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| william_gen | devel-su to root,you will can use zypper | 02:20 |
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| stapler | is it possible to run sailfish on the nexus 5? | 05:35 |
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| stephg | morning | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | morn stephg | 08:20 |
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| dirkvl | hi! it seems the charging current display is no longer in the 'csd' menu | 08:21 |
| dirkvl | where can i find it now? | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | Sage-: ^ | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | you might be better off asking not during easter ;) | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | you can probably find it in /sys worst case scenario | 08:23 |
| dirkvl | k | 08:26 |
| dirkvl | thanks | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | dirkvl: any thoughts in this direction: https://twitter.com/YvesPE/status/456948073969631232/photo/1 | 08:27 |
| stephg | I did like that | 08:27 |
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| dirkvl | stskeeps: you would like me to build that? | 08:29 |
| dirkvl | that is beyond my capabilities at this point ;) | 08:31 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe, no, just if you had any interesting TOH ideas | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | i wonder if we could make a phone-less TOH interface | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | kinda like a device that's connected, but doesn't have screen, just TOH on the back.. | 08:34 |
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| SpeedEvil | Sailfish on n900? http://www.dx.com/p/mini-n900-capacitive-touch-screen-android-4-3-bar-phone-w-4-7-bluetooth-gps-white-312206 | 08:41 |
| SpeedEvil | More seriously - it would be great if it was easy to get these various devices running sane OSs. But porting alas makes this impractical. | 08:42 |
| SpeedEvil | I mean - there is no reason the above couln't be a perfectly fine home automation node. | 08:42 |
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| stephg | Stskeeps: that's actually a great idea, releasing the phone from the wall would require some thought though | 08:55 |
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| Nicd- | SpeedEvil: I remember a while back they were actually selling a Nokia N900 Mini | 08:58 |
| Nicd- | and "real" Nokia N900s with some chinese symbian knockoff | 08:59 |
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| pp | Sure it was nokia, it could have been Nokla | 09:02 |
| tbr | of course, they are all KIRFs | 09:02 |
| pp | http://www.2dayblog.com/2007/05/04/the-nokla-n95/ | 09:02 |
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| Sage- | dirkvl: hmmp... there should one under "Power" that you can check the charging current | 09:19 |
| dirkvl | it was | 09:20 |
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| dirkvl | it was under the discharging test | 09:20 |
| dirkvl | but that has changed | 09:21 |
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| Sage- | ah, there has been some minor changes there. But the info should still be there :) | 09:22 |
| dirkvl | it now has a 'low power' test and 'high power' test | 09:22 |
| dirkvl | nothing about milliamps | 09:22 |
| * Sage- rechecks | 09:23 | |
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| Sage- | yes, the discharging test actually now does what is should and tests couple of scenarios how much power is consumed atm. in micro amps (without charging) | 09:25 |
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| Sage- | actually we dont show those numbers while chargin anymore, will ask adding those to some test or similar. The fact that it was shown before was a bit accidental, thus it got lost. | 09:27 |
| dirkvl | that is a pitty, it was very usefull | 09:29 |
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| Sage- | dirkvl: filed task about readding it to some page on csd :) | 09:31 |
| dirkvl | thanks! :) | 09:31 |
| Sage- | thanks for bringing it up, didn't realize it disappeared :) | 09:32 |
| dirkvl | haha i only just found out | 09:33 |
| Nicd- | pp: they were both sold as actual Nokia phones. the "real" ones looked just like the actual N900 (might've been stolen/discarded cases from the factory with different internals) | 09:34 |
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| stephg | Sfiet_Konstantin: re: Friends and integration | 09:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | stephg: yep ? | 09:35 |
| stephg | is it possible to have the Sailfish FB notification Posts button go to Friends? | 09:35 |
| stephg | (or is that on the Jolla side and unchangeable by you) | 09:35 |
| stephg | it drives me potty that it launches the browser | 09:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | stephg: not changeable, but I'm planning to push my own notifications (ie I'm writing a daemon too) | 09:36 |
| stephg | oooh shiny :) | 09:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I also want to have an account integration, but I wonder how I will do this ... | 09:37 |
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| kempe | This might be an obvious question but i can't seem to get it to work. is it to have a Label vertically centered inside an BackgroundItem? | 09:47 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | kempe: anchors.centerIn ? | 09:57 |
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| kempe | Sfiet_Konstantin, well that is both vertical and horizontal | 10:00 |
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| Acce | kempe: anchors.verticalCenter: parent.verticalCenter | 10:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | kempe: yep | 10:03 |
| Nightmare__ | or if it's not a child of that BGItem: anchors.verticalCenter: [backgrounditemID].verticalCenter | 10:03 |
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| kempe | Acce, yeah i just found it did not think of it becouse i thougt verticalCenter was a read only, but of course not when its anchors | 10:04 |
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| qwazix | arghh I will kill myself, is there any reason why a script would run from terminal (as user) but not from a desktop file? The script just touches /tmp/test | 10:12 |
| stephg | contents of the desktop file? | 10:13 |
| qwazix | let me explain it in full | 10:14 |
| qwazix | I'm trying to force tweetian to work with multiple twitter accounts | 10:14 |
| stephg | roight | 10:15 |
| qwazix | I noticed that if I launch it like this HOME=/home/nemo2 /usr/bin/harbour-tweetian | 10:15 |
| qwazix | (ofc /home/nemo2 exists) | 10:15 |
| qwazix | it uses a seperate datadir so it just does what I want | 10:15 |
| qwazix | so I copied the normal tweetian desktop file and changed the exec line | 10:16 |
| qwazix | I tried Exec="HOME=/home/nemo2 /usr/bin/harbour-tweetian" | 10:16 |
| qwazix | I tried Exec=sh -c "HOME=/home/nemo2 /usr/bin/harbour-tweetian" | 10:16 |
| qwazix | I tried Exec=bash -c "HOME=/home/nemo2 /usr/bin/harbour-tweetian" | 10:16 |
| qwazix | I tried Exec=tweetian-other-account | 10:17 |
| qwazix | where tweetian-other-account is in /usr/bin, has the +x bit and contained the above line | 10:17 |
| qwazix | then I commented that out and added touch /tmp/test to see if the file is being created, but it doesn't | 10:18 |
| stephg | touch or /usr/bin/touch (just a thought) | 10:18 |
| qwazix | let me try /usr/bin/touch too | 10:18 |
| stephg | well from looking at the .desktops here it shouldn't matter | 10:19 |
| qwazix | touch is in /bin, so I'll try /bin/touch | 10:19 |
| stephg | yep sorry, :q | 10:19 |
| stephg | gah | 10:19 |
| qwazix | argghh cat: /tmp/test: No such file or directory | 10:20 |
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| stephg | just tried something similar and it doesn't work for me either | 10:25 |
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| qwazix | stephg, thanks | 10:30 |
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| qwazix | now at least I feel less stupid | 10:31 |
| stephg | hey I'm no guarantee of lack of stupidity | 10:31 |
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| qwazix | it's too hard for two people to do the exact same stupid mistake | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | HOME=/home/nemo2 is bound to well, blow up things.. :P | 10:34 |
| qwazix | oh, hi Stskeeps | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | moo\ | 10:36 |
| qwazix | why blow up things? | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | uses .files likely | 10:36 |
| qwazix | if I create a whole new nemo2 user and launch with su? | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | even worse, /run/user/100000 and permissions | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | wayland socket, as an example, or pulseaudio | 10:38 |
| qwazix | oh... | 10:38 |
| stephg | it's the /bin/touch thing that is a bit odd for me | 10:38 |
| qwazix | well, I'll try with the HOME= approach and I hope you guys did a good work with recovery :P | 10:38 |
| stephg | haha | 10:39 |
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| rubdos | If I'd make a chatting application for Sailfish, what API's can I use to integrate into the system? Eg. integrate into the contact list or (chat) messages? | 14:05 |
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| tbr | rubdos: I'd recommend to write a telepathy plugin, that way it will integrate seamlessly into the whole system | 14:18 |
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| rubdos | tbr, telepathy contacts will be in the contactlist too? | 14:18 |
| tbr | rubdos: that said there is a significant chance that whatever you want either exists or is easy to adapt. note that also pidgin/purple plugins are accessible through telepathy-haze | 14:18 |
| rubdos | but that's something I didn't think about indeed | 14:18 |
| tbr | correct | 14:18 |
| rubdos | great | 14:19 |
| rubdos | That makes a lot of things really clear to me :) | 14:19 |
| rubdos | Thank you very much :D | 14:19 |
| * tbr still has Lync/SIPe on his todo list | 14:19 | |
| william-gen | yes | 14:19 |
| tbr | it's pretty trivial through telepathy haze | 14:19 |
| tbr | no problem, happy to help | 14:19 |
| Yaniel | how will it integrate btw | 14:20 |
| rubdos | tbr, no really, that's really appreciated. I was thinking about it for about two days now... 'telepathy' is a magic word here lol | 14:20 |
| Yaniel | usable via the messaging app or so? | 14:20 |
| tbr | Yaniel: correct | 14:21 |
| william-gen | sailfishos on n4,opened wifi can not be joined | 14:21 |
| tbr | rubdos: that's why I'm happy to help and throw people the right keywords | 14:22 |
| Yaniel | and using the default messaging method as specified in contacts | 14:22 |
| tbr | Yaniel: the only thing that would need to be custom made would be the account UI | 14:22 |
| Yaniel | nice | 14:22 |
| tbr | but enterprising users will just use mc-tool ;) | 14:22 |
| rubdos | tbr, I'd say I'll donate something to Jolla now. But I already spent 840 euro's yesterday on the company ;p | 14:23 |
| Yaniel | is it possible to respond to messages via the same API they were received from? | 14:23 |
| Yaniel | ie someone sends SMS but default is xmpp | 14:23 |
| Yaniel | how would one respond with SMS | 14:23 |
| william-gen | ea2. | 14:23 |
| Yaniel | william-gen: tell more about your problem? | 14:23 |
| tbr | Yaniel: not sure about that, didn't pay attention | 14:27 |
| * merlin1991 wants newer sqlite in sailfish | 14:27 | |
| merlin1991 | starting with 2014-02-03 (3.8.3) sqlite supports common table expressions ... | 14:28 |
| tbr | merlin1991: that's something you can contribute, offer your help to get it into mer:core | 14:29 |
| merlin1991 | it's used everywhere, which I guess is the reason why the package in mer:core still ist at the version debian-stable has | 14:29 |
| tbr | possibly, but if nobody does it, it won't happen | 14:31 |
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| merlin1991 | true, I'll ask around in #mer for the correct process when I find the time | 14:32 |
| artemma | What is the way to set silence on/off? | 14:48 |
| * artemma got tired from waking up from email beep at night | 14:49 | |
| Yaniel | pulley on the lock screen? | 14:49 |
| artemma | I mean what's the API for it, I forget doing it manually :) | 14:49 |
| Yaniel | oh | 14:49 |
| artemma | though maybe it is more of a nemo part.. will ask there as well | 14:49 |
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| tbr | artemma: tried looking at dbus yet? | 14:57 |
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| artemma | tbr: I suspect I could dig it out from DBus monitor, but decided to ask community while cleaning cooking - comunity usually helps faster :) | 15:00 |
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| artemma | What often happens is that some nemomobile persons just remembers proper component name by heart | 15:00 |
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| kimmoli | artemma: http://pastebin.com/MeQjJXSU | 15:08 |
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| netzvieh | a bit late, but I like the new build for the mako :D are the numbers in the demo image all real? ^^ | 15:18 |
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| artemma | kimmoli: thanks | 15:36 |
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| artemma | kimmoli: so Jolla's Silence is actually switching profiles between "silent" and "general", hmm | 15:38 |
| artemma | so.. no other profiles planned I guess | 15:39 |
| artemma | Sailfish OS way for storing app settings is QSettings in a file, right? | 15:40 |
| artemma | Not meego-style gconf? | 15:40 |
| kimmoli | dunno | 15:40 |
| artemma | that is I think gconf was recommended meego style for settings | 15:40 |
| kimmoli | this was just something i recalled that i have found and tested once. retested it now after Sfiet_Konstantin segfaultings.. | 15:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: QSetting is simple and efficient | 15:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | why use gconf ? | 15:43 |
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| artemma | Just asking abt the proper ways | 15:44 |
| artemma | I have some meego-times code for gconf | 15:44 |
| artemma | and QSettings... I'll want to wrap it for QML | 15:45 |
| artemma | not sure why QML Qsettings is not a part of Qt yet | 15:45 |
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| sharefree | sup | 19:28 |
| Umeaboy | Nothing much. | 19:29 |
| Umeaboy | Can't wait until the official image for i9305 gets released. | 19:29 |
| Umeaboy | :) | 19:29 |
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| sharefree | Umeaboy, cool | 19:32 |
| sharefree | me too | 19:32 |
| sharefree | but what is i930? | 19:32 |
| Umeaboy | Never herd of it. | 19:33 |
| Umeaboy | Or did you miss a number? | 19:33 |
| Umeaboy | :) | 19:33 |
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| Umeaboy | i9305 is the modelname of Samsung Galaxy SIII 4g (LTE) | 19:33 |
| Umeaboy | sharefree: ^^ | 19:35 |
| sharefree | heh | 19:37 |
| sharefree | Umeaboy, I am think about buying a revolution phone | 19:37 |
| Umeaboy | Buy the Jolla-phone. :) | 19:39 |
| Umeaboy | It even comes with Sailfish as standard. | 19:39 |
| Umeaboy | :) | 19:39 |
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| sharefree | Umeaboy, but sir not available here | 19:41 |
| sharefree | Umeaboy, why do you love jolla over android / | 19:42 |
| Umeaboy | sharefree: Multitasking and freedom to a 100%.. | 19:45 |
| Umeaboy | :) | 19:45 |
| Umeaboy | Android can't beat that. | 19:46 |
| Waitee | imo just feels much nicer than android | 19:46 |
| sharefree | Umeaboy, wow but android's custom rom are better i think like CM | 19:47 |
| sharefree | ok | 19:47 |
| Umeaboy | sharefree: Android is still a shell. | 19:47 |
| Umeaboy | Not a full Linux-system. | 19:47 |
| sharefree | yeo | 19:47 |
| sharefree | Killer point | 19:47 |
| sharefree | :] | 19:47 |
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| sharefree | but can we do all most everything on Sailfish OS | 19:48 |
| Umeaboy | Yes. | 19:48 |
| Umeaboy | Everything except cooking and cleaning. | 19:48 |
| Umeaboy | :) | 19:48 |
| joonahoi | well, you can order a pizza or a cleaning service, so i think we have those covered | 19:49 |
| Umeaboy | Yeah. | 19:50 |
| sharefree | wow | 19:51 |
| sharefree | We need a HD phone now with Sailfish OS | 19:51 |
| sharefree | Sailfish on Samsung Note 2 = blast then | 19:51 |
| Yaniel | a highend phone yes | 19:51 |
| Yaniel | and then laugh as it puts laptops to shame :D | 19:52 |
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| joonahoi | the current one sits pretty comfortably in my device array | 19:52 |
| sharefree | Octa core + Full HD 5" or more + 2+ Gigs of Ram + 3000 maH+ battery + Sailfish OS = I m popeye the Sailor man I am popeye the sailor the sailor im popeye the sailor man ... pooooooo poo | 19:53 |
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| joonahoi | < less powerful --------------- wheeeeeeee > | 19:55 |
| joonahoi | < jolla - tablet - laptop - desktop machine > | 19:55 |
| joonahoi | < at hand -------------------- gotta get to > | 19:55 |
| sharefree | heh | 19:55 |
| joonahoi | calculate the correct device per use | 19:55 |
| joonahoi | :D | 19:55 |
| sharefree | Wow I think Jolla is going to be the next most powerful mobile OS | 19:56 |
| joonahoi | *sailfish os | 19:56 |
| sharefree | ya | 19:56 |
| sharefree | Sorry | 19:56 |
| sharefree | Sailfish OS | 19:56 |
| joonahoi | and yes, I agree. everything on my tablets (both android and apple) feel so restricted compared to the phone | 19:57 |
| sharefree | I think even Google's version of Android is prop. | 19:57 |
| sharefree | So either root android like CM without google apps or no android at all | 19:57 |
| joonahoi | i just feel so at home with linux | 19:58 |
| Yaniel | no android at all sounds much easier | 19:58 |
| sharefree | Yaniel, Do you mean you like android more ? | 19:58 |
| joonahoi | or well, not linux itself, even though the kernel is really good, but in posix environment with gnu tools available in general | 19:58 |
| Yaniel | I mean no android at all sounds much simpler than rooting an android phone and using it without google services | 19:59 |
| Yaniel | and no I like sailfish more | 19:59 |
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| sharefree | Yaniel, support your statement - no i like sailfish more | 20:01 |
| Yaniel | well | 20:02 |
| Yaniel | using my jolla does not feel much different from using my computers - all are more or less unix'y | 20:03 |
| Yaniel | except the jolla has an awesome touch UI | 20:03 |
| Yaniel | with android I'd have to root it before doing anything interesting | 20:03 |
| Yaniel | and the UI still can't hold a candle to sailfish | 20:03 |
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| sharefree | Yaniel, but sir like I said custom android rom like CM without google apps = Done ! | 20:09 |
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| Yaniel | but why bother | 20:12 |
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| sharefree | Yaniel, good point but what is a phone comes root without google apps then ? | 20:14 |
| Yaniel | if it is an android phone, not muxh | 20:14 |
| Yaniel | much* | 20:14 |
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| sharefree | Yaniel, good you select as Patriot Yolla! | 20:20 |
| sharefree | :] | 20:20 |
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| doneill | hi all. | 21:08 |
| doneill | would i be drawn and quartered if i asked about the nexus 4 image? | 21:08 |
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| sharefree | hi | 21:20 |
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| jtjj222 | The latest ea image is running beautifully on the n4. Great work! | 22:53 |
| flotron | can i modify the display refresh rate of my n4? | 22:56 |
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| jtjj222 | Is there a way to disable the developer software message? It is so incredibly enraging to see such a beautiful design ruined by the obnoxious watermark. | 23:01 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.5-1 Pre-release. Translations: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/mitakuuluu2/ Download: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/releases Bugs: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/issues | 23:31 |
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