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coderus | manqeloque: it doesnt | 08:14 |
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manqeloque | what does this clause mean "Before switching from official clients to Mitakuuluu you need to go to Account settings and remove account from server. If you already installed Mitakuuluu go to Settings - Account - Delete everything." ? | 08:16 |
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coderus | so you switching to mitakuuluu from official whatsapp client? | 08:22 |
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manqeloque | yes | 08:36 |
manqeloque | i have the official client on my ipad, and i was wondering if it's possible to use mitäkuuluu and the official client simultaneously | 08:36 |
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coderus | http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/general/21009863 | 08:58 |
coderus | refer to official whatsapp faq if you dnot know how application/service you using working | 09:01 |
coderus | dont* | 09:01 |
manqeloque | well ipad doesn't have a phone number anyway | 09:01 |
manqeloque | and the official whatsapp faq doesn't answer to the original question | 09:02 |
coderus | so you registered it with no phonenumber and chatting from the air? | 09:02 |
coderus | >> Your WhatsApp account can only be verified with one number, on one device. | 09:03 |
coderus | >> with one number, on one device. | 09:03 |
coderus | >> one number | 09:03 |
coderus | >> one device | 09:03 |
coderus | >> one | 09:04 |
manqeloque | i sideloaded the .ipa and it asked me to enter a phone number, so i entered the only number i have | 09:04 |
coderus | >> ONE | 09:04 |
manqeloque | wtf? | 09:04 |
coderus | this is faq you read and didnt found answer in | 09:04 |
manqeloque | so does mitäkuuluu require me to delete everything from the whatsapp server or does it not? | 09:04 |
stephg | coderus: I'm unclear on how many devices and numbers you can have ;) | 09:05 |
coderus | manqeloque: no it doesnt require | 09:05 |
manqeloque | ok | 09:05 |
coderus | just after activating mitakuuluu your ipad registration will be dropped automatically | 09:05 |
coderus | and after activating ipad again your mitakuuluu registration will be dropped | 09:05 |
coderus | and after activating mitakuuluu again your account will be blocked if you'll do it in near 3 hours. | 09:05 |
coderus | thats it | 09:06 |
manqeloque | okay | 09:06 |
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carepack | hi | 10:07 |
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squidd | hi mr coderus | 10:14 |
squidd | ops | 10:14 |
squidd | carepack: | 10:14 |
squidd | :D | 10:14 |
squidd | silly tabfail | 10:14 |
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theonlyandonecod | squidd: :D | 10:40 |
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Prometheus00 | So, is there anyone here that believes that Jolla will ever make a keyboard TOH? | 11:17 |
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Sail0r | hopefully they do :-/ | 11:23 |
Sail0r | but at the moment I do not believe so | 11:23 |
raa70 | what would the official keyboard have, that the community can't implement? | 11:24 |
Prometheus00 | I don't think Dirkvl will make many more of his keyboard | 11:25 |
Sail0r | official support | 11:25 |
Prometheus00 | Maybe one more batch if he is very nice but no more | 11:25 |
Sail0r | from SailfishOS itself and for the hardware part | 11:25 |
Prometheus00 | He is a designer, it isn't fun to sit making even 100 of the things | 11:26 |
Prometheus00 | I think he had fun with the first 10 or so :-) The rest are becoming a chore | 11:30 |
Prometheus00 | But he had to take up enough orders to be able to cover the costs of the manufacturing equipment | 11:30 |
Prometheus00 | And still they cost 100 € a piece, and often do not work really well (I am not complaining, he is working very hard at it, just stating facts of industrial manufacturing) | 11:32 |
Prometheus00 | kimmoli: Are you here? You know him quite well, am I right about this? | 11:35 |
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coderus | hello | 12:24 |
coderus | can anyone explain how images highlight working? | 12:24 |
kimmoli | Prometheus00: i'm here. Agree 5-10 first is fun. But dirkvl has now setup a websho with simpler stuff. I would see that when/if more kbds are to come, those are mfg little more pro than these now | 12:25 |
kimmoli | but, maybe there is tohkbd-mkII some day. never know. | 12:28 |
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Prometheus00 | We should for it! | 12:28 |
Prometheus00 | But still, I believe that community manufacturing can only be for prototyping and high enthusiast buyers | 12:29 |
coderus | hm, images highlight working only with image:// provider | 12:29 |
coderus | weird | 12:29 |
Prometheus00 | should *hope* for it, I meant | 12:30 |
kimmoli | es. when we talk about quantities < 10, i would go for dirkvl way, assembly and solder boards, self-3d printing | 12:32 |
kimmoli | in range of 10..100 i could imagine doing some final assembly my self, pcb assy outsourced, 3dprint outsourced | 12:32 |
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kimmoli | when going above 100 pcs, 3d print starts to be expensive but mold tooling costing are also still expensive per unit price. | 12:34 |
squidd | even with 1k the mould is expensive | 12:35 |
kimmoli | personally, i'm still looking right partner for the 3d print of toholed. I did outsource 50 pcs of pcb assembly already. | 12:35 |
M4rtinK | yeah, 3d printing is ideal for prototyping, small series and ad-hoc manufacturing | 12:37 |
M4rtinK | for really big series classic manufacturing techniques come out better | 12:38 |
kimmoli | few years back, it was out of question of making say 200 pcs of custom molded serial link or USB cables. But now you can do that, and price is reasonable. | 12:38 |
M4rtinK | on the other hand, many printers are partially self reproducing and no one says you can't have 10 of them :) | 12:38 |
M4rtinK | and some people do :) | 12:38 |
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kimmoli | yes, multiple printers are for saving time. they dont improve quality | 12:39 |
M4rtinK | yeah and those crazy chinese PCB shops | 12:39 |
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M4rtinK | kimmoli: exactly | 12:39 |
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M4rtinK | and the quality can also vary or prints can fail outright | 12:39 |
kimmoli | yep. | 12:40 |
M4rtinK | which could make a whole batch if printing multiple parts | 12:40 |
kimmoli | it took me 10+ testprints to get satisfactory output for the toholed protos | 12:40 |
kimmoli | which was at MWC and which are now out there on their happy owners. | 12:41 |
M4rtinK | still, good enough for Easter bunnies: http://www.melf.eu/zajic3d2014/ :) | 12:41 |
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kimmoli | :) | 12:42 |
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kimmoli | toholed print takes 4,5 hours each, so i will not print 50 pcs of those | 12:42 |
M4rtinK | low layer height & low printing speed ? | 12:43 |
squidd | why not? :D | 12:43 |
kimmoli | each rprint requires re-adjustment of printer to get the first layer nice | 12:43 |
M4rtinK | kimmoli: oh, we solved that :) | 12:43 |
kimmoli | iirc, doing at 0.15mm layers and 0.27mm extrusion width | 12:44 |
M4rtinK | kimmoli: http://www.melf.eu/zajic3d2014/20140411_009.html | 12:44 |
M4rtinK | or here a youtube video of a similar setup if that one takes too long to load: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_53XFVsgJE | 12:45 |
M4rtinK | the z prob si mounted on a servo and lowered for calibration before each print | 12:46 |
kimmoli | yep | 12:46 |
SpeedEvil | servos | 12:47 |
M4rtinK | it probes 4 points and computes not only height of the bed but also how level it is and compensates for it | 12:47 |
SpeedEvil | At least 3 likely | 12:47 |
M4rtinK | yeah, you need at least 3 | 12:47 |
SpeedEvil | Well, technically 2 | 12:47 |
SpeedEvil | But that'd be silly | 12:47 |
M4rtinK | but it can do an arbitrary amount in a grid for better readings | 12:48 |
M4rtinK | and works like a charm | 12:48 |
kimmoli | i manually calibrate with 4-5 points, adjust 3 setscrews. usually takes 1-2 minutes.. | 12:48 |
M4rtinK | nice thing is that you don't need to wait for the printer to warm up :) | 12:49 |
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M4rtinK | takes up to 15/20 minutes in our case for ABS (100 degrees Celsius) | 12:49 |
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kimmoli | heatup to 57 takes 10 min, and i need to calibrate after it, as the bed takes new shape | 12:52 |
M4rtinK | eventually we plan to setup Octoprint with a webcam, so that people can start & monitor prints remotely :) | 12:52 |
kimmoli | this is not so important when doing > 0.2 layers | 12:52 |
coderus | can anyone show me code for highlighting image as jolla theme image provider doing it? | 12:52 |
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M4rtinK | kimmoli: that's another nice thing about the automatic calibration - the printer does it after reaching working temperature | 12:53 |
kimmoli | uf we are stucking channel with OT.. hmm... when we have printer app on saifish ? | 12:53 |
M4rtinK | kimmoli: so as long as the temperature does not change much during print, the corrections should accurately follow current bed shape :) | 12:54 |
kimmoli | M4rtinK: yes that is good. maybe someday i have time to add such think (and dualhead) to my printer | 12:55 |
M4rtinK | kimmoli: well, if we had X server & USB host, the Jolla could very well control a 3D printer with Pronterface :) | 12:55 |
kimmoli | thinking something just remotely check/start/purge control over the net... with webcam view | 12:56 |
M4rtinK | kimmoli: just let me know and I can point you to the relevant STLs and instructions & firmware configs :) | 12:56 |
* kimmoli adds bookmark here | 12:57 | |
M4rtinK | well, just Octoprint on RPi/Cubieboard connected to the printer: http://octoprint.org/ | 12:57 |
M4rtinK | and you can control the printer from the Jolla browser :) | 12:57 |
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M4rtinK | kimmoli: oh, or this: https://github.com/foosel/OctoPrint/wiki/REST-API | 12:58 |
M4rtinK | kimmoli: and a Sailfish app using it :) | 12:59 |
M4rtinK | well, even though er are pretty off-topic, I think I see limitless possibilities :) | 13:00 |
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kimmoli | M4rtinK: yup. I have to resist this for now... got some work...play with tohkbd and obs going on | 13:04 |
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coderus | image://theme provider help needed, anyone? | 13:35 |
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meek_geek | guys does tor network work in Sailfish ? | 13:47 |
tbr | if you build and install it | 13:48 |
tbr | no idea if someone already did | 13:49 |
meek_geek | but it works in N900 | 13:51 |
Waitee | yepp | 13:51 |
Waitee | jolla != N900 but i cant see why it wouldnt work | 13:52 |
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meek_geek | Waitee, Tor's android app is better or N900 ? | 13:53 |
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coderus | lol | 13:54 |
Waitee | what has the N900 to do with anything sailfish? :D | 13:54 |
coderus | meek_geek: what the purpose of using tor for you? | 13:55 |
tbr | hardware runs software, film at 11! | 13:55 |
meek_geek | coderus, to run IRC via tor etc | 13:56 |
coderus | then you need tor proxy | 13:56 |
coderus | compile it yourself | 13:56 |
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coderus | you cant use android tor for that purpose in sailfish | 13:56 |
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coderus | how to apply highlight to custom QImage? | 13:59 |
M4rtinK | Waitee: well, without N900 there would not be Sailfish :) | 13:59 |
Waitee | i believe without 3310 there wouldnt be sailfish | 14:00 |
Waitee | still they're two totally different devices :D | 14:00 |
Waitee | though N900 is closer to sailfish than nokia 3310 | 14:00 |
M4rtinK | and I still manage to support them with common codebase :) | 14:01 |
M4rtinK | (now 3310 :)) | 14:01 |
M4rtinK | *not | 14:01 |
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Almindor | hey, the phone doesn't seem to be able to handle 8GB SD card, i get this dmesg error: http://pastebin.com/v4xv8Eck | 16:59 |
Almindor | seems like a kernel/driver problem? | 16:59 |
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meek_geek | Almindor, yo | 17:01 |
Nicd- | my SD card is 16 gigabytes and works without problems | 17:01 |
Nicd- | possibly something wrong with the filesystem or the card itself? | 17:02 |
Almindor | nah works fine in android phone | 17:02 |
Almindor | also this is a device error | 17:02 |
Almindor | before it even populates /dev with it, I can't even partition it | 17:02 |
coderus | Almindor: recreate partition table? | 17:03 |
meek_geek | I think there is some problem with jolla phone the n | 17:03 |
Almindor | coderus: how? there's no device for it, the kernel errors out | 17:03 |
Almindor | coderus: I can try to do that once I gat a micro->SD adapter on my desktop I guess | 17:03 |
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leszek | hi | 18:12 |
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sledges | hi | 18:43 |
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rubdos | Is C++11 supported on SailfishOS? | 19:23 |
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RoKenn | rubdos: it either is or it probably will be quite soon: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-December/002396.html | 19:37 |
rubdos | RoKenn, nvm; CONFIG += c++11 works in the .pro file :) | 19:37 |
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rubdos | Any clue if I can use valgrind anyhow with the sailfish sdk? | 19:55 |
tbr | ssh into the emulator, run valgrind | 19:57 |
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rubdos | tbr, sounds good :) | 19:59 |
tbr | if not enabled you might need to add mer-tools repo and install stuff from there (haven't checked but would suspect it lives there) | 20:00 |
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Acce | hmm.. how do we close vkbd programmatically? | 21:02 |
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jpnurmi | Acce: does Qt.inputMethod.hide() do the trick? | 21:03 |
Acce | could be, let's try! | 21:04 |
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Acce | jpnurmi: thanks, works nicely :) | 21:09 |
jpnurmi | np :) | 21:10 |
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coderus | Can anybody explain how image highlight work programmaticaly? | 22:05 |
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coderus | i mean internals | 22:13 |
coderus | i want to make my own highlight mechanism | 22:13 |
coderus | i dont want to use theme provider for that | 22:13 |
coderus | but i dont want where to start dig | 22:14 |
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special | coderus: as in, coloring an image like silica does? | 22:15 |
special | look at your colors in the HSV space (QColor handles it) and it all makes sense | 22:16 |
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coderus | special: is it per-pixel conversion> | 22:33 |
special | everything is a per-pixel conversion eventually | 22:33 |
coderus | isnt it too slow? | 22:34 |
special | how large of an image are you looking at? | 22:34 |
coderus | hm, really | 22:34 |
coderus | well, anyway, can't i just look how silica does that? | 22:35 |
special | I don't think that part of silica is opensource | 22:35 |
special | is the silica source posted somewhere? | 22:36 |
coderus | i dont think so :) | 22:36 |
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special | for a small image, it's a simple bit of math on each pixel, it's not too slow | 22:38 |
special | if you have frequently changing images or otherwise think it's a problem, a shader might be a better choice | 22:38 |
special | it's a very trivial task in a fragment shader | 22:38 |
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coderus | okay thanks i'll take a look | 22:49 |
coderus | btw, maybe there some method for adding image to theme cache instantly? | 22:50 |
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coderus | i mean i just installed/copied file to theme folder and want to use it now, but it won't be available until phone reboot | 22:54 |
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