: it's "ssu ar chum-u4 http://repo.merproject.org/obs/sailfishos:/chum:/1.0.4.20/1.0.4.20_armv7hl/" | 09:42 |
| merlin1991 | but why would the ssu plugin in zypper kill my repo added by zypper, that's silly | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | well | 09:43 |
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| thp | M4rtinK2: yep, $APPNAME is always with the harbour-prefix (for harbour apps), more generally the RPM package name | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | zypper isn't there by standard ;) ssu manages the repositoies | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | +r | 09:43 |
| M4rtinK2 | thp: ok, thanks for the clarification :) | 09:43 |
| merlin1991 | but the zypper repo syntax is soo much more convinent ;) | 09:43 |
| thp | merlin1991: if ssu updates zypper's repo list, (ssu ur), it overwrites whatever was there | 09:44 |
| thp | merlin1991: doesn't ssu ar http://repo.merproject.org/obs/sailfishos:/chum:/1.0.4.20/1.0.4.20_armv7hl/sailfishos:chum:1.0.4.20.repo work then? | 09:44 |
| M4rtinK2 | thp: oh, so that's what is eating my repo files :P | 09:44 |
| merlin1991 | thp: didn't try, went zypper first ... | 09:44 |
| tbr | repeat after us: zypper is not the right tool on sailfish | 09:44 |
| merlin1991 | the best thing is that it even asks about the unsigned metadata for the chum repo when doing zypper ref, only that it vanishes afterwards | 09:45 |
| merlin1991 | tbr: next you're telling me I should get used to pkcon ;) | 09:45 |
| tbr | merlin1991: why yes of course, because that _is_ the package manager... :-รพ | 09:46 |
| merlin1991 | does pkcon have a flag for "do not refresh the software list for the 9k time today"? | 09:46 |
| merlin1991 | I'm looking at you thp ;) | 09:48 |
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| merlin1991 | hm trying to find the ssu source isn't exactly easy neither google with site:github.com nor the github search are realy helpfull | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | https://github.com/nemomobile/ssu | 09:53 |
| merlin1991 | thanks | 09:54 |
| thp | merlin1991: well, it usually doesn't do that except if you have to (add a repository - that repo needs refreshing, etc..) | 09:54 |
| thp | ssu has some nice features such as automatically making sure your hw adaptation repos are added, etc.. | 09:54 |
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| merlin1991 | btw I've been wondering since day 1 what that "home" repo is with user honeybadger | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg | 09:58 |
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| william_ | hi | 10:04 |
| william_ | all | 10:04 |
| faenil | hi! | 10:04 |
| william_ | I am a sailfish lover in China | 10:06 |
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| william_ | how about the sailfish os for nexus 4 now? | 10:09 |
| william_ | I flashed sailfish os on my nexus 4 | 10:14 |
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| Guest25302 | Hi guys! Could u help me to install a text/file editor (like nano and gedit) to my Jollas terminal? | 10:19 |
| william_ | maybe others can help you | 10:20 |
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| merlin1991 | Guest25302: there is vim ;) | 10:25 |
| Guest25302 | ahh maybe I should learn to use it ;) | 10:25 |
| merlin1991 | but also nano is available | 10:25 |
| merlin1991 | pkcon install nano should be enough since it's in the jolla repo | 10:26 |
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| merlin1991 | Guest25302: if you're wondering how to search for packages, "pkcon search name SOMEPACKAGE" | 10:27 |
| Guest25302 | Okay thanks :) | 10:27 |
| william_ | who know when will the next rom for nexus 4 published? | 10:27 |
| Guest25302 | Okay, I'm pretty newbie here in nemo world :) (Used debian 4 yrs) | 10:28 |
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| merlin1991 | thp: do you remember what we did exactly to bootstrap a sailfish 1.0.4.20 sb2 target starting from the mer sdk vm? | 10:29 |
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| APTX | so | 11:38 |
| APTX | is there any solution to "connection timed out" in the sailfish sdk? | 11:39 |
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| kaltsi | aptx, if I remember you had problem with the timeout to your device, to which you connect via wifi? | 11:43 |
| APTX | yes | 11:43 |
| APTX | I still can't connect via the sdk | 11:43 |
| kaltsi | aptx, the problem may be that the device "goes to sleep" shutting down the wifi radio | 11:43 |
| APTX | it works with ssh | 11:43 |
| kaltsi | if your display is not on when you try to deploy from sdk, it might be sleeping.. try to keep it on just to test it | 11:44 |
| APTX | the screen is on, I'm connected via ssh and the sdk still says timeout | 11:46 |
| APTX | is it possible to increase this timeout? | 11:46 |
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| kaltsi | hm let's try something else.. the deploy goes from the MerSDK virtual machine via ssh to the device, could you login to MerSDK and try ssh from there to see if that works? | 11:47 |
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| kaltsi | https://sailfishos.org/develop-faq.html tells how to login to the "build engine" or MerSDK | 11:49 |
| kaltsi | what is your host machine btw? linux/mac/win? | 11:50 |
| APTX | windows | 11:51 |
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| kaltsi | the faq doesn't explain how to login to mersdk with windows.. bah | 11:52 |
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| APTX | so I did connect to mersdk | 11:55 |
| APTX | and... it asks if I want to add the fingerprint, then hangs | 11:55 |
| kaltsi | asks when you ssh to device? | 11:55 |
| kaltsi | if you do ssh -v -v -v -v -v etc, will it tell you anything more useful? | 11:56 |
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| APTX | ... I went away for a bit and it's asking for the password | 12:01 |
| APTX | so it just seems to be really slow | 12:02 |
| APTX | and I'm in | 12:03 |
| kaltsi | interesting.. sadly there's just a hard coded 30 second connection timeout ther if I recall correctly, but that slow doesn't sound usable anyways | 12:03 |
| APTX | it times out much sooner than 30s | 12:03 |
| kaltsi | hmm I wonder.. there's some timeout in the device settings | 12:04 |
| APTX | I can paste ssh -vvvv outlput | 12:05 |
| kaltsi | check your device settings first.. I don't remember what the timeout was there for | 12:05 |
| APTX | my... device settings? | 12:05 |
| kaltsi | in qt creator | 12:05 |
| kaltsi | you've added the device to qt creator somehow.. | 12:06 |
| kaltsi | that same place where you added it should have settings | 12:06 |
| APTX | no I haven't | 12:06 |
| kaltsi | umm | 12:06 |
| APTX | after adding it tries to deploy ssh keys and it times out | 12:06 |
| APTX | and the device never appears | 12:07 |
| kaltsi | duh, that could have been useful info :) | 12:07 |
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| kaltsi | try again and set a longer timeout there | 12:08 |
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| thp | merlin1991: start with normal sdk sb2 target, add repos from device, then dup? (roughly) | 12:08 |
| APTX | kaltsi: that worked... | 12:09 |
| kaltsi | \o/ | 12:10 |
| APTX | I do wonder why it's so slow | 12:10 |
| kaltsi | thp: can you somehow dup gently? | 12:10 |
| thp | kaltsi: last time merlin1991 and i did this, it somehow worked (basically we needed a newer version of libsailfishapp-devel that contained the i18n stuff) | 12:11 |
| thp | or we added the repos referred to by the chum obs target or something | 12:12 |
| kaltsi | meeh.. just joking with roughly vs gently :p | 12:13 |
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| kaltsi | APTX: with ssh -v -v.. can you see where it spends all the time connecting? | 12:15 |
| thp | kaltsi: damn! i didn't get that :p | 12:16 |
| kaltsi | aptx, maybe some component wants to resolve MerSDK/SailfishSDK hostname to something and fails with a timeout | 12:16 |
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| APTX | kaltsi: http://pastebin.com/3MXrkk5x | 12:18 |
| kaltsi | aptx is there a way to add timestamps to log output.. that doesn't show the passage of time | 12:19 |
| APTX | I don't really know, but it's inside the mer sdk... | 12:19 |
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| kaltsi | ok.. well unfortunately that log output doesn't tell me any clues | 12:21 |
| kaltsi | APTX: if you want to try one thing.. that would be to add SailfishSDK to your windows host file.. basically the host file tells that a hostname like X has an ip address Y | 12:23 |
| APTX | http://pastebin.com/Fnzh15su added timestamps | 12:24 |
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| kaltsi | ok 10 second timeout there hmm | 12:24 |
| kaltsi | APTX: in case you're not familiar with hosts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_(file) | 12:25 |
| kaltsi | in this case I'd add the line | 12:25 |
| kaltsi | 127.0.0.1 SailfishSDK to the file %SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts | 12:25 |
| kaltsi | and then try again | 12:25 |
| kaltsi | if it doesn't help, just remove the line | 12:26 |
| kaltsi | or the location of that file depends on your windows version, but I hope you're not using windows 3.1 or 95/98 :) | 12:27 |
| APTX | windows 8.1 and it doesn't seem to be changing anything | 12:28 |
| kaltsi | ok, thanks for testing anyways | 12:29 |
| kaltsi | http://superuser.com/questions/62060/why-does-the-password-prompt-take-forever-when-i-ssh-into-my-ubuntu-9-05-serve | 12:30 |
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| kaltsi | how about trying to add SailfishSDK to your device's /etc/hosts file | 12:32 |
| kaltsi | ahh maybe not a good idea.. that would not work | 12:32 |
| kaltsi | http://ayaz.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/usedns-resolution-and-openssh/ | 12:33 |
| kaltsi | I don't know if any of those are relevant.. quite old articles | 12:33 |
| APTX | how do I login as root on the device? | 12:33 |
| APTX | I can't check the sshd config otherwise | 12:33 |
| kaltsi | you need to login as nemo and then use: devel-su command to make yourself root | 12:34 |
| kaltsi | just: devel-su | 12:34 |
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| merlin1991 | thp: the actual reason was python3 | 12:46 |
| merlin1991 | since the sdk python3 has no ssl module | 12:46 |
| merlin1991 | but yeah, iirc rsync sb2 target from mersdk vm to local machine, duplicate settings in ~/.scratchbox2 for new target, remove ssu repos, replace with 1.0.4.20 repo and zypper dup | 12:47 |
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| APTX | kaltsi: it still asks for a pasword | 12:52 |
| APTX | oh, it's the rot password you set | 12:53 |
| APTX | kaltsi: I added UseDNS no and it no longer waits 10 seconds | 12:56 |
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| artemma | Anybody who knows about ambianced here? | 13:39 |
| artemma | I am calling setAmbience and it works just fine for ambiences I already used in the past. For new pictures, it updates background, but doesn't change highlight colors in UI (seems it changes them in gconf though) | 13:39 |
| artemma | if I first call generateAmbience and setAmbience later, everything works just fine, but naturally photo gallery is polluted with one more photo in Ambienced album, I'd like to avoid it. To do it just as if you selected "Create Ambience" for a random photo in gallery | 13:41 |
| * artemma stares at dbus-monitor output trying to understand the difference | 13:41 | |
| kaltsi | APTX: wow so it worked? glad to hear.. I have to scribble this to my notes | 13:43 |
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| cl0e | hi, not sure is this is the right place to ask, but does anyone have an opinion on wheter its already worth having a go at installing sailfish on the sony xperia Z ? has anyone had a shot at this. thanks | 14:18 |
| tbr | depends on your definition of "worth it" | 14:19 |
| cl0e | well will the basics still work, i.e. email, phone, sms :p | 14:20 |
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| tbr | ah, you want a ready install. No, you'd need to work out the hardware adaptation layer yourself first, based on CM10.1 | 14:22 |
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| cl0e | hmm, so im guessing the answer would be to wait :s | 14:23 |
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| tbr | or to roll up your sleeves and dive in. Kernel and hardware plumbing experience required, tho. | 14:24 |
| cl0e | do you recon people are going to start porting for mainstream devices soon | 14:25 |
| tbr | how much more mainstream than Nx4 and SGS3 does it get? | 14:25 |
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| tbr | There is a hw-adaptation-kit due soon though | 14:25 |
| cl0e | not much i guess | 14:25 |
| tbr | so we're probably going to see more devices | 14:25 |
| cl0e | il look out for that | 14:26 |
| cl0e | just didnt know i might wanna try sailfish when i bought my phone :p | 14:26 |
| cl0e | ok thanks for the tip | 14:26 |
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| boggins | hello, I have trouble getting sensible magnetometer information from my Jolla. | 14:51 |
| boggins | readingChanged() is triggered, but the QMagnetometerReading does not contain sensible values, and never changes | 14:51 |
| boggins | Is this something that is just not working yet? | 14:52 |
| Stskeeps | android or qt api? | 14:52 |
| boggins | Qt | 14:52 |
| Stskeeps | and what sailfishos version? | 14:52 |
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| boggins | 1.0.4.20 | 14:53 |
| boggins | Qt 5.1 for Mer | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | ok, please ask that same question on the sailfish devel mailing list | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | the guy who can answer isn't around atm | 14:53 |
| boggins | ok thanks | 14:53 |
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| APTX | what's the best thing in silica to use as a number input field? | 15:24 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | APTX: Text field with specific keyboard | 15:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | APTX: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-textfield.html#inputMethodHints-prop | 15:31 |
| APTX | keyboard would be... inputMethodHints: Qt.ImhDigitsOnly ? | 15:31 |
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| APTX | would I also need a validator? | 15:33 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | APTX: yes, not sure | 15:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | better put a validator though | 15:46 |
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| taixzo | Does anyone know how I can connect to an https server from a PyOtherSide application? The version of Python 3 in the Jolla repositories seems to have been compiled without SSL, and same with cUrl. | 18:00 |
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| fk_lx | taixzo: that is supposed to be fixed in future - I'm sure I've read that somewhere | 18:36 |
| taixzo | fk_lx: is there some workaround I can use for now? My app relies on an API that is only accessible over HTTPS. | 18:36 |
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| fk_lx | taixzo: dependency on openssl was added https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/python3/commit/bbe3f602812fee5aaa0cfad093b8d12937b91054 | 18:38 |
| fk_lx | taixzo: I guess you could build newer package from this repo https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/python3 | 18:39 |
| taixzo | fk_lx: right, but I'd like to avoid forcing users to install that too | 18:40 |
| fk_lx | taixzo: then I guess you need to wait and ping guy with nick thp | 18:41 |
| taixzo | ok | 18:41 |
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| Guest27668 | Guys, how can I use bluetooth (4.0) in my Sailfish App? | 20:01 |
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